6 Black Guys vs. 1 Imposter (w/ Jarvis Johnson)
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Jordan Adika? More like Jordan Adika
No lie thumbs up just for checking your emails and getting that sponsor
Get the bag
wait thats a fake grey right ?
@@airinmacdonald3979 3/10
I feel like the guys got along too well and didn't realize Rob was just not answering some questions lol
I was the OutKast and not because of skin color
Lmfao had to
Dudes rock haha
The guy bedside him didn’t for some either🤷🏽♀️💀💀
nice pfp
The instant relief knowing that was Rob's actual accent holy shit.
@@madhokte This is just not true. An accent is simply a difference in pronunciations. Groups of people speaking a language separately from other groups also speaking it, will develop an accent from one another. Despite these being the same language. Dialect refers to pronunciations, grammar, vocabulary, and how the language gets regularly used. Like what would count as polite or not. A much deeper version of an accent which is simple pronunciation differences. An accent does not only exist when speaking a language with the rules of another. That's just completely false
@@madhokte you are wrong
@@madhokte I don't think that's exactly true, because Australian people have an accent to like, California folks, and we have an accent to them. Same with bri'ish people.
@@madhoktea dialect is like a subsection of a language. like in some countries if you go a few towns over they're still technically speaking the same language, but it's different enough that it's a different dialect. sometimes they're similar enough that you can piece everything together if you're fluent in one of the dialects, but sometimes they're so different you basically have to learn a whole new way of speaking the language.
@@madhokte why is this white woman talking on black issues, because she doesn’t know what a blaccent is. research it, and aave before you speak.
Omg my heart 😭 when Rosebud said parts of his white family wouldn't even hold him as a baby because his dad is Black. People are so horrible 😭😭
I was thinking he made that story up because he lost idk though
@@Itzmilktv I can't imagine living my life making completely wild and baseless assumptions that ruin the enjoyment of life itself
@@Itzmilktv I’ve known families like that unfortunately. Very believable to me.
@@Itzmilktvrob this is a bad take
Mad common in the recent past and absolutely abhorrent behaviour by those monsters.
They asked “what’s a common misconception about black people?” and old boy literally picked Rob over Brevin because the former was impoverished.
Lmfao
🤦🏻♀️
Right? I'm not black, but it's the idea of any stereotype, especially a negative one, is somehow key to you. I'm a woman, but I tend towards the unemotional side - that doesn't make me less of a woman, nor does it mean being emotional is worse. I also speak like an innocent Christian white girl stereotype a lot of the time, but when I'm comfortable, I swear like a sailor, I'm an atheist, I work (and enjoy) a very corporate job, and I grew up in a pretty redneck style. The way someone sounds, or what they like, is a very poor way to identify someone - and while I understand that's essentially the premise of the show, but of all the stereotypes, it's gotta be such a negative one that convinced most of them.
That's why he ain't say the misconception was being impoverished ig
Right!
I like when odd one out episodes are just people vibing and not fighting, this one definitely feels more like a hang out session than other episodes
**The vegan flashbacks**
@@Justfitz1 yooooooo
The vegan ep was soooo aggressive 😅
@@denjisleftnu- “You eat buckwheat?” That killed me
J a bunch of chill dudes
love how at the end he said don’t put us in a box and then they immediately edited him into a little box
EXACTLY what i was thinking !!! my jaw was open LMAO
They did not think that one through 💀
Timestamp?
@@IsabelleSnape 22:47
@@applepiss1969 ohhh- thank you!
Rob’s just completely relaxed pose the entire time was hilarious to me.
He's just vibing, truly admirable
i think he was asleep the whole time
Gabriel saying "they put us in a box" as the show literally puts him into a box on the end screen is possibly the funniest bit of poor timing they could have done
I noticed that too 💀💀
i KNOW i literally burst out laughing and i had to force myself to stop because i felt so bad 😭
Rob's nickname is really Milk, no wonder he didn't say it when they were doing nicknames at the start lmaooo
so the black girl who won the white Jubilee was adopted by a white family, and the white guy who won the black Jubilee was adopted by a black family.
*Interesting*
it's genius bc it's showing that you don't know a person's race or background from looking at them. He was raised the black way and she was raised the white way, yet she is still black and he is still white. All the "questions" they asked were 100% cultural and therefore based on stereotypes (Koolaid and media consumption) so ofc he would always pass because he was "raised" black, tho it doesn't make him black just like it doesn't make her white. :)
kinda unfair a bit, like, what are they gonna ask? "ever got melanoma?"
@@Pihsrosnec "alright, everybody shout out their melanin levels on 3"
@@nateds7326"1
......2.......3- ZERO!!!"
In a world that was one step saner, they would both simply be considered black
This is reminiscent of the time when my home room had a contest for the ‘whitest person’ and I didn’t win
I am the only white person in my entire grade.
I’m still not sure how I lost.
you had an unfair advantage tbh
This is the funniest comment I ever read
You simply remembered to season your chicken bro
Race IS a social construct. 😂
I grew up in a similar environment. Only, my own Lilly family says I act too white.
king pfp
Jordan and Jarvis are two of my favorite silly little guys
My Favorite Silly Little Guyz, should be their other podcast where they just get wet n wild! Lol
My silly little friends
Yep, love em...
my silly little sad boyz
They are not little.
What I like about this is Rob was able to be completely truthful about his life, even if he was silent a lot of the time. Well cast.
Always love seein' Jarvis and Javelin together.
His name is gorgan
@@phoenix5948 actually i think it’s mr adidas
actually his name is gargoyle
i think thats jorts
Jordan saying "Batman I'm wearing makeup what race am I actually?" in a Joker voice made me laugh way too hard 🤣😭
Hate that Brevin got booted. I feel like calling him “the other” was so fucked. Being an openly queer black man and being pushed aside by a room of black men just hurt my heart.
Wah wah wah
@@Donkey_Budder do you want your cookie for being a good edgy boy?
@@oliveraddison6143 I’m just saying that’s Not why he said that to him I don’t think he cares if he’s queer they just voted him out . stop trying to always be a victim
no one called him the other he just said generally
@@Donkey_Budder that’s bold of you to say considering how you’re actively seeking attention w/ your hate comments
It really sucks when they explain why they’re voting someone out. They’re basically saying “You don’t come across as Black enough, so you’re clearly not one of us.”
I mean I suppose if you're meek then maybe, but it's the _entire_ fucking point, so....
@@CuidightheachODuinn so meek Black men are less Black???
@@theonionqueen3519Don’t be stupid. I STILL haven’t met a single black man or teenager that was meek and shy. They are definitely typically loud and extroverted. Or atleast bold. Dont act dumb.
@theonionqueen3519 bro how else do you want them to find out? "Everyone say the n word on 3"
that is the point of the show
I thought this would be offensive but Rob was just being himself I respect it. They all seemed pretty chill
The “I’m from the streets” “Wall Street” joke killed me
wall skreet
The second Brevin said he was a queer black man I knew it was over for him being queer and black is so alienating form both sides it's crazy
I can relate to the "too black for white people too white for black people" thing. Definitely less of an issue as an adult but I still feel it sometimes. I often thing that with these Jubilee videos, people would think twice before following stereotypes but I'm often proven wrong lol. Black is 100% not a monolith and its sad to have to say that to my own people sometimes.
Every jubilee video I’ve seen is just people re enforcing stereotypes it’s crazy
Then there's the wiggers calling you 'white' for not acting stereotypically black like they do. While being white.
I totally relate. I’m black but grew up going to punk concerts. My family listens to rap, r&b, and jazz so I know a good amount but if I was on here and they asked me about my personal taste in music I would’ve been eliminated immediately lmao.
This is Rob I played the mole
Yeah, I was listening to this thinking 'I'm pretty sure I'd get voted off'
"Not like Rob, that was different." Gabriel took it personal lmaoo
Ngl I’d probably be kicked out quick. I’m full black Caribbean (born in North America) and I’ve been told and felt that I’m not black enough. There is no right way to be black, you just are. You don’t have to act a certain way.
Yup, me too. I'm Jamaican-American, but grew up in South Florida around a lot of other Caribbean and Latin people. I didn't really get introduced to Black American culture until college, I went to a PWI, and many of the Black Americans there instantly clocked that I wasn't "black enough" for them. I would absolutely get eliminated in one of the first few rounds. It didn't help that this school was in the South South.
There's the socially constructed race Black, which encompasses everyone from Ethiopia to Los Angeles, and then there's "Black" as in "Black American" which is a number of ethnicities throughout the USA. If you're Black but not descended from one of the American ethnicities, you're still Black.
I agree my friend you are black because you are ❤ Goodluck
@@Arri7979 omg are you me???????
@@thisisvoided - That's wild! Maybe we're long lost twins 🙌🏾 Or clones 🧐
Rob was really hoping that if he just stays silent they will forget he was there
And he was right!
My strategy completely
i saw this video the other day and my initial thought was "wow i wish jordan and jarvis would make a video on this" so i'm starting to think manifestation is real
yo literally my exact thought as well
I'd seen a reaction to this before, so I seriously thought it was them and was like "why are they re-posting this video?"
Realizing this is all new content is making me spiral lmao, your exact thought process is what tricked me in the first place. I played myself.
you two are the only people that bring me out of my hyperfixations
wait cuz same, i keep on having fixations on flamingo and markiplier and i dont want to get bored of them so i watch jordan and jarvis 😽
dude 17 likes ? loll
I was so invested in Slime Rancher a couple seconds ago and these two instantly brought me out of the zone
it was so wrong for him to call Brevin privileged when 1) there are PLENTY of black people out there who come from wealthier backgrounds like poverty isn’t just the default for us and 2) HES LITERALLY GAY???
Mf they were blind folded ☠️
wealth is still a form of privilege, he wasnt wrong. a wealthy gay man is much more privileged than a poor one.
You can be black and/or gay, and also privileged. I think it's kind of offensive to believe that a black person can never exist within a sphere of privilege. But they also voted dude out based on nothing lol.
Jubilee videos are weird, but the guy at the end says you shouldn't stereotype black people but they all used stereotypes and incorrectly kept the only white guy in the group because of his accent and struggle story. Which is really sad. It feels like a Pygmalion effect. I wish people would stop expecting Rob's to be the "typical" black experience.
I think the problem you're all having here is that being privileged isn't a straightup yes or no thing. That's why intersectionality exists. We acknowledge all axis' on which a person might be opressed and/or privileged. A white straight poor trans woman suffers from different types of opression than say a wealthy gay cis black guy. Etc. Wealth is probably the biggest privilege out of them all, but even the wealthiest trans woman is opressed, and being white might mean you're privileged in that respect but ooooh boy let me tell you, a white guy in a whole lot of debt is still probably faring worse off than a black billionaire. The types of struggles we go through, the societal opression we face, is very idiosyncretic. Stop trying to put people into a particular box (as mentioned in the video). The world isn't that simple. Individual factors of identity might mean you're "more privileged/opressed" but there is no objective threshold for when you "stop being privileged/opressed"
@@scoutbane1651 I do think it's important to note that no one in the comments under the post said he wasn't also oppressed, so, aside from the top post, everyone here is in agreement that intersectionality exists. Wealth is privilege, minority status is underprivileged. Those are three (wealthy, black, gay) things we know about this individual and they all come together to form (part) of a whole person. So when people clarified that you can be both oppressed AND privileged [proportional to the other black men] by being gay and wealthy, they weren't saying there was a hard line, they're saying you can be multiple things at once.
Which I agree with.
Of course, I missed the bit where he actually said he was wealthy. I heard him mention his home life, but I am doing like 5 things at once right now so I probably just missed it.
The guy who’s the mole has a pretty interesting story, was not expecting that.
What’s going on this Rob I played the mole 🧡👀
@@Itzmilktv ayo it's you what's good
@@Itzmilktv I don't have anything to add to the conversation but just wanna say you seem really nice and cool. Loved the shirt!!
No his story is not interesting. So many people, especially black have grown up in similar environments. You only find it interesting because he is white man. You only find the "black sterotypes" he portrays interesting because he is white man. I am sure you do not think any black person is interesting who behaves as he does. You probably associate negative qualities to them.
@@berickslime6718 Yikes. That’s a lot of assumptions about me. Just to clarify, I’ve never heard of a black family adopting a white baby before. That’s what I found interesting. We see white family adopt white babied or babies that are different races all the time. But not black families adopting white babies. I’d just like to hear more about his experiences since it seems pretty uncommon.
Hey Jordan, secure the bag with that ad 💵. But also gray/white hair is hot as hell. For anyone who was wondering. Rock your own look and you're cool
Exactly my thoughts. I'm fine with any, but I'm secretly hoping for white/grey hair like my grandad. But at the same time, everyone deserves to look like how they want. Get that pay day.
@@JhericFury So only good for men then. Cool.
Rob's nickname being Milk made me laugh so fucking hard
That one second of Sad Boyz out of context is the absolute peak of character assassination against Jarvis, my god.
timestamp pls
@@badger6882 literally the start of the episode
@@xGamermonkeyx oh yeah lmao
Feels weird to be proud of Rob for doing so well…
This is Rob I played the secret white guy
@@Itzmilktv broooooOOOOOOO LMAO ITS YOUUUU 🤍🖤💀
@@Itzmilktv Dude, you did great!! Also “Milk” is a fantastic nickname!!! As a milk connoisseur, I appreciate…
@@ItzmilktvHope you're doing well man enjoy the dollars
All of the weird, lame asses online, feeling a since of pride because of the white dude won. Like what exactly makes you proud? That this dude costume black cultural stereotypes? At the end of the day what makes you black is the shared experience and lineage to those who came before us. This feels very much like the Rachel Dolezal situation.
I cannot describe the fear I felt when I read that title, I thought they'd rebooted Black/White
Their reactions to finding out that Rob was white after connecting with him reminded me of when the girl revealed to the poetry club that she was white.
I couldn't finish those tbh
22:49 ok is just me or is it really fucking funny that the moment he says black people are put in boxes it cuts to the outro with his footage in a box lmao
I feel like Jordan is secretly filming us, the audience with his phone like that 👀
he's gettin that reaction content live
🔥 I was the guy in the all red in the video (Fitz)! We most definitely got nerfed by jubilee and I explain in my bts video !
W reaction😭 yal always hella funny!
When Brevin got out that made me so sad, I still feel like I don't fit in with either group and seeing him have that fear validated was so heartbreaking.
19:38 When that guy referred to Brevin as "the others"........ makes me laugh else I'd cry at how on the nose he's being without realizing it. And then preaching at the end about not seeing a group of people as a monolith when he was literally like "I can't relate to you so kick rocks". Not saying he's a bad guy or anything. Just hopefully he's a little more introspective after this.
Also saying that Brevin seems privileged after he said that he is a queer black man, how the fuck is he privileged?
@@katiequeen7225 he meant purely monetarily, obviously?
@@samaraisnt that would be incredibly stupid. Privilege isn't just money
it clearly is and can be@@katiequeen7225
Dude Elizabeth and Rob were the complete opposite protagonists in approach but they still won their videos
Someone bring Bruno onto this show
“why didn’t i win? i perfectly imitated a black man using my experience as a black man that one time !”
"it's a blindfolded experiment, why are you still wearing the makeup"
“Yo yo yo imma ***redacted***” -Bruno in the first 30 seconds
Nah he’d be yelling slurs the moment someone doubts him. Deffo would bring the n word topic like,”you can’t get upset at people when they say a word !” 💀
@Boomerang swings both ways You do know the Rob uses the N-word casually right? There is no need to bring in Bruno when you got Rob to fill that space.
Oh look, black people being judged for not struggling enough I’m shocked😭 like we’re not all the same man wtf. I’m glad Jarvis said something
I love Rob. He played it so well and when it was over he seemed like moderately happy about it.
Very chill dude. The kind of chill dude I’d be intimidated to be around because I’m not chill enough for him.
the tone of video like FLIPPED when they brought up the series they watched in their childhoods went from suspicious to "ermergerd dragonball" 🤣
I was worried how this was gonna go, but Rob’s a real one
It really does feel like for a lot of us mixed ppl the exact way the one dude felt, where you feel too "white" to hang with black folk and too "black" to hang with the white folk. It really fricking sucks man 😩
My mom has had that issue. Her White grandpa he was like "you're too black, you'll never accomplish anything" my mom is only like 1/12 black, my mom is a pasty ass mixed race Puerto Rican. She had a Mexican ex-cowoker say "you're too white, stop lying that you are Latina" and her "friend"/Yoga Teach whose mixed race White/Asian said "Puerto Ricans aren't Hispanic, they are Caribbean" like seriously WTF
Hey friend you are black because you are I know it’s just one voice against the crowd but I really hope it helps
Hang out with natives then. Or asians. Or islanders.
@@blink182izawsm yea ppl just forget other groups exist than those two
"My hex code is all 0's" is so good
this is unrelated but anybody else getting Arthur and Buster vibes with these two?!?!?? like i cant unsee it
This feels like cursed knowledge, put it back in the vault lol
Lmao same
stopppp omggg
who is buster n who is arthur lmaooo. i wanna know your pov here! lol
Jarvis it’s amazing how u and Javelin make it seem like it’s all one channel
Watching the amount of community they have makes me so happy. It's so wholesome. I'm not even paying attention to the little guessing game part. I just wanna hear them talk about what circumstances they have in common. I want a reality show that's all of them talking about their interests.
Nice to see Jordan helping out tiny CZcamsrs
I am so fucking glad that that's Rob's actual accent.
Rob just disasociated through almost the whole game and still won
he couldn't say his nickname it would've gave it away in a heartbeat it was straight up MILK
jordan having his phone in his pocket like that feels like he's attempting to secretly recording me watching his video.
I've always wondered if certain harder questions are off limits until a certain number of people are gone already, cause they always seem to start with the surface level and as soon as the next person leaves dial it up a notch.
yeah like you'd think for $1000 someone would start right off the bat with some really heavy hitters
like say the n word had to be banned
What’s going on this ROB I played the secret white Guy 👀
What’s up rob secret mole
Yooo watching this was so funny. At first I was like oh issa white guy who wants to be black. Then I find out your life and I realized no, his mom probably braided his hair LMAO ✌🏽✌🏽💀
You played it beautifully, plus a really nice backround
yoo! you seem so cool fr loved seeing you vibe with everyone
Duuude, it’s you! This was a great episode. Congrats on your win
last guy being asked abt the misconception of black men andhhe literally said that black men arent a monolith yet his motive to vote brevin out was because he "sounded privileged", meanwhile he literally stated he was a queer black person which is enough reason for him to sound like he did or talk abt the experiences he did like watching disney channel or whatever
Jarvis doing Rob is so funny
it’s so sad to hear how the people that got booted didn’t feel black enough. like hearing their stories of racism just breaks my heart. but also belt for rob in a way bc his story sounded kinda sad. honestly so great that all these guys got on hope they all made friends or at least some of them
“What was your favorite flavor of koolaid?
“Uh, grape.”
“YOU MEAN PURPLE?”
Jarvis's little "woof woof" for the wolfpack intro made my week
I feel like it would be better if they did this on like a Zoom call or something so people would be more aware if someone's not talking. If I were blindfolded in a room with 6 people, it would easy for me not to notice one hasn't spoken at all.
That does exist!!! They had an intense chat it was really interesting, cant remember who did it. There were a lot more people like 8 at least maybe 15. It was cute they felt like friends. I dont remember who did it might not be jubilee.
Jordan reacting so shocked to his own outro sent me 😆"JESUS, oh yea that's right..!"
Always love videos with Jarvis, especially the Jubilee vids.
Javelin has some great videos, too.
ngl i get so soft when dudes start bonding over stuff like disney movies
real
I'm convinced your the best comedic duo in this universe
The funny thing about this episode and everything like it is it's another example of America being the most culturally influential or relevant country in the world.
The continent of Africa exists yet the concept of "blackness", even as it's discussed or understood on a global level, is dictated by what some black Americans are like.
I felt like this was going the way it did as soon as Rob opened his mouth, because the whole premise is rooted in half stereotype, half gut.
And by that metric, Rob didn't sound or seem "white" but there weren't enough black dudes who didn't sound or seem "black" to trip things up.
I fall on the "labeled an oreo my whole life" end of the spectrum because nothing about me is black to anyone except how I look lol
They should have thrown a black person like me in there, tossed in a Brit like Adika because some folks are still lowkey flubbered by Euro accents of any kind coming out of a black (or half black) mouth. Maybe spring for a Carlton Banks.
Not only would it have made everyone's guess harder, it would've made the point that we're not a monolith stronger.
Whereas this just sort of reinforced the idea that most black folks are exactly what you think, so if one tiny thing deviates, they aren't. Even if they are.
P.S. Love your videos even though I don't watch the tube as much in general or comment. Hope you each explode with subscribers, views, opportunities and cake.
I think part of it is the US being culturally influential, but I think the other part is that the US has their head so far up their ass they don't care to know that there is other types of people out there.
"The continent of Africa exists yet the concept of "blackness", even as it's discussed or understood on a global level, is dictated by what some black Americans are like."
I mean I don't think that's as true as you think it is, if it is it's because by people that percieve black people as a monolith. The US has 20 million Asians but the US has no real influence in terms of Asian perception. Europe has a lot of African immigrants, Africa has a lot of Africans, places like Australia originally had black natives, so on, most of the world interacts with black people not defined by US culture.
"Rob is different" bro just had his heart shattered
None of that will stop your hair from going grey. It’s genetic and stress related. But I’m glad your getting that ad money.
You guys are such a dynamic duo
It was kinda frustrating watching Jordan and Jarvis say Rob was giving bad answers lmao, since I knew the whole time he won and was completely not faking anything
Genuinely im on the edge of my seat for these videos, hearing yalls perspective is incredibly interesting and I feel like im constantly getting excited relating to things you both say!!
love the grey hair streaks!!
bro when jarvis said that people used to confuse him with a white woman on the phone my gender dysphoria just evaporated i went like "oh thank god that it happens with cis men as well"
the ad read having "I'm Obama in his 2nd term" and "someone on my side who is coincidentally" really made me think Obama had sponsored this video with a line of hair products
you two are always just too fun together
the most chaotic/horrible thing I can imagine is this exact same video but the white guy they picked was that rapper Tom McDonald
what
They’ve gotta do one of these where everyone is an imposter
I have no idea why but Jordan's phone in his pocket is making me very uncomfortable and I can't stop staring at it. It feels like he is slyly taking a video of us.
I’m am totally a Brevin and I feel his pain, keep your head up buddy!
Love how Jarvis is just vibing with the blokes
i forever love seeing you two collab :)
While I was watching this video, Siri activated for the first time in history and decided to call a man I had not spoken to in 6 years. I will need some time to recover from this, and I will watch the rest of the video at a later date. Thank you
Update: I watched the video and I had a good time! :)
I love the content you guys put out, and I *really* love the content you guys put out together
I'm loving all these collabs.
Your chemistry is 😌🤌
I love how you guys went from mocking his accent coz you thought he was pretending to being like " i think he really grew up in the hood" 😂😂😂
Jarvis’s style is always *chef kiss*
its interesting bc the reality of this is a class distinction more so than one of race based off the the experiences they were all bonding over (like living in south central, struggling with money, maybe a single parent, ect.) and unfortunately in the us the reality is that poc are systematically disenfranchised and many poc are highly concentrated in impoverished areas through no fault of their own (obviously) but the lower class is also not a monolith so you get intersectionality based upon race ethnicity gender etc.
my point is i feel like their bond with rob came from that. ofc hes never gonna understand living life as a black man even if they grew up down the block from eachother but same goes for a black man never being able to fully understand the struggles of a black woman -> intersectionality and what not
idk i find it really interesting
side note tho this was kinda fucked on the producers part i feel like they are contributing to a narrative 💀
This was more wholesome than I expected it to be
Hi Jarvis and Jordan! Thanks for a great video! Much love!
ahem it’s javelin and jarvis 😌 lmfao
“I like grape!“
“You mean PURPLE? 😂😂😂😂
*Jubilee’s next video* 1 white guy has to guess the ages of 6 Black people.
alternate title: 6 men become friends and a white guy listens
Y’all are my fave duo!! I knew this video would be a banger
Thank you for plugging the pod up top (I know y'all we're f'kin around) but seriously, I kept forgetting to follow, but I did this time. Can't wait to binge it!
i feel like eliminating Brevin was a microaggression, queer people of color are often treated as "less ethnic" because of their queerness. As a queer person of color i get that a lot from other people of my race and ethnicity
Lol, okay feel that way I guess. The entire point is "guess this persons blackness" -- the entire thing would be a microaggression if you want to be retarded enough about it.
Yeah, I definitely agree. I feel like a lot of the time, intersectionality isn’t really /seen/, you know? Like, you’re either seen as black OR gay, not both.
Loved the Chernobelle cameo
The actual jubilee video appeared on my feed yesterday but it didn’t feel right watching it without you guys
This was genuinely so fun to watch lmao
Glad the dude was his genuine self, not playing a character