Top Ten Strongest Armies in Warhammer 40K 10th Edition

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  • Let's talk through some of the strongest armies in the game right now, and what's making them good...
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    0:00 Intro
    2:21 Honourable Mentions
    3:23 10th - Genestealer Cults
    5:46 9th - Thousand Sons
    7:56 8th - T'au Empire
    10:46 7th - Chaos Knights
    13:24 6th - World Eaters
    15:41 5th - Orks
    18:07 4th - Leagues of Votann
    20:09 3rd - Black Templars
    22:39 2nd - Chaos Space Marines
    25:21 1st - Aeldari
    29:13 Outro
  • Hry

Komentáře • 224

  • @Dram1984
    @Dram1984 Před 8 měsíci +392

    Guard only loses when they don’t take enough guardsmen. More foot is always the answer regardless of question. The emperors mighty bayonet cannot fail, only be failed.

    • @DJCallidus
      @DJCallidus Před 8 měsíci +14

      Got to take a good balance between Meat & Metal.
      I am a fan of our Tanks in our index. You can get some decent combos with the Russ' abilities.
      Still haven't managed to get a Rogal Dorn tank.

    • @nein4599
      @nein4599 Před 8 měsíci +16

      Wrong comment section... Wait for the 'worst army's in 40k' video... 😂

    • @YouWinAFREEiPOD
      @YouWinAFREEiPOD Před 8 měsíci +1

      🔫👀

    • @Harbley
      @Harbley Před 8 měsíci +5

      Incorrect, I have a 60% win rate in 10th and have only been taking around 50 battleline a game. Play against strong opponents on good terrain. Look at most well performimg tournament lists they bring a similar amount. Scout sentinels and things of that nature are so good.

    • @obsidanix
      @obsidanix Před 8 měsíci +3

      Guard are insanely good if the player understands how to overlap those layered buffs. Like sentinel + take aim hitting on 2+ / 3+ with big guns. Kings of the casual right now.

  • @nedchirgwin2803
    @nedchirgwin2803 Před 8 měsíci +243

    I wouldn't mind seeing a break down of the weaker factions, and what could be done to help them out.

    • @TheStargateNerd
      @TheStargateNerd Před 8 měsíci

      He made a video like that a few weeks ago

    • @mamneo2
      @mamneo2 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheStargateNerdIncroyable.

  • @skorpekh
    @skorpekh Před 8 měsíci +17

    The fact that Chaos Chosen got a points reduction in the last dataslate update is crazy to me. Such a powerful unit.

  • @DeathInTheSnow
    @DeathInTheSnow Před 8 měsíci +52

    I'm curious to see what they do to Chaos Space Marines when their new codex comes out. I wouldn't mind some love for the Legionnaires though. It doesn't feel right using cultists as your main troops.
    And Votann; I'm glad they're doing well, but I feel they've lost their voice a bit since 10th started. I miss their old weapon rules.

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před 8 měsíci +5

      I mean depending on the Chaos Chapter, as some definitely use more cultists in lore i.e. Word Bearers and Alpha Legion are all chapters that use more cultists than the others do

    • @HairEEck
      @HairEEck Před 8 měsíci +3

      Can we really qualify the alpha legions human operatives as cultists?

    • @kaeamillin8379
      @kaeamillin8379 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@HairEEck Many Alpha Legion warbands use actual cults. In 'Sons of the Hydra' the Redacted warband runs their own cult and deploys cultists as distractions

    • @dakkarocka
      @dakkarocka Před 8 měsíci +1

      I hope the votann codex and a few new units really bring back the flavor.

  • @ZK-sz8vs
    @ZK-sz8vs Před 8 měsíci +84

    i feel like GW solved votanns early 10th edition woes in all the wrong ways. it was an army that, in its 10th edition rework, had almost all of its combos and mechanics stripped out, given almost nothing in return, lost accuracy/shots/damage on almost every gun in their roster which all conspired to make them almost unplayably bad for months, then GWs fix was the blunderbuss of just dropping the armies points by 50% and giving them +1 to hit and wound against basically your opponents whole army for free.
    the laziest solution possible that made them both more expensive to collect and also not any more interesting to play. they are still the same boring, combo-less stripped down mess they were at the start of 10th, they just got their army size doubled and a sledgehammer "+1 to win" button.
    lazy and disappointing

    • @Gryps2
      @Gryps2 Před 8 měsíci +9

      They need to find a unique design space for Votann. They made them a tough and slow army in a game with two tough and slow armies already.

    • @drizzak
      @drizzak Před 8 měsíci +3

      Full sagitaur army is not slow 😅

    • @woagwoag
      @woagwoag Před 8 měsíci +2

      i hope we get Beam back as a real keyword come the codex. It was such a fun rule for such a cool play style. The Magna jumping-damage rule is probably way too strong in general to come back alas.

    • @denegra
      @denegra Před 8 měsíci +1

      Less points per model = more models sold for 2k points.

  • @DecayingSpammer
    @DecayingSpammer Před 8 měsíci +14

    The Black Templars Power Has Finnaly Been Realised

  • @worldlinezero4783
    @worldlinezero4783 Před 8 měsíci +33

    My honest reaction when it turns out Aeldari are the best faction: 😐

    • @PhO3NiX96
      @PhO3NiX96 Před 8 měsíci +4

      That was quite a big drop considering it was 67% wr before last nerfs tho
      Also it's the most played so obviously it wins more also right.

    • @lassemelson5668
      @lassemelson5668 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@PhO3NiX96 U could argue that its mostly played cuz its the best faction still aswell

    • @mann0311
      @mann0311 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@lassemelson5668 yeah it's this especially when it was that much better than any other army.

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před 8 měsíci

      As an Aeldari and CSM player, they definitely still need slight points increases, but people don't seem to understand that you need to be an extremely good player to do well with Eldar. As they're insanely easy to table if you make a single mistake

    • @johnhildenbrand2642
      @johnhildenbrand2642 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gsPaper tigers for sure, but that run they had at the beginning was completely fucking broken lol, there were several armies that couldn't beat them full stop...it's at least possible in theory to beat them now as long as you play appropriately

  • @bigguyjamal3533
    @bigguyjamal3533 Před 8 měsíci +9

    Out of all factions, I don't think any of them have been the top most broken army to play as consistently, throughout 1st to 10th edition, as much as those pointy-eared princesses.

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup Před 8 měsíci +21

    Glad to see my World Eaters and Templars on the list (if only the Guard could get up there too)

    • @AncientIrishCelt
      @AncientIrishCelt Před 8 měsíci +1

      As a Guard and soon to be WE player you're my spirit animal

    • @xBeasTBeaR
      @xBeasTBeaR Před 8 měsíci +2

      As a fellow BT/WE player, its been alot of fun in 10th collecting Skulls for the Blood God and the Holy Throne!

  • @ExamplePrime
    @ExamplePrime Před 8 měsíci +3

    Ive always been hyper casual, never paid any attention to how competitive plays out.
    Would love to see a video going through each editions - start of edition and end - and go through the best and worst factions before having one giant video at the end where we look at graphs tracking faction win rates over time

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Meanwhile Blood Angels can't even take half their unique units. Also I don't even care that the Tau are doing good, took my Onager Gauntlet, my melee Flamer, my Eight datasheet, and my Mont'ka, can't have shit in the Tau Empire.

  • @damnationdan5253
    @damnationdan5253 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Obviously the Astra Militarum (infantry only)

  • @Brettoh
    @Brettoh Před 8 měsíci +2

    Nothing more satisfying than seeing Angron & the angry boys decimate a shooty Eldar list turn 1 with some good charges! Haven’t yet found any other reliable counters.

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      If the eldar player is letting themselves get charged turn 1, they don’t know how to properly deploy against world eaters. That match up is pretty one sided.

  • @hossdelgato6098
    @hossdelgato6098 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I respect this level of dedication and honor. A testament to Auspex’s character

  • @spoonsrattling
    @spoonsrattling Před 8 měsíci +10

    glad to see orks doing well, green is best

    • @ace12342
      @ace12342 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah, I’m glad factions like Orks and World Eaters are in the top ten. It shows that melee isn’t really inferior to shooting anymore.

    • @poetry3652
      @poetry3652 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Love my orks but the play style is getting a bit stale now. Looking forward to the codex!

  • @rain6353
    @rain6353 Před 8 měsíci +2

    All these meta chaser Aeldari bois. You'll be out of our city soon enough!! *shakes old fist*

  • @marsindustries
    @marsindustries Před 8 měsíci +19

    Happy to see Votann at 4th. I was able to pick up their Christmas box so I can fill out my space dwarf army a bit more.

    • @cassiecaradoc2070
      @cassiecaradoc2070 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Unfortunately, they're only in 4th because they're effectively a horde army currently with how they're priced, but they're designed to be an elite army even though their current rules just don't live up to that. I'm hoping it doesn't stay this way all the way until they get a codex, but if it does, I would expect their codex to considerably rebalance them back to being an elite army with elite points pricing pricing, and unfortunately that means a lot of people's 2000 point armies are going to suddenly become 3000 point armies.

    • @soldis2909
      @soldis2909 Před 8 měsíci +4

      ​@cassiecaradoc2070 I hope to hell they make votann elite again and bring back my beams and I would be happy with elite prices

  • @SmashingSnow
    @SmashingSnow Před 8 měsíci +19

    Happy to see the Tau in the top 10. I look forward to our Codex next spring and hopefully some new units.

  • @KCUFyoufordoxingme
    @KCUFyoufordoxingme Před 8 měsíci

    I really see new good lore pulling out the good players toward those armies.

  • @bloodhazard67
    @bloodhazard67 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I"m happy to see Chaos Knights doing well this edition.

  • @dillonhansen3839
    @dillonhansen3839 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Im really hoping for some Emperor's children this edition. I also just started GSC a month back and there a lotta fun, love the hit and run techniques and the amazing melee units. But since I'm a chaos guy I'd love some EC refreshes. Some actual rules, new models, and i hope they make Lucius come back to life ability fun.

    • @johnhildenbrand2642
      @johnhildenbrand2642 Před 8 měsíci

      I got GSC in my pile of potential, or at least the start of one anyway, looking forward to them whenever I finish painting up the Nids I have in front of them in queue

    • @dillonhansen3839
      @dillonhansen3839 Před 8 měsíci

      @johnhildenbrand2642 niiiice, I wanted to start nids. But I felt like they lacked that umpf. There lore and purpose is very simple, and I like stuff with some substance lol. Then I heard about GSC and they were everything I loved. Being a chaos player and loving cultist the GSC fit right in lol

    • @johnhildenbrand2642
      @johnhildenbrand2642 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @dillonhansen3839 I got the Leviathan box, I only wanted the nids, but my SM deal fell through so I ended up with both, I also grabbed the Xmas nid box, and once GW stops smoking that bad shit and drops the SM box down to 175ish, where it bloody should be, I will probably track one of those down too, also got WE in line for the paint booth, so I'm up to my neck in it this year 😂🤣

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci +1

      EC all but confirmed by gw for this edition.

    • @johnhildenbrand2642
      @johnhildenbrand2642 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @joshramirez2049 I sure hope so, chaos just feels...incomplete without the 4th faction

  • @rathstar
    @rathstar Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great overview.
    Surprising seeing the drop in Tau win rates. They were looking like top 4 straight after the balance dataslate. Are there any particular armies they are struggling with ?

    • @AlphaReplay
      @AlphaReplay Před 8 měsíci +2

      Rush armies hurt them a lot if they don't get first turn.

    • @danielstrom5397
      @danielstrom5397 Před 8 měsíci

      Also armies with lots of MSU, and things like Genestealers that can DS and outshoot them. They rely heavily on their Crisis blobs, so if they get taken out without having done some substantial damage to the enemy armies then they falter pretty quickly.

  • @MrGrogan02
    @MrGrogan02 Před 8 měsíci

    Uthar is a good character for Votann. With the clarification on Grim Demeanor and similiar abilities, his damage reduction is now viable in all situations and he provides more to a hearthguard squad than an e-champ.

  • @cthulhluftagn3812
    @cthulhluftagn3812 Před 8 měsíci

    Vottan need to be a heavy Risk/Reward faction, puttig your troops in danger to gain tokens to deal out some exttreme damage.
    The risk is balancing loosing troops to dealing damage, they shouldnt have a 'expendeble' troop to ensure we always keep that in mind

  • @denegra
    @denegra Před 8 měsíci +3

    Can GW please do something about Aeldari? I wouldn't mind seeing them drop to 48% win percentage (or less).

    • @carloago8305
      @carloago8305 Před 8 měsíci

      I agree, totally agree

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      Being butt hurt isn’t a good way to balance. You wouldn’t want your factions to get nerfed into the dirt if they were only slightly too good. Night spinners need a nerf but that’s about it. They carry at high level competition. A really stupid unit between the damage and debuff. With that changed though the faction would be fine. Maybe a slight point increase to wraith guard too. But that’s it.

    • @carloago8305
      @carloago8305 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’m a knights player (loyalist ones).
      Even in my case there was no need to nerf my army to the dirt. yet it happened and it seems that the community appreciated it. and the win rate wasn't even as high as the eldar's!

    • @denegra
      @denegra Před 8 měsíci

      @@carloago8305 that's exactly my point. Every other army that was performing well above 50% WR got nerfed. Yet Aldari just keep getting the pass. I get that they want to slowly nerf them, but geez it's been since the release of 10th that they've been this good. Knights were in a decent spot and were hovering right around a 50% WR and they got giga-nerfed.

    • @denegra
      @denegra Před 8 měsíci

      @@joshramirez2049 it really isn't about my factions. I have multiple factions to choose from when I play (Necron, SM, Nids, Votann, DG, Knights, Tau, and Chaos SM). Some of which are doing really well. It's extremely frustrating to see other factions get the nerf bat and they haven't been oppressive as Aldari have been. If you attend any major event a vast majority of players are just spamming them at this point because of how imbalanced they are.

  • @angel-in-metatrone
    @angel-in-metatrone Před 8 měsíci +1

    My Drukharis are waiting for some love from GW ... Crossfinger the next dataslate

  • @MrEyescream
    @MrEyescream Před 8 měsíci

    Im thinking about start collecting the Tabletop minis. I decided to start with necrons, but it seems im late to the (undead) party

  • @Xolcor
    @Xolcor Před 8 měsíci +3

    Me crying with my Dark Lance Drukhari at the bottom

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu Před 8 měsíci +1

      Me crying even farther down with my non-lance Drukhari

  • @Smokescreen568
    @Smokescreen568 Před 8 měsíci +5

    LETS GO TEMPLARS!!!!

  • @LoveJuice1333
    @LoveJuice1333 Před 8 měsíci

    Hello mate,
    Did you forget Custodes on the first part of the video ? « Honourable mention »
    Or is it on purpose because we are so low in win percentage ^^

  • @littleconan7929
    @littleconan7929 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Eldar are solid mainly because of Yncarne TP rule. Other big models can be glued if necessary, but the Yncarne cannot. Killing eldar units means helping the Yncarne often.
    the ability shall be restricted. I don't know, maybe triggerable only when a unit of 10 Wounds is killed, meaning killing little five model scoring units cannot trigger it.

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      Nah the rule just needs to be reverted to 9th edition version and then drop the points on her. And nerf night spinners ( they are what really carries the faction in competitive) .

  • @blakejackson9756
    @blakejackson9756 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I am always looking for the "Most Played Army list" but can't find one.
    I trust Auspex's data, mind sharing a site where you get the figures for the video?

    • @mamneo2
      @mamneo2 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Incroyable.

    • @timunderbakke8756
      @timunderbakke8756 Před 8 měsíci

      Most played hands down is space marines. It is where most new players start and where many players never leave.

    • @vukvidanovic8276
      @vukvidanovic8276 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​@@timunderbakke8756They are so diverse and cool, it makes sense. Also, if you want to go evil, marines have your back for that too.

  • @UNIVERSAL_BUBLIK
    @UNIVERSAL_BUBLIK Před 8 měsíci +3

    Necrons: Yes, yes, of course, f**k me 🥲

  • @didelu7989
    @didelu7989 Před 7 měsíci

    I am new to 40k and picked Aeldari bc they look cool, started collecting and playing in spring. I mostly play against my friend who plays T'Au and the Winrate is fairly 50/50. However I understand that they need a nerf, I just hope they aren't going to make erverything more expensive bc then I would have to make a new 1000pt list already 😥

  • @marrvynswillames4975
    @marrvynswillames4975 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It is funny to me how the eldar seem to be consistently an op faction on tabletop, but spent like 20 years with most of their army using old ass models

  • @seizedmeansofproduction4739
    @seizedmeansofproduction4739 Před 8 měsíci

    Where do the stats for most played armies come from?

  • @boomcat1337
    @boomcat1337 Před 8 měsíci +1

    i really hope Orks gets some walker detachments or somthing for all there armor / flyers / cars... im really not into all that beast range for my orks.

    • @honey_badger1450
      @honey_badger1450 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’m not an orks player, but the nids dex gave thematic detachments with swarm, big bug, psychic, sneaky bug, etc. if that’s any indication, I’m optimistic for you. Think you’ll see mechanized, boyz horde, dakka, etc.

    • @boomcat1337
      @boomcat1337 Před 8 měsíci

      @@honey_badger1450 x´ing fingers :)

  • @moonman2423
    @moonman2423 Před 8 měsíci

    I am absolutely cheered to see my faith in the leagues be rewarded.

  • @jacobwilcox7798
    @jacobwilcox7798 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Oh sweet, best army lists!
    >Necrons aren't mentioned anywhere even in honorable mentions<
    Sad:( I don't think they're bad right now at all, but Crons have the same issue as last edition that their balance both internal and external is balanced on a razors edge, and slight shifts either way tend to shift them rather significantly. Before it seemed like we were one of the up and coming boogeymen from the dataslate but the moderate point changes were enough to hold us down enough to, for example, not show up here. Necrons will still place and even win once in a while but don't seem consistent or active enough in game to really solidify their place. Highly durable for "some, not all" datasheets, struggle to kill things, and slow speed means their only real strategy is "get to objective, sit there long enough to matter" and with the adjusting of lists in response to that Necrons again suffer from the equation of "can you wipe my unit in a turn? Yes? I lose." I argue that its actually fine, and makes for interesting countering between armies, but the trade rate is off vs other armies where having all the bells and whistles for a lychguard or warrior block runs you in the 400-700 point area when you're buying characters, upgrades, reanimators, thralls, arks etc.
    Im having a ton of fun playing my Necrons this edition so far, but there are definitely a few things I would like to see shift even if it only affects internal balance. More reliable/durable destroyers (Make the melee ones actually killy), guns that we're wet noodles on everything that isn't heavy support, and some kind of durability buff for my Monolith (Please hes the best model!). With the upcoming codex my hopes are high but reasonable! Im really excited for the detachments, so far those seem interesting! Either which way Im having a wonderful time, and look forward to changes as they come, glory to the Eternal Legions!

  • @sarnxero2628
    @sarnxero2628 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Adeptus Custodes: 😐

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 Před 8 měsíci +3

      I just wanna use my dreadnoughts man.

    • @sgthunt118
      @sgthunt118 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Invictor warsuit is probably 'better' than any custodes dreadnought in any situation... makes zero sense

    • @sarnxero2628
      @sarnxero2628 Před 8 měsíci

      @@tylerchadwell1267 same man... same

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 Před 8 měsíci

      @@sgthunt118it is, isn't it? There's also the allied knights thing with the armigers just being cheaper and better

  • @zap54312
    @zap54312 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As someone who's planning to start collecting orks I'm glad to see how well they're doing
    It means when GW hits them with the nerfhammer I'll need to buy less to get up to 1000

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před 8 měsíci +1

      Sadly Orks won't go up by much at all tbh, they're a Horde army and always will be. You might just have to buy 1 less unit than you thought at most

    • @TheSniperGTO
      @TheSniperGTO Před 8 měsíci

      10 Genestealer Cults
      9 Thousand Sons
      8 Tau Empire
      7 Chaos Knights
      6 World Eaters
      5 Orks
      4 Votann
      3 Black Templars
      2 Chaos Space Marine
      1 Eldar

  • @MyChannel-tl8ms
    @MyChannel-tl8ms Před 8 měsíci

    In the black Templars one, you spelt thing wrong. 20:53

  • @ZiGGi03
    @ZiGGi03 Před 8 měsíci

    What’s the estimated timeframe for the Dark angels range refresh ? Anyone know ?

  • @reimalaluan5286
    @reimalaluan5286 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really don't care about the competetive scene and standings per faction, but seeing my factions not performing well makes me a bit sad.

  • @Panzerfaust45
    @Panzerfaust45 Před 8 měsíci +1

    so the necrons are not reanimating anymore?

  • @jakebissell7930
    @jakebissell7930 Před 8 měsíci +4

    WEZ STILL IZ DA BESTES LADZ!!!!!

  • @sludgedisciple
    @sludgedisciple Před 8 měsíci

    No mention of Imperial Knights at all? Did I miss it?

    • @kylek1119
      @kylek1119 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Imperial knights got absolutely RAILED with the nerf bat. Changes to Devastating Wounds, Towering, Overwatch, and combine that with the Strategem and Bondsman ability nerfs. Their win rate plummeted to under 50% and never recovered.

  • @theo8513
    @theo8513 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I feel like Necrons aren't too bad right now, I feel where just in a doomer viewpoint against them since the Overlord nerf.

  • @alexsynndri6339
    @alexsynndri6339 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Votann "a little short ranged"
    SHORT?!

  • @CuriousLumenwood
    @CuriousLumenwood Před 8 měsíci +5

    Kinda wild to me that none of the SM codex detachments are anywhere in the video. And I guess shoutout to all of the people who thought that the codex coming out would mean that SM would be in the top percentage of armies.

    • @JoeNokers
      @JoeNokers Před 8 měsíci

      pretty sure the Iron storm detachment is at 52% at the moment, however its being run mostly by divergent chapters like templar as they are just space marines +

    • @mortenbrandtjensen6470
      @mortenbrandtjensen6470 Před 8 měsíci

      Black Templars does it better

    • @drunkenastarte5243
      @drunkenastarte5243 Před 8 měsíci

      First 3-5 codices out of the gate ALWAYS end up lower middle tier at best.
      Those initial books are all typically written either alongside the new edition's rules and/or finished up within weeks of the edition launch... they just don't get the player feedback & game stats until after those books are likely shipped off to the printers.
      Wait until the back end of this initial wave of codices that'll finally drop come April & May next year, then we'll get a better idea of what the codex might end up looking like
      Of course, GW could always then turn around & shift their design ethos mid edition, as they've done in the past and turn everything into an absolute dumpster fire like they did in 3rd, 4th & 7th editions for example.

  • @ThereIsOnlyWar40k
    @ThereIsOnlyWar40k Před 8 měsíci +2

    😢 the moment I realise that Necrons arent in the top ten.

  • @garbol8751
    @garbol8751 Před 8 měsíci

    Out of all SM chapters there is only one in top 10 and it's a successor chapter XD

  • @fluffcrunchmini4572
    @fluffcrunchmini4572 Před 8 měsíci +13

    This really feels like the most balanced I've ever seen 40k.. They've done a great job - particularly in avoiding codex power over indices. Good job GW.

    • @ethanpitts1184
      @ethanpitts1184 Před 8 měsíci

      Balanced? Yeah I guess. Not as good as back end of 9th still in my opinion, but 10th also feels just really boring for some armies. Votann, despite being good are just so boring to play.

    • @carloago8305
      @carloago8305 Před 8 měsíci

      Well done GW..
      The same GW that destroyed Imperial knights and Custodes xD
      If your armies get destroyed like them you’d probably see the whole thing on a different prospective.

    • @fluffcrunchmini4572
      @fluffcrunchmini4572 Před 8 měsíci

      @@carloago8305 I totally agree about Custodes! Imperial knights are still a decent stat check army i think. But yeah. Agree they went a bit hard there and not hard enough with the eldar.. But one of my armies are Drukhari so I do feel your pain! Even then the difference between best and worst is not terrible compared to previous years I think. So deffo think they're on the right track.. Especially if they keep the new codexes in the same power range..

    • @weissraben4476
      @weissraben4476 Před 8 měsíci

      Meh. Nephilim was a lot better than this. The immediate post-dataslate meta looked very balanced, and I praised it a fair bit; but as time passed, and people crunched numbers and optimized lists, it became pretty apparent that some factions are able to be optimized a damn lot more than others, and the meta suffers for it.

  • @sundownwargames
    @sundownwargames Před 8 měsíci +1

    I really think Aeldar would be fine if their stuff did even slightly less damage.

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      It’s really just night spinners. Absolutely dumb unit in the hands of an experienced competitive player. Nerf that and the faction is still good but nothing crazy.

  • @alias-yv2ro
    @alias-yv2ro Před 8 měsíci +3

    Man, fingers crossed the world eaters don’t get hit too hard by the next data slate, melee this editions really isn’t that great, and I feel like strong datasheets are needed to sorta make up for that.
    Overall I think the meta’s actually pretty decent! CSM and eldar win rates are ahead, but at least it’s not by a disgusting amount, and besides, the best part about eldar having the highest win rate means that even the most diehard of meta slaves will think twice about starting an army that’s old enough to drink🤣

    • @ummthatguy
      @ummthatguy Před 8 měsíci

      -stares at my golden boys- man they just don't want melee to be strong

    • @chaosclg
      @chaosclg Před 8 měsíci +1

      My csm army relies on melee and ive won 17 games in a row...

    • @liveac3694
      @liveac3694 Před 8 měsíci

      People keep saying melee isn't good and yet melee armies seem to be doing quite well?

    • @alias-yv2ro
      @alias-yv2ro Před 8 měsíci

      @@liveac3694 hrm, I think it’s more melee this edition is really janky, esp with changes to pile in/consolidate and stuff. I think melee CSM are strong because of their army rule, but the strength in world eaters and orks isn’t that they blend through units, but more of their high mobility, especially in transports

  • @zacharymendoza4945
    @zacharymendoza4945 Před 8 měsíci +20

    As a Custodes player, being excluded from even an honerable mention is depressing. We used to be tough, reseliant, and flexible. Now we just suck because GW is to lazy to make any changes with thought.

    • @Alaric11
      @Alaric11 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Custodes are the most boring, uninspired army. I roll my eyes when I have to play against them.

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 Před 8 měsíci +8

      lazy? GWs problem is the 40K fans willingness to buy whatever for whatever price

    • @aguy2487
      @aguy2487 Před 8 měsíci +10

      ​@@Alaric11stay mad heretic

    • @sundownwargames
      @sundownwargames Před 8 měsíci +4

      ​@@Alaric11Custodes master race living in your head rent free bub

    • @davidewing4046
      @davidewing4046 Před 8 měsíci +1

      My 3d printed army of mostly dreads and bikes has been sadly sitting on the shelf a lot of this edition

  • @kgp277
    @kgp277 Před 8 měsíci

    Votann are on the “short” range side? You don’t say. 😏

  • @fpsVAMPZ
    @fpsVAMPZ Před 8 měsíci

    Damn. No raven guard

  • @jacobodajbura8829
    @jacobodajbura8829 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Necrons ??😮

  • @christopherfreitas6510
    @christopherfreitas6510 Před 8 měsíci +2

    first to comment! Yay! Thanks for all the work you put in for us auspex. You're the reason I'm so into 40k now!

  • @silveracid1344
    @silveracid1344 Před 8 měsíci

    Complete noob here.. How are Dark Angels doing these days ?

  • @shlomogoldstein3373
    @shlomogoldstein3373 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If there is one thing I've learned from being into 40k for the past 28 years its play eldar if you always want to be strong or at least strong enough to win

  • @rockmanvollnutt8037
    @rockmanvollnutt8037 Před 8 měsíci

    For me chaos space marines are the strongest. World Championship top was full of them, not Many aeldari tbh.

  • @a.d2868
    @a.d2868 Před 8 měsíci

    Is it me or missing necrons ?

  • @mattmanchip9419
    @mattmanchip9419 Před 8 měsíci

    How do people deal with crisis suits? Im repainting my necrons and need those suits dead!

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 Před 8 měsíci

      In my experience, you probably need to accept that the crisis bomb will kill a unit. I'd recommend having something set up to blast them away, or just focus them down if they aren't in deepstrike.

  • @OverlordZephyros
    @OverlordZephyros Před 8 měsíci +1

    IMPERIAL GUARD doesnt even get a mention 🤬

  • @void4837
    @void4837 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Custodes were nerfed into the ground while stronger factions were left alone and/or made stronger. Weak factions were left completely untouched, Not balanced at all.

  • @AIPretendingToBeHuman
    @AIPretendingToBeHuman Před měsícem

    Seven months ago, Grey Knights were not even in the Top 18

  • @AdeptFPV
    @AdeptFPV Před 8 měsíci

    So nids have new codex etc and still at 47%! There well going to drop more then once other factions get there codex

    • @AzkuulaKtaktu
      @AzkuulaKtaktu Před 8 měsíci

      If you haven't caught on yet, codexes don't seem to be adding power this edition - merely options

    • @emceedoctorb3022
      @emceedoctorb3022 Před 8 měsíci

      Same as the Space Marines.

  • @Narago.
    @Narago. Před 8 měsíci

    Short?!

  • @borgCube100
    @borgCube100 Před 8 měsíci

    I am a space elf fangirl. I will never not love the Eldar. But. I think they could do with a nerf to not be like 8% higher than the nearest faction. It IS a game.
    There will never not be a... stronger vs weaker appeal, but I don't think it should be so extreme. Should Grey Knights have a bit of an advantage to Daemons? Yes. Should the average Eldar unit destroy and Imperial Guard unit? Yes - but there should be balancing around that.
    Now - if the lore truly represented their strength and stopped using Eldar bodies as cum-rags for their next un-named captain, then I would fight anyone who ever dared disagree.

  • @KneeCapHill
    @KneeCapHill Před 8 měsíci +1

    Suprise suprise, no blood angels. Despite them canonically being the army that's policing half the imperium

  • @chainsawboy2388
    @chainsawboy2388 Před 8 měsíci

    Me who has none of the armies I really like/ have on this video 😢

  • @343killedhalo4
    @343killedhalo4 Před 8 měsíci

    wait where are necrons?

  • @Dilapidated_Dan
    @Dilapidated_Dan Před 8 měsíci

    Yea, the Tau are in a pretty alright spot 🥲 The meta at my lgs is melee rush armies. Also good luck against any titans or tanky melee units. 🫡

  • @Tulkash01
    @Tulkash01 Před 8 měsíci

    LoV are good right now but claiming they managed to win “5 big tournaments” is a bit far fetched. None of those tournaments was big. The reason many top players don’t take LoV to events is they are predictable and they seem to be unable to go 5-0 with ease.

  • @Optionvideo209
    @Optionvideo209 Před 8 měsíci

    No wonder gw charges as much as they do, arbitrarily raising the price basically yearly at this point.... auspex has 260 thousand subs!

  • @pst5345
    @pst5345 Před 8 měsíci

    Genestealers are tare dince they are the most expensive.
    Money isprobsbly the biggest obstacle.

    • @dxpsumma383
      @dxpsumma383 Před 8 měsíci

      No, spelling is the biggest obstacle. I almost got a stroke trying to read this.

  • @TheScotty1122
    @TheScotty1122 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Dark Obscuration is the most BS stratagem EVER

    • @WontonDestruction
      @WontonDestruction Před 8 měsíci +1

      😂

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      It really is though, when you have a chaos lord to do it twice per turn it’s so lame. Invalidates lots of armies.

  • @drdecidueye9461
    @drdecidueye9461 Před 8 měsíci

    hmmm, this is not looking good for the skelly squad

  • @ryan6465
    @ryan6465 Před 7 měsíci

    Eldar have always been cheese

  • @NeonSwaglordChen
    @NeonSwaglordChen Před 8 měsíci +1

    This list is wrong. AdMech are the strongest army in 40k because they're the coolest. Stay winning mars bros, aesthetic > meta 😎😎😎

  • @KILLERAOC
    @KILLERAOC Před 8 měsíci

    Eldar supremacy!

  • @davidcox6454
    @davidcox6454 Před 8 měsíci

    Points are so out of whack that I wouldn’t say the game is in a good spot regardless of win rates

  • @Cheeseybeaver45
    @Cheeseybeaver45 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jesus the top two have the most wins seems unbalanced but idk I don’t do tournaments.

  • @elimcewen1607
    @elimcewen1607 Před 8 měsíci

    .

  • @dexstarmitchell
    @dexstarmitchell Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's literally 3am on a Sunday does anyone know how to fit 8 hours sleep into 3 hours

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 Před 8 měsíci +1

      For every five 5-hour energies you drink, you unlock 1 extra hour. Or you make your heart explode.

    • @worldlinezero4783
      @worldlinezero4783 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Sheer power.

  • @Darkja
    @Darkja Před 8 měsíci +3

    Please, none of the big knights in chaos are usable, dont kid yourself. Rampager, Desecrator and Despoiler are, at the very best, sub-par, and stuff like Abominant and Tyrant are trash tier. None of the big knights is worth its points in game compared to dogs and you only harm your win ratio by running them. Love the models, but the points are way too high. They went up 60-70 points because towering, and after the rule was changed those points remained, and now they cant even overwatch (most important for Tyrant and Despoiler) and no points drop either for that.
    Also, the rules in CK are bad, battleshock tests are random (and even with the -1 they are in your opponents favor) and the rest come online way too late and you are most likely dead by then... and they are still random, so you cant even rely on them if you make it by then.
    Its not a good time for CK players that want to run big knights instead of relying on Dog spam.

  • @michaelh370
    @michaelh370 Před 8 měsíci +2

    eLdAr always winning

  • @joelalferes6992
    @joelalferes6992 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Where is astra militarum?

    • @weissraben4476
      @weissraben4476 Před 8 měsíci

      Guard is licking the 45% WR threshold, mostly. Some weeks from above, some weeks from below.

    • @DJCallidus
      @DJCallidus Před 8 měsíci

      We're target practice again.
      For the Emperor. 💀

  • @PhthaloGreenskin
    @PhthaloGreenskin Před 8 měsíci +3

    I'd rather have craftworld eldar be hot garbage for 5 editions str8 in order to have a 1/16 of the lore the imperium and space marines get. Imperium players have the privilege of being able to pick up a book and read about a space marine being a baddass. We DO NOT have that in the slightest. Our main writer gav thorpe takes every opportunity to depict the eldar as utterly incompetent Neolithic bafoons who have to beg space marines not to destroy their craftworld (this actually happened). Imagine picking up the 3rd book of a trilogy and a space marine chapter master grovels before a necron lord and begs him not to destroy his fortress monetary and to spare the Geneseed stores. You'd be pretty pissed right? Now imagine every single space marine book is like that. That's what it's like to be an Eldar fan.

    • @JimH.
      @JimH. Před 8 měsíci

      Aww..

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      While I wouldn’t take that trade, I agree that’s it’s very nuts 😂 it’s so weird bc sometimes it seems like he knows what he’s doing but then other times the writing is just ATROCIOUS.

  • @billmacia4092
    @billmacia4092 Před 8 měsíci +1

    When is the nerf for aeldari?

  • @ornado4773
    @ornado4773 Před 8 měsíci

    Yeah custodes/grey knights are dead this edition. I just play Horus Heresy now, much more balanced and fun also 3k point games are far faster and easier then a 2k 40k game. Gonna coax out on Horus Heresy until Custodes/Grey Knights become playable...I don't even want them to be as strong as they were before. I'd accept a solid 48/49% win rate compared to this like 39/40%.

  • @coolbritannia1979
    @coolbritannia1979 Před 8 měsíci

    Hello fellow insomniacs

  • @clausfamiliy4859
    @clausfamiliy4859 Před 8 měsíci

    Aeldari are the worst. Have they ever been bottom tier???

    • @JimH.
      @JimH. Před 8 měsíci +3

      Eldar have never not been OP and I've been around long enough to remember the horrors of 3rd.

    • @emceedoctorb3022
      @emceedoctorb3022 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@JimH.Oh god I still have nightmares about the Starcannon of Doom army!

    • @nodachibull8342
      @nodachibull8342 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, multiple times. I assume you're a very new player if you don't remember the start of 9th edition.

    • @clausfamiliy4859
      @clausfamiliy4859 Před 8 měsíci

      @@nodachibull8342 I remember at the start of 9th getting my rear end handed to me repeatedly due to BS psychic powers and harlequin stuff.

    • @nodachibull8342
      @nodachibull8342 Před 8 měsíci

      @@clausfamiliy4859 Then you are a bad player, but your inexperience does not change reality.

  • @AnonYmous-ys2if
    @AnonYmous-ys2if Před 8 měsíci +7

    OH MAN HUGE SURPRISE AELDARI ARE FIRST. Gee it's almost like every single rule and datasheet in the entire army is absolute, unadulterated OP bullshit. God I hope they have like 4 editions in the dumpster after this.

    • @Spec0psGrunt
      @Spec0psGrunt Před 8 měsíci +10

      man baby reaction

    • @alias-yv2ro
      @alias-yv2ro Před 8 měsíci +10

      Oh no, my plastic toy men aren’t as strong as my opponent’s plastic toy men🙄

    • @tylerchadwell1267
      @tylerchadwell1267 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Tbf, Eldar have the terrible combination of being very, very strong, and kinda sorta unfun to play against. This response is a lil childish, but I can understand being upset when the game is just not fun to play.

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah this take is really just wrong and silly 😂

  • @Donutcum
    @Donutcum Před 8 měsíci

    didn't watch but wrong. World eaters best

  • @ricardoortega5691
    @ricardoortega5691 Před 8 měsíci

    who plays aeldari?

    • @joshramirez2049
      @joshramirez2049 Před 8 měsíci

      Who are you asking? People in comments or just as a generic who plays them lol