Doctor Who 14x6: "Rogue" | Reaction!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- History will remember them as good friends on Season 14 Episode 6 of Doctor Who - Rogue!
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02:07 - Reaction
17:41 - Discussion
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Susan Twist was the painting (Ruby noticed again) & The TARDIS groaned again (not indigestion to bounty hunters)..RTD has just posted on Instagram all of the moments the TARDIS has groaned & it goes all the way back to Wild Blue Yonder..All will soon be revealed!!
No Susan Twist? Watch again...
The Shalka Doctor was in the floating heads (so now you will have to rewatch it with your dad)
RTD trying to make me watch Shalka again!
@@7thHourFilms Remember Richard E Grant also played The Great Intelligence, who placed himself inside the Doctor's timeline multiple times....so if you don't want to legitimise Shalka pretend it's a remnant of him.
@@7thHourFilms Also allegedly this isn't an archive photo of Richard E. Grant - apparently the photo used in the episode was taken specifically for Rogue.
@Tyrconnell RTD commented under Paul Cornell's post about the Shalka Doctor and said, "CANON!"
I think the Doctor is different now, his openness facilitated the quickness of this, and I found this romance (this wasn't a full relationship) far more convincing to me than say Astrid or Lady Christina both of whom he also kisses
17:55 Susan twist appeared as a painting of some old woman, ruby noticed it
I agreed
Susan Twist has been framed!
It is basically an episode of Bridgerton... Romances happen quickly~
It's the Shalka Doctor 😂
Your analysis of the Doctor/Rogue’s relationship is pretty much how I feel, like in regards to 10 and The girl in the fireplace whilst it was an early episode for him to show a fast attachment it also made sense based on the context of the story but also the first time I watched it I would’ve been too young to care so now whenever I rewatch it I’ve already got a full sense of what the 10th doctors like so it’s easier to accept
Richard E Grant was in the name of the doctor as the great Intelligence.
susan twist was the old lady painting
I love Rogue ❤❤❤
you saw Richard E Grant he did play the Doctor - there was Susan Twist she was in the painting
When? And where was the Valeyard?
Will we find out that noa distant direct descendants from Cornelius in future sequels because he lookalike Caesar and they both have same eyes and birthmark?
wow the doctor got over river song real quick
I was half expecting to start ranting over them including Tennant's face twice in the hologram sequence since we all know how you feel on that front :)
I mean, yeah I don't like it but we're here now. Not much can be done about it!
Yeah, after River, it's hard to see The Doctor in romance with anyone else.
Good episode either way.
I also think that whilst I didn’t dislike Rogue it was hard for me to care too much because he is so clearly a btec replacement of Jack it’s not even funny like they basically did a similar scene to when Rose is on his ship with the psychic paper and it not working on him
I've cut and pasted this on a coupel of other reactors, so apologies to those who have seen it before, but this is the last time!
I've had the feeling for a while that RTD is essentially repeating his first season with Christopher Ecclestone, though with Slitheen 2 parter skipped and one change in order.
1. Domestic drama focusing on companion (Rose/Ruby Road)
2. Camp space adventure (End of the World/Space Babies)
3. Historical with dimension-hopping villain and famous side character (Unquiet Dead/Devil's Chord)
4. Trapped in one location, companion fake-out death (Dalek/Boom)
5. Doctor/Companion action leads to mess-up of time (Father's Day/73 Yards)
6. Comment on modern media/communication (The Long Game/Dot and Bubble)
7. Historical with 'rogue'ish character (Empty Child-Doctor Dances/Rogue)
And we're heading to a two part finale portentially wrapping up hints about Bad Wolf....I mean Ruby....Susan Twist....Mrs Flood.....whatever...
Oh, and the Doctor only falls in love with people whose name begins with 'R'.
Rose, Reinette, River, Rogue...
Hhhhmmm......Russell.....
I know we're gonna rewatch Series 1 soon but can I just say now it's better than this season? Not that this season is bad. Far from it. But something about Series 1 works better. Might be the higher episode count to breath and have The Doctor more often (though I understand Gatwa was busy).
@@7thHourFilms Series 1 is one of the best of all of the new series, I think it's a high bar, I do think people are also discounting how much not having Gatwa available for two episodes has impacted perceptions.
Can we all agree to call it Season 27 since their never consistent with their season numbers.
Better idea: Call it Season A and this season Alpha. That'll screw with people!
Do you think it was intentional to release Rogue during Pride Month or was it just coincidence?
Considering RTD, I'd say it was intentional AND and coincidence.
Probably coincidence. I think I read somewhere that the series should have started earlier in the year, but due to various logistical issues it wasn't launched until May.
@@ftumschkAh, thank you!
You’re not the only one who felt the Rogue romance was a tad off. Lovely bloke and all, sparkling dialogue, it was just a bit quick and full-on. The Doctor is normally more… well… more like an old dude with a past and regrets; careful, questioning, slow. Here he was more like a horny teen chasing a bit of booty behind the bike sheds. It was odd.
Hey, regarding the latest episode, i won't go into detail, but you might want to stay off the internet for a while. I won't say why for spoiler reasons, but i thought you should know. If you do go on the internet, then be careful where you go.
Got it! Stay away from Twitter. Oh no! Anyway...
@@7thHourFilms Good. Also, there's always a twist at the end. I refuse to elaborate further. I'd rather not spoil the show.
Susan Twist was technically in the episode she was the old woman in the painting.
Yes that was Richard E. Grant as the Shalka Doctor RTD confirmed this on the after show "Doctor Who: Unleashed" so apparently he's now been made canon.
It was a good episode but i didn't like the romance between the Doctor and Rogue because he was always considered an a-sexual alien Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee have stated this in past interviews yes he's had a family in the past but no one thought too deep about and it was taken place off-screen i also think they sexualise and humanise the Doctor far, far too much and i like do like Ncuti he's got potential but he really needs to stop crying every episode it's starting to get abit overboard.
You say your glad the monsters have a normal voice that was one of my issues with them i thought they sounded too normal and not alien enough and i thought the make-up was abit cheap and lazy.
Richard E Grant? It all makes sense now. "The curse of fatal death" is canon!
You're not the only one who thinks the relationship between rouge and the doctor was too fast. Another drawback of a 8 episode season.
To me this episode felt just… “eh”. The villains are okay, expect for make up which is very good. But the romance part… Why would anyone try to write a love story for the Doctor in one episode is a mystery to me. If Rouge was like Jack Harkness (which he almost basically is already) and stayed for a few episodes, I could see it. But introducing a character in one episode, make them a love interest and then killing them feels just… way too rushed.
Killing? He's not dead, they're pretty clearly setting him up to recur
And even if he was a one episode love interest who dies at the end - Girl In The Fireplace says hello
@@VerityShush True. Though I last watched that episode when I was a kid so maybe I wouldn’t like it if I watched it today
I'm not overly fond of it myself, I've just been on high alert with bad faith sods pretending the Doctor's NEVER had a romantic arc before because they don't wanna admit the real reason they're annoyed by Rogue, so I've sorta been checking all bases that the criticisms I do see are genuine, ya know?
@@VerityShush yeah… I think since I started writing myself, I have become very harsh to films and series. I prefer slow paced scripts compared to most series nowadays. It feels like people became impatient to see the pay off. Whereas I would much prefer to stretch the build up towards that pay off for several chapters.
@@maximisationisreal439 You and me both if I'm honest, I've noticed a similar attitude grow in me as I've been taking my writing seriously, so I sorta have to remind myself that Doctor Who fundamentally isn't the kind of fully serialised work that would be able to accomplish that kind of thing.
Make the Doctor gay if you must but don't turn him into Captain Kirk. The Doctor loves one person chiefly - himself.
The doctor should not be lusting after anyone. Hated the episode as a result.
I hate how this episode has divided the fanbase into either: You Love This or your are homophobic.
I’m gay and burnt out with Russell shoving lgbt into every episode since his return. Like what happened to the balance he had in 2005-10 where it was good stories first. Overkill is just gonna lead to people turning off. Balance is much better.
And Romance should be left to companions. Swap the doctor for Jack her…be much better
And o cba to argue with Rose, River, Cameca, Reinette, Jack, Queen Liz, Rory, Astrid mentioners. Half of them kissed him. River is a complicated relationship as it is. Cameca and Liz engagement accidentally. I loathed Rose.
Agreed, and the comparison being made with Cameca is quite desperate. I fondly remember a Target book of the 1970s (The Making Of Doctor Who), which briefly summarised every story until then. Now, the summary of _The Aztecs_ said something like "the Doctor *flirts mildly* with Cameca", but what we saw in Rogue wasn't "mild flirting" by a long chalk... the Doctor was like a horny adolescent, practically getting the hots from the get-go, and inviting Rogue to elope with him. This felt so out of character - and out of place - to me, and really pulled me out of the story, which I was already struggling to enjoy anyway.