The Best Friends Who Became SERIAL KILLERS | True Crime Documentary
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- čas přidán 16. 12. 2020
- In this crime documentary, we're covering the horrifying true story of the Speed Freak serial killers: Loren Herzog and Wesley Shermantine, a terrifying duo suspected in the deaths of as many as 72 people. Growing up together as friends, no one could have possibly expected the heinous crimes they would commit starting in high school. While the disappearance of their first victim, Chevelle Wheeler, has been solved, new evidence is still being found involving the Speed Freak killers to this very day. How many other missing persons cases will eventually be linked to the duo? Will detectives uncover new clues in the years to come? Join us for a true crime storytime covering the case of the Speed Freak serial killers.
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You guys are better at this true crime/documentary stuff than any ID channel show. Top notch guys!!! Stellar as always!
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I like Criminally listed also
Facts
I like when detectives don’t respond. They leave that awkward silence, and the dummies just keep digging their own hole.
They did that with Chris Watts
The art of saying NOTHING..
Learn it. Use it.
Humans hate silence. We subconsciously will start talking to fill the silence even when trying to hold information back. You have to continue to tell yourself, don’t talk or don’t say anything. It’s something sales people use as well.
Being a VSP homicide detective it's our job. They think we are stupid or don't know truth is we know you our whole lives are about figuring you out and all murderers are the same usually the same motive usually the same element or attempt at deception. My kids hate me I am a human lie detector 😂
@@chriscosby1561 it's a good tool to have...especially if you ever help your kids get a job you can scope out the bullshit make sure they are safe.
PRO TIP: If you ever feel that someone is following you, take 4 right hand turns (or left hand turns). That puts you in a circle. Most people will turn off if they are trying to get to a destination, but if you are being followed they will continue on the right hand turns. Drive DIRECTLY to the nearest police station, hospital, or to a crowded area.
@@desmasic I mention this because a lot of times, someone is just going the same direction as you. So this is a sure fire way of saying you need to get to a police station or hospital ASAP, and solidifies you are being followed instead of being paranoid.
@@iwanttopk it always makes me laugh when people like you think you're teaching people like me ANYTHING
@@TheRealJaded i would never try teaching someone when they are unteachable. waste of time. although, one day you will grow up, hopefully.
@@TheRealJaded Let me guess you're ''strapped up'' ''ready for anything'' when in actuality a bunch of gangbangers could pull up & ''air you out'' right as you look over at them in traffic?
@@TheRealJaded Menace II society? Boyz N the hood? Even movies teach you.
That always blows my mind when there's two or more killers together. What are the odds of two people like that not only meeting but actually ending up openly talking about that?
I've wondered the same thing. How does that first conversation even start?
They wouldve probably been too cowardly to do it solo. A pack of betas. Check the crimes being commited today.
Would be a cool story to write.
perhaps there are more killers out there than we like to think, making the odds of two meeting up more likely than we think. O.O
Drugs and alcohol help a lot. I imagine it starts with them talking about it jokingly until one of them decides to actually do it at some point and the other one just goes along with it, presumably out of peer pressure. Both of them would have to already have a sick mind to be okay with it, obviously.
When the woman said "I put myself in an unsafe situation as a young woman", that hit me pretty hard. She didn't do anything wrong, she was just going to the bank
Its sad how it is for us un society but we should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYSSS try to limit any unsafe situation !!!!
@@SugaryPhoenixxx t
@@SugaryPhoenixxx Men also protect women if you try to put yourself on the offender shoes 👟 and go out look for lonley women ( hard to find ) women are protected by men and other women and they rarely walk alone to be a serial rapidt\ killer killing women you would have to be a specialist at stalking not being seen avoiding CCTV etc.
All odds are against you specially nowadays.
At a sociological level we are smarter and more prepared for this time of offender.
@@SugaryPhoenixxx There is a reason guns are referred to as "The Great Equalizer". They put you on an even playing field with anyone bigger and stronger than you. Get a gun, train with it, and carry it everywhere. Should you feel unsafe in your own neighborhood? No, but the world isn't a safe place. It's not just a men thing, it's not just an American thing. The world is just generally dangerous. Take responsibility for your own wellbeing and be prepared
@@kos_m824 ironically feminists and liberals want to ban guns lol
This narrator is probably one of the best I've heard so far on CZcams for a crime series!
He is great but the female (his wife?) is even better. I could listen to her read instructions and enjoy it.
Yes! Especially when in the intro, the line is spoken, “What IS up, EWU crew?” It sounds serious and sincere.
@@ValleyMermaid i love it when they say that & then its your favourite one narrating 😃
Totally !
I agree. Having the right person narrating makes all the difference in the world. That and the good content. I really like this channel.
Always listen to your gut feeling! Even if it's wrong...you can live to laugh about it.
I’m sure I’ve saved my life at least twice cuz of my gut! Bad feelings are BAD FEELINGS. listen to them! Of course, I also jump off the highest towers in the world, that’s a bad gut feeling as well, but I’m safe. I have left situations where it blew up 10 seconds later.... or just feeling I was about to get beat if I stay 2 seconds longer... you have a sixth sense for a reason....self preservation! ❤️🇨🇦
Absolutely.. I'm a firm believer in this.. I remember one time I was out shopping with my mom and it was a long busy day and she wanted to pop into a store, so I told her I'd sit in eyeshot of her on a bench outside the store and wait as my feet were killing me. Though I could see her and she could see me the bench was a distance away.. more than 10m if I had to estimate.. A guy joined me moments after she walked away, eating a pie and while it didn't bother me that he was eating it, or sitting next to me.. even though I was busy on my phone and watching my mom, I could sense he was watching me, and not in a flattering way either.. suffice it to say I was that thoroughly creeped out and not happy with this situation that I got up, joined my mom and to this day I'm glad I did. I could never explain exactly why but he gave off seriously creepy vibes and I wasn't going to stick around to figure out why. So, if at anytime, anywhere no matter how dumb you think you'll look, feel or seem - if something feels wrong, someone is giving you bad vibes, leave, walk away, do what you must but trust that instinct!
That's what I tell my kids honest to god
@@Tasha22Bella I was creepy when I was young, I've learned from it, and as a possible suspect of yours just know I only thought you were cute and probably well beyond my reach, I know it's not a compliment you wanted to recieve and it's highly inappropriate, I wish I learned appropriate social cues, early but having an alcoholic father and watch him treat me mom like property, i just never figured it out till I was 26 , maybe if the guy said something as simple as "how are you? would you like a slice of my pie" with a smile you might not have been as creeped out! still dont blame you for walking away and you definitely did the right thing. We never know what's actually going thru someone's mind and if they dont communicate then it's there own problem...
@Alpha Omega lol you are aware aithiets and agnostics use that terminology to express belief... not necessarily belief in god, personally I dont believe in religion, religion is a construct of man to control the masses I believe if god did exist he wouldnt care about us cause simply free will requires no faith faith isint needed for morality morality is easily defined as treating others as you would expect to be treated, religion was the crutch civilizations used to justify slavery, hunger, monarchy, and genocide amongst other things that are wrong with this world, my believe in god only goes as far as believing hes to fucking busy to care if he exists at all
The image of Cindy calling out to someone she cherished enough to nickname, someone she thought she knew to save her, while he watches her stoically from the car. The slow realization of what was about to happen, the fear and disbelief of betrayal.... What a disgusting excuse for human beings.
its so fucking sad, dude. poor girl.
God will resurrect her pretty soon. But these two monsters will rot forever!
🙏😔
Then her mother can hug her again and tell her how much she loves her! 🙏😔❤
God promises in his word the Bible about the near future:
With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” (Revelation 21: 3)
And:
Let go of anger and abandon rage; Do not become upset and turn to doing evil. 9 For evil men will be done away with, But those hoping in Jehovah will possess the earth. 10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. (Psalm 37: 8)
The drug wasn’t “largely responsible” for their actions. It just removed prohibitions for them to do what they wanted.
HAHA ! Gotta hate those darn prohibitions
Lmao, saying "prohibitions" makes it sound like the laws against what they did just went away once they were high on meth.
@@channelname8623 people can't speak English anymore. Does English class even still exist, or do people just plug in what they think they mean and click the first autocorrect that pops up?
Thank you! I know quite a few recovered meth addicts and none of them were violent during their active addictions. It’s about the person underneath
@@briannawaldorf8485 not always true. Meth made me violent as hell after 1 weekend. Never touched it again because I knew I'd kill someone. 48 now 0 violent crime history. Had a friend who wouldn't even fight another man. Strung out on meth shot a cop in the face. Clearly this isn't the case with every person but acting like meth is a safe, happy drug is ridiculous
What scares me is how many guys are out there that are like this
My ex brother in law was a cop and told me if you knew what was out there you’d never leave your house
did he tell you explicitly what was/is out there?
@@theBakinNoob probably not, it is so intense and disturbing you get sent to a dark place and it’s hard when you know how cruel life can be
That’s why she carry weapons
I know what’s out there so i don’t leave my house
@@Jezebel066 good guys can’t win a girls heart Yeah That’s true
It’s all lie Loves emotions no one cares so choosing a single lyf isn’t that bad
It's not fair to say that meth CAUSED them to do it, because if that was the case every meth addict would be a murderer, too. It is safe to say that for someone who is already inclined towards violence and murder, it would probably only bring out a much more extreme version of that in them.
Drugs can cause mental issues and psychosis and other mental problems so your wrong
@@lukedarling6179 That's especially true when the person is already prone to psychosis and other mental problems. Whether we're talking about meth, bath salts or hallucinogens like LSD, it's a chicken and egg argument. Generally speaking if substances bring those symptoms out in people they were already prone to it to begin with.
@@voteZDLR drugs like weed and LSD are prone too cause psychosis even if you don’t suffer from metal issues it can cause it from drugs ether way drugs mess with your metal state
@@lukedarling6179 If you have underlying mental issues then drugs are more likely to bring those types of experiences on. I have never heard of someone who is otherwise of normal/sound mind who smoked some weed and went into a psychosis. Maybe K2/synthetic weed, but not cannabis itself. ONLY if there is already something underlying would that be possible. Acid on the other hand I think would be more likely to drive an otherwise healthy person (mentally) to psychosis, but still, the more fragile the mind is to begin with the more likely it is to happen. Point is, I think if anyone has a psychotic episode on cannabis for sure, that's because they already had an undiagnosed issue under that. And when it comes to acid, I still think what I am saying is mostly true but between the two of them I guess acid would be more likely to trigger psychosis. Basically this is why I tell people if you suffer from depression or mental problems, probably best to steer clear of psychedelics like shrooms and acid.
People always try to blame the drugs. It’s like liberals now days who always blame the guns when people get shot. It’s not the gun it’s the person holding the gun. Like it’s not the drugs it’s the person using the drugs.
Almost the same thing happened to me when I was in elementary. I was walking home, on the street. I noticed that there was a car slowly driving beside me, so I turned and looked at him and it was a guy. Right after I looked at him, he said, "hey do you need a ride? I can get you home" at that time, I was on a road where there was no people usually walks around and I lived in province where there was more trees and more a secluded kind of area. Then I remember that there was a lot of rape and death accidents on that road where a couple of victims were young girls getting rape and thrown out there dead and cold. So what I did was, I ran as fast as I could and made sure that I stopped where there was a couple of people around. I talked this about my parents and they were thankful that I was safe. I didn't know the agenda of that guy but as a young girl at that time, I just trusted my gut. It's better to be safe than sorry.
My dad always told me to "listen to your little voice, you'll know it when you hear it" the one time I didn't listen I got jumped by 12 people and sent to the hospital, to this day when I hear that voice say " don't do this" or " go for it " it has never steered me wrong.
Yeah I hear that voice at the casino and it fucks me so yeah there's little truth I see
That's Jesus Christ "the little voice" in all of us is God.
Yeah I think we all ignore the little voice sometimes.. I ignored it and got jumped by 3 blokes who did their best to batter me!
cyndi was my friend and co worker she was such a fun person to be around she had such an amazing laugh and loved to watch footloose she will always be in my thoughts i remember these guys coming into our work and i would walk away she felt they were her friends her laugh is what makes me smile.
I remember her case, I lived there at the time, so sorry for your loss.
Damn small world.
I went to middle school and high school with Cindy. She was friends with everybody no matter what group or click you were in. I remember a few parties at her parents house in Wallace, such fun times! After all these years when I think about her I still picture her in her cheerleading uniform. She was beautiful inside and out.
She also did meth so 🤷♂️
@@moynihansamm well, if so, she paid the ultimate price for it.
I was half asleep watching this, and I thought you said “uwu crew” and my eyes shot open
Lol every time I hear uwu crew 🤣
@@somebodywhosnotyou same 🤣
Wtf is uwu?
@@Beardedgumby It's an emoji
@@novatalking uWu oopsy woopsy, I made a fucky wucky! A wittle fucko boingo
I just wanna take a moment to appreciate the poetry of the line, "Wesley and his family maintain that freshly slain game were to blame for the stain."
BARS!
BAR GOD 😂😂
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Lol I laughed when I heard it after reading your comment
Some Dr Zeuss shit 😂😂😂
@@DAVINCHI061 ppppp0l
I knew and went to school with Chevy Wheeler. My friends and I warned Chevy not to be hanging out with Shermantine because we heard and knew that he was bad news. My friends and I were so sad when she went missing.
I used to live in Rockford, Illinois. In 1987, I was stopped at a light, late at night, when a car with 2 young guys pulled up next to me. I looked over at them, and saw a gun pointed at me. Thing is that I had a gun too! I pointed mine back at them and they hauled ass! I moved away about 4 months later!
You go girl 😆
Really scared 😱
Whoa! What's going on in illinois?!😲
Go Darci!!!
@@chanted1558 Crazy shit there .
You tell a phenomenal story man! Keeps you on the edge of your seat without revealing too much and spoiling it for us, but at the same time, painting the perfect picture for us to get a real idea of what took place…perfectly laid out and very interesting as always! Definitely my favorite crime channel!
The narrator's voice makes me feel like this is similar to a modern-day Forensic Files, and it gives me similar vibes. Amazing videos, EWU 👏👏
And I don't find myself missing the slap bass and keyboard flutes!
I not really a true crime fan, having rather merely stumbled over your channel, but this production value by itself has already earned you my sub!
Not really a fan of English either
@@jonathan2416 It's fine. You left your civility at the door, so I don't see a reason people should use perfect grammar.
If you're up for reccomendations, Fascinating Horror does a series focused on building and crash documentaries. I remember a few even going into some of the changes made to prevent future disasters, which makes them very....fascinating videos.
EWU is that for true crime. Great channel here, and worth the subscription!
Same, stumbled across this channel maybe a week ago, and have been binging them ever since.
@@jonathan2416 Given the rest of the sentence, I'd say that's clearly just a typo.
I crossed paths with these 2 speed freak killers back in 1987 or 88. I was about 19. They were drinking and playing pool at the Coloma Club in Lotus, California. They came up to talk to me and the bartender shoed them away. Saying to me that they were druggies and to stay away from them.
I remember them because I got a freaked out feeling looking at Wes's eyes, which I've never forgotten.
Wes was loud and obnoxious and Lauren was quiet. People seemed to know who they were. At least the bartender did but I never saw them again until their faces were plastered on TV 10 or 20 years later. Is it possible that they lived near the American river in Coloma at the time?
Wesley lived in San Andreas on the 90s, not sure about that time frame. He lived in the same neighborhood as my grandparents
Mhmm.
Okay, I love this comment section and everyone sharing their stories. If you think about it, pbly most of us have (almost) been in some sort of sketchy situation, maybe even without realizing it.. I remember one specific incident where my best friend and I were walking home after a night out. It was maybe about a 20 min walk. Shortly after leaving the main streets, I noticed a man walking behind us. My friend was oblivious and kept talking but I wanted to see if he was following us, so I bent down and pretended that I had to re-do my shoelaces. (thinking back on it, maybe not the smartest idea, if you come across the wrong person). He then actually stopped right beside us, started up a conversation and started walking with us. While my friend was talking to him, I mostly didn't join in on the conversation, only when addressed directly - he wasn't exactly unpleasant or anything but I just had a weird feeling. He kept walking with us the whole time and when we reached the last bigger intersection before really going in the direction of my friend's house, I stopped and told him in a firm but not unpleasant tone that I wanted to go on without him. I don't remember my exact words but that was the basic message. It was a little awkward but he left us to go on alone and we got home safe. Later on I told my friend that I didn't want the guy to know where she lived. I don't know if anything would've happened and obviously he wasn't the "worst" kind of person to come across, maybe he really was just being talkative or nice or coincidentally going in the same direction or whatever but better save than sorry. Even if it was a weird feeling, cutting him off like that, I felt so much better after - and that's the thing I think. We often don't say anything in situations we're not feeling comfortable in because we think it might make a situation awkward but that really shouldn't hold you back from standing up for yourself, in whatever kind of situation.
I once had a person open my car door on me at a stop sign. I gunned it before even thinking. Who knows what could have happened.
Crazy ... I grew up with Loren's sons, both were very nice, down to earth people, one ended up committing suicide.. I knew their grandfather, he was a decent man ... It's a shame...
If it was them who approached this woman, she wasn't the only one who got away. The way they ultimately got caught, was they followed a woman in broad daylight to he rural home with a long driveway, her husband happened to be home. She called her husband saying a car is following her into their property and he approached the car outside with a firearm. They then peeled out on the pavement and left. The Sheriffs at the time were on to Wesley and Loren and were able to dive deeper into the investigation, it all started with matching tire marks to one of their vehicles..
Shermantine's son is absolutely nuts, I see him walking past my job almost every day with a dead squirrel or raccoon on his shoulder yelling random things..
Oh my gosh!!!
Madness.
Is the son picking up roadkill? What is he doing with the animals?
exactly that, he doesn't bother anyone as far as I know .. But we call him "Squirrel guy" in Stockton. @@thistangledartist2980
I’m glad Herzog was treated as an outcast. People like him cannot be rehabilitated.
29:36 it's not 'scotch free', it's Scott free 🤣🤣
Rent used to be known as Scott hundreds of years ago, that's where the term came from just FYI, that made me chuckle lol 🤣
You're both right, 'Scott' or 'Scotch' are variants of the original 'Scot Free'. And 'Scot' was actually a form of tax in the Middle Ages. But yeah, it could be called 'Rent' since you had to pay it every month.
I def noticed that too
And here I was thinking I've been saying it wrong all this time.
This dude needs an award for best crime scene voice ever
Agreed, he's the best.
The scariest story I've ever had is at work, I was by myself and a car drove past at (not exaggerating) 3 miles an hour and then back at that speed and they were just staring into the window. Then a half hour later the same person came back and did the same thing but in a different car. Then the business phone rang and it was just breathing. That's the creepiest thing I ever will need in my life and don't need anything else
Wow that is creepy
Just a couple months ago or so I was at the bank broad day and these 2 young dudes were in the line to the atm but back further to let cars ahead of them there was other cars there maybe one at atm and one at the teller drive thru they seen me pull up n rolled down their windows and asked me to cash an 800 dollar check for them and give ‘em the cash blah blah whatever I told them I don’t have enough in my account to cover it and they we’re like as soon as it goes thru u take it out which is instant but sometimes with larger amount check deposits my bank will give me like 100 or 200 maybe even more of it but not the whole thing until they do whatever they do and the check clears my dumbass who shoulda ignored them explained this to them n they were like nah so I was like hold up let me drive yo do what I gotta do then I got u I pulled up took out some money n pulled up n they were following me with there hands up I motioned I’m pulling back around n like I said they still followed nbi skirt took a right on the main road which I would have needed to take a left to loop back around n they didn’t really follow me but they did go the same way as me but I was out lol. Week later 2 kids arrested charged with getting ppl to cash fake checks at the atm they were getting ppl to cash the checks take out whatever tell ‘em they can keep the rest for the favor idk n they took ur money while ur check bounces I’m assuming idk how that works exactly but yeah it was the same kid I’m 99.9 percent sure as I could only remember what the driver looked like I can still picture it in my head. The news showed their face
Get a gun or call cops or some people with guns
@@antonilagares8453
damn man.. you are writing like an 8 year old tik tok boy 😂
Where are your commas and fullstops?
hey i think that was me, i was seeing what kind of place it was because i didn’t have my glasses on and when i had called i forgot what to say and got really shy and nervous! sorry to cause a scare 😅
One inaudible part Lauren was saying during the interview was "let it come natural" Wes was taking her life and telling her to relax and let death come natural.
Spoiler alert
Yeah I don't know why they said it was hard to hear. I heard it clearly. It was also on American Justice or one of the Bill Kurtis shows where it's much clearer. I found that strange.
:(
No I
Don’t want to discredit the anonymous witness but um I think her story is full of holes .
Oh my gosh! Thank you! I felt the same but didn't want to be a bitch. I don't believe her. Or she's absolutely exaggerating her experiences and just assuming it was them. The whole "them screeching into the parking lot" made no sense. They saw a single woman from far away so decided to make as much noise as possible? Not buying it.
@@itsjustbrandy4290 Once she said the car had trouble starting in the past I thought “Dead give away, dead give away.
I felt her story was pretty up front. There were no discrepancies throughout. I listened intently for them twice. One thing you kids need to take into consideration is that the experience she's speaking about would have happened 25 years ago give or take and that she was trying to cold convey it via a telephone interview. Not to mention one of you said that there's screeching up on a random single woman doesn't make sense. In what world does that not make sense? That kind of stuff happens all the time. Not to mention that as it turns out a lot of the murders that these two men committed were random victims who they happened upon. Or maybe you weren't listening to the same story that I was but in every sense of the word these two men were opportunists.
Saying “Ya know?” every other word was pretty sus....
@@beccabarker3974 What was up with that??! I was tempted to listen again and count how many time she said "ya know" It made me cringe.
Dang, after being “best friends” for decades, they sure did turn on each other really quickly.
I know quite a few ex meth addicts, grew up around them as well. Not once did any of them ever want to kill anybody. Sure the drugs could have made it easier for them, but its not why they did it. Evil is why they did it
Did they have any mental, neural or physiological issues after kicking the stuff, compared to who they were before?
Not all cigarettes smokers die of lung cancer, therefore cigarettes don't cause cancer...right?
That's the kind of mental trap we must never fall into when looking at drugs use in society. Just because some people that take drugs aren't violent, doesn't mean that drugs don't cause violence. The harm all illegal drugs cause to society is abundantly clear.
I almost went with her to go swimming but decided not to go. Her favorite song was "Jessie Girl" My friend's sister was married to Loren Herzog. I knew them. Alot of girls were taken from my neighborhood I still live in this neighborhood. My son went missing in April 4th 2008 was 17 found floating in canal blocks from home. He was with "Friends" and no one knows what happened to him. One guy told 4 different stories. The authorities never did back up work Im still fighting for Justice. I went to Chevy Wheelers funeral and met the 2 bounty hunters/Investigators Larry Padilla and Rob Dick.They have my son's File and will be working on his case. 12 years Unsolved. Im so glad Chevy and Cyndi have been brought home. These 2 guys were sick. Wes should be dead. Loren killed himself he didn't wanna come back to neighborhood.
I'm sorry for your loss
I’m so sorry
Thank.you
Im so sorry to read this horrible tragedy that you have had to live through 🥺 being a parent is so wonderful but so scary at the same time and it doesn't matter how old your kids get you still worry about them. I hope you get the justice you deserve and they can find your boy and bring him home and hopefully get some answers to all the questions you may have.
Sending positive vibes, and prayers your way xxxxx
@@ginaperez8139
Yes i know he has passed when I said " bring your boy home" I was saying find his body so she can finally put him to rest properly and have some sort of closure and peace knowing where he is now
I had the unfortunate experience of meeting these two guys. It’s weird because I rarely think about it, but just was tonight. Now here it is. I try not to watch anything about them but it is too big of a coincidence.
Where have you been hanging out?
How did you survive or were you in any danger?
@@eunicestone838 I think he's lying.
@dražen g yes, that is what I was thinking too. A follower, yet still guilty.
Play @ 1.25x speed. You'll thank me later..
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Lol cool trick
Anonymous victim: nothing happened to you. You got spooked and went home. Like are you serious?
Right like jesus that story was pointless and rambling. Just straight up woman moment
@@liquidtotem77 Agreed…maybe a mention of it but man she went onnnnnn
It's like they veered from W is trying to fast talk his way off death row offering to lead the law to locations of real bodies to distracting viewers with this hyped up story - not to fault the woman for using common sense and booking out of a dark ben slightly secluded empty bank lot when 2 dudes screech in and park right next to her and one guy jumps out fast and she thinks hey let me be on the safe side and warn others to act quick to be safe rather than sorry!
@@liquidtotem77LOL literally
Only an incel would say this
You are my baseline in judging other channels .. they have to be as engaging as the EWU! If not they get dropped. Thanks for a well researched and narrated show!
I enjoyed when the family went out but much happier knowing everyone is safe.
I’m amazed that they get hold of the police files and videos.
If u like this channel check out mrballen on yt. He's got like 1.5 million subs. Once u check it out it will be ur favorite channel. Guaranteed
Agree! 💯! And they never do seem to be as good as EWU 🐺
JCS is better imo, but only a little bit and they don't upload anywhere near as much.
@@carolinemaybe this one channel I follow I think said they call and get the videos but the police give them what they allow so some stuff is edited in certain parts or no sound during a part of the video and they prob get told no on certain stuff but yeah I wonder if that’s what it takes to do some better research on exactly what went on
"No honor among thieves", indeed...
Absolutely
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All I heard from that supposed lady's confession experience at Bank of America was "YoU kNoW"
For whatever reason, as a child and a young woman, I was a magnet for would be rapists, abductors and pedophiles. I was molested, trapped several times in the basement, by a man in my building at age 9 and I had eyes in the back of my head after that.
My gut ALWAYS told me when I wasn't safe, and I always listened and a combination of that ,and the fact that i become a wild animal if I think I am cornered, saved me from all the attempts.
You would think this would cease when a woman gets older but don't fool yourself.
I was stalked in my early sixties by a man I met via an organization. He was starting a business similar to mine and I gave him my business phone #, but immediately began to feel I was not safe. After seeing him at a meeting, instead of allowing him to walk with me back to where I was staying in NYC, I went instead to a bookstore, and he went his way..only to start texting incessantly. I should let him cook me dinner, I should meet his son and on and on. Something prompted me to have a friend in corrections run a background check on the guy. He had done two years in prison for rape and robbery. I showed his mugshot to all the doormen on the street, wore disguises and took different routes any time I was in this area and eventually shook him.
Then, at age 67 right after my husband died, I was stalked by a man I knew . I made him very sorry he messed with me.
All this to say , if you feel something is not right in your gut, especially if you are a woman of ANY age, LISTEN to that feeling because it will save your life.
I also have a gun now. Enough already!
72839 serial killer documentaries and criminal investigation videos later...I just now run across this channel. Fantastic work. Definitely earned a new sub.
You keep count?
How are they not the top serial killer? Like they’re unheard of. Their not in the talks with Jeffery and zodiac or golden state killer but yet had triple the murderers then them
There is still little evidence confirmation, and zero physical evidence against Herzog.
Little evidence..just like the woman claiming to be a victim of theirs sounds like she was a victim but it's fishy that she just came out with this story she sounds like a victim of someone but we don't know if it's them..
@@Sassysidewalk2.0 I agree with you and she talks so long, its almost feels like bla,bla,bla and she just want to be on media. But I don´t know, just a feeling.
@@Sassysidewalk2.0 I believe the woman 100 percent... it was them
A lot of murderers tell tales about murders they supposedly did. It helps them in prison.
I have a similar expereince that I never really talked about. When aI was 10 and my family went fishing and I went to use the bathroom at the park we were at ,and a man came in dressed in camouflage had a hoodie and his face covered. He held me in there at knife point, trying to show me grafic pictures, I screamed as loud as I could, Idk why he let me go,, my praying I guess. I ran back to whwre my mom and dad were my dad grabed me by my hand ran me back stopped cars asking me is this him , Im like Idk his face was covered. I also dont know why my dad never reported it. 😡 then when I got older an internet came out, I watched read about true crime and because of the documentey I 5 killer, and the car he drove, timeline where he lived, where I lived.. Im almost posative I somehow excaped death that day from Randall Woodfield.
That feeling is unlike anything I've ever felt before. My woman's friend that lived a few hours away out of nowhere called wanting to come down and visit but as soon as he walked through the door I had a horrible feeling in my stomach. He stayed for a couple days and he had been taken to the PD for using a credit card that didnt belong to him but it had been dismissed that it was his roomates and he had explained it away somehow. But eventually we had asked him to leave cause that feeling was keeping me awake and it only had gotten worse after that credit card incident, then later that day the cops showed up looking for him. Turned out he had brutally killed the man he had been living with with a claw hammer because he was being kicked out.
Creepy
He was using y'all's place as a hideout. Like they say here in the video and like a lot of us know, go with your gut feeling immediately.
Yeah the scariest thing is he stole his roommates revolver and had it on him and was around my children.
@@TheErinyesVexation don’t let your women have guy friends It’s you or it’s them.
Glad use are safe though.
Commenting a year later, but what tf. I’m so glad he didn’t harm you and your family also. That’s so scary. Good intuition.
Anyone else notice how much the woman interviewed at the end says “ya know”? 😅
Also her story reminds me of Ross gelers "near death experience" from the show friends
I did ya know 😏
She was either lying or over exaggerating A LOT
Ya know I didn't really pick up on it
People who used to many ya know, i always noticed.... kinda annoying!
Ohhhh...this voice sends shivers down my spine as much as this story. Fantastic choice EWU ! Thank you for your hard work. Stay safe!
Old military adage is that complacency kills and that woman's bank experience is a great example of how not being complacent saved a life. She kept her head on a swivel and had excellent situational awareness.
Stay on alert u never know when your spider senses gone save you
This seems like police negligence. They found a missing person's blood in a property of a person of interest and decided to let the case go cold?!
Hey found blood of THE SAME BLOOD TYPE, I think is what was said.
No DNA no evidence get it now?
No body, no crime. In order to indict, you need prima facea evidence, saying there's a conclusive evidence in court to get arrest warrant. It's not the officers fault. Judicial system fxd up sometimes in certain way.
@@ddl4374the first girl that went missing was the one that matched blood type in the hunting cabin, but the other girl was matched directly to the blood in the car
During that time they could only identify blood types, not dna.
You added a lot of details that I didn’t know about, even after watching this case on a few other channels and reading about the story a bit. Well done video, love the small things you guys add.
" The best way to get out of a situation is to not get into it in the first place so always be aware of your surroundings (which is what saved that one girl's life) and always trust your gut instinct. Never allow yourself to be taken to another location for your chances of survival drops significantly so scream, run make a scene cos most likely the perpetrators will flee but even if they shoot you in the back and you die, it will be a much quicker and less horrifying way to die."
A paraphrase of what my self defense instructor (not regular self defense instead street fighting and some military techniques showing how to fight dirty and how to disable a man long enough to get away which btw, he only taught women) said and he actually went through many commonly used scenarios and how to get out of them specifically which has saved my life on 2 occasions.
@John Dizo.... what?
Your defense instructor taught you common sense, congratulations.
THIS. All of this. 💯
@@KasparrTV you’d be surprised how many freeze with a gun to their temple and cooperate in hopes they won’t be hurt by fighting back and many expect rape, especially when they’re being told they can live if they do what they’re told. Many will even cooperate with being restrained….. it’s not as common as you’d think, especially as a woman and you NEVER know how you’d react UNTIL it happens. We need campaigns and classes to teach women and children, even men, how to survive
I always trust my guy instinct one phone call he never let's me down
I absolutely love the visuals, storyline and narrator ! Better then a lot of tv
that lady in the interview sounded like she just likes to hear herself talk and has told that story so many times she really thinks that because the car screeched somehow that means there was ill intent.
The fact shes remaining anonymous and not getting a pity party on facebook over it, shes not saying this for fame and even points out its completely possible it wasnt them it's just a big coincidence, so I believe her when she shares her story it deffinalty happened weather it's the same suspects or not is unknown and if it wasnt then that means theres more threats out there to be concerned of...
She even said it herself that she isn't 100 percent sure and just thinks it is likely for it to be them in that scenario.
So you’re saying if she didn’t remain anonymous then you wouldn’t believe her. This is why the fuck more women don’t go to the police as soon as things happen. Because of shitheads like you who don’t believe them.
@@Rountree1985 no he isn’t? He’s just saying there’s not a cat in hell’s chance she’s doing it for fame because her name wasn’t even released. Smh stop being so immediately judgemental 🤦♀️
@@ninetailedfox579121 you’re a dummy
Sounds like crap to me. Basically two men pull up in a car park and she shits herself. She doesn’t say they approach the car or anything not even sure it’s them. Then she try’s to paint herself as the one that got away completely changing what Wes said, he said she got away from a gas station. Besides they never even had her for her to be the one that got away. This woman just wants to be part of some fantasy.
I have loved True Crime for years now! Thanks for presenting some of the best videos on this subject matter!!! Pat
Ewu and mrballen is basically all I watch lmaooo
Literally!!! I have nothing better to do at school
Same!! Plus Bailey Sarian
Man these videos are so good. I used to love the exploring videos but man I can’t stop watching these new videos.
Time to get my blanket and sit down on the couch with my cup of tea 💙🐺
Is it green tea I want some☕😜
Speaking my language 🤓
That's how I watch these videos :D
@@brokensmilebrokendreams7778 Yeah green tea with some cardamom :D
@@beheshtasiddiqui900 lol🤪
Seriously, one of the best channels on CZcams. I've been a fan for a few years now. I do wish we had names to call the voices though. Even if they are made up. Lol
Beverly and Gramps
Lol I’m just kidding but I agree they should have names 😅
From previous ep I thik this one is the raven's voice
i dont know what happened but i watched you everyday, then something happened and you guys werer gone... i love this narrators voice, its like finding a long lost friend, like when you watch i love lucy, or the golden girls. feels like old friends. thank you for your work.
It breaks my heart hearing her blame herself. We're always told to "not put ourselves in dangerous situations"... It sucks cos it's true. We have to balance out the shittiness of other people to keep ourselves safe. Good lord I hate it.
Another reason why women have to stick together, and for the most time we do. It's called a sisterhood for a reason❤
This is our reality.
Keep weapons I never see why a woman never Carry a knife or something to help defend themselves . Peoples care free nature thinkintbthe world is bubblegum makes them easy targets
@@armygirl85fuckhitler74 Stick to a strong and good man.
That's just nature. Tell me: would you ever walk into the woods in bear country, unarmed? Or swim deep in shark-infested waters?
Humans are predators too. We just evolved the ability to hide that crueler nature. Treat the unfamiliar with as much caution as you would a wild animal.
I'm 54 years old. In 1975 my oldest sister was having a sleepover with friends. All the girls were running around half naked being goofy. I seen a man looking through the window in the living room and he ducked down when he seen that I was looking at him. I froze in fear and began studdering choking for breath. My sister made fun of me for my behavior at the moment and the man was able to slip away. She and her friends thought I was being silly but it happened. To this day I can remember the look on that man's face looking through the window of our home.
Hope you told your dad.
Your reaction was very normal.
Never know he might have been looking at you 🤷♂️
You should have run after him or at the very least called the cops.
I'd have been at the window too load of girls half naked yes please
@@lennarthagen3638 dude, he was SEVEN. I woulda SHIT MY FUCKIN PANTS if I saw a grown man I didn't recognize looking in my window when I was seven.
Just failed 2 exams that i stayed up the past few days to study for. But its alright bc EWU crew uploaded😃
Better luck next time 😜
Ouch. Can you get help on the subjects? Hard when actually put in the work.
@@ekramer2478 im doing online, which makes it a little harder to get help..the school canceled the in-person school exams, but made us do ours :( most of my teachers didnt even bother to try to make a review lesson or anything. I just studied what i thought was the most important/Useful. And i don't have anyone at home that has time to help me. Im kinda regretting picking online over in person, but majority of my family work in the medical field and are exposed to COVID almost everyday. I didnt want to get anyone sick at school if it got carried into my house from all the exposure. I did end up getting a mild case of it, which put me a little behind school in the first place. I feel like its unfair for them to make us take the tests, we are effected by the same reason everyone else is, and just because we're at home dosnt make things less stressful. Im used to doing things for myself, but i wasnt prepared for doing these tests with no guidance or anything :(
@@Abby-zo4wj Oh dear I hear that! Are there any online tutors your family might get you? Which subjects if I might ask?
@@ekramer2478 The subjects I failed were Math and English, and no, my Dad just thinks im lazy, and he wouldnt want to pay for it. (I dont really know if they cost money??) Im a sophmore in highschool :)
The only bond men can make together is through their own blood and tears. Not through inflicting pain and tears upon others. No wonder they turned so easily on one another. There's no bonds in evil other than the ones that drag you to hell.
As a staunch Brit I can confirm that EWU's content is way ahead of anything that the BBC puts out
I watch alot of British crime shows. They're entertaining. Midsummer Murders is one of my favorites. The videos here are are alsome for real life and disturbing.
I love BBC truecrime shows like Top of the Pops from 1970-1988 or anything else with Jimmy Saville. He fixed it for everyone....with his genitals
That’s crazy. I done meth for two years (also been clean for two years and not looking back) and I was never ever violent. I stayed to myself and played a lot of video games.
Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Omg you guys have the best narrators. Absolutely a pleasure listening to your stories.
When I was 15 years old I was held at gunpoint by an acquaintance (friend of a friend who i was cordial with). It was outside of my family home at the neighborhood park and I was with my best friend at the time (male, 16yo) and we are still friends to this day. My best friend and I were walking on the way to an eye doctor appointment I had nearby, and my other friend (the guy who was friends with the acquaintance) called to see if I wanted to hangout. The two lived together nearby and I explained I had an eye doctor appointment but we could hangout afterwards. They ended up coming to the eye doctor with us and my best friend, my other friend, and the acquaintance waited for me to finish in the lobby. Once I was done, we walked back to my house. We hungout in my garage because my parents weren't home and they were unfamiliar with the acquaintance so he wasn't allowed in my house. I made pizza rolls for everyone and stole some Jamaican rum from my parents which we started drinking. We ran out and my friend + the acquaintance let us know they had found an abandoned storage closet behind an apartment complex behind my neighborhood where they had wine. We walked there and got the wine and walked back to my house. Everything was going fine. We were pretty intoxicated just laughing and joking. Suddenly, the acquaintance pulled a gun out of his backpack and started yelling at all of us. The acquaintance and the friend started to argue. I was crying and didn't know what to do. So we guided the guy with the gun away from my house towards a park in my neighborhood. It was broad daylight and eventually the guy started to hold the gun to his own head and making suicidal comments. We tried to talk him down near the street/sidewalk and grass while slowly moving towards the park. After a while he stopped holding it to his head and started screaming at us again. The park was fenced in and he was pointing the gun towards me and my friend and he was screaming at me saying stuff like "a girl like you would never give me the time of day." My best friend stood in front of me and started telling the guy if he was going to shoot me he had to shoot both of us. I was hysterical at this point obviously. My best friend kept talking to him and finally the guy grabbed the container filled with wine and began chugging it. At this moment both my best friend and other friend wrestled him to the ground. The other friend got a hold of the gun and the guy started chasing him, so the friend shot a round into the sky to scare him away. He unloaded the gun and threw the bullets in a nearby pond. The guy took off and we found out later he ran to his friend's girlfriend's house. My friend and best friend walked me home because their shoes were still at my house. I was in a consensual sexual relationship with the friend in the past (not my best friend) and asked him to come inside with me as I was beyond drunk and didn't want my parents to get mad because they arrived home while we were gone. He came inside with me and sexually assaulted me. My best friend laid in the grass in my backyard because the cops were circling my neighborhood and me & my best friend had been in trouble with the police for marijuana at the same park not all that long before this happened. My friend ran home once the cops left. The guy in my house asked me to make him a sandwich so I went upstairs to do it as I was so intoxicated I didn't even piece together the assault at the time plus I was extremely traumatized from the events earlier in the evening. My dad realized how drunk I was and made the guy leave my house. The next day at school the police interviewed me and my best friend and recieved a one page written statement from both of us. Neither of us were charged with anything due to the circumstances. The two other guys were both arrested. But the guy who held us at gunpoint was only charged with ONE count of intimidation with a deadly weapon and I believe an alcohol violation. We were never spoken to from the police again. Never fully formally interviewed. And he should've had 3 counts of the charges. My parents obtained the police report and it was so misguided. I never told anyone about the assault except my best friend until my freshman year of college. I didn't even remember telling my best friend earlier but when I told him in college he explained he already knew. My parents grounded me for like 9 months and we have never talked about it again. I was so traumatized the incident still comes up in therapy sometimes to this day. I had reoccurring nightmares. The guy was released after a couple months and has many adult charges of violent crimes. One almost identical to what he did to us. One of the craziest parts is thinking about how he had the gun the entitle time in the waiting room of the eye doctor. He was deemed mentally ill and I can't imagine what would've happened if he would've snapped while there.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m sorry you had to experience any of it. Blessings to you ❤
@@p.siadoreyou9050 thank you very much ❣
When I think about trusting people I think about Dennis rader look him up and he was BTK when they caught him he was a deacon at his church he was head of the neighborhood watch he was a respected pillar of his community his wife had no idea that he could be the monster he was. The reason I think about that is because it reminds me that the only person on this Earth I can trust is me because the only mind I can read is mine. It doesn't matter how long you've known someone or how intimately you have known them if you can't read their mind you have no idea what the hell they're thinking.
Was thinking about this while working with a coworker who talks behind peoples back and is friendly to their face! I can only trust me
Those people trust her and I have heard her talk behind their backs!!
@@jenniferdavis5176that's pretty normal at a workplace, people do that alot and also reasons why? To keep their job, can't be talking smack to the person at work. But you can say it to other people and get away with it. But people like murders and malicious intentions are totally different type of "different to your face".
A guy tried to abduct me from a club one day. He followed me around, tried to dance with me...and when my friends went upstairs and I was on my own he struck. He dragged me kicking and screaming to the emergency exit. Lying to the bouncer that I was his drunk sister....and he was taking me home. Luckily...a much larger guy saw and he stopped him. He asked me if I was ok, and I said no...and the guy bolted out the door.
Yikes. I hope you called the police to report it! I never had anyone do anything like that to me(thank god) but when I was a teen I worked at a McDonald’s and had some sketchy man pretending to be my dad calling my manager to ask if I was there and if he could know what my schedule was. Thankfully my manager felt weirded out about it and didn’t tell the man anything. I’ve always wondered if I dodged something scary myself.
@@IratePuffin wow...sounds like it. I was in shock and I regret that I didnt report it. I have searched his specs from time to time hoping not to see him coming up as a killer but, I know he was up to no good. I was completely shocked and freaked out. I think about it often, like what could have happened to me and needless to say, I don't go clubbing anymore! I will never forget his face. Very skinny, normal looking guy, curly dyed blonde hair and glasses. He didn't look like a monster but they don't always.
Same thing happened to me except it was like 4 men dragging me to their car while my brothers were getting the car out of the parking garage thank God my brother was a bouncer at the club he had to threatened them to let me go because they were telling him they knew me and was making sure I got home safe yeah right I still think God they didn't get me in their car
Things that never happened for a thousand, Alex
@@IfGodWereEvilHedBeMe I wish it hadn’t
I love your channel. You guys do amazing work!
You do better work than the MSM. Keep it up!
i love watching interrogations where the detectives have the high ground and just pull apart every detail of the lie
The presentation and production value blows my mind with every video I watch from every EWU channel.
Edit: Still waiting to hear the Raven read something ridiculous or unexciting... like a Chinese takeout menu. 🤣
My cousin went missing in a huge spate of missing women in Ireland..theres never been one tiny clue, neighbour's seen heart the gate of her house but she never made it in her mother has suffered in the 20 plus years since ..most of the family feel shes dead but dont know if she was found alive after years of torture and suffering would that be better ..im not sure..I know her mam would give anything to have her home, we for years taught she hit her head and couldn't remember who she was but as the years passed it seems less lightly and Ireland is so small someone would have seen her because her face was all over the news etc and every year since ..so sad n scary ..when seeing someone home seeing them about to go in there garden and actually seeing them go into there house are very different..I'm never happy till I see my daughters friends go in there front door ..I cant even say RIP Dedera as we have no way of knowing and if shes definitely dead how could she RIP when her mother can never have a half second of peace in this life till she knows what really happened to her daughter....
Sad and scary. You did a good job pointing out why it's so important to keep Missing person and cold cases in the public eye. It's important for the family as well as getting justice for the victim.
Wife: He must be cheating on me.
Me and the bois: THE BEST FRIENDS WHO BECAME SERIAL KILLERS
no
bois as in boy's?
@@bigdaddytrichardson4994 boys
You got the whole squad laughing 😐😐
Thankful that one woman trusted her instincts. Even if it wasn’t them, it could have been someone just like them.
The show Criminal Minds did a few of their episodes based on real serial killers and they did one that was similar to these psychopaths ,the two brothers that hunted human beings and it was seriously creepy .Even though these two weren't brothers they were brothers in the horror they did together when killing so many people and I hate to think what they put their victims through ,truly horrifying .
I remember that episode. They took their cars and IDs. CM is so intense I had to take a break from watching it.
5:58 this guy is spittin'!!
Bars!!🔥🔥
“Wesley and his folks maintained that the previously slaughtered gain was to blame for the blood stains” 😤🔥
LOVE THE CHANNEL! STAY SAFE EVERYONE!
I get a weird feeling that the anonymous victim is lying.
Her tale of 2 guys giving her the heebiejeebies in a dark bank lot may well be true but this sure was hyped way up. Did she get payed? Was my first thought.
I loved this up until the anonymous almost might-have-been victim was introduced. That's mere filler
Yeah, I'm sorry but that sorry carries zero credibility to me. Why stay anonymous? Why was she sitting in her car for 5-10 minutes after writing her deposit info? Things just don't add up. Even it it's a true story and she got a scare from some strangers, so what? There are crackheads everywhere, one being tall confirms that it was these killers specifically? I've actually been assaulted by a tweaking maniac while sitting in my car in a dodgy neighbourhood, I told the police and that was that. No need to make assumptions to his motive or connect him to a murderer based on very loose details. It doesn't even necessarily match their mo.
It just feels disrespectful to the victims and a little self agrandising to approach ewu with that.
I know. A car pulled up next to her. That is all that happened. They made such a big deal about it. Annoying.
I'm so glad I'm not alone. I'll bet a dollar she tells this story to anyone and everyone any chance she gets... She loves it.
Love your stories,thanks for sharing.
Well done presentation and interview. Great job to that woman and young lady at the time of the incident. Smart person.
Love this channel! Very well explained 🙌🙌🙌
You always have the best subject for your videos. Great work!
This is fascinating. Great documentary
Watching now, love your videos and narrators! I watch reruns to sleep 😴
These men killed my mother Terri Fourcher in 1996 and Shermantine confessed to it, but we have never found her body and had closure.
The term "gut feeling" is very real. People carry auras and sometimes you can pick them up. Don't ever feel like you're "overreacting" when it comes to your gut feeling. You'd feel a lot better feeling like you overreacted, and nothing could have happened over not feeling anything at all. If you get a sense of something is not right and need to lock your doors at night. Do it. Better safe than sorry.
Nice! Yes Keep them coming , always recommending this channel to others
Excellent work as always!!💯⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I love you guys ! Man you guys have helped me just know that. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
When I was 10 or 11 my brothers best friend's twin brother shot a 7/11 clerk in the face point blank. I've never been able to find any info on it though. Sherman, Texas late 1990's. He slept on the floor right next to me a few times when my brother let cash at our house
Just the title has me interested! “Speed Freaks” that sounds like the name of a horrific, scary horror movie!!!
Chevelle "Chevy" Wheeler is the baddest name I've heard in my life.
I really love it too!!!
People remember to listen to that inner intuition and always be aware of your surroundings. You can never know what is around the next corner.
Absolutely fantastic. Thank you
To piggyback on suggestions for safety, remember there is no specific time of day that these horrible things can happen.
One day driving to work, a man beeped to get my attention. He seemed to say there was a problem with the right front of my car. I pulled off the highway and he did too. He seemed like he was a Good Samaritan. I was young, I wasn’t in a secluded area and he looked harmless. I followed his suggestions because he thought the problem was with my breaks, until his next suggestion made me say this isn’t right. He said to put my hand on the break and my foot on the door. I have no idea what he had in mind, but I chalk this weird situation up to always follow your instincts.
The men didn't do anything?
Didn't approach her, speak to her, touch her, ask her anything? Some imagination
This channel is awesome. This is better than any TV channel. No adverts. Just great content.
Best narrator, hands down. Give him a raise.