6.1 Hemi. My thoughts.
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- A quick my thoughts video on the 6.1 l hymn it. This is obviously not the last word in commentary on this engine, but it is a fantastic powerplant. It helped to give rise to all of the later Hemi variants to come whether naturally aspirated or supercharged, they all owe a debt of gratitude to the 6.1 l hemi
Thanks for the shout out. I currently own a 2006 Chrysler SRT8. Originally intended for it to be a weekend warrior but I scrapped that idea and made it my daily driver. I’m the 2nd owner. First owner kept it tip top and so do I. Got it with 65k and now it’s sitting on 282k and still purrs like a kitten and growls like a lion when needed. I only replaced the air intake system and installed a full SLP exhaust system. I don’t abuse it so that it lasts but I needed the extra growl to hear all those ponies under the hood 💪
6.1L turned forged 426, apache heads, studded with ARP, 4.2L Kenne Bell, Kooks long tube, Hellcat valve covers, Holley Engine Management mated to a GM4L80e and out the back with a DDS Ford 9"... It been a long game of playing "Let's find the weak link"
Why would you hook a gm transmission to a hemi? The nag1 is a damn good transmission
@@Bill-bi7skthe nag1 requires the factory ECU to be in operation. When we switch the car to Holly engine management it was no longer possible to keep the nag1.
@@eastmedic no boost, pure NA with a manual. Twin Holley sniper efi on a twin quad intake.
The early cars were the best looking. And simple compared to the latest.
I had an original 08 Challenger with the 6.1, the 6.4 SRT8 and now a Hellcat for the last 5 years. My 6.1 had a cat back, filter kit and diablosport tune. As I recall, she was pretty peppy. That car really did “it” for me. This may sound funny to someone that hasn’t lived it, but I remember looking out the side view mirror and having flashbacks of my brother’s 71 roadrunner.
'07 Jeep SRT8 188k miles (Stockish) I'd say it's reliable
Thinking bout getting a srt jeep 6.1 as a daily do u suggest it is it reliable hard to maintain or nah ?
@@troyjones6758I’m in the same boat. How did you make out? Any update or advice
Back in 07 My nephew came over to my house with the 300srt8. I didn’t know anything about these gen3 hemi’s but his was stock minus a Diablo predator canned tune. Mannnnn he took me for a ride and I never felt low end torque pull like from a N/A motor. Two weeks later I went out and bought the Magnum 😂 it’s been history ever since.
I grew up looking at rusty hulks of '60's muscle here in Southern Ontario. I knew where no less than 5, 340 swingers were parked on my school bus ride. So 30 plus years later when the Challenger came back I was hooked. I've had my 2010 SRT six speed for 13 years and 75,000 miles. No mods and as I'm 60 now, my driving is much more casual. No mods, no desire, I just enjoy the better mileage, safety, economy, maintenance, comfort, etc. that comes with the modern experience. Still own my grandmothers '68 Mustang from Nevada, so I can still have that old car experience, but for long term ownership and driving, I'm not likely to mess with success. I absolutely appreciate what I have. Nice thoughts though from you on this motor, it is a beauty to look at, and that orange block was a nice touch too.
I had a 09 srt8 challenger 6 speed in hemi orange with catless longtubes, tune, mid mounted flowmaster original 40’s, Barton pistol grip, lowered on the stock Alcoa’s with pilot super sport 285s squared and it was just the perfect old school analog driving experience. It didn’t scream quite like the 392 but it was always a pleasure to row through the gears
Love my 6.1 to death. Currently running a fore dual pump with an 8psi blower, and man this thing moves out. It's close to running with stock Hellcats. Not quite there, but close.
Ive got the 09 Challenger SRT8 with the 6.1 with 13000 miles on it now. The car still looks like it was off the show room floor. I started building it with so far, staggered wheels, started blacking it out, kennebell 2.8LC Mammoth super charger, Tuned by Kennebell. Pulling 10 psi on the stock block. Dyno numbers 530whp 527 in torque. Later this year it's getting forged and camed.
6.1 Hemi love it even better with no mds an painting the hemi block orange was really cool from crysler
I've had my 6.1 SRT8 Magnum since 2008 and it's been a great car and it's all stock.
Thinking about putting a 4.0" crank in it and taking it to 420"s.
Thanks for another informative video 👍🏻 my 06 Jeep SRT8 has been rock solid daily driver for the past 13 years and a 145K miles
Thabks for showing some love to our forgotten powerhouse. I currently daily a 2010 300C SRT8 with the 6.1 and it always turns heads. Im so lucky i was able to land my hands on one.
I have a 2006 300c SRT8. 🤩 Love this shoutout to us 6.1L folks. I have a Diablosport 91 tune, Corsa Performance enclosed CAI. Mid-muffler delete (replaced with dynomax race bullets) and resonator delete. Sounds beautiful! Not to mention only 14.4K+ miles, excellent condition. I'm the 2nd owner (bought it with 7.3K in 2021 in August 😎.
What's a good long tube headers setup that is budget friendly? Maybe that isn't a thing ha! 😉
The best headers out there for these cars are kooks and stainless works. Kooks fitment is better. That said, none of them are budget friendly,
Lucky I got 140k on mine
@@Josephcarr11 🤭😏 at 16.1K miles now.
Fucking great cars! I swear thrse cars are highly underrated horsepower wise. .
Been waiting on this video since I purchased a 6.1 6 speed challenger! 💪🏼😎 dig it
Thank you for the 6.1 shoutout! I love my 2009 Charger SRT8 just dropped it off this week to get srt max cam kit, Kooks long tube headers and full borla exhaust. Would you mind if I shared this on my channel I’m a representative of the 2006-2010 mopar community 👌🏼💯
Of course you can share!
I just added the throttle timer to mine. On a crisp fall day my 09 SRT8 can scare me a little. I love that car. I get kudos on it all the time. Looks and feels more classic than many after it I think. I have not driven what came after which I think helps with my appreciation of my own rig. IF I got more I'd want more.
I've got an 09 Jeep SRT8 (6.1L), I did a lot of suspension upgrades (control arms, coilovers, sway bars, panhard bar, etc.), as far as go fast upgrades I did ceramic coated Kooks long tube headers, 3200 stall torque converter, ceramic coated PnP intake manifold, bwoody CIA, 25% underdrive pulley, kooks high flow CAT's, custom tune, Diablo tuner tool, and some race gas at the track. I really like the look and handling of the NT05 tires but am currently on AZ850's due to the pricing. I used to winter it but for the past 5 years it mostly sits in the garage waiting for a drag strip day.
Runs 12.3's @ 110 MPH in the 1/4 Mile, does 0-62 MPH in the mid 3 seconds during the winter and low 4's during the summers (the DA makes a huge difference as well as the wheels & tires setup).
I plan to do the heads and CAM some day as I did the TQ converter already.
Only failures and issues so far: Speed sensor on the valve body went bad (changed out the connector plate), resistor for the fan went bad caused some higher temps due to the lack of a high speed fan mode (replaced the resistor), parasitic draw never found (I just disconnect the negative when parking), blend door broken no heat or AC for the drivers side (unresloved fairly new issue).
Note: I've done 100's of passes at my local drag strips without any breakdowns so I'm more than happy with the reliability so far.
Nice I’ve got an 09 aswell and I love this thing, my vent door went out aswell but I got it fixed it wasn’t cheap 😅
I wish they bring back a modern version of the 6.1l and put it in a Cuda with the 8 speed!!!
👍👍👍👍👍 still have mine and it runs vary well. And from time to time it still scares me.
I have a 2010 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 6.1 Litter, with a 6 speed manual transmission, full 4 inch Magnaflow exhaust, K@N intake. It is all I have done to it, and first gear is not needed. When I launch and hit third, it wants to turn around and go back to start over again!. This car is crazy. I have raced Vets, twin turbo 3.8 litter Genise with all the bolt on the guy said, and it just wants more. I Love it! I got it used, with 32000 miles, for $27,000.00 from Georgia. It is detonator yellow, with upgrades but not sure what inside the motor. It does say Hurst Edition on it, and you can see under the hood to the left of the motor over the valve cover that it had a super cooler and tubing that ran back up to front of intake at one time. Last owner removed that! Wish he didn't, if in fact that is what that discoloration was caused by. Wish I could post picks.
I plan on just throwing a SRT MAX cam and swaping the newer interior hopefully down the line. Got a spare 6.1 hemi in the garage ready for a swap
i have a soft spot for station wagons and saw 2006 SRT Magnum with the 6.1 that was really clean with relatively low miles. Really liked the car, but the price was more than I could justify for that. Magnums didn't come with LSD diffs so that is kind of a bummer, but super cool in all other aspects. And yeah, the engine looks fantastic under the hood. i think with the prices people are looking more at the older cars and the 5.7 cars as alternates. Gotta say a E-forced 5.7 would be fun.
Thanks to everyone that loves the 6.1. It made a rebuilt 5.7 very affordable. Now I just have to fix it out of limp mode.
Just asked you about this short while ago. Thanks for the support!!!
Like your videos that you put out in March of 2022 I purchased a 2006 Dodge Charger SRT8 6.1 8,400 Mi on it in pristine condition because back in the day when they came out I love the look of this vehicle it was so down to earth Mopar that I said I would get one one of these days at that time the dealers had them marked up 10 grand above sticker $52,000 and some change I purchased this one for half that and it is my daily driver it has SLP 3 in exhaust all the way back plus it has the Airaid Ram Air cold air intake running 275 40 20s squared the car is a beast. Wanted to go back in years to the very first model because there's not too many of them driving around now days production was 4,719 with three colors silver black and torrent red mine is torrent red which I think is the rarest color. Needed a four-door and this is the ultimate to me in four doors to drive.:) as of this posting it has 10,567 miles on her now. PS I was able to get a powertrain warranty for it for 48 months or for 48,000 Mi it's like driving a new car with peace of mind.
Great thank you. If I make move on it I will I will let you know it’s been taking to dealer only so it should be but I will take a look
Guys with first generation 5.7 L engines used to trip over themselves to get parts off of 6.1 SRT engines to upgrade, I know I was one of them.
It really surprised me how fast the community forgot about the 6.1. These were the block to have if you wanted a 426 stroker. 5.7 cylinder walls get to thin and are best around 6.4 when built.
I took a 6.1 out of a totaled jeep and put it in my 70’ Dart mild cam Hughes stall converter and 727 manual valve body using the Holley terminator ati pulley no a/c no power steering and 3.73 gears
Thanks!
Thank you very much! I appreciate the support!
Best car i ever owned
Awsome thanks
Great info B thanks 💪😎
You can do all the same with a BGE block, 4.050 crank and rods to 426, twin sniper quads and a manual and have a modern and accurate looking 426.
You provided great information,thanks.
How do i solve idle shut-offs in the chrysler 6.1 2005? There's no codes thrown...
Good info, thanks!
Sorry, I didn’t think I said what the 61 was in the dark red cherry jeep 6.1
Thanks! My srt8 charger has a 426 stroker, 13:1 compression,American Racing headers,Mahle pistons, Magnaflow catback, bbk throttle body, Arrington fuel pump, 392 injectors,1000hp dds carbon fiber driveshaft, 1400hp dds axles, racestar drag rims, Hoosier slicks, huge Crower cam. I not done modding it yet. Check it out it's on my channel. I probably would be done by now but I keep modding my Trackhawk lol by the way, what do you think I should add?
Thank you very much!! It looks like you've done everything you could do to that at car. I'll have to check out the channel and subscribe. Which intake manifold are you running?
@@bmasontv it's still stock but I want to do something crazy like a bug catcher and an 8 71 blower sticking out of the hood. Would that fit?
@@yaaramiryaagr4411 www.alkydigger.net/product/Hemi-Gen3-2222.html
Nice!!!!! You're the man thanks alot!!!!
@@yaaramiryaagr4411 of course!! I'll look forward to seeing your channel!!
Hey b mason. As much as I love the engines, I am curious about visual mods, especially engine dress up. A vid on the coolest visual mods would be cool. If I am fortunate enough to own a hemi challenger one day, I’d try to do a patriotic engine bay concept.
There are services who can dip any part of your engine's plastics to give it a personalized touch. Honestly, I havent messed with it in some time but I think it is very cool when I see it.
Hi b mason. What’s your thoughts on just a basic Daily Performance tune in the 6.1. From maybe a Dyno shop. Or just stock tune because there is nothing left on the table.
I have a 6.1 with a rod knock. So the heads might be good. I haven't taken it apart yet. But I do have a 5.7 in my Jeep and I dropped a valve seat in it once and the guy before me did too. I was wondering if I could fit the 6.1 heads and intake on the 5.7 and should I get a cam for it while I'm in there? Do you know what cam I could use to upgrade it? Or replace it with a stock cam and be fine?
Great stuff B, I am thinking of throwing a Cam and Headers on my 6.1 Manual, currently leaning toward the ST-3A by Arrington if I can get my hand on one, 225 Intake 234 Exhaust, 114 LSA, and a tick over 0.590 lifts, Thoughts on it? IIRC Jerry Mason had it in his before he did the 426 stroker
That Cam would be a pretty nice fit for the 6.1 in a manual. Those Specs are very similar to a Cam that I would recommend for A392. Don't forget Springs and push rods.
@@bmasontv Of course, sounds like a plan 👍💪
@@bmasontv definitely upgrade the valve springs, I think they are the achilles heel on the 6.1 and pron to breaking
Yo mason,I'm thinking of running 3.73 gears in my magnum srt with a few mods like cam long tubes n some porting n polishing,what are ur thoughts on that
Sounds like it'll be a fun car. Porting the heads won't really yield a whole lot, the 61 heads already flow some pretty decent numbers. A small cam long tubes Cat-Back and a solid tune with those gears will make you fall in love with that car all over again
Mine is stock with 35 thousand original miles in a black 2010 srt8 300
Would you guys trust a 6.1 with 100k miles? What would you guys say is a reasonable price to pay for one? (08'-10' Challenger)
Nowhere near enough information to answer that question. I've seen cars with 25 to 30000 miles that were complete garbage, they had never had oil changes or routine maintenance and were completely dogged out. On the other hand, There are vehicles like my work truck 172,000 miles and runs like brand new because it has Been serviced regularly.
@B Mason Understandable. Just from a raw reliability standpoint. I'm not very familiar with the 6.1 but from basic research I'm hearing good things about it. Been searching for 1 in a Challenger for about a year now.
@@Ace-44 In general, they are very reliable
Yo mason,got another question for you.i have an 06 6.1,would 6.4 heads fit and if so should I???
I wouldn't bother with it. Head flow is more with the eagle heads but not really worth the swap. Especially if you're using an untouched stock intake manifold. For stroker applications utilizing the 6.1 L for guys that were putting a cam in the car and wanted to stretch the power out a little bit further in the RPM range those heads would be sent off to have the deck trued and CNC ported with a valve job
Yo mason,got a couple questions for you.first off I have an 06 magnum srt8 with 3.06 gearing in the rear.are they lsd rears and second. My oil level is perfect however the digital oil pressure guage fluctuates all over the place,should I be concerned
All.SRTs have limited slip rears. As for the gauge, if it is the stock gauge in the readout, it should be steady. Around 39 psi at idle and 50+ at 3000 rpm cruise. If it bumps around alot it could be the sensor. If it is an aftermarket gauge it could be the gauge itself.
I learn the 5.7 is better can make the power of a 6.1 and 6.4 without the price tag of the 6.1 6.4 fairly easy
Helio my friend i have a 2010 grand cherokee wk1 SRT8 and just got a bad lifter and cam lobe so my only choice is swapping a new cam / lifters but instead of OEM i'm considering get the aftermarket route to see if i can squeeze a bit more of both torque & power out of that engine so please if you don't mind tell me based on your experience what's my best choice, thanks in advance
Camshafts are on a spectrum, and tuning ability is for that matter. It all depends on how aggressive you want your idle to be. And what type of drivability you are willing to forego and Lou of performance. Get with your tuner and find out which cams they prefer.
Hey B I have the nag 1 5.7 that you help me build. Recently I’ve been studying figuring out what truck I want to get to run into a neighbor in the garage at lunchtime today. This gentleman has the old Jeep SRT 86.1 with 44,000 miles. I asked him because I will I look at the car every day. Are you interested in selling it? He said he might be how much is that car worth? And should I pick it up? It’s a great engine and reliable, right
Yes, as long as it has been maintained
Any suggestions on things to swap out to make them more reliable for daily driving ? I usually here thermostat & lifter swaps but is it necessary if u don’t beat on your car ?
None of that is necessary. As long as you're changing the oil and keeping up with other fluid swaps, you're in good shape
my 6.1 hemi 2008 challenger srt8 only hjas 5230 miles yet it has a ticking sounds mason anything i can do to get rid of that sound?? bought just 8 months ago
Possible solutions;
1: Oil and filter change (mobile 1). 2: Check for broken manifold bolts.
3: Replace lifters.
How much cfm does the 6.1 flow compared to an eagle head 5.7 ?!
Based on what I've seen in terms of power numbers And power curves They seem to be practically identical.the 6.1 may have an advantage at high rpm, bit it isn't a huge difference
Is tuning the stock 6.1 worth it. Or is the stock tune all it’s got with out intake and exhaust work.
Throttle adjustments and optomised shift scheduling make it worth it to me, Dont do it for power. There is some... Just not a lot.
Ok thank you. I got a 6 speed. What’s the best way to optimize the throttle. Would that be the banks monster peddle. Thx
@@bretmichaux219 any of the products that are out there will work just fine. They all do the same thing, it's just whichever interface you prefer the most
Ok. Thank. Sir. I’ll go with the banks peddler monster then. Thank you fur all your sharing all knowledge on the 6.1.
But that 425 hp is a NET rating not the GROSS rating of the 1960's 426.
What rpm are they in @ 80 mph with the 6 speed?
Around 2,000
Let’s build one
I'd throw those 20 in rims away and replace them with some 18in demon rims.
Am I the only one to notice that the 6.1 and the 6.2 has the same bore and stroke?
Same stroke ( also same as the 5.7) at 3.58" but a larger bore. 6.2 is 4.09" vs 4.055" for the 6.1
@@bmasontv I wonder if they used the 6.1 for the basis for the 6.2 Hellcat. If they did, then the 6.1 (for normal aspirated) would be preferable to the 6.4 which has a hp limit that the 6.2 doesn't have. Funny, the stroke is the same on the 360LA engine.