Does Hell Exist? | Hope@Night
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Dr. Mark Karris and Dr. Felix Cortez delve into the controversial concept of eternal conscious torment and its presence in the Bible. Explore the debate surrounding the existence of an everlasting, agonizing hell in this insightful discussion by religious trauma specialist and theologian
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00:00 - 01:10 - Opening
01:11 - 18:10 - Dr. Mark Karris: Healing Religious Trauma
18:18 - 39:05 - Dr. Felix Cortez Concept of Eternal burning hell
39:16 - 52:59 - Audience Q&A
53:00 - 54:08 - Ending - Věda a technologie
This was so beautiful thank you 🙏🏽 one of my fav topics as it brought me to truth. Even as a child it never made sense to me that people were currently burning in hell or people were watching us from heaven and could still live happily
Nobody is 'watching you from heaven', what are you, 5 years old? Heaven is another dimension, so is Hell. Both are eternal.
It makes perfect sense, you just don't like it.
@@BeLikeMike7Bible verses or it didn’t happen
@@YeseniaElizabeth_ Revelation 14:11 'And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast...'
Easiest one. Your claim and the claim of that lying, effeminate clown in the video is that there are verses that completely contradict that Revelation verse. Show me that, please.
@@BeLikeMike7is Sodom and Gomorrah still burning for ever and ever? It’s saying that the result will last forever
@@BeLikeMike7also one shouldn’t just read one Bible verse and make judgment on it. I would advise reading about the state of the dead and hell, every verse on those subjects and then with the help of the Holy Spirit find truth
Even the Lord Jesus himself spoke about hellfire being external, dont joke about it man.
Some worry lost ppl wont repent unless their scared to death? The 4 men in the book of Daniel Fiery Furnace help me understand the Lake & Fire🔥🔥3 mortals + One & Only Immortal Jesus was there. Meanwhile the idol worshippers perished. Our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12.29 God is Love 1 John 4.8 Only commandment keepers are shielded in His firey goodness, love & mercy. Sinners feel His holiness & glory as a Sun, a consuming fire🌄🌤Psalm 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun & shield. The LORD gives grace & glory. No good will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
God did not make Hell for us, He made it for 1/3 of His angels, and we put ourselves there, He doesn’t. God is good and holy, He cannot have sin in His heavenly realm and I don’t blame Him defile His Kingdom.
God is both love and justice. Heaven and he'll are real! Jesus spoke of these!
Hi. I happened to see your comment, and I hope you don't mind my reply directly to you about it. But, though I haven't seen either Heaven or Hell and thus can't guarantee someone that they are real or what they are (might be) like, I can say that you are correct that Jesus spoke of these. There are also several verses in the Bible, some directly from Jesus (Mark 9:43, "...cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched."; Matthew 25:26, "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels.", and Matthew 25: 46, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into eternal life."), as you noted in your post, that confirm (at least for those who believe the Bible) an eternal heaven AND hell. And, contrary to what both guests are trying hard to get viewers to accept, the passages I noted and some others are not mere hyperbole or metaphor. ... This sounds rather rude, but although both of these guests seem like nice, caring guys, for one to have a D.Min. and the other to have a PhD in Theology and teach at Andrews University (a Seventh-Day University in Michigan), they'd have to be outright stupid or lying to claim what they both are about punishment not being eternal and/or there not being an actual hell, or at least not an eternal hell. Apparently, though the format is professional, and I like the overall "apperance" of this show and the "concept", it is Seventh-Day Adventist based. I think Seventh-Day Adventists are good, kind, hardworking, caring, loving people, and being vegetarian for 25 years (and actually about 90% vegan for the past six years) because of animal rights and the environment, I love their very healthy lifestyle and unpretentiousness. However, the show wasn't about lifestyle, it was supposedly addressing the eschatological question of whether hell is real and eternal. Both guests, with the host's clear agreement and complete avoidance of presenting a counterargument or asking tough questions, cherry pick only the verses that meet what THEY believe--or would at least hope or like to believe--about the nature of the Christian afterlife. However good scholars and learned people are both honest and transparent in their studies and in what they share with others and argue for. ... And, though I'm sorry for the tragedy of the cancer death of the professor's six-month-old child, I don't believe he is correct when he says that Jesus died on the cross, in part, as a sacrifice for those like his son who weren't developed enough mentally to make a conscious choice and accept Christ. Personally, I think it's complete nonsense to think that such a child, or a cognitively impaired adult would NEED a sacrifice to get into heaven. Certainly if there were a "god/God" who would send someone in that circumstance to hell, then that God is the antithesis of good, rational, and loving. ... Finally, the guest's and host's own arguments against a real hell and eternal, tangible punishment--based on their claim that that would contradict the concept of a loving God--can easily be turned against them because it could just as easily be argued, Why would a truly loving God simply destroy people (body and soul) for their punishment?...and especially why would a loving God destroy truly good people who just failed to either accept Him OR who maybe never heard of Him during life (e.g., remote islanders, Muslims in certain Middle Eastern areas, etc.). The guests' and host's arguments simply fall apart with only minor questioning and slightly decent reasoning. ... This show, as I noted, seems to be the result of Seventh-Day Adventist theology...though I don't see it noted. And, I'm fine with that as long as it's explicitly stated AND as long as no one lies...as occurred when the professor claimed it doesn't say in Revelation that punishment is eternal (as my reference above proves it DOES). ... Also, I am curious as to the "nature" of this show. I just saw the first episode last night and actually enjoyed it and left them a comment of praise. But, though these were supposedly--based on the posting dates on CZcams--filmed weeks (if not months--I think four months actually) apart, the audience members seem identical or nearly identical. And, they can't claim that they merely--as happens with many shows--filmed more than one episode in the same day, because the positions of the audience members changed between the two espisodes I've seen, along with the clothing and appearance of the members. (e.g., the older man on the front row with the girl of approximately 25. They are on the front row for both episodes, though other audience members changed places, and they are dressed differently...and, in fact, the man is cleanshaven in one episode but has several days growth of beard in another. So, did they ask for participation from a local Seventh-Day Adventist congregation, or what??
The theology that is based on the truth of the word of God is very deep, as it reflects the unlimited wisdom and omniscience of God. Unfortunately, men not able to understand and comprehend properly limit the truth into the boxes of their own limited understanding thus distortiing the truth. Blessed by this discussion. However, I would have loved it if the biblical understanding of Hell, destruction and lake of fire in a systematic way har been given by the experts.
Don't forget that the first in heaven was the criminal on the cross with Christ !!how can God justify josef mengele is purgatory not perfect justice for certain time to experience the works of his heart and hands ,he was aware of his actions therefore all sin is directed to god !
@@richarddouglas8015the criminal on the cross repented, mengele, who knows just God
The 4 men in Daniel Fiery Furnace help me understand the Lake & Fire🔥🔥3 mortals + One & Only Immortal Jesus was there. Meanwhile the idol worshippers perished. Our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12.29 God is Love 1 John 4.8 Only commandment keepers are shielded in His firey goodness, love & mercy. Sinners feel His holiness & glory as a Sun, a consuming fire🌄🌤Psalm 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun & shield. The LORD gives grace & glory. No good will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
Hell is not psychological, do not be deceived
Mr. What happens to people who break government laws. Do they not end up in prison accompanied with various punishments . The same applies to God's government. There is spiritual heaven and spiritual prison for wrong doers which is hell with various dorment including fire.
That sounds like Dante Alighieri’s version of “hell” which were influenced by the Romans
@@YeseniaElizabeth_ I've made a complete, independent post about this, if you'd like to know more and actual Biblical references to prove that what the guests said in this episode were untrue and not Biblically supported. Take care. And...btw...Dante wrote centuries after the compilation of the Bible.
This IS what the Bible says. YOU are right, and I've made a longer, independent post explaining this, including some references that prove the guests' wrong.
Amazing conversation... I got to know more about eternal fire.
Though I haven't seen either Heaven or Hell and thus can't guarantee someone that they are real or what they are (might be) like, I can say that you are correct that Jesus spoke of these. There are also several verses in the Bible, some directly from Jesus (Mark 9:43, "...cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched."; Matthew 25:26, "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels.", and Matthew 25: 46, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into eternal life."), as you noted in your post, that confirm (at least for those who believe the Bible) an eternal heaven AND hell. And, contrary to what both guests are trying hard to get viewers to accept, the passages I noted and some others are not mere hyperbole or metaphor. ...
This sounds rather rude, but although both of these guests seem like nice, caring guys, for one to have a D.Min. and the other to have a PhD in Theology and teach at Andrews University (a Seventh-Day University in Michigan), they'd have to be outright stupid or lying to claim what they both are about punishment not being eternal and/or there not being an actual hell, or at least not an eternal hell. Apparently, though the format is professional, and I like the overall "apperance" of this show and the "concept", it is Seventh-Day Adventist based. I think Seventh-Day Adventists are good, kind, hardworking, caring, loving people, and being vegetarian for 25 years (and actually about 90% vegan for the past six years) because of animal rights and the environment, I love their very healthy lifestyle and unpretentiousness. However, the show wasn't about lifestyle, it was supposedly addressing the eschatological question of whether hell is real and eternal. Both guests, with the host's clear agreement and complete avoidance of presenting a counterargument or asking tough questions, cherry pick only the verses that meet what THEY believe--or would at least hope or like to believe--about the nature of the Christian afterlife. However good scholars and learned people are both honest and transparent in their studies and in what they share with others and argue for. ...
And, though I'm sorry for the tragedy of the cancer death of the professor's six-month-old child, I don't believe he is correct when he says that Jesus died on the cross, in part, as a sacrifice for those like his son who weren't developed enough mentally to make a conscious choice and accept Christ. Personally, I think it's complete nonsense to think that such a child, or a cognitively impaired adult would NEED a sacrifice to get into heaven. Certainly if there were a "god/God" who would send someone in that circumstance to hell, then that God is the antithesis of good, rational, and loving and would certainly NOT be a God that I would follow. ...
Finally, the guest's and host's own arguments against a real hell and eternal, tangible punishment--based on their claim that that would contradict the concept of a loving God--can easily be turned against them because it could just as easily be argued, Why would a truly loving God simply destroy people (body and soul) for their punishment?...and especially why would a loving God destroy truly good people who just failed to either accept Him OR who maybe never heard of Him during life (e.g., remote islanders, Muslims in certain Middle Eastern areas, etc.). The guests' and host's arguments simply fall apart with only minor questioning and slightly decent reasoning. ... This show, as I noted, seems to be the result of Seventh-Day Adventist theology...though I don't see it noted. And, I'm fine with that as long as it's explicitly stated AND as long as no one lies...as occurred when the professor claimed it doesn't say in Revelation that punishment is eternal (as my reference above proves it DOES). ... Also, I am curious as to the "nature" of this show. I just saw the first episode last night and actually enjoyed it and left them a comment of praise. But, though these were supposedly--based on the posting dates on CZcams--filmed weeks (if not months--I think four months actually) apart, the audience members seem identical or nearly identical. And, they can't claim that they merely--as happens with many shows--filmed more than one episode in the same day, because the positions of the audience members changed between the two espisodes I've seen, along with the clothing and appearance of the members. (e.g., the older man on the front row with the girl of approximately 25. They are on the front row for both episodes, though other audience members changed places, and they are dressed differently...and, in fact, the man is cleanshaven in one episode but has several days growth of beard in another. So, did they ask for participation from a local Seventh-Day Adventist congregation, or what??
And, since in my post, I criticized the host and guests for not admitting to what seems clearly one of Seventh-Day Adventist theology (which has as one of its hallmarks, the belief in an annihilationist soteriology--i.e., no eternal hell, but where God "merely" destroys the body and souls of those who don't make it to heaven), I'm happy to give my general background. ... Christened Episcopal, very sporadically attended Baptist and Presbyterian churches growing up, attended an elite Christian-based high school, was agnostic for decades, had a very real, tangible experience in response to a prayer/wish, still stayed agnostic for another roughly 18 years, then couldn't deny it, accepted God and Christ, got baptized in a small, fundamentalist Baptist church, became part of the lay pastorate, earned for my own enjoyment and knowledge an MA in ministry that added to several other master's in diverse areas of healthcare, business, and psychology, and a doctorate in education, left the church after four years because I felt they had become a bit negative and judgmental, investigated RCIA and though I didn't/don't agree with everything they believe and do, became Catholic. Philosophically though, I'm more of a non-denominational who feels most comfortable with the Catholic church, but I am not fundamentalist and know of some apparent conflicts in the Bible and believe that much is literal and some is metaphorical/parable...but then, that does leave open the door to, "Where do you draw the line and decide which is which." Ultimately, I think the key thing for all is to try your best throughout life to constantly improve as a person, to be a good person (charity, kindness, forgiveness, not doing or saying bad things, etc.), to try to leave as little a footprint on God's planet as possible and to try to actually improve it, and to never harm or use animals (or any non-human creatures) in any way.
My father is Christian but he didn't go church i went church upto age 10, after my father death i went Pentecost church at 23age and baptism, but I didn't know about the bible commandments and law.
I have 2elder sisters their marriage was late in our system we marry from elder to young in order,
I met one guy but i knew he is not my future partner but we loved he always spoked bad god warning (pastor) many many years to stop sin but i didn't obey, after 5years he married one girl,that time pastor warned seriously but i didn't obey, after his marriage broken commandments we did sexual sins(5months) and casually took bread and wine after sins, his wife affected coz of me
1.I felt god's grace, mercy closed in my life.
2.Marriage not happened,Now health condition affected,
3.mild arthritis disease, sickness, fingers damaged and bent. Can't do anything without others help.
I destroyed my life.
I disobeyed uncountable years for god's voice (god speaking with pastor & pastor warning in pulpit ) afterthat broken commandments.
Can god forgive my disobedienced and sexual sins afterthat?
Read Roman from 5th chp to end
God loves you so much that he gave his only son through his death we are forgiven ,see you stopp sinning then god will forgive
@@cynthiamariafernandes3220 All happened before 5years , disease came before 6months..
My fingers are bent so im fearing bcoz of this unable to work/job
in early stage god gave numbers 5:21in dream but I went back with him.. i disobeyed god's voice, but one situation he marry other girl but always speak with me, after his marriage he told i love you only so i went back.. but now he lived happily with his wife and baby,. My life only affected.
God warning me only but I didn't tell to him, same time god didn't gave partner for me that's why I went back..
I did big sin sister that's why my fingers also damaged. How can i stand infront of others?
@@UserId-ir4gqDear sister... no matter how much dark is your sin..Our Loving Lord Jesus loves you and will forgive you. He came to the earth for sinners like us. No men on earth is sinless...everybody is sinner...there is no big or small sin in the eyes of God..every sin is same for Him. God is still waiting for u...He is still calling u. Listen to Him now sister. Repent yourself and ask for His forgiveness. Accept Him for your Lord and Saviour. Read Bible everyday and follow faithfully what is written on the Bible. Pray everyday and ask the Holy Spirit to dwelt in your heart to guide you in your spiritual life. Remember one thing dear sister...please forgive all those who hurt you and dont live in your past anymore. Focus only on Jesus and give your soul,heart and mind only to Him.
If heaven is eternal, then hell is.
Hell for eternity how? for What purpose?
@@maryachuti4997for the purpose of God. He is no pansy
Romans 6:23 (The wages of sin is DEATH but the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD.) IF eternal life is a gift from God given to those in christ Jesus OUR LORD. How do the wicked live ETERNALLY being tormented in this place called hell.... can you answer that?we've all been wrongly indoctrinated sir. Time to truly understand the word of God vs the doctrines of men!
For what purpose will hell be eternal for? But heaven is eternal because the saints will be there in eternity.
Their activities similar to satan , these people entered heaven means they make a heaven unholy, dirty and disobeyed like lucifer. After punishment if they entered means some fight with their enemies in heaven also(people in jail came after fight with enemies),Thats why god didn't like to see their face and didn't like to enter heaven.
I don't have a sure answer for you, except that the Bible tells us it will be. And, in a much longer post, I provide references to prove what I'm saying and to discredit the claims of both guests.
Hell is not eternal. It’s gonna be hell when God destroys sinners and Satan, but it will not be forever. The Bible also says in Jude 1:7 that Sodom and Gomorra was destroyed by eternal fire, although there’s no city continuously burning now. It means that this fire consumes for the eternity. God is not a this type of God that has pleasure watching anyone suffer forever . God is Love.
Hell might be entirely scientifically rational if the Many Worlds Theory is fact and you are tortuously and chronically ill. Dracula: "There are far worse things awaiting man than death"?
Read Christian History, the Old Testament and the context in which "hell" was used by Jesus.. And read the Bible thoroughly, done miss out on passages that give you understanding, especially 1Corinthians :15 emphasis on Verses 24 -28.
You when you defame the holy character of God, who is also Loving and merciful and compare Him to our human nature, are doing a great dis-service to the Almighty.
You who say that hell fire, burning forever is advocated by God are doing a great mistake.
God's mercy never ends, He will to the end, give you the choice to end your own life forever by destroying you.
Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
And you and the guests call THAT type of God, loving?!...who would destroy you forever just because you chose not to believe in him, although you were always a good person?! Also, I think it is you who needs to quit cherry picking passages, as the guests did, and read the NT again, particularly Matthew 25, Mark, and Revelation, or read my longer, independent post which discredits the poorly supported and strikingly slanted "supporting" references of the guests and shows a more complete picture. Plus, the theology professor is either an idiot or outright liar to have stated that Revelation doesn't mention punishment being eternal. It CLEARLY states this, as referenced specifically (chapter and verse) in my longer post.
God is the so😂urce of immortality therefore those who reject this gift in Christ will not inherit the kingdom of God
There is reality and then there is your belief. If you are a Christian (a very loose definition these days) your truth is the Word of God. It is not what you feel make what is real. If the Word says there is Wrath to come and you comfort them to destruction you are a false prophet .
There is indeed wrath to come but it isn’t an eternal hell, God is still loving and just
@@YeseniaElizabeth_ You must be Seventh-Day Adventist, given your thoughts about soteriology and eschatology.
I can't prove anything spiritual, of course--and I don't know anyone who can, no matter how much they claim to have the conviction of the Holy Spirit and a "burning in the bosom", BUT based on scripture, I agree with you, and what bothers me about these claims against a physical hell and eternal punishment--as opposed to the SDA-based claims of permanent destruction of people who don't make it into heaven--is that they are presenting half-truths and picking only verses that support their sides and completely ignoring or misrepresenting equally contradictory verses that mention an actual hell and eternal punishment. These people are deluding themselves and deliberately misleading others. I give a longer post elsewhere with more criticism and actual Biblical references. Take care.
Folks you are misleading people plainley says if our names not written in book of life and word of God the holy bible says their will be a eternal burning hell
This is very confusing. Jesus mentioned about hell more than heaven. Yes God is love but also He is holy, pure, righteous and full of justice.
If spanking was allowed to discipline children they would be such good teenagers but that's not the case.
This discussion has made me even more confused than ever.
We have to be care what we listen to.
I have a friend is on the same wavelength. We want murderers to face justice. Found out in Bible that the fire from heaven is punishment or side effects of holding to sin? Maybe some believe souls are immortal, cos it goes back to God at death.Ecclesiastes 12.7 The spirit part. They look at Genesis, God breathed into man and he became a living soul.🐍
The serpent tricked Eve when he said Nah, no worries mate. Its okay to ignore God's instructions, just this one time, you can sin, and wont suffer side effects! 🤔Look you're not dead yet, see, I was right! God's not telling you truth is He? He doesn't want whats best for you after all, making you miss out this Big Secrets.
Why you're still looking beautiful? go give some to your husband 🐍That will seal the deal! go eat of the Tree of life so then it will make you immortal sinners heheheh!
Fortunately, the Lord Jesus moved them outside the Eden garden to a new home to stop that evil plot in its tracks. DUST or clay + spirit = soul. In the Bible dictionary, spirit basically means air, wind, breath or OXYGEN. We're flatlined without O2. Dust to dust. Ashes to ashes.
The 4 men in Daniel Fiery Furnace help me understand the Lake & Fire🔥🔥3 mortals + One & Only Immortal Jesus was there. Meanwhile the idol worshippers perished.
Our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12.29
God is Love 1 John 4.8
Only commandment keepers are shielded in His firey goodness, love & mercy. Sinners feel His holiness & glory as a Sun, a consuming fire🌄🌤Psalm 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun & shield. The LORD gives grace & glory. No good will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
God does speak of hell more but it isn’t a place or for eternity. If you are confused I suggest studying this topic in the Bible more with the Holy Spirit
@@YeseniaElizabeth_ Well, I'd recommend leaving the Spirit aside and just being truly literate and carefully reading EVERYTHING without trying to get scripture to fit one's preconceptions or wishes.
I saw your comment, having just discovered this channel last night and watched just one other episode, and I felt so bad that you are confused that I felt compelled to respond. I made a much longer, independent post about this issue in the comments section here. While the host and guests, and many posters on here, seem like good God-fearing Christians, and I think likely mean well, anyone who reads the Bible carefully can NOT come away with the idea that hell is not real and that punishment is not eternal. CHRIST even confirms the permanence of these things in his own words. Don't feel bad though. I have an MA in ministry, and many things confuse me too, and people that think that the Bible doesn't contradict itself in parts or think that the Bible is completely clear, obviously haven't read the Bible carefully and/or don't understand it well. And, can I--or anyone else--PROVE any of what's in the Bible or their feelings/thoughts about it--no matter HOW much they CLAIM the Holy Spirit told them or that they have the hackneyed "burning in their bosom" for proof--NO, no one can. Period. All we can do is read carefully and try to use additional, accepted scholarly references to put things in context to try to best understand it and come to our own conclusions--while, I do agree, listening to one's heart and asking for spiritual guidance...or even proof. All that said...again...the guests, host, and many of these posters who argue for a metaphorical hell and non-eternal judgment have NOT carefully read the Bible or are simply being dishonest. Plus, it's disingenuous to claim your supporting verses of scripture prove your point while the contradictory verses that hurt or disprove your point are merely metaphorical. THAT is crap logic, AND one always has to be wary of Jesus' teachings in scripture about wolves in sheep's clothing and of Satan the father of lies. ... Forgive me if I've overstepped, but I felt for you in your confusion...and thus I posted this...and have decided just to make it easy for you to find and am copying my longer, independent post here for you to read, complete with references. (I can somewhat excuse lay posters here from not knowing what's in all scripture and in honestly misstating things, but it's inexcusable for one guest with a DMin and the other with a PhD in theology and teaching at a Seventh-Day Adventist University to either be so woefully ignorant or scripture, or else...and sadly, more likely...to so deliberately lie to lesser educated viewers who don't often have the scriptural knowledge to discredit their false and misleading claims. ............... So, below is my longer post. ..............
though I haven't seen either Heaven or Hell and thus can't guarantee someone that they are real or what they are (might be) like, I can say that you are correct that Jesus spoke of these. There are also several verses in the Bible, some directly from Jesus (Mark 9:43, "...cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched."; Matthew 25:26, "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels.", and Matthew 25: 46, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into eternal life."), as you noted in your post, that confirm (at least for those who believe the Bible) an eternal heaven AND hell. And, contrary to what both guests are trying hard to get viewers to accept, the passages I noted and some others are not mere hyperbole or metaphor. ... This sounds rather rude, but although both of these guests seem like nice, caring guys, for one to have a D.Min. and the other to have a PhD in Theology and teach at Andrews University (a Seventh-Day University in Michigan), they'd have to be outright stupid or lying to claim what they both are about punishment not being eternal and/or there not being an actual hell, or at least not an eternal hell. Apparently, though the format is professional, and I like the overall "apperance" of this show and the "concept", it is Seventh-Day Adventist based. I think Seventh-Day Adventists are good, kind, hardworking, caring, loving people, and being vegetarian for 25 years (and actually about 90% vegan for the past six years) because of animal rights and the environment, I love their very healthy lifestyle and unpretentiousness. However, the show wasn't about lifestyle, it was supposedly addressing the eschatological question of whether hell is real and eternal. Both guests, with the host's clear agreement and complete avoidance of presenting a counterargument or asking tough questions, cherry pick only the verses that meet what THEY believe--or would at least hope or like to believe--about the nature of the Christian afterlife. However good scholars and learned people are both honest and transparent in their studies and in what they share with others and argue for. ... And, though I'm sorry for the tragedy of the cancer death of the professor's six-month-old child, I don't believe he is correct when he says that Jesus died on the cross, in part, as a sacrifice for those like his son who weren't developed enough mentally to make a conscious choice and accept Christ. Personally, I think it's complete nonsense to think that such a child, or a cognitively impaired adult would NEED a sacrifice to get into heaven. Certainly if there were a "god/God" who would send someone in that circumstance to hell, then that God is the antithesis of good, rational, and loving. ... Finally, the guest's and host's own arguments against a real hell and eternal, tangible punishment--based on their claim that that would contradict the concept of a loving God--can easily be turned against them because it could just as easily be argued, Why would a truly loving God simply destroy people (body and soul) for their punishment?...and especially why would a loving God destroy truly good people who just failed to either accept Him OR who maybe never heard of Him during life (e.g., remote islanders, Muslims in certain Middle Eastern areas, etc.). The guests' and host's arguments simply fall apart with only minor questioning and slightly decent reasoning. ... This show, as I noted, seems to be the result of Seventh-Day Adventist theology...though I don't see it noted. And, I'm fine with that as long as it's explicitly stated AND as long as no one lies...as occurred when the professor claimed it doesn't say in Revelation that punishment is eternal (as my reference above proves it DOES). ... Also, I am curious as to the "nature" of this show. I just saw the first episode last night and actually enjoyed it and left them a comment of praise. But, though these were supposedly--based on the posting dates on CZcams--filmed weeks (if not months--I think four months actually) apart, the audience members seem identical or nearly identical. And, they can't claim that they merely--as happens with many shows--filmed more than one episode in the same day, because the positions of the audience members changed between the two espisodes I've seen, along with the clothing and appearance of the members. (e.g., the older man on the front row with the girl of approximately 25. They are on the front row for both episodes, though other audience members changed places, and they are dressed differently...and, in fact, the man is cleanshaven in one episode but has several days growth of beard in another. So, did they ask for participation from a local Seventh-Day Adventist congregation, or what??
This is very misleading and actually deceiving. Hell is real just as heaven is real. If you really believe in God you must believe His Word. Jesus would not have died on the Cross if hell is not real.
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This is a show....Jesus said there is a hell and He's not a liar...God Supreme is not a pansy.
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I used to believe that hell was real as well but then I read 1 Thessalonians’s 4:13-18, which literally begins with “I do not want you to be ignorant brothers,” and I studied death in the Bible further and found that John 3:16 is in fact true, God came to have us eternal life, because we don’t already have it, so that we do not perish, which means die. Hell is an event not a place. Jesus came so that we wouldn’t be eternally separated from Him through death, “O death where is your victory, O death where is your sting”
Just say you don't believe in the bible. Or Jesus who spoke about hell 3x more than heaven.
This show is a lie!!