American Reacts to Why Diesel Cars Are Popular in Europe (And NOT in the US)
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I drive a BMW 530d. 50+MPG, 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, smooth, quiet, comfortable and reliable. I used to always drive petrols until I bought a 335d and was sold immediately. My last 4 cars have been 6 cylinder BMW diesels.
I drive a 530d too... Great motor! and that 500+Nm torque is useful! Amate of mine has a 2007/8 330i coupe with a few more horses... just edges out on a flat road.. but gets absolutely gapped uphill like the roads down to Devon with all the uphill overtaking lanes.. he's looking for an n57 330d wagon atm lol
In the USA BMW's become money pits as they age, they drain your pocket in repairs. Also in the US, diesel is much more expensive and the cost to purchase a diesel is more so unless you drive many miles per year, you cannot recover the cost.
@scrambler69-xk3kv supply and demand I guess.. since more are produced here the parts are more common so relative pricing is lower. Best car is the one that's suits the environment best!
@@scrambler69-xk3kvi own a BMW 530xd that we bought in 2013,she's putting down 450hp/900nm and we've done 300k on it without any major issues (needed new xenon bulbs, new suspension bags,one comfort entry door handle, rear brake light),just general maintenance,even the steering wheel/leather interior still looks brand new. I think the problem in the us is many of those cars are kept in the weather in areas with extreme cold/heat, my cars are always garage kept and i honestly never had a major issue with ANY of my vehicles and I've have quite a few over the years, that and leaving the maintenance/repairs to specialists trained to work on those specific vehicles, Americans love to Wrench and that's ok,but a chevi truck and a BMW or Mercedes are completely different beasts, if you get a 5 year old BMW that was owned by bill then bob that think they know better than BMW, start doing burn outs and drag races with a cold engine (or doing those things at all, they're not made for it!) ,i can imagine the nightmare it could be in cars with probably 40 different modules. If you buy from new, and take care of it it'll last a lifetime,we had probably over a dozen in the family, i have friends that did too, and the cars were used for several years and sold running flawlessly.Even a submarine or a tank will eventually rust out if left in the snow in the winter in the sun in the summer(i say this because i follow multiple American car channels and see how they treat those cars, they're supposed to be fast,comfortable highway cruisers not drag/drift cars)
@@scrambler69-xk3kvparts for BMWs are really cheap in Europe. And if maintained properly, BMWs are extremely reliable.
AdBlue is the same as you guys call DEF fluid. Best greetings from Norway P.S: That Audi A3 in your last search isn't really a wagon. It's classed as a hatchback here in Europe !! :)
I love how AdBlue consists of urine
@@that_one_pole17 that`s urea ... its something different
Can confirm, in Australia we call it ad blue aswel
@@that_one_pole17 you could extract urea from urine. You can theoretically piss in the Adbulue tank. But the urinary calculus that settles could become a problem
@@that_one_pole17 Amonia
I had a 2 litre Citroen HDI car that had covered 250k+ miles when I sold it. During all that time, all that car cost me was service items like oil. filters and brake pads. It used no oil between changes and would give 60mpg on a long run. It never had a spanner on the engine in all those miles and was still running perfectly when I sold it.
i have a peugeot with the same engine, for a 2016 car its extremely reliable
My father drives a 2005 2.0 HDI Exclusive C4 with 388xxx kilometers. It is still very powerful and has good fuel consumption for its engine size. This car has not required any heavy maintenance so far. Once we thought we had a turbo problem. We figured out it was a simple vacuum leak issue. A small hose was broken at its connection point. We resolved the problem at no cost.
PSA diesel engines just seem to be more reliable and last longer. My dads Peugoet 407 has passed 350.000 km with only regular maintenance.
The only problem is goddamn DPF filter. My tdci engine from PSA is good but that particle filter doesn't work properly and to replace it you have to pay thousands of euros
i had dpf problem.. removed it and ecu remap no more problem haha and it pass emission test easily@@artemkov644
I drive a BMW 335 d , it’s a twin turbo 3 litre with 300 hp and 650 nm of torque it’s an absolute beast and can get nearly 50 mpg so it’s a win win.
nice, i drive a 2018 BMW 335d with stage 2 tune.
400 hp and 750 nm it’s crazy fast and still got about 50 mpg!
@@sebbekartellen6493 Dang, it must be a mean ride
@@luckgrip252 yeah i have spent over $8000 in mods on this car so it’s not just fast, it also looks really good and aggressive
@@sebbekartellen6493 What mods you have done for performance?
@@mareksv1947
High flow sport air filter.
DPF delete.
Stage 2 tune.
That’s it
I think it depends on the country when we speak about Europe. Norway is not the same as Italy, the market is totally different, local policies come into play, and the average driver has a radically different approach to cars. As an example, here in Spain diesel cars have seen a huge drop in sales due to changes in EU and local policies regarding fuel types in the past decade or so, especially after the introduction of Euro6 regulations. Prices at the gas pump have changed as well. All of them have increased, but the removal of tax advantages for Gasoleo A (Diesel for commuting and trucking, non industrial or agrarian use) ended up causing diesel to be even more expensive than Unleaded 95 at times.
Nowadays, most of the new cars on the road are gasoline or hybrid, with a consistently growing amount of electric cars which, while being still pretty marginal, have seen a rise in popularity with the irruption of chinese brands (MG, Lynk & Co, etc.) which provide decent vehicles for a reasonable price, whereas european, japanese and korean manufacturers have not been able to compete in terms of costs due to various reasons, which could be discussed in length. However, Kia, Hyundai and Toyota still sell pretty well because of their reliability and proven Hybrid/EV technologies which help the user save a lot of money in the long run.
The rise in MSRP for conventional cars from traditional, proven brands has caused a steep decline on sales in the past couple of years, because for the average Spaniard it does not make sense to dump 30k€ on a basic hatchback when the same car a couple years ago was 20-22k€, while salaries have not gone up a bit. Add to it this uncertainty surrounding the future of combustion cars and the still unproven tech and defficient infrastructure for EVs, and you end up seeing most people just sticking to their old cars for the moment. They have been played before with the anti-diesel trend and almost forced to purchase a brand new gas/hybrid vehicle, and now politicians want them to get rid of their serviceable cars again to an even greater cost. That´s why automotive industry in Europe is suffering badly.
Yeah, a lot of new cars are bought as a Petrol instead of a Diesel nowadays.
Diesel cars in Europe definitely lost their appeal in recent years.
fun fact for Ian.. 1st generation of fabia RS was 1,9l tdi🙋🇨🇿best 1st used car ever, if you can get one
My wife drives one of these...it goes like shit off a shovel! 🤪👍🇬🇧
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My first car was a diesel. A '79 VW Rabbit 4 door, with a 1.5L naturally aspirated diesel that made 48HP. It was a perfect car for a high school student. It didn't go any faster than about 75 mph, and, it got 45 to 55 mpg.
that is good for old diesel, my first car was a ford fiesta 1.4tdci 69bhp and 120 nm torque even when used like i stole it still get 40's mpg and long trips close to 80mpg, smaller petrol car now lucky to get 40mpg if i drive careful and lot less when driven crazy
My first car was a mazda 323 1.7 1990 which had about 54 hp, it was super slow, but as you say, perfect for a student, it consumed almost no fuel, and at the time diesel was 3X cheaper than it is now here in Poland. It also ran on vegetable oil lol
@@stevekenilworth It was also supremely low mileage when I got it, and, the previous owner had maintained it meticulously well, so, I'm sure that had an impact on it's performance by the time I got it, in the 90s.
323f cool car but never knew that has diesel plus car from that era pretty light too too what also helps with fun and mpg always like the 323f shape @@dupazbita6103
you got lucky a small light weight car what well maintained and low mileage, another cool car but was not all about power, my fiesta 2007 face lift was not the fastest of the line but hold really well in the corners so had lot fun so soon up to speed the torque help you stay there @@ExUSSailor
Service/Repair is nearly the same here in Europe. Usually the main difference is the price of fuel and higher energy density of diesel, which lowers the consumption. Due to tax changes in Germany gas and diesel nearly cost the same, but diesel cars usually cost about 1-2k more, so mostly it is only worth it to buy a diesel if you drive at least 10-15k miles a year to get benefit from it.
Diesel is much worse if you drive only short distances, but are great if you drive a lot on Autobahn. So usually they are used for bigger cars or vans.
Now diesel market share is in Germany even low electric vehicles, still at around 18% (sales in 2023) but not as popular as it was few years ago.
Hey, also from Germany: but this is exactly what I don´t get: with the (for Diesel-engines) very low speed allowed and the great distances in the US, that would be highly effectiv for them. Even for regular cars. I used to have a 2006 Ford Focus 2.0 TDCI and was doing more then a 1000km with 55 liters of fuel. And had more tourgh than a regular Porsche Boxter.
i have to disagree, diesel repairs and service it is more expensive, think about all the filters, egr's, fuel systems, catalytic converters.... i had both gas and diesel and if its not a vehicle that i would use for towing/hauling stuff, gasoline just does the job better, they will get less mpg, but that depends on a lot on your driving style, if you have a heavy foot you will get less mpg on either case... for example I've use as a daily for couple years a mk2 gti i would get 45 mpg doing mixed urban/highway and thats a 30+ years engine, also have a 2019 polo gti with the 2.0 tsi and i can easily do 55 mpg...
same thing in Italy, unfortunately the service and repair costs/fuel costs are similar like almost all of Europe, in my opinion the "scam" of all modern cars is to make you feel comfortable,
in increasingly elegant cars full of gadgets as if I had to live in the car! I started driving when the most common cars were Fiat 127, 128 Ford Fiesta and who could buy them Fiat 131/132 or Ford Capri /taunus, BMWs were rarely seen and those who liked racing focused on Alfa Romeos,
but if you were a boy who had to buy a car the choice was always on Fiat 500 Citroen 2CV/Dyane6 Renault 4/5 and always strictly second or third fourth hand, the latter hardly reached 1L of displacement they were light and consequently consumed little , they certainly weren't rockets but they took you from point A to point B,
if a part had to be changed it cost little, the electronics and maintenance were non-existent, on the contrary today's cars regardless of fuel are expensive and heavy full of electronics and control units that for any fault the whole car is blocked
@@iperez6👍👍👍👏👏👏 osobno ja kao netko tko je cijeli zivot radio u autoindustriji i koji prelazim malu kilometrazu godisnje, nikada nisam kupio dizelasa. Dizel vozila su skuplja u samom startu, puno skuplje odrzavanje i izuzetno kompliciranije od benzinaca. Za nekoga tko prelazi malo kilometara, nema nikakvog smisla kupiti dizelasa. Osobno sam cijeli zivot radio u ovlastenim servisima, tako da dobro znam koliko je skuplje imati vozilo na dizel, nego na benzin
They're great at short distances if you get a performance dpf or delete it entirely
Ive got a 2.0 cr tdi seat leon, 200bhp, 400lb 6sc o-60 45 mpg 60 on the motorway. Love a diesel
6 sec 0-100km Doubt it.
@@bartez2317 Also not 200 bhp! That would be stage 2 chiptuning with one ore two changed parts!
@@voodoossj 200 HP on 2.0 tdi is possible without changing parts. I had a 2008 Passat CC 2.0 tdi with 200 HP, Stage 2 only Software.
@@voodoossj 200 HP, 420 Nm Torque and a manual transmission. That was fun to drive and towing trailer!
@TommysToolPalace I know it's possible, but shops around here don't give any warranty for stage 2 without some upgrades.
I have a Volvo S60 diesel. After some tuning i have 270bhp/391 ft/lbs and an average of 45mpg us. Top speed155mph and 0-60 in 6,5 sec. That´s more than enough for me.
Ive been driving bmw e39 530d automatic for past 10 years and i love it. Fuel consumption is under 9l and it has 200hp, while for same consumtion i would get shit box petrol car with 100hp.
You're trying hard, no competition Diesel is more economical in all ways. Trucking is all about economics, they don't run diesel because they have to.
trying hard at what lol
Well, the trucking industry would be a far more expensive thing if the trucks are ran on gasoline/petrol due to fuel economy, Torque (which indirectly translates to how much weight can be pulled), reliability, etc.
It just doesn't translate very well to all passenger cars. The fact is that a diesel deteriorates fast with a lot of cold starts and idling, so for someone deciding between an ICE car for little small trips not exceeding 20miles/half an hour, the diesel never gets warm and will soot up. Gas would be the better choice, as it reaches working temperature a lot faster.
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@@IWrocker I've read his/her comment several times and I still can't find out what he/she is saying...
Check out the Junkers Ju 86, German airliner and bomber of the 1930s. That had Junkers Jumo 205 diesel engines, though they weren't so reliable in combat conditions. You can spot the trail of black diesel smoke behind the Jumo-powered ones.
I've had diesel cars, mostly in the UK and Spain, for a good few years now, after a while using LPG - which is great but not freely available. I have a Citroën 2.0 litre diesel estate and can break 70 miles per gallon on a long, steady run (air-con off). Buying secondhand means you're probably not picking up the initial tab on the diesel, but I keep my cars for about 10 years, and I haven't bought a car for a while.
I have been using a Golf MK7 SW TDI since August 2015 in Canada right before the scandal broke down. For 4 years I've kept a record of my consumption in a spreadsheet and the price I paid for diesel, always taking note of the regular petrol's price. Each time I calculated how much I could have driven if I had been using a petrol car. Most of the time the price per litre for petrol was much lower than diesel, sometimes they were pretty similar. Even with that difference, at the end I am always winning the battle with my TDI.
I'm on my 2nd diesel car - my first was a 2001 Volvo V70 estate with a 2.4 diesel engine which was very smoky under hard acceleration. It had cylinder head problems due to porous castings both with the original and the replacement cylinder heads, so I sold it in favour of a 2006 Honda Accord EX 2.2 i-CDTi Tourer (an estate/station wagon version of the 2006 Acura TSX) which is by far a much more refined and cleaner diesel engine by comparison. The exhaust fumes on the Honda smell like a steam engine and there's no black sooty smoke belching out from it like the Volvo under hard acceleration. What was a surprise is the 2.2 i-CDTi Tourer costs less in tax compared to the 2.0 and 2.4 petrol models. The 2006 Accord diesel is definitely a keeper and I hope to have it for many more years to come.
in the last 35 years of driving, nearly half of my cars were Diesel powered ones. Fun fact: my two US-cars were both diesel ( PT Cruiser CRD and Voyager CRD ). And yes, the combination of torque, effitioncy and econemy is key. My last Diesel had 275 lb-ft and got 35 mpg. 26 mpg with the trailer and two horses ;-) ( Renault Vel Satis )
benz engine😁
There is nothing more exhilarating for me than the pure torque and acceleration of a turbo diesel engine. For example my old Audi 2.0 TDI, 170hp felt amazing when you smash the gas pedal on 2nd and 3rd gear, the sensation of all that torque was intoxicating! Especially since since VW group cars makes their turbo reach full blow pretty low down the RPM range so you got that massive amount of power very quick off the line. That engine has put more smile on me than my 220hp gasoline car.
I hate the turbo lag. You press on the accelerator, and you get wait wait ok now we go.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv that's the case if you drive an automatic, if you drive manual you can always shift in the right rpm zone so you keep your turbo spooled and always have all that sweet turbo power.
@@MrChipcho Get a tune on the car too. Will really open it up. 170 will feel like limp mode after it.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Modern cars (well mine is a 2006) reach full boost around 1500RPM. There's virtually no lag.
My 2004 Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI have no turbo lag.... I'm surprised. She have 6 speed manual. She keeps going and going. Turbo starts to spool at 1500 rpm 😎 I change the gear Around 2000 to 2400 to keep turbo spooling, the torque is intoxicating yes. It put smiles on my face😊
Hi Ian! My daily driver is a Toyota Land Cruiser (model 90). It has a 3.0 liter 4 cylinder D4-D common rail diesel engine. The car was built in 2002 wich I got my hands on in 2012, bought from the first owner (I can't afford a brand new one). So yep, after 11 years I still don't want to part from it. Its the best car you'll ever, ever drive in your life. The durability and reliability on these things is mindblowing. They are so extremely well built. I'm a 48 yo 4x4 enthusiast as well as a commercial truckdriver over here in the Netherlands (8x8 MAN if you want to know😉), and my main work lies in construction and infra. So in all my years of experience in offroad construction and 4x4 wheeling I never owned a car as capable as this one. Not my Isuzu Trooper 2.8 tdi, not my 3.0 6 inline diesel Nissan Patrol GR, not even my Chevy Blazer K5 Silverado '85 can match the capabilities of a Land Cruiser by a long shot. But to answer your question😂: Diesel all the way mate!
Keep it up Ian!👍
what an amazing story all about you.....
Nissan patrol 4.2 or 4.8 all the way. Will run rings around Land Cruiser. That 3.0 was a grenade. I have a Lexus 4.3 3UZ in mine. 😂
there is a reason why landcruisers are insanely expensive on the used car market. Age and kilometres seem to be completey irrelevant. 25 year old landcruisers dont go for under 20k euros where i live.
@IWrocker made this video 2 years ago didn’t know it will resurface now glad you used it best reaction
My father drives 2022 ID4 and it has been working COMPLITELY fine here in Finland with --30-40c temps.
As Czech person we had both petrol and diesel. Opel Astra 2008 wagon 1.7 TDCi 74Kw. Now we have Mitsubishi ASX 2017 1.6 86Kw. I must say Diesel is more comfy to drive. Can have problems in cold with starting but if you make sure your battery is OK there shouldnt be problem. Ofcourse diesels are on longer trips they are not city cars. Also takes longer to get engine warm, so dont expect that heating in winter will work right away you start engine. Unless you have independent heating system.
Things have changed in France regarding diesel cars. In the early 1990s, the government introduced many incentives to promote diesel due to its low fuel consumption, in order to reduce CO2 emissions. Diesel was less taxed and therefore much cheaper at the pump than gasoline. From 2001 to 2016 diesel was everywhere, in 2008 it represented 77% of the market.
But over the last years, the government has changed its mind due to NOx and fine particle emissions from diesel engines, enforced by new European regulations. Today, diesel costs almost the same as gasoline at the pump and the supply of new diesel models from automakers is significantly reduced. Diesel represents only 10% of the market now, a 83% drop and electric cars sell more (15% of the European market)!
Gasoline, hybrid and electric engines are closing the gap in their automotive market share.
It's a similar situation in the UK, especially since many cities here have introduced clean air zones and charge heavily for older diesel vehicles.
Now that they are implementing the low emission zones (ZFE), diesel cars are going to be strongly unfavored.
I live in Lyon, diesel cars made before 2006 and gas cars from before 1997 are already forbidden in the center.
Next year, they will move one step higher : 2006 for gas and 2011 for diesel (28% of the vehicules will be out)
In 2028 all diesel cars are going to be forbidden in the perimeter (plus gas cars older than 2011).
In Paris the dates are similar : 2025 and 2030.
Knowing this doesn't help selling diesel cars even now, a few years before. But anyway, it's going to be forbidden to sell brand new combustion engines starting in 2035 in all the EU.
@@noefillon1749 I'm French, Parisian for 3 decades. For Paris, our "dear" Mayor wishes to be further ahead of the LEZ (ZFE in French) by setting the threshold a notch higher (e.g. Crit'tair 2 where the European regulation says Crit'tair 3)... For the moment, there are no enforcement, no license plate cameras, this has been postponed many times but it's provided for in the package of laws on automobile restrictions that the Town Hall will impose just after the Olympic Games.
To close the subject of the LEZ, politicians fear that when everyone is affected by the system, or is simply aware of it, which doesn't seem to be the case yet, this could lead to a new insurrection of the “yellow jacket” type.
I haven't delved into the subject in my commentary as the channel's international audience is certainly not aware of the intricacies of European regulations, in fact I even doubt Americans are fully aware of the EU ban on ICU engines for new cars from 2035.... At least I wrote that diesel is in sharp decline due to the new European rules.
@@circulation69 Ah yes, for London, it’s insane. A few days ago I stumbled upon this YT video: czcams.com/video/ldOHZZQpXgg/video.htmlsi=qN7XY8hVU1mwdL_Z about the 'Blade Runner Vigilantes' who have been methodically destroying ULEZ cameras since the extension last August of the low emissions zone.
The video also highlights the many problems non local people and foreigners face when entering these areas without knowing the local rules. Not only in the London area, it happened to a friend of mine after a short trip to Brussels, but for Paris there's no enforcement at the moment.
@@BertrandNelson-Paris The ZFE is a big topic, for the moment it seems to be unheared of, politicians are discreeet and ppl don't really react but for the moment, they are not really enforced and ppl with banned vehicles keep getting in the zones. Right now, most vehicles are not affected, only Crit'air 4 and above (12.2% of them).
The thing is that France got condemned by the EU justice court in 2019 andtwice by the Conseil d'Etat (French Supreme Court) in 2022 and 2023 for consistently violating the European directives about air quality. France was threatened to be fined 240 k€ PER DAY until it implements radical measures regarding air quality. The European directive dates back from 2008 and we had done approximately nothing to meet the air pollution level requirements, we are clearly late compared to other EU countries.
Taking this into account, the ZFE scheme was created by the Mobility Orientation Law (2019) and the Climate and Resilience Law (2021) and 10 cities (consistently over air pollution thresholds) are forced to implement a ZFE and banning Crit'air 5 in 2023, 4 in 2024 and 3 in 2025. According to what I saw, the agenda in Metropole du Grand Paris is not more ambitious than what the law requires. Paris mayor is not competent in that matter anyway, it's the Metropolis that has to take these decisions. I don't really know how the local politics go and if the Mayor has a lot of power in the Metropolis or not though.
Anyway, that was way deeper than what I thought about writing this morning, you are right I think it's way too technical for a foreign (from a French perspective) audience... but people are not forced to read all the comments, and especially all the replies anyway.
As a mechanic for 22 years I can tell you that here in Europe the vast majority of drivers think that if they run their engine at more than 3000rpm their engine will break down so they tend to drive between 1000-3000 rpm. This means that when they use a gasoline car they never get more than 40% of the available power. However running a diesel engine at the same rpm they either have +70% of the available power. That is why many people in Europe think that diesel cars are faster and see them as easier to use. If you drive at 4000-5000rpm a petrol car in Europe the passengers in your car will start telling you everything like "what are you doing" "you are going to break the engine" "that is not necessary" "you don't know how to drive".
Maintenance:
2004 MK3 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, 130BHP. Serviced every 12,500 miles as per Ford service schedule. Ran it to 168,000 miles before selling it to a friend who then crashed it. Still on original injectors, turbo, EGR valve and dual mass flywheel. Never had a spanner to the engine. Averaged 55MPG (Imperial Gallon).
2010 MK4 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi, 140BHP. Serviced every 12,500 miles as per Ford service schedule. Ran it to 155,000 miles, gave it to my parents. It's now on 200,000 miles and still on original injectors, turbo, EGR valve, clutch and dual mass flywheel. Other than cambelt change at 120,000 miles it never had a spanner to the engine. Averages 53MPG (Imperial gallon). In my ownership it did a lot of towing of a 1.5 tonne 26ft caravan and would pull that up a 1 in 6 hill, 16% incline at 60MPH and return 33-35MPG (Imperial gallon) when towing. DPF filter did finally need to be changed at 182,000 miles/12 years old but that was because it got a rust hole in it, not because the DPF filter stopped working. Never had any issues or even a warning light come up for it getting full.
Currently running a MK4 Ford Focus 1.5TDCi, serviced every 10,000 miles as per Ford service schedule. Done 60,000 miles in that to date with no issues, it averages 65 MPG Imperial.
Gas engines, I've had several cars from BMW, Ford, Rover, Vauxhall I've taken to 150-200,000 miles, servicing them at the mileage the manufacturer states and its been a similar experience however they have had to have spark plugs changed regularly.
Basically if you service them properly there should be no reason why either diesel or gas can't do 200,000 miles plus with little issue.
My uncle had a WV diesel sedan here in Australia he loved that car he said it was way better than the others he had through his years
Australians love diesel, Very common there.
A few comments on towing with a small car:
First of all, once you add a trailer to a car, the max allowed speed is set to 50mph (80kph), with a few exceptions depending on the trailer, some are allowed to be operated up to 60 mph (100kph). So, there is no high speed driving when towing, even if you are on a sectio of the Autobahn with no speed limit.
Additionally, the max allowable weight of the trailer depends on the type of towing vehicle: a small hatchback is not permited to tow heavy trailers. As a rule of thumb, one can tow half of the towing vehicles weight with a trailer without brakes, and about the same weight as the car, if the trailer does have brakes. So you won´t find a hatchback towing a horse trailer or a big RV trailer, even if they are empty. Of relevance is only the max allowed weight of the trailer, that must be below the towing limit of the pulling car. Additionally, the weight on the trailer hitch must not exceed 50KG (~100punds(weight)).
I had several models of diesel cars (from simple turbo-compressor models to more modern common rail) from Citroën and Renault. All got more than 250 000 km when I sold them. My current Renaud Espace 4 2.0 dCi (175 hp Nissan motor) has 280 000 km now and runs like a charm.
Hello , i've got a car with the 2.0dCi 150hp variant . 260xxx kilometers , runs great so far , it's Renault Laguna 3 estate with 4 control .
The school district I retired from after thirty- five years purchased four Ford F350 pickup trucks in 2008. They were 6.4 Liter diesel. We used them to plow snow from the six school parking lots, and towing trailers. In the instrument cluster was a readout that showed average mpg. The one I used never showed more than eight MPG in the four years I operated it.
My daily ride is Volvo V70 2.4 turbo diesel off course. Its a station wagon and i dont have back seats because its registratet to van its cheaper tax. Perfect for me as "job" car.
Got the same (p26), but with the D5 instead. Which is pmuch just a diffrent ecu and slightly higher boost, but i love that car. Mine’s creeping up on 400,000km on its original engine which overall is in good shape (eg, no cracked alu blocks which isn’t super rare to happen). I do have the 2nd gen D5, so 185hp & 400nm.
Cool you could register it as a van, didn’t know that was a thing. Then again I’ve 3kids and a mrs so never crossed my mind to rip to rearseats out haha
@@JohanHultin In Finland it's common to register Diesel Wagons as Vans because Diesel tax is normally 2X compared to a gasoline car, registering as a Van drops it to similar yearly tax as the gasoline cars
I have a 1.3L Opel Corsa, diesel. As I don't commute to work with it, I only visited the gas station 4 times last year. Pretty happy with the economy. On the down side, it won't start at around -15C. But it might also be a battery issue as my old diesel was starting even at -30C.
I do not drive cars, so I have no idea how common knowledge it is, or if that's now controlled completely by electronics (and "computer says 'NO' "). Having driven some diesel forklifts, long time ago, I remember that on a cold day you had to turn the key, without attempting to start the engine, to let glow plugs warm it up. Given some time this would allow ignition. Batteries indeed do not like cold, but could worn out glow plugs be a problem here? (Allegedly, glow plugs may not even be fitted in some cases?)
@@marshad82 Usually this could be a problem, but I had the glow plugs changed a couple of winters ago. Why I think it's the battery is that after the warming up (the coil symbol in the panel no longer indicating) I try to start the engine and the whole panel starts going dark, also the sound of the starter is very weak, it seems that it's barely turning. In very cold weather it's even advised to do two or three warming cycles (wait for the coil symbol to disappear, turn back the key to start position and half turn it again so it would start warming the engine without starting it). But this technique seems to be well beyond my current battery. I think this is common knowledge only in cold countries were diesels are popular.
@@marshad82 Audi B8. Warming up occurs automatically in cold weather. On all my diesel cars, starting in winter was quite rough, but on the first or second try it always started
battery issues and fuel filter might be clogged.
Hi Ian, greetings again from Sydney Australia. Thought I'd comment on this topic. Previously owned a HSV (Holden Special Vehicles) Senator VX series, 2001 model, which is a premium variant of the Calais (although a newer model than the one in your background images). My HSV has a 5.8 litre V8 petrol engine, quite thirsty on the gas but have had a lot of fun with it. In July '23 I took delivery of my new Genesis GV80 - 3 litre turbo diesel variant. I understand the Genesis GV80 is available in the States, but only in the 2.5 turbo 4 cylinder or 3.5 twin turbo 6 cylinder options. I selected the diesel engine for many of the reasons discussed in your video, it has quite good power and plenty of torque and good fuel economy (I have measured around 8 litres / 100 km on road trips, and typically around 11 litres / 100 km around town ... will leave the mpg conversion to you!). Quite happy with my choice so far. A little off topic although also mentioned briefly in the video, there is a big push towards adoption of EV's here for environmental and other reasons. Some EV's getting around, quite a few Tesla's, but I think completely impractical for Australia due to the huge distances we cover - unless limiting to around town use (and someone is OK with the risk of it catching fire and burning their house down!). I enjoy all your videos and Aussie enthusiasm, keep up the good work mate!
1:02 Love that you pronounce "Volkswagen" the right way =)
I own 2 diesel cars, a peugeot 208 1.4 HDI and a Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI 4x4 DSG, they do around 65mpg and 55mpg respectively. I do around 50 miles every day to commute to work. I save a lot even with the maintenance. Yes diesels are more expensive to fix but I still save a bunch compared to a gasoline car on the same route. ( I live in the UK)
I own 2016 octavia 1.4 150. Average mpg 43 in London which I think is really good.
I’ve easily achieved 60+ mpg on longer journeys. The price of diesel also put me off.
Speed wise slightly slower than a vrs tdi
And the insurance group is super low.
Maybe a bmw 530/35d touring would tempt me, Although Skoda superb 220/280 is calling
Diesel is much more expensive than petrol in the USA, and I guess if our gallon contained as much as yours our cars mpg's would go up.
1. There is another popular fuel type in part of Europe. It's LPG - Liquefied petroleum gas / Propane (do not mistake it with CNG - Compressed Natural Gas those are two different things...and CNG is virtually unused at least as far as Poland goes). As the price for a liter of LPG is half of the price of liter of gasoline the LPG is very popular in some countries (Poland included). That's why people very often modify their gasoline cars (Diesel convertion is more expensive and not as popular as Gasoline ones). So much so that some car makers offer factory build cars with dual fuel option. But usualy it is aftermarket add-on. LPG has some drawbacks tho. You can't run it on cold engine (you need to start it and warm it up using gasoline and then switch to LPG) Also as LPG calorific value is lower than gasoline, the car will use bit more LPG - 15-20%. So this kind of setup makes sense if You will drive a lot (You need to cover not only the 20% fule consumption difrence, but also cost of the installation for it). Also the yearly inspection for car with LPG cost a bit more, and You need separate inspection and certificate for the LPG pressure tank.
2. Yes Diesel is popular. But it changes now as the new diesel engines don't have durability of old diesels. Like some 10-15 years ago in Poland the most popular car of all time was Volkswagen Passat 1,9 TDI Kombi. There were know cases were the car did arround 600-700k km on one engine. Also Some older engines could run on mixture od Diesel and other oil... used up cooking oil and heating oil aka the "pink stuff" was the most popular. But this practice was and is highly illegal.But now newer engines can't run on that, and also as mentioned don't have such high durability. Also the price of Diesel itself was waaaay lower when compared to Gasoline/Petrol.
I personaly never had Diesel or LPG car only gasoline (I've drove my father's car that used LPG a lot when i was a teenage tho). As it never made sense for me. As I used to drive max 600-900 km per month, and now even less. So never made sense for me cost wise
Those are all results of bad taxation here in Europe. Lpg, cng and diesel have no ecological advantage over gasoline. People just chose those engines because the fuel was taxed less. If the fuels were correctly taxed by their energy density, then Diesel would be 20% more expensive than gasoline and almost everybody would have bought gasoline engines because they are cheaper to build.
@@Psi-Storm "Lpg, cng and diesel have no ecological advantage over gasoline" KEK.... Are u serious, or just uninformed? LPG is an unleaded fuel with low carbon content. As a result, 15% less carbon dioxide and approximately 60% less toxic substances enter the atmosphere. Also LPG and CNG has much less solid particles. So not contributing as much as Diesel and Gasoline to emission of PM 2,5 and PM 10 particles
@@Psi-Storm LPG is slightly more ecological than gas or diesel. It is manly propane and butane so very short carbon chains in the molecules the rest of which is hydrogen. Gas and diesel are similar but have way longer carbon chains. When you burn any of these fuels you burn the carbon to produce CO2 and the hydrogen to H2O (Water). LPG's carbon to hydrogen ratio is shifted slightly towards hydrogen compared with haveyer fuels. So your exhaust consists of more harmless water and less climate changing CO2.
But the difference is somewhat neglectable ... It's like being hit by a hammer or being hit by a hammer covered in a bit cloth... it's the hammer that kills you and the cloth won't safe you.
@@Schwuuuuup The lower energy density of LPG just leads to a higher consumption per km driven. AFAIK the CO2 production is proportional to the energy usage in all these oil based products. But even if there are slight variations, the massively different taxation doesn't reflect these. Diesel is subsidized to support farmers and the economy and LPG and LNG for cars isn't taxed that much because there is low usage, so increases won't bring in much tax.
@@Psi-StormIn reality LPG and natural gas have huge benefit in regards of emissions.
LPG and natural gas have lower CO2, NOx and hydrocarbons emissions, and virtually zero PM emissions.
I bought an SUV with a 2.5L turbodiesel 10 years ago. 6 years ago we put an ECU tune on it that increased power from 140hp -> 270hp and torque from 260 lbft -> 500 lbft, but left everything (turbo, internals, exhaust, intake) factory stock. It still runs like new today and has never broke down. Best part is it still gets 30+ mpg even with the tune.
Come on man, which engine can do it from 140 to 270hp with stock turbo and injectors?
I'm pro-diesel, but they can be troublesome in cold weather as well. Or at least used to be. I remember my dad going out to attach a heater to the engine block in cold weather; or sending me out to do it, when we had one that just plugged in. Many came with an electric cable so you could plug in the engine to pre-heat it before trying to start it. IIRC it was due to the viscosity of the fuel, as it contains the oil needed to lubricate the cylinders. One we had for a few years was an awesome 70s dark green Volvo diesel wagon. He had to do a lot of work on it, but not as much as the VW Microbus LOL.
never had any problems in the cold even with -20 ^^
Its funny how the eletric cars gets terrible press in the US. Here in Norway 82% of all new passenger cars sold in 2023 were eletric and they are connsiderd more reliable ( by NAF, Norways anser to AAA) than petrol and gas powerd cars.
Almost as if the media cares more about sensation and fearmongering (and thus money) than it does about being fair...
As soon as he mentionned the cold I thought about Norway which is notorious for its electric car market in the field I'm going to work (I'm studying transport / urban / territorial planning in France)
Norwegian government heavily incentivises people to buy electric cars, in most of northern Europe they are only 20% of the new car market
You need as many chargers as 1 of they’re states need😅
And not to mention you can still have over 300hp stock in alot of diesel cars, most 6 cylinders have 225+ and with the 300hp models usually have around 600NM torque
I agree! 2 years ago i drive a Audi A5 Coupé with a 3,0 V6 TDI with a smooth Software! It run with 290 HP and 580 nm torque! When you Drive normal you only need 7-8 liters Diesel for 100 Kilometers!
They have lots of torque but sound like a tractor… 😂
Diesel cars definitely lost their appeal in the last 5 - 10 years in Europe.
@@Kev27RS if you think they sound like tractors you don't really have much of a clue, compare modern common rail to old mechanical pumps
@@volvofreak86 There’s nothing exciting about the sound of a diesel car.
Diesel powered cars are popular / common in Europe but they’re becoming less common nowadays.
A lot of new cars are being bought as a Petrol instead of a Diesel.
It wasn’t like that around 10 years ago…
Diesel cars in Europe don’t have any presence anymore in today’s car market.
Petrol, Hybrid and Electric cars are at the top of the market today!
@@Kev27RS I personally like them and i wouldn't mind owning anything above 5 cylinders since i currently have one, i would love to have a V10 or a V12 tdi but if i were to buy a new car since i don't need an econobox i would go with an american V8, older diesel or a newer petrol V8
Diesel all day long! I may only drive a 1.3 manual turbo diesel fiat panda 4x4 but it's basically a luxury side by side , pulls my boat, and tear drop offroad camper, can drive through a river up to my wing mirrors, gets 70 mpg, cruises at 70-80 mph , I can and do run it on old filtered oil change oil...get it in the tank!, old chip pan oil.. Get it in there with a glug of petrol 😂 it's not arsed. My little 1.3 manual diesel probably has more pulling power than a hummer😆👍
Panda 4×4 and it0s diesel! One of my favourite cars! Such a fun little thing and deceptively capable.
I have Euro6 Skoda octavia Scout, 2015. without adblue. 2.0 tdi 135 kw, heaviest thing i have towed, was Audi a6 2006.
My skoda towing weight is 3500 lbs maximum set by factoy, Audi A6 with trailer was like over 5500 lbs, and trailer above 1600 lbs are mandatory to have breaks.
maintenance for my skoda here is like 400 euros for oil and filters, if you add timing belt and waterpump, its around 1200 euros, in dealership. timingbelt change interval is around 80 000 - 120 000 km. When i hit 320 0000 km my flywheel went noisy, change cost with clutch was 1600 euros, and dualmass flywheel change interval is 250 000 km according to factory data. It has dsg 6-speed automatic gearbox... I love it i have owned it 5 years now
Check out Bjørn Nyland and see that EVs in winter are of cause having their issues (slower charging, 15-30% less range) but that these are no deal breakers at all. Norway loves them and they know the cold in every variant. I just parked my EV in Copenhagen for 2 weeks, 52% when I left, 52% when I came back. Then drove 150km in -14C back home. Did a 10min top up, as I had my family with me (but otherwise would have made it with 1%). So honestly: EVs are the better choice for me and I guess for the majority of people
So what seems to be the current problem with "dead" EV's (Teslas?) blocking charging stations in parts of US (Chicago perhaps)? I believe temps dropped there down to around -25°C though.
I do wonder about longevity of EV batteries in places like Norway - not about driving in cold temps, as drawing current will warm them up (cold weather may even prolong longevity and temporary increase performance) , but about short and long term storage in these conditions, which is deadly to Li-ion without self warming circuitry.
@@marshad82 It's the same in Sweden. The only ones talking about EV's being bad are the ones that don't want to switch. We don't have any problems with EV's in the cold, we had below -25C several times this winter and nothing happened.
I do not mean to bash other brands, but let’s put it like this European EVs are winter tested in northern Sweden and summer tested in South Africa. So I feel confident that they work well in our climate.
@@thedryparn1279 cold EVs are not my issue, its the fully charred ones that worry everyone.
And what does any of that have to do with this video?
Dutchy here, I love my diesels, i used to make fun of French cars for years and then i got one, a Citroen C3 1.6 diesel.
Got about 110HP and plenty of grunt for non highway driving, also drives 20-24Km on 1L of diesel, €70 get's me through a month
For maintenance i can't complain, didn't service for the first 3 years i got it, then the distribution belt snapped,
but they amazingly said the engine itself was still worth it, so i let it rebuild and i'm planning to drive this car until it breaks.
Last service with a new garage they didn't believe me when i said the service history, everything looked great apart from the fluids,
the state of those was the only reason they asked about the history.
This Citroen really earned my respect and i'm driving into year 6, last 3 yearly checks for safety was under €100, things like lightbulbs
I've had Diesel cars and Utes (VW, Hilux, Ranger, Mitsubishi) plus loads of petrol (Ford, Honda, Mazda, Toyota, Volvo etc), if you are doing long trips and high mileage, it's diesel every day of the week. Always surprised me when visiting, given the distances travelled in the US, that there wasn't loads of diesel cars. Check out the older model Audi A8 4.2 TDi, you could also briefly get the VW Toureg V10 TDi in the US in the mid 00's.
Hi Ian, I'm on my 3rd diesel car,and it's my second Vectra cdti 150. My first was a Peugeot 405 1.9 non turbo with 70 hp, I was not impressed with it, it couldn't hold 70 mph up hill with 4 people on board. That put me off oil burners for some time. However after renting a couple of modern electronic turbo diesel cars I bought my frst Vauxhall Vectra CDTI. 1.9 litres again but with a turbo 16 valves and eletronic injection smooth and 150 hp. Straight away I noticed the fuel economy I filled up once a fortnight as opposed to once a week, previous car was a 2 litre Honda Accord, insurance was about the same and road tax was slightly lower. Iliked it that much that when it died about this time in 21 I just went and found anouther one, the only problem I have with it was that I could only find another silver one. But after all is said and done 500 miles on average and 600 miles on a run to a tank of diesel that does me.
In terms of maintenance there is pretty much no difference between modern petrol or diesel cars apart from the added running cost of filling up with adblue a couple of times per year which really doesn't add up to much (unless you have an early Citroen diesel with adblue which needs to be filled up by a mechanic).
No need for sparkplug change in diesel, and also you do not have ignition coils that goes bad.
With all the emission rules there is no small simple engine anymore. Most engines are quite small and use turbos.
@Xanthopteryx, they do have glow plugs that usually need replacing at 100,000km
@@ozzesty7314 Today they will normally last longer than that.
@@ozzesty7314 How long do ignition plugs work ? Glow plugs are sometimes difficult to remove because they work that long and usually don't need repair. My last car had about 160.000km and was sold with the first glow plugs.
I used to come across online with some EV owners from Russia. And while Moscow and ST.Petersburg are logical locations for some of them, there were also a lot of people from places like Novosibirsk or Irkutsk. Areas with really cold weather on regular basis. Weirdly, they didn't experience all those massive issues so widely discussed in the media for the past few weeks. And when considering purchase of an EV, opinions of those people mattered even more than owners from Western Europe or the US.
There are three vehicles in my family fleet. Two diesels (2003 Hyundai Terracan 2.9L, 2005 Seat Altea 1.9L) and electric 2022 Škoda Enyaq (80kWh battery, 4WD).
During this winter EV was the only one we had no problem with. Except when battery in the key suddenly died and few minor glitches that would constantly show warning lights for problems that were not there. In particular: Low voltage on 12V battery (checked it, it's perfectly within parameters) and "low screenwash fluid level" (also, almost full all the time). In fact , screenwash is the the biggest problem with this car, it uses A LOT of it. mostly due to automatic washing of headlights, I guess.
First time Hyundai refused to start (or more like started and then stalled few minutes later and refused to start again) I simply decided it was due to the fact it was not moving for few months and petrol stations were still selling summer diesel last time I filled it up. But then it happened again and again and now it's at the mechanic's potentially needing new fuel injectors.
Altea has other issues. It refused to start in -25C, and struggles a bit during -10C. It is due to glow plugs need to be replaced, I admit. It's central locking keeps freezing and I sometimes can't open drivers door (BTW, traditional door handles was in top10 reasons why we went with Škoda and not Tesla) and boot. But it's worst shortcoming is lack of 4WD. I live in rural area on a road with only two houses on it. It's at the bottom of priority list for snowplowing. We had sudden spike of temperatures over here in the Baltics a week ago (from -26C to +5C in just over 24h) and everything started to melt. And than cold with snow hit again before it dried. some mornings I struggle to move off my parking spot.
Does our electric car use more power during winter? YES. But so do my diesel cars. Mostly due to pre-heating/defrosting and driving through more resistive medium on more roll resistant tyres.
Do we regret buying an EV? absolutely NOT. It was great purchase.
Would we buy second EV? Yes, but looks like I'll have to wait for a while - EV market is not "diverse" enough yet. personally I would prefer european sized (eg. Ranger, Hilux, L200, Trooper) pick-up truck or 4wd car or smaller wanna-be SUV. But none are awailable right now. Most cars and small SUVs (especially on the more affordable end of spectrum with few bells and whistles) are 2WD and 4WD is only reserved for performance versions and/or more higher specked more expensive vehicles.
Speaking of towing, While in theory Terracan can tow heavier loads than Enyaq, at the moment both are somewhat limited by our licences. No one in the family has category BE, we all only have B.
Exactly, here we have no problems with EV's even down to -25C. They must do something different in the US.
A long time ago I owned an old BMW E34 525 TDS with 5-speed automatic transmission. This car was unbelievable. With more than 400,000 km-age with premium diesel, at temperatures under 15 °C this car started under three seconds. It was not a fuel-saving car. My usual city consumption was about 12,5 l/100 km - exactly the same as in the factory specification. Pretty good for an 11-year-old car with an autobus-style mileage. I had to pay the equivalent of 1,000 US dollars for transmission refurbishing and then this 1600 kg weighting 4,75 long car with diesel engine and automatic transmission made 0 - 100 km/h in less than 12 seconds. I loved this car and it served me more for the next 260,000 km before I destroyed it in a total crash (nobody was hurt). My very best car. 🤣
i have a 04 Passat Wagon 1.9TDi with 101hp and 367K km. original turbo still on it.
a full tank lasts me a month.
before i had a MPV SEAT Altea FR 2.0TDi 170Hp, and that thing was so fun to drive, 6 speed manual, sport suspension, bigger brakes, sport seats and a ton of space.
also a Golf mk4 1.9tdi 90hp and a Mercedes 300D turbo 150hp
all my cars so far have been diesels, and i love the torque and sound.
only my brothers Audi 80 (gas) 5 cylinder comes close to that, with its torque and beautiful sound.
he also has a VW T5 (bus) 5cyl. diesel, and that thing has all of the torque and some others.
the fact you guys dont have cool engines like 335d bmw 3.0 that with a remap will do 400ish hp and pulls like a train
Funnily enough they actually did get that exact car, though in the old E9x generation.
@@GoldenCroc really thats crazy you hear nothing about them over there
@@AlanowyShow It wasnt a big seller. I dont have the exact numbers but 335i of the same generation probably outsold them 10 to 1, if not more.
My mom used to have an 'ancient' VW golf diesel (1st or 2nd gen) and i remember those cold winter days. And a forever cranking engine in the morning 😂
My mom still wants a car like that again, and i do too
My daily drive is a 2010, 2 liter turbo diesel, Audi A3 cabriolet. Never had more fun driving.
I also have a tow hook but it is more to have a mounting point for the bike carrier.
Greetings from Czech Republic.
I drove a Opel Astra G Caravan 1.7 DTi and I bought it with 32922miles and I managed to get over 429210miles before the car catched fire due to electrical issue.
It already replaced 1 starter, 1 timing belt, 8 coil springs, one muffler, 3 batteries, 6 air and cabin filters, 2 diesel filters and driver seat due to side airbag issue. Thanks to GTL Diesel (Eco Diesel used in fork lifts and other machinery where they drive through open buildings and this allowed me to always pass the Emission inspections.
Currently I drive a 1999 Mercedes E-Class 220CDI with 382100 miles and also an Audi A6 C5 2.5TDI V6 and I'm getting close to 130.000miles on it. With gasoline cars, they require a bit more maintaince, they don't last that long and the 3 common gasoline types in my country are quite expensive but I'll be getting some newer E-Class with LPG (Liquified Gas) injection which would cost me 64cent per Liter and giving the Audi to my cousin since it has massage seats, heated mirrors, car radio which still works in my country and also I did ECO ECU Tuning on it where it consumes such an low amount of fuel that I just can drive the entire month with the 70L Diesel tank.
I used to drive a 3L Gasoline Mercedes ML (1gen) and I only had to run it on gasoline for 2minutes and then the LPG Controller switched to LPG System and cut off the gasoline pump. I actually was driving over 3 Months with the "low fuel" light turned on before I had to emergency start it with LPG Injectors turned on and I only filled it with 5.5galons of gasoline and then I drove it for 5 months till I ran out of gasoline again XD
I live in the US, east coast. Diesels are pretty common here because of longevity of service life. Because they regularly go past 300k miles, they make a lot of sense. I have a 3.0TDI touareg now and its only needed an EGR cooler replaced at 109k. Emissions intact and running strong. 240hp and 400ft/lb stock. 30ish average mpg in a very large SUV. Bulletproof 8 speed automatic and rwd biased AWD. Great for the snow in PA. newer diesels are also pretty good at starting below freezing but most people install coolant circulating heaters rather than stick on block heaters now. Just bought a frost heater for the touareg just to help warm it up quicker, not installed yet. The smaller displacement diesels do struggle with interior heat but i can say the 3.0 heats up fast, has good heat, operating temp within a mile of driving. Used to use a stick on one in my 81 rabbit, 1.6 diesel, 4 speed manual.
I own a BMW E46 318D, it has 114 hp from factory, and I tuned it to aprox 150 hp, I have a 2 litre 4 cyl engine with the stock turbo charger, with 63 litre of fuel I can go for 1000-1100 Km. The car is like 22 years old, I have never had engine problems with it, the only things I ever had to change are the things that go off, like brakes etc.. I had once that I had to change or fix multiple parts. We own it for like 10 years, and I have been driving it for 5, in 5 years I might have spent overall 2k euro for fixing stuff that broke. Its pretty reliable and I love it. We own 3 other gasoline cars, they are allright, and pretty fun to use, but they are pretty basic and old. We have a Skoda Fabia from 2002, Suzuki Alto from 2000 or 2002 and we have a Kia Sportage from 2020, but still I feel more fun from my BMW E46 and its a lot more fuel efficient and strong aswell.
Regularly towing a trailer with two horses + equipment and three passengers my Mercedes GLK 220 CDI. 2.1 liter diesel with twin turbo. Always feels confident and so much torque & power☀️
Diesel cars can legally tow heavier trailers (talking Aus) than petrol. The trick is the brakes & balance of the trailer. The mpg figures are often close to double that of petrol cars. Change oil & filters regularly & use injector cleaner additive every 6-8 tankfuls......sweet
I'm loving my FWD manual 1.7 turbo-diesel, 136 hp, 330 nm of torque (240 ft lb) on my Hyundai i40, which is basically the twin of a Sonata. In normal driving, outside cities, I get 42-45 mpg, 35 to 60 mph, depending on speed limits. On highway is around 33-35 mpg, at 85-90 mph speeds. It could be better, but the car weighs 3500 pounds alone. Obviously 0-60 is like 10s.
The kicker is the mileage, 195 000 miles, without any major issue (like issues with the head gasket, turbo or any engine internals). Just oil and filters change, some brake discs and pads when needed and that's it. Rarely, like in 50-80k miles, maybe a new radiator and a new accessories belt.
The main issue in my country that prevents us from maintaining our cars very well is the fact that the salary is about 5 times less than a US one, but the cost of cars and car parts is the same. And the fuel price is double compared to USA. I have a low end medium range salary and earn 750 USD monthly, where in US a similar position earns like 3500-4000 USD. If anything major breaks down, like the turbo, I would need to save up money for like 6 months to afford a 1200 USD repair, where in US you could do that from a month salary.
BMW 730d with 330hp, geeting 7l/100km consumption, I removed dpf and egr, and its amazing have over 450k km on it atm :) Had 745r v8 diesel with over 900nM of torquez that thing was pulling like a jet
I have towed with petrol and diesel. Small engine and bigger engine. Normal cars. Smaller car and bigger car. Works like a charm. No problem at all.
The trailer has to be a braked trailer above a specific weight. That is how they can get away with towing so much with a car without it trying to jackknife. the tow hitch has a brake master cylinder in it so any force going forward applies the brakes.
Suzuki samurai 1.9 turbodiesel and Skoda fabia 1.6TDI owner here, it's pretty simple, economy of use, if you go to a low cost station, a litre of diesel is around 1.30€, gasoline use to be around 1.50, and if you go to a regular station, raise prices of each 20-30cnts per litre
We have a VW t4, 2,5l 102ps. Its quite fun do drive it, you can go down to 1000rpm (900 is the idle). Normal crousing range is 1000-2500rpm. When the turbo kicks in at 1800 rpm its quit fast for such a big vehicle. We sleep in it, use it as a transprtvehicle, drive it as a daily. It reached the 500k km recently, and the engine runs like a new one. We would never discard it, its a part of our familie.
I'm a dedicated diesel driver, I drive an 1896 cc (~115.7 cubic inches) audi a3 from 2001, the PDTdi version (type 8L1, Maximum torque 310 Nm
Maximum power 96 kW, 131 HP). I'm a first owner, I've had cars of this and that kind, but I'm sticking with my little a3. Under mixed use, I measure it to consumed 5.65 litres (~1.5 USgallons) of diesel per 100 km (~62miles), could be less, but then I'd be annoyed with my own driving style, so that's at a dynamic pace, mostly obeying (trying to obey) the speed limit. With a tank (55 litres (~14,53USgallons) in the car) of gasoline I drive 900 Km (~560miles) most of the time, and I don't have an empty tank, but I don't take risks. When I did, I drove 1108 Km (~688,4miles) with a full tank in a relaxed driving style, but the car stopped about 25 meters (~82 feet) from the gas station :)
Maintenance is not too bad, it's a reliable piece, fully galvanized chassis, no sign of rust (yet).
Exept my first car (renault super 5) I always had diesel cars. I currently have a 2.7 l v6 biturbo and I really love it, has a lot of torque and the car is very quiet.
My Jeep is a 2018 Grand Cherokee Overland fitted with a 3.0l common rail diesel engine that puts out about 240HP and 429ftl-bs of torque. Compared to the 2010 Grand Cherokee I had before it its chalk and cheese. I've never had a problem with either of them and the first one did just over 180,000klms before I sold it and its still going. The Overland has about 139,000k;ms on it, last service was a biggie , decoke and valves and a belt so it was a bit more expensive than normal, $900 as opposed to $600 but service intervals are 20000klms apart. The vehicle is very comfortable, has about a 1200klm range and has enough power to safely pass semi's. Chrysler here in Oz did at one time sell the 300C here with the 3.0L diesel and I think a sports wagon but the hemi engine SRT's surpassed them. I'm very happy with diesel jeep and I am very disappointed that Jeep no longer have a diesel engined version in there line up any more.
New diesel Audi A3 owner here, 1.6L 116hp. 47-48 mpg, oil change every 16k miles, keeping a 2000 miles/month track. Yes, I do have the Adblue contraption (15€ for a full tank of that magical liquid every 8k miles) and DPF to keep exhaust at a minimum, but maintenance per se on modern cars is not a burning moneypit. Diesels should be used on long distances and should be on a strict maintenance schedule to keep them problem safe and reliable for many, many years.
Ford Focus Titanium hatchbacks had a 2 Litre turbo diesel (120Kw power and 340nm torque) from 2012 until 2017 here in Australia, then they changed to a Ford Focus Trend hatchbacks with a 1.5 Litre turbo petrol engine (132Kw power and 240nm torque)
I used to own a 1988 Volvo 740 Turbodiesel. It had a 2.4 Inline 6 engine made by VW. The tax on it was about 700 euros per year so it really wasnt cost effective. But if you would get a station wagon with a diesel engine you can register it as a van. This requires (in most cases) the removal of the backseats or you will have to make it a 2+2 arrangement, so you will replace the original seats with some foldable or reclining setup. If its registered as a van it will have pretty minimal taxes and then it becomes cheaper than a gasoline car.
To change an EGR valve on a 2009 Audi A4 2.7 TDI, i was quoted over €1000. Mind you, the EGR valve is held in by 3 screws and located at the top-front of the engine. Why should it cost so much? The EGR valve didn't even cost 1/10th of the quoted price.
In 2012 I bought a brand new Peugeot 207 Outdoor Touring. 1.6liter turbo diesel with 6 speed manual transmission. Fantastic car. 4.5liters/100km. Peak torque at 1700rpm. Reliable, economical and fun to drive. Wish I still had it.
I’ve got a Toyota Yaris 1.4 D4D. It’s a 2005 mk1. It’s a hatchback version of your Toyota Echo. Mine has got a 1.4 turbo diesel. It’s got a new intake and exhaust and pulls like a train!
I managed to snag me a nice lease on a 2016 Jag F-Pace diesel here in US when they first came out (2017 model). Sucks I couldn't buy it out at the end of the lease as some unexpected expenses piled in. I loved that car. It was good looking, comfy, nicely equipped (even for the very base model), and would still get 30+ mpg on the highway at 80 mph. Averaged 32mpg on combined (65% city/35% highway). Got as high as 41mpg in absolute hypermiling eco mode drive.
I drive an 22 year old MB E 320 Cdi with 546.000 km on the clock.
It have over 200hp but dont drink over 6l per 100km.
We use Adblue in trucks and Buses the savings on fuel consumption is between 10 to 20% depending on weight of vehicle.
I drove 2 different ML270s for the winter and my god were they fun, the torque and 4WD are a very fun combo
My daily car is 3D Yaris 2012 1.4 D4D - 66kW, 210nm. It's one of the simplest modern turbocharged diesel engine and the last of the kind for sure. It has just enough power for its low curb weight. It's super reliable and it's quite ok to drive on highway every day with 6 speed manual. You can reach 60-70 (british)mpg.
I've got a BMW 420d R36 Grancoupe
Msport..2 liter turbo..Its 2016 car but a beast and highly economical great on Irish roads..
I have driven a mix of petrol and diesel cars, often the same model, here in the UK (mostly Nissan due to being in the North East where the factory is). You notice the torque makes them feel much stronger than the numbers seggest.
A Nissan Note (Versa Note in the US) I had was the biggest difference between petrol and diesel. Drove the 1.2 supercharged petrol (odd in its self) was rated at 112bhp and it was as gutless as it sounds, needing to drop gears regularly up hill and only getting about 42 imp mpg (34 US mpg). The diesel was a 1.5 turbo only rated at 90bhp and was a rocket ship in comparison, no need to drop gears and did 65 imp mpg (54 US mpg) easily, more was possible. It was a no brainer. Added benefit was the petrol got blown about on the motorway, the anvile in the nose of the diesel kept it planted, the diesel was a shockingly quick and quiet cruiser for the size and price where as the petrol was shockingly bad considering it was literally the same model and grade.
Hybrids have caught up to diesel recently though, at least for me. Currently have a Hyundai Tuscon Hybrid, mpg is similar to my old Nissan Qashqai (rouge sport) diesel CVT, (42 imp mpg vs 46 imp mpg respectively with a weight penalty, 1800kg vs 1600kg in kerb weight) but the hybrid has the torque from the motors low down and petrol power as a bonus (223bhp vs 130bhp but 260 lbft vs 236 lbft). Both being 1.6 litre engines shows how similar hybrid and diesel are currently.
I'm a proud owner of your beloved Škoda. I have a 2013 mk. 3 Octavia Wagon with 2.0TDI diesel. Owning it for 3 years now I can say that with proper maintenance the diesel can be very reliable. I've done about 80k miles on it so far and never had an engine issue related to any expensive parts whatsoever. The fuel economy is great, but I'd say you have to drive a lot daily, not short routes. I am able to do 39MPH around the city and 45MPG on the highway. Funny is, that you admire diesel cars in Europe and we are in love with big American V8 gas cars here :D Anyway love your vids and work
I have the most reliable car ever. Octavia mk2 with 1,9 tdi. 2208, 450000km driven, no problems. Just normal service. Comsumpiton of last year was 5,15 l/100 km. for US people: Octavia 2 is technically same as VW Golf V.
One notable difference in maintenance is the price of the diesel's Dual Mass Flywheel, which is consumable because it is also a damper for the highly vibrating/torque engine😂
When a clutch dies on a petrol car, the car just needs a clutch kit. On a diesel, when a clutch dies, it makes sense to buy the Dual Mass Flywheel & change it also. Otherwise, when it needs replaced, you've to pay for the gearbox to be removed again, plus the price is roughly 2x, maybe 3x more when having to include the Dual Mass Flywheel.
But not having to buy spark plugs during every service could counter it😂
Most older diesel cars, like VW Group 1.9 TDI, Volvo 5-cylinder diesels, Mercedes inline 4, 5, 6, and BMW inline 6, were essentially million-kilometer cars with regular maintenance. Currently, I have a 2007 Mercedes E220 CDI 2.2, and during longer journeys, it's possible to squeeze out over 55 mpg. The biggest issues are air suspension and sensors. The engine, gearbox, and even the suspension are quite solid for a 500k km car.
My last car. A bmw f11 530d had it tuned to 330hp. I sold it when it had over 300.000 miles on it. Never had any issues with it. Must say I had the egr valve closed. When doing that, you will avoid a lot of problems. Now I have I bmw 640d gran coupe, tuned to 421hp and 585 ft lb. Perfect daily that can do over 40 miles pr gallon 😊
I daily a Land Rover Freelander 1 Td4 2.0L from 2004. It has the trusty turbodiesel M47 engine from BMW. The engine itself is a tank, it doesn't die and works like a charm. I can idle in 5th gear just fine and it won't die and it doesn't even get jerky. Since the car is a permanent 4x4, the fuel economy takes a hit indeed, but still hitting 6.5% (36 MPG) on longer trips.
I did a trip for New Years to Switzerland from Croatia and back...around 2200km (1360m) to Zurich and then a daytrip to Bern and Thun. I've got a Ford Mondeo wagon 2.0 Tdci 140hp (it's like the Fusion in the US but earlier generation 2007-2014) and it did 5.7L/100km ( around 41 MPG US) at around 110kph or 65mph average speed (100% highway which is mostly 130kph/80mph but there's a bunch of tunnels that limit you to 80kph/50mph that's why the average is lower)...That's the main selling point for us Europeans, the economy. The autonomy is also cool, on one tank you can go about 1000km (630m) before the gas light lights up, and that's with AC or/and heated seats on full blast. Now, if you go smaller like a Focus with the same engine you'd be doing 3.7/100km (that's 63mpg US) 👀 ...My Mondeo is 11 years old and I had it for 5 years, it never skipped a beat (knock on wood)...as for it costing more to service...well...I've been lucky not to have faults with my EGR or DPF so I've just been doing regular services oil, filters (brakes, tires). My last bill pre-New Years was a little bit more at around 1200€ because modern diesels have clutches with DMF's (dualmass flywheel) to keep vibrations at bay and they usually last for about 160 000km (100 000m) well mine's done 240 000km (150 000m) and it was just time, I didn't want to risk the clutch failing on me so far from home....but yea...if you treat your diesel right (like let the DPF do its regen) then diesels shouldn't be more expensive to run than a gasoline car, while you reap the benefits of more Nm and better fuel economy and autonomy...I'm team diesel, altho I do miss the almost complete silence of a gas engine idling 👀😂
I own 2004 Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI here in South Africa, it's very reliable and very light on Diesel. Brilliant Wagon. And it have 537 000km on the clock 😊. Diesels are popular here in South Africa too.
537 000! yowza that's hefty number by any standards 👍
@IWrocker I drive one too, mine is Alfa Romeo 159 SW Ti 2.4JTDm Q-Tronic :) my beauty, tune to approx 520hp...
I daily drive a 1997 Hoden Rodeo four wheel drive ute (which is actually a rebadged Isuzu) with a 2.8 litre, 4 cylinder turbo diesel and a 5 speed manual gearbox. Because it is an Isuzu engine it is virtually indestructible. A few years ago I actually had it put on a dyno and it produced 51kW (around 68hp). Even with such low power it still has fairly decent acceleration and can get up to 100 km/h quite easily because of the torque.
@iwrocker
A few notes to help US/EU/UK car folks understand -
1. MPG, miles per gallon US gallons are 3.78l, UK gallons are 4.55l, so multiply the US mpg by 1.2 to get UK mpg, multiply US mpg by 0.83 to get UK mpg.
2. Euro 6 diesels are very clean if maintained properly, Euro 5 diesels are also ok, but still prefer to be driven for long distances
3. Modern turbo diesels are complicated due to the performance requirements people expect and the emissions standards
4. Yes, some people bypass the DPF in older diesels and the poorly done ones are very dirty and overfull resulting in lots of black smoke, I believe you call it rolling coal
5. Yes, modern 2.0 TDI from VW/Audi etc can get 60-70mpg (UK) on a long journey, which is 48-56 US mpg.
6. We have the option of Shell V Power which is a gas-to-liquid (synthetic) diesel which burns a lot cleaner and I've never had any issues with the DP filter.
Question for y'all - why are your gallons smaller?
I own a VW Golf V 1.9 TDI, it has 303.000 km on it and it works just fine. Is a 15 years ilf car, in the last 7 years I've changed the distribution kit and last year I paid about 500 Euro for turbine repairs plus oil and filters. Also i had to do some intervantion on the paint and do the threshold of the car because it got rusty. But that's mainly all. Not but and not expensive for maintenance. On the long commute I get a diesel usage of 4.1/4.3 Liters/100 km and down town I am somehere around 6 L/100 km. I do also own an electric car but for the long trips the diesel is more fun to ride. My wife drives it daily and is not an automatic. Smile😊😊😊
I have a VW Passat tdi as my daily driver & i love it. It's comfortable on long drives & will get 42-45mpg. I only need to add DEF every 8k miles or so
I've only had 1 non-diesel car. As someone who lives in the states, that's pretty rare. I've had an '81 Rabbit Diesel, an '01 Golf TDI, a '15 Golf TDI, and my wife has a '14 Beetle TDI. I can speak from experience that they are extremely durable, and maintenance is less. I bought my '01 Golf TDI in '01 brand new and drove it for 18 years. I put just shy of 400K miles on it, and it still ran flawlessly. It still had the original engine, drivetrain, turbo, etc. 1 clutch, alternator, AC compressor, heater core - normal stuff for an 18 year old car, but it always started and ran. I sold it to a guy who flew down from Michigan to Orlando and drove it home. Last I talked to him, it had 450K miles on it. It's the most durable car I've ever seen, bar none. It's a shame that they never really took off here, and when VW had the diesel scandal, it really just sealed the fate of the engine here. Too bad.
I drive a 2015 Ford Fiesta 1.5 TDCi and it's great. 54 MPG, extremely reliable, Euro 6 compliant without needing AdBlue and it drives very nice. 125 hp / 350 nM (258 ft lb).
Depends though. I had a Jetta TDI but the downside is when its freezing outside it will never get hot in the cabin.
After that had a Mk7 golf with a 1.8 turbo manual and got 44mpg highway.
Diesel powered cars are very popular in here in Germany, both for privat and business use. Companies cars are almost 100% diesel powered. I personally am driving my second diesel car. My first was a 2004 Volkswagen Passat Wagon 1.9 liter TDI (Turbo Diesel) with 130 HP and about 390Nm torque. I put about 300000km on the car. I achieved an average mileage of 6.7 liters/100km =35.1mpg. It was very reliable and needed only standard maintance (air/oil filter changes, oil changes at 30000km, brake pads and discs). I am now driving an 2015 Opel Insignia Sports Tourer wagon with a 2.0 liter turbodiesel with 170 HP and 400NM torque. I currently put about 158000km on it. It averages 6.5 liters/100km = 36.18 mpg. The Opel need standard maintenance, like the Volkswagon. I commuted about 150km per day for many years. I never had any major issues. Both diesels started without problems on very cold days. The torque came in very handy when passing trucks or tractors on country roads. I saved alot of money on maintenance und fuel costs. If these cars had similiarly powered gasoline engines boht fuel costs and maintenance costs would have been much higher. Gasoline engines require much more maintenance than diesels. You must replace spark plugs in certain intervals. Glow plugs in diesels last forever. The maintenance intervals for gas engines are much shorter than for diesels.
I got 2013 BMW with 1.6L turbo diesel. I can lower consumption to less than 4.5L/100km(1,18 gallons, which gives about 2 gallons per 100 miles or so?, on highway speeds 20% more consumption which still is steal) which is insane. In previous gas car (merc c class) it was hard to drop below 7L/100km, so it is huge improvement.
Loved my volvo xc60 D5, its perfect family suv
I personally drive a 15 Skoda Oktavia III (5E) Combi with 110kw (150hp) 2.0 TDI and 6MT. It might not be a speed demon, but it's still a fun car with the diesel torque.
I can even get a fixed trailer hitch that I could tow 2t with.
The only experience I have with petrol are lawn mowers, as my driving school had diesels, and I shared my dad's 09 VW Caddy 2K 1.9 TDI before I got the Oktavia from my mum.
Well i own a Skoda Octavia RS 4x4 TDI from 12/2018 with 135KW and a DCT. It is efficient even sporty and can pull up to 2 ton Trailer. i Love it.
I learned to drive in and currently daily drive a diesel car. they're absolutely stout so long as you keep on top of your basic maintenance and don't let minor faults compound on them. My current car, a 2014 Kia Cee'd 1.6CRDi, has just a touch over 209,000 miles on it, the engine's original to the vehicle and it's still runs like a top. slight timing chain rattle on cold start but that's the worst mechanical fault it's got so far. Everything else is mint!!
It surprises me that smaller diesel engine cars aren't really that common in the USA owing to how well they handle high mileage. don't get me wrong, gasoline engines with proper maintenance can absolutely do tonnes of miles, but diesel engines seem to have a knack for just eating mileage like it's nothing while going wrong a lot less frequently... Although it's safe to say they do have ways and means of going with pizazz at times if, say, an injector sticks open and you end up with a hole in a piston!
One of the biggest plus of a Diesel specialy in Germany is, that you need way less fuel if you floor it on the autobahn. Reason is that most gasoline engines have to put extra fuel in the combustion chamber to cool it down on high load because the tempertur of burning the fuel is around 900c, diesel burn around 500-600c and have mostly an bigger displacment. 100 PS Gasoline Engines have around 1L displacment and diesel around 1.5 L. Specialy those small gasoline engines will swallow gas if you drive them sporty.
for comparision Audi A6 V6 Diesel with 286 PS will have a consumption around 11L / 100km while driveing between 220-270kmh
Ford Focus with around 120 Ps 1l 3 cylinder gasoline 11L V-max 190 kmh.