Original Xbox Clock Capacitor Removal: Remove It B
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2013
- ***NOTE** Xboxs with version 1.6 motherboards CANNOT do this and do not have to look for it either. Only other versions.
If you are experiencing trouble with your xbox resetting or other problems related to clock settings than this is something you should do on your xbox right away.Even if it is working properly you should inspect and remove this component asap.
One very good thing to do would also be to replace any and all other leaky caps on the board when you open it up clean out the disk drive and lubricate it. Put new fresh thermal compound on the cpu and gpu and REMOVE the clock capacitor located in the bottom left corner near the controller ports. It is a capacitor marked 2.5v 1uf and is the root of the lack of the clock time working in your xbox. Although this could be replaced and even modified to fit a coin cell battery, the first thing should be to remove this old cap from the board.
After removing the cap, what will happen? The answer is you will not notice any change from before except that every time you start up your system it will say to input the date and time, something the system does already as it is.
What happens if I leave it in? you will risk having the leaky acid eat through your motherboard and destroy the system eventually
What do I do if I see leaky acid or white/green color liquid around the capacitor? First remove the capacitor (2 ways shown in the video) then, using a q-tip with some Vinegar or Lemon Juice on the end, wipe around the affected area several times and let dry. After, test the system. If everything works out ok then you are set, if things are not changing than you may have a couple of eaten traces and will need to patch them.
Hopefully this will help you with keeping your xbox running a bit smoother for a little bit longer.
Big thank you to iDavidP for mentioning this subject as it can be easily forgotten and an unknown secret killer that destroys your xbox. - Hry
For anyone still trying to do this, it isn’t mentioned what size Torx bits to use in the video. You need to use a T20 for the bigger screws and a T10 for a couple inside.
Thanks
Thanks boss
you can use a t9 also
Hard drive screws are t15 also if u wanna upgrade the ssd
@@Rcxd2009 Never use the wrong sized bit, you have a serious risk of stripping the screws
"make sure you remove it carefully by gently rocking it back and forth" *violently shakes capacitor*
I randomly stumbled upon this video today and I'm glad I did. Seeing as this was the first time I had ever heard of this problem I searched youtube to validate what this video shows. My capacitor had leaked all over the motherboard. I removed the capacitor and cleaned up the mess with vinegar as suggested and it worked great. My xbox still operates as it should without the capacitor. My system is stock in case anyone is curious. Thank you lukemorse1 for the video! Cleaning the tip before I flood the hole was great advice by the way :P
Remove Clock Capacitor to stop it from dying, Install Flux Capacitor to travel through time.
Install a Flux Capacitor so when you lose to your friend at Halo, you can just travel back in time and cut his controller cable...
ElectricVideos I'd rather just cut his jugular. Way more effective.
I guess you COULD add blades to an Xbox controller so you could cut people's jugulars...
+ElectricVideos Shit, while i'm at it, might as well play some Halo 2 Online haha.
can still do that
Thanks for your repair videos. Watching these I've learned things like what capacitors are and how to replace them. I had an old tv from about 10 years ago, and your videos gave me confidence to repair it. I found 4 bad caps, got them off eBay and fixed a TV for under $4! You helped save another TV.
Thank you Luke for saving (another) system of mine, or at least giving it longer life!
Your video's are really helping alot, thanks again!
Amazing video man, you have a pretty nice voice & volume, very clear & easy to undestand!
HOARDER!
No, actually old CD- or DVD based consoles, you really should keep a few of them, helps with repairs.
Hey man, thanks. I took my Xbox apart to do a regular clean for dust after I watched this and one of the contact's on the clock cap was severed clean from acid corrosion. Luckily it didn't ruin the mobo. I advise everyone still holding on to their Xbox to do this but be careful and make sure you cut the right cap.
Hey, the last few times I turned on my favorite xbox that used to work perfectly, it boots up with the logo, loads a bit, then puts up a full screen wall of text about some error. That has nothing to do with this clock capacitor, does it? Is there some common reason that it would do that?
If you boot it up, see what number it has in the top right (e.g 07) and look it up to see what it is. Cleaning the capacitor is a good idea wether your xbox is malfunctioning or not.
A 7 year too late response
Thanks for this ! I've had my Xbox since a year after launch (it was serviced by Microsoft and the disc drive was changed to a Samsung) and had never got the nerve to open it up.
I took it apart today to remove the clock capacitor and killed two birds with one stone by taking the disc drive apart and cleaning the drive belt.
Now the capacitor is gone and the board is clean(ish) and this got me thirsty for more. Thinking of doing a drive update with bootable apps and all.
17 years ago I remember reading unofficial Xbox Magazines with my mate and we were both in awe at how awesome mods looked. We ended up adding a small LED to the controller plug, but never anything like opening the actual console. Cheers !
I just performed this capacitor removal (the quick rip off method) and it worked like a charm. I referenced this video twice just to be sure I remove the right one. I noticed some discoloration on the m/b so I think I got to it just in time (in a relative 6 months-1 year span). With XBMC constantly updating the time for me there's little need for it! Thanks a lot, Luke! Now, to convince my Oxbox friends to do the same...
awesome luke! we need WAY more original xbox repair videos :D:D thanks!
O man great vid luke. Seeing this xbox brings me memories when I first bought a mid chip and modded it by myself lol, was a great moment for me with this huge vcr of a console lol.
I still cant figure out why Microsoft covered half the power supply in that white gluey shit I thought the caps were leaking when I first opened mine.
Dan Stokoe The white stuff is for heat distribution. The capacitors dry up and stop working the hotter they get while being used. The white glue stuff makes sure it's distributed to others (and usually a heatsink, which takes the heat off other components). What they are doing there is just trying to make it work longer.
No heatsink from what i remember just white stuff sorta like plastic. Interesting idea but i cant see how it would work or be in any way efficient
Dan Stokoe I'm not an expert in electronics-I fix stuff when it breaks and clean the stuff I have, that's about it, but I have watched EEVBlog and other electronics channels and they have mentioned that it's either for vibration dampening, heat distribution, or both. Not sure what it is, but that's what it's supposedly for.
Im the same as you I fix stuff but wouldnt call myself an electronics expert never seen it in any other console newer or older its an odd thing to see for the first time when I first saw mine I thought the caps were spewing white electrolyte
Dan Stokoe Same. I've built a PC (AKA "Buy parts, put part a in slot b, repeat, plug wire in, test, repeat") but that's as far as I go other than looking and fixing and cleaning PCs and consoles. (And my fixes are pretty simple. I don't use any tools to find what's broken other than seeing visually what's wrong (or going on google when that fails), then take the broken part, desolder, resolder.) Anyways, so far, I think the only thing I've seen that stuff in is the original Xbox. There might have been something else, but all I could think of it being in is a TV that the guy from EEVBlog was fixing. I might have to look into what that stuff is...I've seen a rubbery glue used in a cheap MP3 player, but that was so their terrible soldering job didn't come loose (which it did anyways).
Thanks for the video glad i did it when i did! Looked like it had just started to leak. Thanks again!
I now need to open two old xboxes. Excellent video Luke.
Thanks man, I always wondered how to replace/remove it!
Thanks for showing! :)
Btw for Versions 1.1 - 1.5 the Capacitor has C7G2 and C7G3 beneath it, not C7G1
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I took my xbox apart (haven't used in a while), and I barely touched the capacitor and one leg was dissolved the other leg was starting to go as well, I removed it and cleaned the affected area with some diluted peroxide and dried it clean, no damage on the MB, caught it just in time.
I have a spare XBOX with gfx output issue which I hope to repair one day, and that one was just fine, but I removed the capacitor anyway. Both capacitors were smaller.
Got my cap out today, luckily it hadn't started leaking but good to know its gone. Thanks Luke.
Still saving OG Xboxs nearly 9 years later. Thanks! The capacitor in my Xbox had leaked heaps, surprised it still works, but thankful that it does. I also use Xemu to emulate, but it's still quite imperfect in many games, so using the original is still the best.
Was your's like solid white leakage because mine has some of that i am not sure how to remove it
@@GamingCraftTeam I think it was. From memory I used baking soda mixed with a bit of water to make a paste, and used a cotton bud to run that around. Look around, there will be other videos explaining how to clean
yeah because my one has a large capacitor that measures about 3cm which a solid thumb nail of white acid holding it from falling over it's titled at 95 degrees@@greenchillify
Thanks for the video Luke! Thanks for adding that this isn't applicable for a revision 1.6 xbox as that is the one I have. Good to know either way!
Hi there, thank you for this. CZcams suggested this video to me and this is the first time learning of a problem with the Xbox clock capacitor. I have 4 Xbox's, I should probably look through these! I'd like to learn how to solder so I can remove these properly. lol Thank you again!
Thanks for the tip on this, Luke. I actually have another question about an Xbox issue I've been having: when playing the system, the screen tends to flicker when something else in my house turns on (ie: air conditioning, refrigerator.) I'm a bit concerned about it but I'm not sure if it's a capacitor or a power supply issue. Would you have any ideas on what could cause this? Thanks as always for your awesome videos, man!
Great video, I did this mod, it's easy to do and stops the console from being a ticking time bomb that will go off one day.
I had very little acid leakage out of v1.2 Xbox. I burst open the capacitor once removed and it was odd smell from the acid inside, kinda fruity and sweet. Cleaned up the board just incase and washed the metallic tray the components sit inside. The Drive on mine is a Samsung, I am determined to keep this one in top condition as they are the best drives.
Great guide! I pulled the capacitor out of my the pc case Xbox 1.4*. It was a Nichicon cap with a plastic bottom cover and looked like new. I also checked my spare machine, and it was a horrible mess (1.0 model, bought at release). Anyway, thanks a bunch!
*I love big fans.
Many thanks for this video. I've checked my 3 modded Xboxes and found one with a leaking clock capacitor. Thankfully there was only superficial damage to the motherboard..
And thanks for the heads up, I have not heard about this cap issue with the Xbox one errr old Xbox.
Thanks for subtitling this video!!
I was wondering why my old XOBX console didn't properly keep track of time anymore... Thanks for the info. :)
Nice one Luke.
Will take a look at this on my 2002 XB1 over the next week or so.
I have previously opened my Xbox [few years back to examine the DVD drive].
Its just as I remembered, a bit of a jumble of wires inside eh [much like a PC] lol
Great Video as always thanks Luke for teaching me more ^^
Very nice tip Luke..i have 3 myself love lan parties unreal tournement. Thanks only had 1 with this board was leaking but no damage I went ahead an neutralize it ! Thanks man
Thanks Luke! Another Xbox here saved from potential damage after watching this vid. I had sticky stuff all over that area of the board ;^).
Thx for the vid,it helped me alot.
Guess i was one of the lucky ones because i saw no damage but decided to remove it anyway.
Better safe than sorry.
Yeah Luke definitely doesn't hoard. It's clearly systematic collecting and/or restoring, and that's constructive and very admirable.
XD guess you could say it was a ticking time bomb
Great video man. I doubt I am going to be ripping my mint Halo xbox open anytime soon. But this is defiantly good to know.
I've got 2 Xbox consoles, one original, one soft-modded (broken drive). I think both my Xbox consoles are older than the 1.6 motherboard, so I'm definitely going to try this! My non-modded one, however, has this weird issue where it powers itself on (just on, not off) at random times. I heard this could be because of corrosion on the motherboard - could it be that this capacitor has started leaking and is causing that problem, or is it something else entirely? Also, when you say that it won't store time when you turn it off after removing this capacitor, do you mean it won't store the time at all, or only if you unplug it? (Mine's mostly plugged in, as I still use it for music a lot). Thanks for all the great vids so far, they've helped me keep my modest collection in good shape!
cool saved my xbox a while ago thanks for this.
thanks i just removed mine today was fine but didn't want the thing too break down , love all consoles big retro fan
thanks for the tip on the capacitor. very helpful
off topic but is there any hard off vids in the upcoming future :)
Good vid. Just be aware that the chip that keeps the time draws WAY more current than normal clock circuits, so a coin cell battery won't be much use as an alternative. Apparently a CR2032 type battery would only last about 60 days.
This video helped me out I have a Version 1.0 xbox that is softmodded and it leak and pucked alot and the shrink plastic graphic on the side to tell '-' went black. what I may do is replace it with a nichicon cap that is High Quality. The odd thing is all the traces are still shiny and the cap before removed was still holding a charge. What I may do eventually on mine is a total recap of the motherboard with high quality caps.
damn, I'm just trying to remove the ribbon and power cable and they're really jammed in there. You make it look so easy!
Edit: Done! and it works great! thank you for the tutorial.
Im thankful i found this video. The capacitor in mine was i a pretty bad state. Already had leaked some acid around it. I snapped that shit out of the MB and cleaned it up a bit. I feel like i saved it at the last moment.
Thanks to Something Awful I found the link to this video and did your super simple mod. Far as I can tell there was no acid from my 02 Mexico built model, though there was a little liquid that came out when I got that sucker out of there. I plugged in my universal component cable into my HDTV and it all works fine. So now I can happily play Silent Hill 2 without worry. Other than the PITA of setting it up.
Thanks for this video, If I hadn't clicked on this video by accident, I wouldn't have known about this problem and my Xbox would probably be dead now (and it would be even worse because I would lose all my SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, NES, GameBoy, PS1, and Xbox saves).
merci merci cette aide a sauvé ma console (le capacitor fuyait) !!! thanks thanks this help saved my console (the capacitor was leaking) XBOX V1.3 05/2003.........
Nice, you got yourself a v1.0 Xbox as designated by the fan on the gpu
Also, the capacitor is 1 Farad, not 1 microfarad. Anyone who wants replace, rather than just remove, take note! For those alarmed about him yanking the cap out, when I did mine, the solder was so hard (from the leakage leaching the lead out is my guess) that I couldn't melt the solder! So you may have to yank it out anyway. Mine snapped off quite easily...
Thanks from France man, my old xbox works better now ;)
Thank you for your time and help =)
Eeek you destroyed your warranty - lol
Did not know about this one, have not actually turned my original XBox on for a while, might have to have a look. It has already been opened ages ago to add a hardware mod (that did not work).
My solder work has improved I made up four cartridge boards with EPROMs for my new game last night :) See you have inspired my confidence that I can at least attempt some of this stuff.
Plus I do have the bits for this one - haven't been able to get bits for SNES/NES.
Thanks for the tip Luke, I think I will attempt this soon :) and and pre-save my xbox from a random death :D
For acid leaks you should use sodium bicarbonate/baking soda, leave it exposed on the board for about 5 minutes then use Isopropanol alcohol (IPA) after to clean that up, the bicarb will stop any acidic chemical reaction that may have penetrated below the traces into the PCB fabrication and stop any additional damage.
Boards in the 1980's and early 90's are easy to replace any damaged traces, more modern hardware is a little more difficult to replace traces on depending on the trace route and the number of layers damaged.
I use this method on Amiga hardware and it works every time.
Whoa. Good to know Lukester!! Thanks.
hey luke, have you though about what your going to do if the hard drives die. i had one drive die on me and im not sure what im going to do, it was a softmod but i didn't backup the drive key, so i think my only option would be to find a modchip and install it. although now that ide drives are harder to find i worry about being able to find a replacement and if i should look into replacing it with a compact flash card or similar device. would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.
WORKED my xbox is 2002 same name for cap... cheers I think.. Or do you think making it go back and forth causes it to leak in the first place.?
Hello Luke, is there any other console in which you should remove the capacitor?
Thanks alot, keep up the neat videos!
the tg16 cd uses a cap though it shouldnt be bad its short and stubby i think
Hey Dude, Great Vid! Thanks. Wondering if you had any insite, My Xbox is not playing games. It just pop up a message saying to contact service center. Someone suggested changing the Clock Cap. Not sure its going to make any difference. Any suggestions as to cause of fault? All I can find on google is Service Numbers for crappy Mircosoft!
i have a couple xboxes that show´s some fixed weird dots on the screen do you think it its the caps and the clock? thanks for the video luke
i own an original xbox1 for seven years. will remove the clock capacitor @ weekend. thank´s for the tip :)
Luke's not a Hoarder, he's an enthusiast
indeed always make sure your tips are clean before you flood the hole. :P loving the classic game repair 'porn' :P great video as always keep up the awesome job! ^^
hey mr luke my gf and I were watching and she wants to see u plug the xbox back in and play it. I told her u were the best. also does the ps2 slim have any long term issues.
great video ,,keep up the great work!!
It's useful to check the date your Xbox was manufactured on the bottom. V 1.6 consoles manufactured in 2004 and on don't have clock capacitors in them. Something to think about if you're buying an Xbox or just need to clean it
I'm surprised that the hard drives in all of these units aren't dead by now. Hard drives usually don't last more than 10 years.
PotbellyPunch depends on use doesn't it? Besides you can easiily softmod it with a memory card, splinter cell or mech assault and put in a bigger hdd easily.
The voltage label on the cap is just to relay the max voltage. You can run anything over 2.5V and it will be fine.
Jason Georgievski So if I have a 16v 470µF capacitor, it'll be good enough? I have two of them and a 1000µF 10v one, but the 16v one seems to fit better. For now, I'll clean the board and keep it open.
as long as the Capacitance is the same voltage doesn't matter as long as the rating is above the stock value
thanks luke!, i removed mine.. it was starting to leak.. i put it some vinegar and done!!
excellent Luke! thanks for the tip! i love my xbox thats the one i play the most.. also i have another 2 xboxes haha thanks!
I have a Chihiro mobo which this happened to, had no idea it was for the timekeeper circuit though. The Chihiro baseboard has a similar cap that should be removed and again won't affect the system.
Your voice reminds of Sonic or at least someone on the TeamFourStar crew and I have absolutely no idea why LMAO
Do you need to use caution when working around the power supply of the XBOX? Is there the risk of a shock hazard from a charge stored in one of the power supply's caps? OR is the treat neutralized by simply unplugging the unit?
nice vid luke! thanx for the info
Thanks so much my capacitor hasn't leaked so I removed it so no damage done thanks alot
good video, would subscribe but already have a few tech guys on my list.
I have one since 2004 and he's still works fine with that capacitor...
Because Microsoft fixed the Capacitor issue starting in April 2004.
Don't worry about people calling you a hoarder. I have 3 xboxes and 2 PS2's myself. Can you do a video on drive maintenance and repairs? my original DVD drive for my crystal xbox shit the bed and while I did manage to replace it with another, I'd like to see if repairing the DVD drive in question would be possible. and Also: have you softmodded any of your xboxes?
Hey luke if you backup the eeprom as well you can always make a new hdd for your xbox as well...its easier to do while the original hdd is still working...if not you'll need to use a hardware eeprom reader!
Fun fact I got my original Xbox for Christmas of 2004 never touched it never opened it it still works I have no idea the clock capacitor is leaking or not well I'm glad to see that my Xbox still work almost 20 years later cuz it's 2023
Excellent video thanks
Thanks Luke i got the cap out just in time. It started to leek a little bit.
Hey Luke, how are u? If you don't mind me asking... Is this leaking-caps issue something you will just get sooner or later, or anything you can actually avoid?
I ask because I have alot of old systems (SEGA Saturn, PSone, PS2 etc) and I don't feel like I have the basic skills to rip them open and have a look. Also, it's getting harder and harder to find trusty people to send old consoles to, in order to have them checked/repaired. They all seem to work fine but who knows what's going on inside.
Epic line of the week "what you can do here is flood the hole" XD
one thing to note about the UK and early revisions of these XBoxes is that the GPU thermal compound is a thermal glue... I learned the hard way that not heating the heatsink up before removing it can trash the GPU.. I was fixing a faulty XBox that had overheating issues and a failed hard drive, and when it came to removing the heatsink for the GPU, I was careful with it... but because it was stubborn, i did what most would do thinking it was just solidified thermal compond (remember the old socket 478 intel processors in PCs??? that type of stuck!!) and gave it a light twist... it came free with the top half of the GPU die, which meant it was completely screwed unless I could find a GPU to reball to it... not gonna happen, those GPUs are rarely seen outside of a console!! I did attempt to use an NV-17 GPU to replace it... and it sorta worked... I got video, but it was full of artifacts and errors... then the power sections failed on the GPU VRM... safe to say that a GF MX420/440SE GPU will not cut it!
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But wouldn't this make the xbox lose its time settings whenever its switched on after being unplugged for any amount of time?? Thanks for the video Luke :)
Just saw this video, my Xbox is my main emulation machine for 8 and 16 bit systems and I've been actively playing it since 2003 or so
I'm absolutely terrible at anything electronics, this video got me worried though what are the chances my system will break if I don't do this? And if by chance this capacitor does leak can it be fixed/cleaned?
Also my system is hard modded so I dunno if that affects anything, I don't even know what the mod chip looks like or where on the mob it's placed
just tried this
My XBOX is completely corroded i was going to do this and maybe fix my power button
but then i found out that it looked sort of bubbly well there goes my XBOX great video btw
22Mins in: FYI, applying a capacitor that is higher voltage makes absolutely no difference so even if the cap "looks" like it is 5v but is actually a 2.5v then you are actually better off with the 5v since it will handle more abuse.
You should also clean the bottom of the motherboard. It usually have a substance that corrodes the lines that control the ON/OFF button. I use alcohol.
It's somewhat late, but on my xbox that cap had gone bad too, so thanks for the head-up. While working on the cap noticed some 3330uf caps around the CPU didn't look that great either, so those will have to be replaced soon as well. Rather poor for a relatively new system, if you ask me.
relatively new? i believe it is 2004
@@sevantofra 2001
luckly my board doesn't have this peace of evil anymore :D
very cool vid i was thinking about doing this to my xbox
"You gotta clean the tip before you flood the hole" xd
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If its a cut label by a certified repair shop or refurbisher.They will value warranty as certified people put sticker on it to indicate certified repairs
1) How do you know that this particular capacitor contains an acid in it?
2) If so, recommending vinegar (weak acid) to "neutralize" it (potentially strong acid) sounds to me quite surprising...
Why vinegar if that is typically used, I'm sure not for neutralizing. I heard that people use isopropyl alcohol, but vinegar? In the presence of oxygen vinegar can also dissolve copper... Is there another reason why vinegar / lemon juice (again an acidic solution?
I also wondered about this one. Guess isopropyl alcohol is the usual stuff to use while cleaning boards?
Wow, just saw your video man. Went straight to the closet, got out my old trusty Xbox, opened it up, only to find out that it looks nothing like the ones you have?? Overall it has much less capacitors. And no fan on the gpu heatsink.