Donald Robertson on Marcus Aurelius and Understanding Stoicism
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 10. 2022
- Ryan talks to author Donald Robertson about his new graphic novel Verissimus: The Stoic Philosophy of Marcus Aurelius (geni.us/tBuE), the various influences that molded Marcus Aurelius into a philosopher king, how Stoicism is about unity and love, and more.
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Donald is a writer, cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist and trainer. He is the author of several books and many articles on philosophy, psychotherapy, and psychological skills training, including How to Think Like a Roman Emperor: The Stoic Philosophy of Marcus Aurelius (www.thepaintedporch.com/produ....
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"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength." ~ Marcus Aurelius đđ
Fascinating. So helpful to have a better understanding of the events of the time, and how the texts we have fit into it, even as they are timeless.
My first two Stoic books: The Obstacle is the Way and How to think like Roman Emperor, which got me on the path of practicing Stoicism in my daily life. These two talking is awesome!
Man, I love this, you two are the main reason Stoicism is so popular in our modern society.
I was glad to hear more about the virtue of justice and love. Our world is in need of this. And combined together with all the other Stoic virtues and principles it is a powerful force of good.
I often see this, the importance and expression of justice and love, lacking in Stoic communities on the internet.
âYouâre better off not giving the small things more time than they deserve.â
-Marcus Aurelius
Great quote. "It's very easy to make an assumption that's false, and talk about it for anhour with rhetoric."
I love Donald!!
History in Context.... Invaluble
Robertson's book got me through it đđœ How to think like a Roman Emperor
Donald is a legend, I am reading his book about CBT and how it is related to Stoicism. Verissimus is also fantastic.
How to think like a Roman emporer changed my life forever, it's the only thing that gave me control of my impulsiveness and anger.
@@josephllinas2672 they say it is more difficult to rule yourself than to rule a city, well done for getting that sorted out. It's really something.
Thank you Donald, for the work youâve done. I just finished Verissimus and I look forward to going through it with my kids when they are old enough.
Such a great conversation. Thank you both.
Summum Bonum , what is the good? And there is nothing better than the good, is having some ability and using that ability to create: Wisdom, Courage, Justice, and Temperance. We create our virtues by being ruthless with ourselves and we honor them in our fellow man by showing mercy and kindness.
ThankYou Ryan and Donald. Lots of insight
and wisdom.đ«đđ«
There is nothing unphilosophic about wealth - even extreme wealth. Seneca has one of the most beautiful and nuanced and convincing writings on wealth Iâve ever read.
Wealth is a âpreferred indifferentâ
Could you direct me towards his writings on wealth? Is it in one of his letters?
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia It looks like "On the Happy Life" is where he talks about objections to wealth. I have to find my copy in my library!
@@burnsport1 I'll try to find it. Thanks!
That's true, wealth is a preferred indifferent according to Stoic philosophy, although they also class the excessive "love of wealth" as a vice.
Amazing conversation with two incredible philosophers! I recommend everyone take Donald Robertsonâs course on Socrates and Marcus Aurelius. đ
@Adam I don't think of myself as an intellectual; I'm definitely not a businessman. I have two degrees in philosophy and have been speaking and writing about it for about a quarter of a century. I'll let other people choose whatever labels they want to attach to me, though. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Love this conversation!
Thank you guys đđœ
Overall, I gained insight and loved the conversation. However, Ryan started the discussion with the premise that Donald wrote his book, Verrisimus, for his daughter. I would have loved to hear more discussion about that and introducing Stoicism to children. I bought the book for just this purpose. The book is beautifully done!!
This was so good I kept rewinding.
I've never heard of the book, and it looks awesome/ great reviews.
Wonderful video, congratulations to all!
âŠ..it tells me that what we take to heart and apply to our lives makes all the differenceâŠ.you canât for instance blame Marcus Aurelius for failing his son Commodus, because his son didnât take Stoic thought to heart and apply itâŠ..whereas their is evidence that those such as Epictetus who took an interest in Stoic thought and applied it in their lives - reaped the reward of confidence in Stoic philosophy as a result.
Ryan Holiday ,Donald Robertson and Massimo Pigliucci are my 3 favorite and go to Stoics alive today. Great work on this Video Thanks !
Great meditation to start the day=]
Have you guys heard of the psychologist Albert Ellis how he incorporated stoicism with psychotherapy rebt
Try this : stop the planing and start the acting. Definitely you will see some results
Thanks
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With Nero and Marcus comparison maybe it was how their mentors were assigned? From memory wasn't Seneca forced to tutor Nero? The situation around Marcus' education from memory was different to that and more consensual?
You mention reading Hierocles, Ryan, and Iâm wondering if you would share the name of the book youâre reading. Iâm curious to follow up on that reading.
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Im happy its a possibility
Which Marcus Aurelius translation is best??
The most recent by Robin Waterfield, which is also annotated is very good. Most modern translations are good - people tend to struggle more with the old (public domain) translations from before the middle of the 20th century. Gregory Hays is the most popular translation but not quite as literal as most of the others.
@@DonaldRobertson Iâve got the Collins classic and I donât find it very easy to read.
@@DonaldRobertson thanks that looks pretty good!!
@@devondetroit2529 I can't see anything online that states the name of the translator do you know who it is by?
@@DonaldRobertson hmm Iâm not sure it says Collins classic series
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Anyone knows where Donald comes from? Because I've never heard an accent like that
Google
I'm Scottish!
@@DonaldRobertson Thanks for your books. Your book How to think like a Roman emperor has a extraordinary impact in my perception about life, death and philosophy. Thank you for all
He's Scottish like me. Best accent ever but I'm not biased
Is it just me or Donald sounds like "Durin" from "Rings of power" series
That's because he's Scottish.
I wish he spoke more slowly. His accent is very strong and he speaks too quickly. I wish I could understand what heâs saying, because I really am interested. I can understand him here and there but, darn.
It takes some time to get used to a thick Scottish accent, but it's worth it.
You can slow down the playback speed.
That's actually one of the most clear Scottish accents you will get
I first listened to Donald on Audible, so I did not really notice the Scottish accent so much in the Vid.
Justice for everybody except our brothers and sister Christianâs he murdered ayy
Thank you for not bringing Stacy Abrams back for a part two!