Authority on the Right, Power on the Left
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- I continue where I left of in my previous video about left hand and right hand symbolism, where now I discuss the idea of authority and power or direct and indirect influence. I use iconography and other images (like the royal scepter and orb) as examples to expound on this symbolism.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:31 - Intro music
00:00:56 - The Pantocrator
00:01:40 - The right hand: direct
00:03:24 - The left hand: indirect
00:05:10 - Auctoritas and potestas
00:09:36 - In Christianity: the keys and the book
00:12:58 - Spiritual and secular
00:14:37 - A fractal pattern
00:19:09 - The transfiguration
00:21:26 - This symbolism in today's world
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You have brought me out of the woods. I was hopeless and empty for the past three years when I tried to understand the importance of Christianity. I went from church to church finding only what I could find outside the church. Members of the church view the bible through the lens of the outside world and live an incoherent life. I discovered what most preachers preached was what I was hearing from hip-hop artists, celebrities, politicians, etc... Their message as a whole was a motivation. To me, the bible became like all the other books and Christianity less important. At the beginning of the year, I made an attempt to join Islam but encountered what had brought me there in the first place. To make the story short, I encountered Dr. Jordan Peterson's works, his podcast, and you, and I found the significance of the bible, the church, and Christ. I thank you for your content, it is really helpful, and it has found us in South Africa as well. God save the king, and God bless.
True. The South African church is so worldly.
Go to True southern Baptist that’s where you will connect again.
Jonathon, dude, I’m commenting on this video just because it’s your most recent. But man, you brought me to fully believe in Jesus (that’s obviously the most loaded sentence of all time, but hopefully you understand). I appreciate you and your videos so much. You’ve done more for me (through the Word and through Jesus) than anyone I can think of. All I can say is…… Thank you. Thank you so much.
This video was utterly fascinating. I’m speechless. We have been robbed of so much in this modern day.
Deeply resonated with your right & left symbolism videos - the concept beautifully illustrated in the Yin Yang symbol. In this video you mentioned the Unicorn and the Lion. Years ago I worked in Boston; our offices were directly across from the Old State House (built in 1713, it was the seat of the Massachusetts General Court until 1798). On the peak of the front gable are magnificent carvings of a Lion and Unicorn.
Most fascinating video. It’s the private and the public. The individual and the collective. Each embodied in the other. We need both. We are both 🙏🏼
Good insights! Keep in mind too that as the shift in Trinitarian theology in the Filioque was assimilated deeply into Western culture, it began to cause problems in its jurisprudence as the nature between the relationship of "right/left hand" was muddled due to the Son sharing in the Father's role as Cause of the Spirit instead of His participating in the "sending forth" or "procession" of the Spirit, Who gathers and inspires the many to glorify and love the Father through the Son. This very Trinitarian muddling reduced the hierarchy of earthly authorities into something akin to Hindu caste system or a Platonic "Chain of Being", whereby the "higher" are ontologically superior than the "lower" rather than the "higher" lovingly sacrificing themselves and seeing themselves as lower than the "lower" as Christ showed. Both extremes in the form of fascism and communism, can't mediate because they are enmeshed in this flawed Western way of thinking which is ultimately a "closed" or endocosmic system and not properly "open" to Divine Activity directly
Your comments are always very helpful when I read them.
This reflects the difference between the left and the right hemispheres of the brain. Logical discrimination in the left hemisphere (right hand) and creative power in the right hemisphere (left hand)
This guy should have way more views
Excellent analysis. A highly recommended work on the topic is ”Spiritual Authority and Temporal Power” by Réne Guénon.
I think that the problem with just seeing these as fractal patterns obscures the fact that these patterns become incarnate in people like St Peter and St Paul and in social roles. So the saints in this case are not just "stand-ins" but rather manifestations in which you can identify these patterns, and this gives the patterns a sort of "forensic" explanation, as if you were pointing to an organ in the body. In that sense I would slightly challenge the idea that it's "like a poem". It is a system, but an embodied one. And yes, some of the patterns are subtler. But they are identified in the concrete examples to the degree they embody them if it makes any sense. Otherwise it's just authoritas without potestas, it becomes a disembodied voice (like modernity).
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Very insightful. This makes even more sense why the pagan Roman emperors were persecuting Christ. They were very afraid of Him and His authority and power.
Prophecy is the individualizing of the revolutionary impulse, as wisdom is the individualizing of the law, and prophecy is geared to the future as wisdom is to the past. The Logos stands between the prophets and the law.
Yes! Paul talks about how prophecy was given to reveal our hearts. And that’s the reason given to the king in Daniel chapter 2 when interpreting the dream: that you may know your heart.
I’ll add that any future outlook that doesn’t tug on the heart strings of us here and now, isn’t functioning as intended. Modern prophecy speculations usually devolves into silly excuses of pointing outwards towards others and fear mongering. But I believe the signs given are meant to arouse the heart toward the time’s needed change.
Could the Right and Left also represent the hemispheres of our brains and how the Right hemisphere is the abstract extractor and the left is the mechanistic patern side. The Key to the 'unknown' and The Law of how we take that 'unknown' and make it known to ourselves in a living manifestation or form.
This could be a reason for the intuition. Interestingly, the brain hemispheres control their opposing sides of the body, ie your 'abstract' right brain controls your 'abstract' left hand. I think this can help us understand the flip in perspective.
Mercy and the right hemisphere, domain of intuition, imagination, science and reason. Justice and the left hemisphere, rigid, doesn’t know that it doesn’t know, hyper-focused, ready to grab the prey.
Thank you, Jonathan!
This is very good. So easy to understand. Left and the Right, Cain and Abel, Might, and Authority. They fight and can kill each other if not joined in Christ. Which is love, which is a balance between Logos (logic and reason), and Mercy. If joined by love Might will respect Authority, because Might knows that Authority loves it. So might wants to serve authority since both humble them-self in the image of Christ.
In the Iliad, Agamemnon and Achilles are power, while Nestor is authority.
Literally ying yang. Unión of opposites Aka balance. Thats the key. Can't have full control and tyranny, but neither can u have excessive liberty to the point that it turns into chaos/anarchy. Balance is key, in every facet of life.
@@dukemaximus5677 Yeah, and important is that both sides need to be joined in Christ. Meaning in love which is in reason and mercy , and self sacrifice for the other.
@@tsl9150 in a way You could Say that IS the balancing principle: CHRIST, love. Which, if You have in your heart, does not lead to an abuse in either of the opposites.
Great. I've been wondering about this for awhile. Thanks.
I love the content here man, blessed be
Hey Jonathan. Love your videos and want to say you helped awaken my symbolic mind and hope to share some things the lord brought to me. This video was interesting but seemed to conflict with how I’ve perceived the authority and power to be.
My pastor has described power as the ability to carry out an action and authority to be the justification to do it. Often giving the example that we all have the power to run a red light, but police have the authority to do it. This given by law. In the video it shows the right hand of authority and left of power, but in the representation of each one, the right hand seemed to always be “doing”. Pointing, telling, blessing. Which are all things of power. Something that doesn’t necessarily need authority. Where the left hand hold the scroll. Which would be the law. That law is the basis of which the power is justified which would seem to be the authority. Which is why I see conflict.
“Do this(power/right hand) because I have this (Authority/ left hand).” As the scroll/ law book isn’t moving. And is the thing that often becomes stale, as the law often loses its power when seen as outdated or archaic. At the same time, power always “exists” but without the scroll/law it becomes… lawless. Witchcraft. As rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, we can see that’s what any spiritual power (or any action at all) is when not grounded in Gods Law.
Ironically I’ve seen politics in the way that you put it: right having authority and left having power. Right wing Christian’s, often seen as pharisaical when keeping strict to the law and what’s authoritative while the left seems to be more charismatic/ open to the spiritual, turning to witchcraft if the law becomes archaic/restrictive. But in the middle, you see a balance of both, Godly spiritual power and the authority of the law of which it stands on. Which is what Elijah and Moses always looked like to me. Elijah manifesting so much of Gods raw power and Moses having the backing of Gods commandments
A previous video mentioned that the "left-hand" principle as susciting an excentric response (away from the centre) and the "right-hand" principle a concentric one (towards the centre). Hopefully, this will help make sense of the whole power/authority duality.
As for politics, although a duality can indeed be observed, both sides (Left and Right) actually illustrate tenets of authority and manifestations of power.
I always conceived 'power' as being the direct influence and authority the indirect source/'authority' to wield it
The internet seems to be a crossing over, combining the address and the book. Good example being when you make a live video addressing your subscribers directly in real time and then post it as a video that people can come and watch later.
Very curious indeed. But the addresser continues to address as we don’t think of the book but the person. Especially if we can see their face. But their face is not a direct response to looking into ours. So yes. I see the quandary. Curious. You’ve hit a nail - it might go in lol
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I thought for sure you would bring up the rod and the staff of the shepherd, one straight, and one curled.
Also, when Jacob crossed his hands in Genesis 48:
“14 But Jacob crossed his hands, and put his right hand on the head of Ephraim, even though he was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, who was the older. 15 Then he blessed Joseph:[a]
“May God, whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac served, bless these boys!
May God, who has led me to this very day, bless them!
16 May the angel, who has rescued me from all harm, bless them!
May my name and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac live on through these boys!
May they have many children, many descendants!”
Great video, very nice to see more on this.
I've been looking into realism and idealism, realpolitik and natural rights, and how such views affect politics, such as natural rights ideas leading to pax romana. I think the concept of left and right hand will help in this.. mostly I'd like to see why things go wrong and become corrupted. Imbalance, or failure to recognize what the good is, perhaps
Thank you for this!
Would love him to comment on the corpus having the chest wound at the left or right. Both are found on catholic crucifixes.
If people want an analysis of all England's sacred symbols (like the amulas of wisdom and sincerity as they relate to the left and right) check out '№24 TRUE meaning of the Coronation, King Charles & England's Sacred Symbols'
English King Spirit represent 🏴👑
See you in the Greenwood, lads
Thank you for this recommendation. I just watched it. It was so eye opening and very interesting.
The secret societies were always more important than the nations. Why do you think all the royal families are related?
Will you comment on the Palace of Peace and Reconciliation in the capital of Kazakhstan?
love all your content. full screen gfx need black bg. white is distracting. love you bro.
Thank you.
Interesting that in ancient Egypt the staff is in the left hand and the flail is on the right but they then cross over each other so finally the staff is on the right and the flail is on the left.
Could we please have a bible study? I’m sure many of us would absolutely love a bible study of some sort.
5:00 “de-spirited breath” ie dead letter, dead words.
It's sort of like capability (power) and enactment (authority) or potency and act. The ability to achieve _an_ end and then the ordering of that (potentially) chaotic force toward a _specific_ telos.
Thanks
Hey, any book recommendations for a history and symbolic/artistic interpretations of ancient church art? I’m specifically looking for sources that will make me more aware of how hand gestures were used. 🙏🏻
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The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism by Edward Baptist is an excellent study in how the right hand and left hand of power were applied to build America into the powerful nation it is today from swamps, forest, mountains, and grasslands.
I just had to pause the video in the first part because, in that Icon, Christ is wearing the same colors JBP wore a couple of days ago at one of his lectures. I´ll finish the video but I would love to hear if you Jonathan have anything to say about that.
Hi Jonathan
I’m looking to buy a book that explains the symbolism of iconography. Recommendations?
Archangel Michael: sword
Archangel Gabriel: globus
Thus the rabbit we see is only a type of the right hand to be revealed
This maps beautifully onto 12th century Kabbalistic tradition: the necessity of equilibrium between the two opponents, for example Cain and Abel. The relationship is the problem and the answer, not the person. Christ heals through conversation and attention. Attention of the right hemisphere: vigilant, aware, broad, contextualizing. He provides space for life.
It also maps onto Dialectical Behavior Therapy, which was developed for people with high sensitivity who experience severe emotional dysregulation and non-cognition: wise mind is integration of the intellect and emotions, Abel holding out a hand to Cain.
I mean yeah, all of this stuff is made up so images and ideas common to human intuition are everywhere.
left appealing more to feminine demography and right to musculine also probably plugs in to this. Also witch side tends to question their rulers more. Book is authority ,deemed to be worthy of writing down generations ago so is less questionable then living king.
As our good ol web head would say: with great power comes great responsibility.
I would be interested in how you view Foucault and his analysis of power. (If you’ve read him)
Staff and Globis - The Rod and the Ring perhaps...
HA! Statue of Liberty follows this.
the figure of Christ in the Leonardo Da Vinci's Last Supper - my goodness.
Thank you Jonathan. Right in front of our faces the whole time.
That’s very interesting and refreshing as usual Jonathan. However, I wonder how do you reconsider the left/right binary, in terms of Dionysian and Apollonian. It would seem like the symbolic pattern you presented is not applicable with behaviors of the left after the 1960s especially, where it becomes chaotic, unhinged and regressive.
Disagree. Same opposites and pattern. Passion and duty.
It’s all sort of arbitrary, isn’t it? Do you think uncontacted tribes have the same symbolism here?
It makes perfect sense because left also symbolizes incorporating the strange, falling down into chaos, and unraveling. I highly recommend the language of creation, Matthieu’s book that gives a broad overview of symbolism in genesis.
Where did you learn about this structure of Roman society?
Something about the tranfiguration that blew my mind when I found out. On Christ's sides are Elijah and Moses. Elijah never died and was taken bodily into heaven. Moses died and his body was taken into heaven. Jesus died, resurrected and ascended bodily into heaven. He unites both!
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Plato and Aristotle in Raphael’s School of Athens?
Me watching this high: "Yes, yes of course."
A book generally contains words, so therefore logos?
I wonder if this extends even to things like the statue of Lady Justice, who is portrayed with scales in her left hand a sword in her right.
Trust the law to communicate with a sword. But I guess that’s the law.
Are you coming out with anymore Archangel Micheal hoodies?
So what is the symbolism of secular authority being the "holy hand grenade" in Monty Python??
This video was confusing to me because it my mind Authority and Power were practically synonyms and I'm having to differentiate between them now.
authority influences power, power is the thing that does the moving/task, i think?
At some point I was told to picture a police officer: the badge is authority and the gun is power.
Authority is top-down, power is bottom-up. You could think, for example, a commander and his troops. He is the authority, they are the power.
It’s all semantics and symbolism is just mapping meaning onto the world or looping together the subconscious meanings we have for things. You could make an argument to the opposite as true just as easily.
@@LordJagd There is no mapping meaning onto the world. There is no "The world" per se. You can't take your categories and perceptions for granted. This power and authority business is just higher level I think.
Love your videos, and not to sound pedantic, I’m pretty sure authority is on the left, not right - holding the book = authorship aka authority, the book is after all a living book. Right hand is power, the pointer, since it’s literally what we use to act - to do work.
Christ sits on the right hand of God, the receptive to the Godhead - the living Word of God the father, which is repeated in Rev 5:1, hence Christ represents the power of God, since he literally does the work manifesting in human form. The left hand represents the Holy spirit, the authority of God, which we are told not to blaspheme against. It is hardly mentioned, like the Holy Spirit since it’s like air / wind and subtle in its nature. Left hand is also seen as the support, the authority which supports power, in Songs, the left hand is emphasized to be under the head.
Left hand is also compared to love in Acts, “now when we had discovered Cyprus, we left it on the left hand” where Cyprus is translated as love.
Love has always been the authority of God, the seven spirits represent the graces of God - repeated again in John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son. It is through love, the Living Word was authored.
You see the same in Sacred heart imagery, where the left hand points at the heart, or holds the heart - pretty certain the love of God represents authority of God, love is written on the hearts of mankind. The fruits of the spirit all have to do with love, with love mentioned as its firstfruit …
Corrupting the left hand path is always seem more negatively since it’s blasphemes against the spirit and ultimately the love of God.
On a le charisme qu'on peut. Synthèse des religions du livre.
Pantheism on the left, monotheism on the right.
Sounds like Panentheism as the big crown.
The left and right was not known in the same way 2000+ years ago.
Even the book once open has two sides
This sounds like psychosis
Thou shalt also be a crown of glory (a crown of beauty) in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
Isaiah 62:3
God will display his people, his work, to an admiring world, as a man might exhibit a "crown" or "diadem" which he held in his hand. They will look on with admiration and reverence - "for they shall perceive that it is his work" (Psalm 64:9)
I love that saying about the Jesus’s inner circle, and what He entrusted to each. To John, His Mother, to Peter, His Church, to James… Spain! The Evangelists of the Globe, the Empire that brought Christ to the Nations. The farthest a Christian Empire has ever reached.
But he abandoned his mother for his “true family”
He never abandoned her.
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Isaiah 41:22((E.S.V.))🤝
3:05 well, jesus didn't say his thing in front of a smartphone
The Donation of Constantine is the matrix of the imbalance we are still seeing today
Aristocratie?
No. He's holding an #ipad 🤣😂🤣😂
The problem I have with this analysis is that it falls apart the farther you move away from the symbolic to the actual. Do traditionalists exist who hold to an older form of authority? Absolutely. Do left wing intellectuals exist who want to tear down everything inherited in order to build the theoretical and untested? Absolutely. Do either of those groups have a persuasive hold on a significant portion of the body politic in 2022? Absolutely not. Let’s narrow the range of discussion to feminism. There’s a lot of arguments online between traditionalists and feminists. In actuality, who did the traditionalists end up voting for but Donald Trump. Is Donald Trump a traditionalist? No. Is Donald Trump a Christian? No. Does Donald Trump believe in God? Unclear, but probably not. Donald Trump is appealing to traditionalists because he appointed judges who are themselves traditionalists, but he’s also popular with a much larger crowd who aren’t traditionalist or churches but who hate feminism because they view feminism to be a bigger threat to pornographic American values than Christianity. I don’t know why both sides focus only on each other (who at least are advocating their own brands of morality) than on the much larger nihilistic and disgusting culture that most Americans not only live in but celebrate
Modern authority, it doesn't deserve respect or submission.