Jamaal Bowman's pandering to Israel didn't save him, with Ali Abunimah
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Nora Barrows-Friedman, Asa Winstanley, Ali Abunimah and Jon Elmer of The Electronic Intifada were joined by Fault Lines executive producer Laila Al-Arian, an Emmy and Peabody award-winning journalist and author on the day 264 livestream. You can watch the entire broadcast here: czcams.com/users/liveKmIaZhYhOJg
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Oh how gross! Thank you for reporting this more accurate view of both Bowman _and_ the insidiousness of AIPAC!
Thank you all for your fearless journalism! It is not going unnoticed! All eyes on Gaza!!
The lesser evil is still evil.
It's not going to change because that's how it works. So how about focusing on a real world solution?
Demand a Party of Peace: *Govt by People's Referenda, Single Issue Citizen Initiated Referendums with 70/30 split mean Communities can vote their own laws, by Mascot Candidates or Occupation of the Capitals. Make it an annual March every Oct 14 under a single white flag* 🏳️
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No morals, or any character qualities worth a damn that's why he's in politics.
_Democratic_ or Republican politics. Make the distinction!
All politics less authoritarian than those two parties are worthy politics.
Always remember
He got his position by pandering for AIPAC.
He lost his position by stopping the pandering.
He lost his position because the grassroots no longer respected him. If he didn't hang out with the wrong crowd and play Biden's game of saying one thing and doing another, he'd still have his seat.
@@wakeupus7You can't ignore the 15 million AIPAC spent on Latimer.
@@erikelliott8015 True. I still say people are more powerful and I agree with ei's assessment. Who's to say Bowman wasn't bought out? I never trust anyone with two tongues.
Thats not true even in the slightest.
@wakeupus7 ok so you trust AIPAC PAID SHILLS LIKE LATIMER???
They have no loyalty to anyone, not even themselves.
Thank you Ali, Asa, Nora and Jon. Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.
Jamaal Bowman deserved to lose. As a black woman who used to live in that district, he was an embarrassment. Done with the squad and they need to be called the squat.
Can't image where would we all be without the Electronic Intifada. Love your work!
Thank you Ali, for this great analysis.
DSA in New York went hard for him . As soon as he was elected, he dropped his membership to become a centrist.
That is DSA’s role. Controled opposition
What's a DSA?
Thank you so much for this. Honesty always wins.
Well said EI 🫶🏼 ✊🏽🇵🇸👊🏼
He lost not because of Aipac but he lost because he's a hypocrite
AIPAC made sure the voters knew it
He lost because of AIPAC
AIPAC contributed
Politics is money. He 100% lost because of AIPAC
Yes. Bye Jamaal.
As always great discussions and pointing out the hypocrisy of some politicians
If Bowman held steadfast to the same principles that the likes of Thomas Massie did, then he probably would have easily won his district.
This analysis explains everything about him. Spinelessness gets you nowhere.
Great coverage thank you
Jamal can’t go back to working as as school principal because he showed he doesn’t know what or how a fire alarm works
Informative ,appreciate your reporting .
I seem to recall Bowman getting a call from Obama the day Bowman was "elected".
Ali Abunimah, as usual, putting things in their proper context with his invaluable perspective.
thank you!!! speaking truth vs. the BS in so many other places
How does Bernie avoid being targeted by AIPAC.?????
Thankyou for bringing truth
Like Kashama Swamt said, you have to stick with your base and they will stay with you.
Bowman was a Israeli guy with an AIPAC issue .
Blessed are those who stand for Justice 👍
Thank you. Love to you from the heart of the Silicon Valley. ❤
I didn’t know this. Thank you Ali. Disappointed Mehdi Hassan didn’t bring all these up in the interview…
Lesson: The Duopoly cannot be reformed.
redistricting changed the district he represented to a significantly whiter and richer district. i think that’s the main reason for it
Articulate analysis as usual, thanks!❤
Wow that’s just not reported anywhere. Still the lesser evil for this Dem district, no?
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Sold his soul to the devil and still lost. says it all
His support of Israel ended him
Thought about contributing to his campaign. Then I heard some of the back story on the guy.
Never pander to isreal
Jamaal Bowman real skin color is white before all the ass eating.
I am sorry for the racism but I am black and can say this.
@@zxcaaq???
Jamal is a hypocrite Supported the small hats 🇮🇱 then flipped on them You can’t trust him Allah is fair
Yes but at time of oct7 he came out in support ehich took real courage every congreess person in usa is under constant presdure from more than aipac and need to look at who has replaced him yes usa should put more pressue on isreal to end gaza but what are other countries doung like uk france australia canada to put sancti9ns fiplomatic ties etc none and now isreal talk8ng annexing west bank
You have to pick a side!!
Very insightful.
Thank you
If you are anything but vehemently opposed to genocide, fascism, & enabling capitalism, then sink into ignoble defeat.
So much for Karen Bass.
Jamaal pull the alarm!
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He is a traitor
🎉 Good Riddance!
But Bowman's challenger who won is demonstrably more supportive of Israel and their atrocities. His challenger is the one who AIPAC cough up $15 million to his campaign.
In defense of my brother. Jamal did an interview where he was questioned about some of that history. He admitted that he was initially uneducated about the subject and history. As he became aware along with study, led him to where he is today. Cast away not a soldier of Judah! We all are learning in real time!!!!🙏🏾
This is fair bc that was a lot of Americans prior to October 7th if we’re going to be honest. Folks grew in the background like me & unfortunately he did it in front of the world.
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But really what do citizens do what do we do
March, vote, write, call, bds, and everything else you can think to do. We're trying to get to a positive critical mass
THANK YOU!
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My take on Bowman, and ‘the squad’ in general- as long as they continue to endorse Biden, and stay with the Demockrats, they will not get any support from me.
Right. As long a they are in line with corporate dems, establishment dems, they won't progress. They get in and turn on us.
So you're all in for TRUMP2024 then. MAGA!
@@johnpeter8226 such scare tactics no longer has any effect, when biden democrats is also pro genocide.
All they had to do was stop the genocide, let them lose if they can't differ from Republicans.
@@johnpeter8226 Being against Democrats who supports an ethnic cleansing doesn't mean you support a Republican who supports an ethnic cleansing.
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Is Bowman's opponent less pro-Israel?
ALI: Excellent topic. THANK YOU.
It is very important to discuss the "Progressive" - sometimes pero no mucho!
If you pay attention to the Progressive channels, you will see too much wishy-washy. Today I hear Mr. Mirshmeir - on Judging Freedom say: The killing in Crimea was an accident. The other day Mr. Galloway was saying: I do not like Hamas. Mr. Maté said a few months ago: Escape the first 30 minutes of Putin in the interview with Tucker Carlson: it is a waste of time! And also said on another occasion: Navalny very bravely faced the Russian government.
Paying close attention only to the other side is a shame, I think.
In order to see others and ourselves better, we need to look at our "shadows" (Jung).
#LONGLIVERESISTANCE
I thought he was against Israel’s war
He is
Bowman tried
A poor black guy fighting for his survival and you loosely drop all the Palestinians problems on him
Yep.
Max Rose was saying he lost both the moderate and conservative Jews. He said this is a predominately Jewish district so he would have to look after their interests. Seems he tried to be both pro Israel and pro Palestinian. Plus he doesn't seem to be a very nice person. Very aggressive and using profanity.
Arrest Netanyahu
Deport mileikowsky
1 of 2: *This is how you always need to vote:*
We must fully resist and _always vote_ against (& less authoritarian than) both the Republican *and* Democratic Parties- including AOC, all of the squad, Bernie Sanders, Edward Markey, Mark Pocan, the justice democrats, Biden & all other democrats. Vote in every single election- at all levels. And also _endorse or anti-endorse,_ in all elections you can, for outside your voting jurisdiction.
For _all_ public positions. And this same strategy applies against the same one or more party-monopolies in _all_ countries worldwide.
Real progressives will never be Democratic Members or Democratic loyalists. Never vote for _any_ Republican member or loyalist either.
You can always _write-in_ an anti-authoritarian person if no candidates for a position fit that bill. This will continuously reduce the power of _all_ authoritarian parties in the party monopolies. Until our task is complete.
Repeat strategy for all new authoritarian parties that emerge.
2 of 2: *This is how you always need to vote:*
We must fully resist and _always vote_ against (& less authoritarian than) both the Democratic *and* Republican Parties- including Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy, Rand Paul (He’s _no_ Ron Paul), Thomas Massie, Warren Davidson, Ron Johnson, and all other Republicans. Vote in every single election- at all levels. And also _endorse or anti-endorse,_ in all elections you can, for outside your voting jurisdiction.
For _all_ public positions. And this same strategy applies against the same one or more party-monopolies in _all_ countries worldwide.
Real libertarians will never be Republicans or Republican loyalists. Never vote for _any_ Democratic member or loyalist either.
You can always _write-in_ an anti-authoritarian person if no candidates for a position fit that bill. This will continuously reduce the power of _all_ authoritarian parties in the party monopolies. Until our task is complete.
Repeat strategy for all new authoritarian parties that emerge.
I agree with almost everything you wrote. The only divergence is, I would love for everyone people stop recommending write in as an option. In most states, it isn’t. Only 7 states allow write ins without the candidate being written in, registering in advance for legal write in status. On top of that, I can’t remember how many, but several states will throw out the entire ballot if an unregistered candidate is written in for the highest office on the ballot. Then there is the fact that several states don’t count write in votes unless the election is too close to call. If there are no indie, or 3rd party candidates on the ballot, for whatever seat, it is more productive for the voter to choose uncommitted, or leave the seat blank. Aside from that, your points are spot on.
@@andjanice71 Great. I appreciate your pointing out the flaws in my text. Always good to correct.
Please also take this fully and genuinely within in your political future:
Please never vote Green Party.
Always make sure you vote _less authoritarian_ than all Democratic and Republican party members. Even the Green Party is more authoritarian because they raise taxes for the military industrial complex and the prison industrial complex. Cornel West is the same here, don’t vote for him.
Taxes can never be raised- we need to instead focus on shifting money away from the military industrial complex and away from the prison industrial complex.
This is the strategy for the working class, and would clearly be sanctioned by Peter Kropotkin himself.
@@user-wl2xl5hm7k I’ll vote for anyone running on a platform to re-evaluate the poverty level threshold. It’s is based solely on 1963 food prices. Obviously, food prices have increased Exponentially since then, so if updated to today’s prices, would eliminate taxes for the majority of Americans.
@@andjanice71 As long as you’re never voting for anyone raising tax rates. Please read my last comment again. Reflect on all I genuinely communicated there. Be curious about Kropotkin, the truths he informed humanity of.
Best of luck
Pandering and panderers. Hummmmmmmm!
Absolutely right Ali, we shouldn't loose focus of Savings Palestine, and not get entangled with the saving of a politician who shows a sign of uncertainty whether he will help Palestinian life.
Israel acts like a spoiled brat.
Well said Ali
He had about 150-200 at his rally.
Half were volunteers and the rest was media 😂😂😂
That’s what he deserves.
Notice that they even tried to cart out pure Democratic Pawns AOC and Bernie Sanders, but to no avail.
#JillStein2024
I fell for Bowman's progressive campaign rhetoric and tried to ignore his Biblical world-view. Won't happen again.
Great ❤
Do not dismiss tha fact that Bowman is a black and Muslim as potentially the main factor of his defeat. It may be different if he is white and not a Muslim.
He was a clown and had plenty of crap takes. Surely it didn't help his case.
He's out for being a co-conspirator not because he opposed Gen0Joe
Bowman is a political coward for giving bing up his morals.
"Maybe we can't vote ourselves out of genocide...Maybe we need to talk about other strategies..." Such as?
I don't think this segment was fair, it completely lacked nuance. It was Bowman's trip to the West Bank which changed his mind on Palestine and set him on a course that made him one of the strongest voices defending Palestinian rights in Congress and calling Israel's onslaught a genocide.
He had many flaws and you did well to highlight them. But your conclusions, which do not take into account any of his advocacy in favor of the movement to stop the genocide, are unfair and too harsh. No problem with saying it straight but being too harsh is unnecessary and beneath you.
If you enjoy Black Agenda Report, ok. Have you ever featured their reporting/editorials/analysis on the show before now? Their account was even more polemical and most of the value of highlighting them was to give you cover to say "we're not being racially biased by saying this."
Nuance isn't sugar coating or a failure to tell the truth. Your absolutism, where either one is always on the right side or they arrive there immediately in order for anything to count, works against your goals, one of which I thought was persuasion.
You properly highlight AIPAC/Israel demands for absolute loyalty. How is your take down of Bowman any different? Self-righteousness is a trap, please avoid it or you'll end up like the Israelis, only with less money, less power, and fewer allies.
Your allies or potential allies will take note of you kicking people, who imperfectly supported Palestinian rights, while they are down. This is not how you build support or even how to set a higher standard than politicians typically reach. You clearly see how the narrative about his loss is being used but rather than offering a clear, straight, truthful, and nuanced take, you pile on too.
This isn't about "necessary evils" in this Congressional race. It was about seeing the humanity of someone struggling in public, trying to figure what to do in a situation where moral clarity makes demands his self-interests would like to avoid. He made decisions headed in the right direction and was specifically targeted from 2020 to present because he wasn't a reliable "liberal" shill. And rather than seeing the potential in someone like this, as JVP and other aligned groups clearly did, you dismiss him in this manner.
You see Bowman as a minor figure who got what he deserved because he was fake. Ok. And now we all have a very real problem with his replacement. Congratulations.
Please do a follow up segment on what strategies in the United States will be effective that don't involve voting? I'm curious to hear that discussion.
Different, in case the only useful and effective strategy working for Muslims and fitting their identify and life purpose:
Beginning the process of Re-establishment of the khilafa. Uniting all willing Muslims and non-muslims Politically, Militarily, Economically... under one state based upon Islam.
Lots of hot air with no blueprint.
Demand a Party of Peace: *Govt by People's Referenda, Single Issue Citizen Initiated Referendums with 70/30 split mean Communities can vote their own laws, by Mascot Candidates or Occupation of the Capitals. Make it an annual March every Oct 14 under a single white flag* 🏳️
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Yeah, who needs a progressive vote in Congress.
Free #palastine
I think this is a bad take Ali. In his district he basically kept all of the votes he got before, it was all of the new ppl in the district that killed him.
Bowman was defeated because he was an opportunist running cover for the people in power, they disposed of him when they saw fit. I don't see why we should be lauding him , and if anything, this is a yet another failure of the DSA model. Nevermind their own failure to hold him accountable in 2022 for his support for Israel.
A “bad take” is supporting what is clearly controlled opposition
@@chipwalter4490 lol you heard anything bowman has said? He's about as far from controlled opposition as you can get in the house.
Yeah at least he's anti-geno versus the guy who won. Latimer will be cheering on annexation of the entire West Bank next.
@@cerieti did you watch this video you are posting comments under? How thick are you Democratic voters! It’s unreal, it’s like talking to a brick wall.
Any Democrat is controled opposition.
If you voted for ANY Democrat you voted for the current genocide.
You have been warned repeatedly, over and over again, for decades, that you were delusional & biding the country into impending major disaster. The disaster is happening RIGHT NOW.
And you cannot stop yourselves from mindlessly repeating your zombie like programming.
Anyone who has the gall to promote the idea that there is “an alternative” to the Democratic Party INSIDE the Democratic Party is worse than a belligerent Trumper at this point.
WILL YOU EVER STOP
He lost because he embraced Hamas and got his rear end handed to him. No great loss.
Says a genocide enabler
Typical duplicitous politician
Ad usual killer and true reporting, no bullshit, no propaganda.
excelllent Ali.....as usual
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