THE UGLY FACE OF VANLIFE!!!!! KNOCKS ON OUR DOOR | PEAK DISTRICT THEY ARE ANGRY😡😡😡 | VAN LIFE UK
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- We head off for a weekend in the Peak District. It doesn't go quite as planned when the NASTY side of van life knocks on our door.
How would handle a situation like this?
Van life in the Peak District is great, surrounded by amazing views and lovely little towns and villages to visit. We had a lovely time apart from the knock.
0:00 The Intro
04:45 Buxton
10:00 Into the Goyt Valley
12:34 The beginning of the Nasty
15:10 The Wife
15:52 The NASTY
19:52 The morning after
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Let us know how you would have handled the situation? I try to handle things differently most of the time. My guard was already up after the Wife had confronted Maximus with the dog - He doesn't comprehend half of the things she was saying and definitely didn't know how to reply. That upset him to start off with. Then once the guy bounced up to the window like he did and the right into my face I found it hard to keep my composure. I asked him normally twice to move back, Maximus was scared behind me and when he wouldn't move My voice changed. You can hear it break a little as the adrenalin kicks in as I enter fight or flight mode.
Editing this was very hard to be honest, it turned my stomach. There was a lot more to the confrontation but it would upset Maximus if I included it all. They would move away, they wouldn't leave. I kept trying to back them up away from the van and Maximus. In the end Michelle came out as well.
I don't understand why people have to be like that...
Please let us know your thought below?
I would have done the same and moved on afterwards.
Just ruins it all. People are vile and shouldn't behave like that. However, they do. Hopefully, you'll not be put off by that experience, guys.
Looks like you had a lovely time regardless. Well done
Yes that was awful with your family there. If you go to north Wales, things can in my experience take an even nastier turn and I'd recommend avoiding the place.
I was on Anglesey within the last couple of years, alone and fishing a night tide, and could hear some banging and shouting in the car park.
Got into the car park as they were driving away. Couldn't get the reg number and it was dark so I couldn't even tell what sort of car it was.
I got a broken front windscreen, dents down the side and trim torn off the back. Well over £1000 of damage.
Over the years we spent thousands in Wales on holidays with the kids. After that experience I'll never spend another coin there and neither do any of our friends and relatives. I assume that counts as a win for the Welsh.
It has to be said, the explosion of van ownership and "wild camping" this last year or two has changed things for the worse, and certainly in Wales its probably safer for visitors to avoid isolated places. If indeed there is still anywhere left without height bars.
Sorry to hear you had that experience, it is a sad world we live in when people think it's okay to do that to someone else.
We love Wales and have spent much of our time away in various parts. In a recent trip ( Our first in the Van to Wales) we didn't have any problems. I had read a lot about Anglesey and although we visited during the day - we made the decision to not stay the night.
We stayed a couple of nights on Llanwrst library carpark, once on the way in and again on the way back out. Llanwrst and the surrounding area are some of our favourite spots. It does look like every where has become no overnight now in and around Snowdonia. The vlog is to come but we looked for spots in Wales that it seems acceptable and there was still plenty of space. We didn't feel like having the confrontation in a wild spot.
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Thanks Terry, we still had a great time - it took a while to settle and reassure Maximus that night that he hadn't done anything wrong and they were just not nice people. With his developmental delay he has the social understanding of a 3-4 year old, so he need support and reassurance. This is the thing with disabilities that can't be seen, people just don't understand. Thankfully he woke up happy and the neighbours we had were lovely with him and let him ask his 100's of questions (usually the same ones over again). They let him explore their van and that helped restore his confidence.
He has been away again since and Loves his van - he is looking forward to heading north in search of snow after Christmas :-)
I think you handled very well telling him it was escalating and he had to move out of your personal space. You were defending your wife and child against an intimidation. I think it is very normal to have those emotions kick in. After all, you chose to stand your ground and not pick a fight but move. That set a good example if you ask me.
I had a guy attack me while I was night fishing, giving the billy big, he spat at me.I’m 6 foot 5 and 17 stone. Watching the colour drain from his face and then the thud as his nose connected to my right hand. Funnily enough he disappeared whimpering and I went back to sleep. I don’t suffer fools gladly, but you did the right thing mate 👍
Oh wow!! What absolute horrible human spitting in your face. He must have gotten a terrible shock when you defended yourself. He will think twice about doing that again.
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No worries mate and take care, us Millwall are tough bunch 😉
@@davidgarratt5518 I love the song you Millwall lads sing its quality. We are Leek Town nobody likes us at the moment only because we are top of the League
@@MrTerryb1956 Well good luck for the season, a lot of teams use it nowadays but it’s ours and always will be NOLUWDC 🦁
Oh why oh why weren't we there to witness the fist nose connection?. You could have sold tickets and ended up rich.
I have come to the conclusion that there are some people in this world that make it their life mission to go out every day and piss people off for no reason whatsoever and it's probably because they are just very unhappy and miserable people that don't want to see others enjoying their lives.
Keep living your best lives and ignore the saddos 💕
Thank you 😊
Well said 👍
Or more likley, they're rich, out of touch land owning toffs who shreek at the very presence of the less advantaged.
bloody right on.
Yep, agree!
We are all going there soon hope they like 30 army boys camping out there
I don't even think he will come near but please let us know if he does. 🙂
The guy is lucky he knocked on a van owned by someone as calm as you
They should definitely not be going about doing what they did. They were old too and unfortunately, like you mentioned he may knock on someone's van that isn't so calm.
Unfortunately he'd come across that person if that were me as well lol. Old or not I don't like intimidating behaviour, fools or being spat at lol. I'm with the 6'7 fella. I'm 6'4 and being spat at is a huge no no...Can take being called all sorts of names and insults bit spit at me and I'm willing to get arrested for smacking a knocked lol gotta deal instant justice with some people imo. Fair play for not lumping them tbh haha
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Ive dealt with these types before, best thing to do is to open the door as hard and fast as you can whilst they are stood there (use your foot to create momentum) they usual end up on the floor at which point you can jump out and determine whether or not further force is required to protect yourself and your family from potential harm..... if someone comes banging on your van in the night, deal first and ask questions later..
Well that's definitely one way 😀. Thanks for commenting
Not all van dwellers are hippy wannabees…
Would not be able for that in the middle of the night... As soon as they knocked I would be fuming I am not a people person. Only a fool would cross the line to knock on a man's door late at night.
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I'd have shown them on camera! If they want to be confrontational, lets watch them and let their neighbours and family watch them!
We thought long and hard about showing their faces but we wouldn't want to be the cause of them getting abuse of any kind.
I agree I would have shown their faces
@MrTerryb1956 Hi, thanks so much for your comment. We wouldn't want them to come to any harm due to us exposing their faces
Yep! You should have shown their faces, they have no right to privacy when out in public.
Let's go back in group. Should be interesting 😅
New subscriber and van dweller. As a doorman of 22 years experience.. In no way did I see you losing your cool. I thought it was a measured response setting clear boundaries to protect your family and your personal space from an aggressor..simple. In my experience anyone who steps back and folds their arms had violence as intent as is literally restraining themself by doing so.
Looking forward to checking out your back catalogue and new travels :) Namaste.
Thank you for you comment and the benefit of your experience. I felt the same when he folded his arms and that's why I continued to attempt to make space between him and my boy who was sat right behind me. I feel like I did loose my cool a little when the adrenaline kicked in, I try to show Maximus a way with words. He is on the Autistic Spectrum and has developmental delay and anxiety. His emotional develop meant is around 4 years old, even though he looks like a "neurotypical" boy things can effect him.
It was definitely a balance of trying to give a measured response and trying to show Maximus the right way. In that I definitely feel I lost my cool a little.
Still nice to hear from someone who has had to deal with these things day in day it, my gut reactions were inline with the situation a you saw it.
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@@traveling-taylors Thankyou for the response..much appreciated :)
I've also worked as a peer based councilor and simply wanted to say that Maximus seems a charming young man and I appreciate his sensitivities and also your desire to set a good example as his protector when faced with emotional volatility from another.
I thought you did a Sterling job of balancing your response to the aggression you all experienced in an isolated environment...
Bullies only tend to respond to perceived negative consequences for them and it's worth considering how it may have escalated had you not 'lost your cool' as you perceive it.
Perhaps go easy on yourself..we are good men..not superman ;)
Thanks you for that, I do replay and think what could I have done better for him as a dad.
@@traveling-taylors You will dude thats perfectly normal and expected. It was a traumatic experience for all of you and your obviously empathic nature will attempt to discern with hindsight how it (you) could have been 'better'.
You did what you did in the moment and it worked out the best it could have when it could have been so much worse...it's obviously not in your nature to have to talk to people that way and it isn't sitting comfortably with you...that's on him and his wife...not you. Let's put responsibility for this situation where it belongs.
Thanks again, it's a funny one CZcams. I was in two minds whether to even include it in the video. It is what happened and that's what this is supposed to be about - our travels.
Doesn't sit well though even now.
It also opens us up to peoples thoughts and opinions and although most see it for what we did there are always those that see it differently and reply with abuse - even if then don't realise that's what they are doing.
Thankfully only one so far
Thanks again for your comments
I could tell by the way your voice was breaking that you were scared during the encounter, but you manned up anyway to protect your family and got the bully away from you all. A brave man is not one who does not get scared, but one who does what he has to do in spite of being scared. Kudos to you, mate.
Thank you. Yep, you got to protect the family. Thanks for your comment and support
Pathetic both of you, I guess your friends they were an elderly couple man up!
I interpreted it by the voice wobble that this fine gent was just at the point of losing his rag and unleashing terror onto the intruder. No scared of the intruder, but scared that he might take the intruders head off for threatening his family.
@@traveling-taylors 100% support from all of us.
That wasn’t fear, that was adrenaline.
You're a good family man... don't let this experience get you down...
What a lovely family
Keep camping!!!
Thank you so much 🙂 We will keep on camping
You are guilty of nothing , how you kept your cool was amazing.
Thank you so much 🙂
Wow, even when you guys argue, you still have like a very gentle and polite way of speaking 😊
Thank you, we just try to show Maximus a way with words and try and stay Calm. That was hard to do in that situation 🤯. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
My favourite site in the peaks is the one next to the top of Stanage Edge on the road from Ringinglow on the back road to Hathersage. A bit windy but it ensures a peaceful night's sleep from human interruptions. I have a brilliant system in my van. It's an ex-tesco delivery van and was fitted with a 4-camera system with recorder. i managed to get it to work independently off the house battery system. So if I hear a 'worrying' noise in the night I can fire up the recording system and check all the cameras on my viewing screen while still in my warm bed!
We did debate whether to head back to the Roman road and just sleep there, but decided to have tea and park down by the walk to have a look in the morning. As you can see from the drone footage it is pretty impressive in its design. It didn't work out that way. The cameras are a great idea, Tim was saying the same - we need to get some :-)
@@traveling-taylorscameras definitely mean you can see what's happening without showing your face. Sometimes you want to just drive away without interacting.
I would have moved after the interaction with the woman. Unfortunately, we don't get the abuse for who we are and how we act, we get it for all the previous van dwellers who have parked there before. I don't stay in places just because I'm entitled to and it's legal, I stay in places that are safe and that is my priority. Packing up and driving 20 minutes to a back up spot is far less hassle than dealing with 'the knock'.
It was so very quiet and safe we didn't expect the knock. We don't park anywhere just because we have rights but we won't be intimidated by people telling us we have no rights either. We just want a quiet, peaceful life, hence why being responsible and respectful citizens. Unfortunately for the guy that wanted to fight with Graham, he will knock on the wrong door one day and will be met with somebody less restrained. I hope that doesn't happen but inevitably it will. People know their rights nowadays and don't take kindly to bully boy tactics. We did move on though and find somewhere else that was peaceful.
Wouldn’t have handled that as calmly as you did so well done. Still, got the location for some bants in the summer with my fishing buddies.
Thanks.
I was talking to the fishing lads. It is a club water, can't remember the name - was a big club though with a lot of waters.
Day tickets available though 🙂
Good on you for showing this. Too many people show only the rosy side of life on social media. Hopefully Mrs and Mrs Old Codger see this and pull their heads in. I don't think you overreacted. It's just a shame you felt you had to move.
I would rather not be showing it, but it is real and what happened. Thank for watching and taking the time to comment 🙂
Go straight to the police mate who do they think they are the absolute idiots , hope you and your family are ok and big hugs to maximus
Thanks Russell, in the end it came down to is it worth that much of our time and they just weren't.
Maximus is happy and has enjoyed another adventure in the van since. He is really looking forward to heading for Scotland and finding snow after Christmas 🙂
@@traveling-taylors it is very much worth it why should people think they can talk to you and your son like that
@@traveling-taylorsit's for the common good if not for yourself, they'll do it again if they're not told with absolute clarity where the boundaries are.
Yeah, I get what you are saying there. He could lash out or worse someone could lash out at him in defence and then be in trouble.
Life isn’t all sunshine and rainbows, which is unfortunate. But from what I took in from the scene, you handled it well. As a parent with a child with additional needs I will do anything and everything to protect my family, as you did there. I would be exactly the same playing it over and over again in my head, just the way some of us are made. The positive comments say it all 👍
Thanks, it is hard to watch someone accosting my child when it is clear once he talks back he has the communication level of a 4 year old. This didn't stop the wife and I had to place myself between them and get Maximus in the Van. I wish I had the audio but I still had the externalics plugged in and not switched on. I tried to communicate as pleasantly as possible with her that she was verbaly attacking and intimidating ( with the Shep )a child with additional needs. She didn't like that, but I just said there are now signs only the public footpath and no public access on the water works. She left saying she was going to call the police.
Then he bounced at the window and into the Van. Another person commented they heard my voice break and I was scared, I was to be fair - I was affraid I was going to have to do something in front of my son that I didn't want to do. I was afraid I would loose my cool. The adrenaline kicks in at the point my voice breaks and that is where rational thought normally leaves and fight or flight kicks in. I didn't want to fight in front of my son, but there was no other option than to push forward and get him out of the space. He clearly looked like he wanted to fight and that was not acceptable.
Even now I play it over and over again. The positive response has backed my own thought process, I am not going to lie though. My body and mind had a trauma response both to my own situation and to what Maximus had been exposed to. He is so young in his emotional and social development and things like this can leave an impression. We don't let him watch fighting or play games with fighting in. He is still more interested in Peppa pig. Some people just don't get it. He has violent outbursts towards us though and we know how hard he can hit. He is the size of a small man 😊 with the development age of a toddler. He doesn't yet understand how to control those emotions or feelings.
Sorry for the war and peace reaponse.
Best wishes to you and your family and thanks again for watching and commenting 🙂
@@traveling-taylors absolutely no need to apologise for the long reply. You absolutely hit a raw nerve with her. The reason she probably didn’t back down and was more aggressive was because she knew she’d messed up.
You were perfect with him, forced him to move away from the van. You handled it well 👌
Your son is a big unit! 😂😂 that is a problem (especially if he’s kicking off 😢) as a lot of people have no idea. Open their mouth first, before thinking.
There is that, you really don’t know how it impact the kids, episodes like that. Thankfully not an everyday occurrence.
Try and put it to bed (says me replying 😂😂).
Looking forward to your next upload and adventure. Take care. 👍
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Sorry, repairs should be prepares, autocorrect got hold of it and I didn't notice 😅
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I am an instant fan. What a lovely family. I have a son with autism and i couldn't imagine that happening to us. I was heart broken to see such nasty people treating your beautiful boy like that. They should be ashamed of themselves. God bless you all 🙏❤️
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Good on u being as calm you were A lotta people woulda bashed their heads right in lol. Ima visit there this summer
I am so proud of how you handled this. Honestly, this was good, even if it doesnt feel like you handled it well. Those folks weren't looking to solve a problem, they were looking to make a problem. I appreciated how strong (not aggressive!) you were for your family. You folks are exceptional (the care, the gentleness but also the protectiveness and strength)
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Just subscribed to your channel 😎 You handled the situation really well and being assertive towards unknowns at night is definitely the way to handle this sort of situation 😎
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Graham's Assertiveness definitely payed off as they did back off eventually
You are such a lovely family❤ well done calmness is key , horrible people!! thankyou loved watching your tours and keep it up x
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Having lived in vans and Trucks for years ive had to square up to idiots like these for years, take thd fight to them, i always had a an axe handy as i had a woodburning stove , a good bright LED torch on pulse mode in a persons face at night is v.disorienting, some people just need a good slap to makd them rethink their behaviour, fit external led lights high up on van roof to see whose about.
We have the big light bar on the front, but my thought was to pick up the camera and have a record for the police dbf. I didn't even know if I would include it in the video, but it was real and sadly it is what can happen. I have just said to John in another comment " In a way we were lucky that they were not very nice but backed down" I also said I can definitely understand why people feel the need to have some form of protection.
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I've had a few similar incidents. In this case, I can sort of see their perspective up to the point where she and he realized you were a family, not a group of destructive hooligans. The last guy that tried that with me regretted it, no details necessary...suffice it to say, I have not seen that fella in the area of the river since.
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I sometimes sleep in the back of my ford connect for work and pocket the hotel money,I actually prefer it to a cheap hotel.It’s amazing how often someone tries the door handles
Freya normally barks if anyone comes that near, although on our last adventure we have 5 or 6 cars outside. When I went out they were just kids and didn't realise it was a camper. You never know though, so we have been looking at external cameras.
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New subscriber I work in retail and deal with people like this on a daily basis at no point did you lose control and remained calm. Sadly in life people love a confrontation
Unfortunate but true! Thanks for the sub and commenting :-)
His voice was breaking from the anger& adrenaline- not fear my friend. I know because when i get so angry, the adrenaline causes me to shake along with my voice. But fear is the farthest thing from my mind at that time. Its full anger, me trying to control myself& keep composure as to not go to jail mostly lol!
There was fear :-) I had a very real fear - I had a very real fear of possibly having to fight infant of Maximus. We just try to show him a way with words and with him being on the spectrum and having developmental delay he has the social and emotional understand of around 4. This means he lashes out when he get frustrated or upset. He is a big lad too and going to only get bigger. I really didn't want to have to fight in front of him and there was a point when he would not move back I thought it would come to that. Lots of anger and a little fear at that thought.
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@traveling-taylors I completely understand that. I think the other commenter was meaning you were afraid of the old man, I was very doubtful of that lol.
Mate proper Respect to you keeping your shit real I've been to prison for violence twice i snapped and put the aggressive starters in there place in the end but i got punished for standing my ground against the feeble Karen's trying to take away our freedom but you Kept your shit real God bless you mate🙏
Thank you - sorry to hear you went through that for standing your ground. That is always a concern with any incident like that. As Maximus has developmental delay he only has the emotional age of a 4 year old and just going through that was traumatic enough for him without seeing his dad fighting with a guy.
He was right up in my face and my main thought was just to get him out of the space a Maximus was directly behind me. Thankfully I managed to move him out of the door without it escalating. There was a moment though when I worried it would become something more when he didn't move back immediately.
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That greenhouse is so beautiful 😍
How nice to come across this video with everything wonderful a yank hopes to find over in the UK. We have many posters of camper van adventures over here and many seem to show travelers in what appears to be the end stage of their fascination with the lifestyle. As a first time viewer I'll now search for more of your adventures with those lovely vistas you've brought to light. Safe travels to all of you from Atlanta.
In 4 years of off grid campervanning, 12 months of the year, we have NEVER had an issue, we 90% use park4night too.
Glad you have never had to experience anything like it - it's not nice and wouldn't like to have it happen again, especially with Maximus sat behind me.
You responded appropriately .... don't feel bad. You were a lot cooler headed than what I would have been. I have about 75% APACHE Native American blood running through my veins and I would have been a little more pro active than you were so don't feel bad for protecting the ones that you love! Good job and keep bringing the viewers more cool content on your camping adventures.
Thank you, we have quite a few adventures on our little Channel now. did daily vlogs from Scotland on our Winter Road trip.
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@@traveling-taylors no worries 👍. I couldn't ever fault a Man just trying to protect his loved ones .... you're a good Man and keep up the good and entertaining content and I will keep watching! I don't like flying so videos like yours lets me see how other far off places that I will bever get to see in person look.😉😊👍
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Thank you for sharing your time in India it's been amazing most of us will never get to see what you have shown us. Today's video at the borders. Was incredible you have experienced and captured your memories forever on film. even though it's colder.you look relaxed. Brilliant thanks guys
Thanks for commenting, I think you got the wrong video though :-)
I live in a van (t6).
Always park facing my exit, straight wheels, 3ft gap to the rear of the van so as to reduce becoming blocked.
First bit of perceived trouble, l always move to my second choice pre- chosen, as it reduces confusion in that moment.
In a back handed way, the old couple did all of you a favour, Maximus woke up in a location he liked, you got the best footage from the trip, and as a family you all shrugged it off.
( You have an incredible wife, who has a great personality, with a real strength, ( in kindness).👍
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I met a couple just like that in Perth, Australia. They were as equally intentional to not just intimidate but to also disuade people from being near their property. In my case, I was on a dog beach in front of their units with my dogs swimming. What occurred has to this day left me unsettled when I think about their behaviour. However, I did later hear that they do that to everyone, even young boys going fishing, who left a backpack against a garden wall facing the beach. So all I can guess is that is specifically crafted behaviour to push people away from their exclusive areas.
Unfortunately they are among us :-) a few local folk have commented saying they are like that with everyone and everyone knows them. He apparently has the nick name "Ted Bundy" in local circles.
We have been really lucky so far and met mostly nice folk :-) Thanks for watching and commenting
Such a polite confrontation.
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I think you stayed very calm, I can’t imagine my husband greeting such people so calmly! 😂 Hope your lad was okay though! Whether you were in the right or wrong for staying there, there was no need for their aggression. Just a polite word to advise that the road was private (if this was the case) & to ask that you kindly move on…perhaps even pointing out another spot for you to stay, as they’d know the area! People are just too quick to speak to each other so disgustingly; we are all just trying to live our lives and have some joy! 😊
Thank you so much for your comment. Our son was quite distressed as the woman had accosted him with her German shepherd and was awful to him. He was just sat outside the van talking to his robot. Graham told her to step away from our boy and asked Max to come back in the van. Then the man opened our van door aggressively and luckily Graham managed to shut the door and tell him to step away.
They weren't very nice people and unfortunately for them they will come across somebody less patient than Graham.
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@@traveling-taylors ah I’m so sorry to hear that your boy was distressed! To do that to any child as an adult, is disgusting. Just glad you were all safe in the end and I hope that you never encounter such vile humans again! X
Thank you so much. Had it just been Graham and I we would have just called the police but we had to remove Max from the situation. It was a very unpleasant experience but we managed to enjoy the rest of our adventures.
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Piles of old or opshop towels needed in van at all times. A collapsible crate with layers of towel. Top layer can be washed or thrown away.
Hi, I have just seen this video and OMG I can't believe somepeople.
Me and my partner work and climb in the Peak District all the time, and we haven't had anything like this.
Please keep coming back as we are not all like the aggressors in your video.
Happy travels and adventures.
Thank you, we love it all around the Peak District, most people we meet are lovely, like anywhere there are always a couple. We won't let it put us off.
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This is right in my back yard I have had nights like this travelling in France and Spain and the UK when something kicks off then you can't sleep .but this is something you will laugh about in the future
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In nine years of full timing I 've only had one very strange incident with older Frecnhman who decided my vintage motorhome was smoking too much as I waited for the air brakes to prime on a winter morning . After a few choice French swear words he came at me with a hammer , but stopped when I didn't move an inch and pointed my finger straight at him shouting " ARRET " !😂 Luckily the age difference made it more slapstick than anything and he seemed to realise he'd lost the plot . slinking back to his own motorhome and slamming the door . I appreciate your incident was far more serious and you handled it well . Good strong response that made it clear you wouldn't be intimidated . People can be very unpredictable though so moving on after the event was the sensible thing to do !!
Thanks so much for your comment and my imagination conjured up all sorts of images with an old French man with a hammer in his hand and you not moving 😂 an inch.
Nowt so strange as folk 🙂
Interesting encounter ... knock on door... always disturbing. We are yet to have this encounter.. You handled it well. thumbs up there mate.. regards Jaunti Van Life South Africa🚐
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Been living in this van for around 3x years, Think I've only had 1x knock when parked at a RSPB but I could hear his friends saying "But he's got a right to park here", another occasion I was parked in a public road on the edge of a Castle Estate, I had the local security stop in front of my van flashing light, I've got a bulkhead and no windows only 2x sky lights so was hardly aware, they passed the following morning, we chatted and all was OK. My worst one was when I was parked down a country lane on a Saturday evening at a spot I've stayed at many times, was aware of a commotion outside turned out to be 5-6 Police cars with lights flashing but no sirens, clearly they were looking for someone or something, I knew that if I opened my door they would try to do me for something, but as they hadn't knocked and had no reason to I didn't open the door, they left after a few minutes but left one car with WPC's possibly Plastic cops, they tried intimidating me by saying "This is Really Suspicious, clearly up to no good"' followed by "We've called the locksmith who said he'll rip my door off in seconds so we can make an arrest", I continued to watch Star Trek with headphones on one ear, a few minutes later they said "OK a tow truck is on its way"' but then they drove off LoL.
I'm sure you do what most van folk do as in be polite and pick up rubbish etc. Hope thats your first and last knock, you can't help what others think or do, clearly their world must be pretty sad in order to chose to interfere with others rather than live and let live.
I truly believe that most people are good but they are definitely some that are not so nice and have had their closed minds convinced that vanlifers leave mess and make noise, when in reality most of us pick up rubbish from spots we stay in that locals have left. In this week's video you can see us picking up litter that we didn't leave.
All we can do is just continue doing good, keep ourselves to ourselves and be free 🙂🙂
What Trek, Unpopular opinion but DS9 is probably my Favourite. Saying that though I enjoyed the nostalgia of the final series of Picard :-)
It was earlier this summer so can’t quite recall but I usually enjoy them all.
Wow you were so chilled I’d have been so scared 😱
Same thing happened to me in Essex. IGNORE THE BULLIES
Wow. Crazies are everwhere. You handled that very well. Good grief. He popped up like something from The Wicker Man. That aside. Lovely family and Van. ❤😊
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Glad you didn’t let the incident ruin your experience 💪🏻
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You’re a great father and husband! I would have lost my cool. This video have taught me that I really need to work on my anger. You definitely handled that well 👏🏾👏🏾
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Me to short fuse.😊
He was an old man and he knew he wouldn’t able to fight, that’s why he folded his arms. He was comforting himself because there was nowt he could do and he’d lost the fight
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A man/woman has every right to protect himself and his family no matter where they live.
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I have a cunning plan.
Let’s all stay down that PUBLIC road.
Put the ‘what three words’ location and we’ll stay there….
We’ll happily remind them of their folly..
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Brilliant 😂
when he said "can i help u" u should have said "yeah if u wouldnt mind id like a pack of crisps and an apple, thanks for offering me help"
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Wow, that was intense. I think you can guess my reaction G. I'm so very sorry you having to go through this. I realistically agree you handled it legally and you had Maximus to think of but they had already traumatized him so they already did the damage. If that had been our Harley or Mikey they would have gone into full blown meltdown as I am sur Maximus probably did. I know for sure our Harley would probably never have got in the van again. I hope it hasnt upset Maximus badly and put him off going in Wooflie again. That would be a tragedy that would be heart breaking and destroy everything you are trying to build for a life for him. I think he was a pompous up himself prat filled with his own self importance and was darned lucky he hadnt done that to someone who would have given both of them instant flying lessons with no yoga experience needed.
This has just upset me so much. Its the first time ever from following you guys and supporting the channel that I have been so upset for you all. I dont think I'll forget the emotion in your voice ever, G. You are a top top man and I am so darned proud of you for defendng your family from knuckle dragging idiots. Chin up. its one event out of lots of memories and thankfully baloons like those two are rare. Dont let them taint using woolfie or make you second guess using him. He's brilliant. You are all brilliant and its a brilliant life affirming channel. I'll tell you in person one of these days when we meet and I can tell you about my amazing nephews.
Much love- Kenny
and I'm so sorry that I was so upset I didnt comment on the best part of the video cos you filmed some stunning scenery.
Thanks Kenny, Maximus was really upset. They just didn't understand why we were asking the to leave and move away. Only when Maximus was already crying and rocking from the incident with the wife. I didn't show it as he doesn't want to see it again. I always ask him what he would like in the videos. It is only fair. They didn't go away proper till he was screaming and pressing the horn for long periods.
Thankfully our boy is well supported and loved and we took the time after the incident to reassure him he did nothing wrong and that they were not very nice people. His innocence and trusting of other people is still there and he still loves his Wolfie. We talked to him about what he wanted to do after that situation, about moving or going home - which ever he chose we would follow his wishes. He chose to stay and wanted to move away from the nasty people. He wanted to stay his one more night of his holiday. We moved and reassured him again and settled him down.
Thankfully he woke up happy and the people next to us were lovely with him, we spent an hour talking to them and he explored in their van and asked a million questions. They definitely helped him forget about what the night before had brought. I probably sound like I was having a moan about them - when in reality I have no problem with what they were doing. They left no trace and turned everything down at a reasonable time. We had just had a fill and wanted calm, part of the reason we seek out places of solitude to camp in the first place
Maximus has had another adventure since in Wolfie and is looking forward to his next after Christmas. He is midering me everyday to do the jobs that need doing for the colder weather 😊
@@traveling-taylors this has made me happy 🙂
I’m so sorry to hear you all went through this, in the moment it’s bloody terrifying…. Myself and friend were in a similar position….a man didn’t like her dog (15 months old poodle).. so he kicked the dog and then came at us when we tried protecting the dog… he was nose to nose, bright red, veins popping, spitting as he shouted his diatribe (hates campers it seems)… I put my arm out and instructed him to “back off, step back” he took that really badly, he went to hit me 😮… he completely lost it…. Luckily I was able to move side on and he hit past me….. my dad taught all of his daughters well, Iv done BUJ, MMA and boxing for over 25 years…. I had trained my whole life for that interaction…. I wrapped myself around him like a snake, took his back and rear naked choke until he dozed off… then I lifted his legs to help him come around and suggested again “back off” he tried one last attack and again missed his target, at that point I hit him and we left…. He was shouting “I will get you next time”…. There are some dreadful people about… he was an angry drunk little man…. Everyone should learn self defence on some level…. I think it saved us…. Once your limbic system kicks in, it’s really hard to think outside of frames, so the more you practice the more natural it is…. Meet them with the same level of violence they meet you and if they do go nose to nose, exceed their level of violence, he really underestimated his marks that night
You handled it beautifully, clear instructions and you held your own, bloody scary
Thank you so much for your comment. I can't believe some horrible human kicked your dog 😢 and then went nose to nose with you. He definitely picked on the wrong person when he chose you though and good for you for defending yourself properly 👍
Hopefully you taught him a tough lesson that he cannot go around behaving in that way.
Thank goodness you are adept at handling yourself.
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It happens everywhere, sadly. Enjoyed the video. I miss travelling in England.
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You did the right thing with the drone in high winds if you get stuck just decrease the altitude not too low to water though as this can cause sensor issues :) put it in sports mode & bring it back home again :)
Thanks for watching, yeah the drone was a bit sketchy for a minute. As I Brough it down the wind seemed to get stronger as it came up and over the dam. Got it back though and happy with that result :-)
Makes me concerned about travelling solo to races or meet ups. All you want to do is break up a journey or enjoy a sunset get a good rest & get off early.
These idiots with ‘percieved’ rights both local and visiting need to be a more respectful and considerate to sharing natures beauty spots and we’ll all run along nicely.
I don't know how you kept it together???? I'll definitely remember the phrase & coach hubby to reach for ‘please step back from my door and out of my personal space’ rather than a bat 😆!
Thanks for sharing. Solid effort for control! You & the Mrs. x
I wouldn't be to worried, we have done 44 nights in the van now since we first went out at the end of summer hols last year and that is the only incident we have had. They are apparently known locally for being not very nice and that's to the local folk. The rest of the time we have met really nice people and found some really lovely spots. We are just planning now for easter :-)
All I could think was I don't want to have to fight in front of Maximus, nor did I want to swear or shout if possible. He did swear and put his face right in mine. There was a time in my life when the reaction would have been very different, now though I just keep remembering Maximus ( although he looks 15 ) is 12 with the social and emotional understanding of a 4 year old. When he goes into meltdown he can hit out at us. We try so hard to explain and show that is not the way. You can hear the adrenalin in my voice trying to not move into full on fight, I was scared I would have to when he didn't move back.
Thankfully in the end they left and we had to move as Maximus was already upset and would not have settled there.
Thank for watching and commenting, hopefully you will enjoy a few more. Take a look at the village in Northumberland from the summer, that one will make you feel better about everything :-)
Our NC500 went without a hitch mixing up campsites, overnight paid stays in the carpark & stealth in laybys when tired and too dark to know the mountainous roads to be safe driving.
I love my 10-14 days away exploring and short overnighters but mainly long weekends doing the sports I love and hanging with friends.
More people are finding car camping accessibleso hopefully less restrictions and more facilities opening up year around like pubs, car parks & camping spots plus surf beaches, lakeside access, forests and nature reserves. Viva la van life!!!
You did nothing wrong bro just protecting your family, why can't people just leave campers alone.
Having a Neurodiverse child can be the hardest job in the world. You acted perfectly in that situation and Maximus is lucky to have you as a role model and a father.
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Lots of respect mate you handled that really well. Im in the Peak District quite often if you ever fancy going back give us a shout and we could arrange a meet up.
Thanks, just trying to show Maximus a way with words. It's so important with his developmental delay, he is so young and impressionable in his development and already so big :-)
Been round your neck of the woods over the past few days for half term. Stayed at Chevin Forest last night, it was misty when we went up to the tops this morning - still a great view.
A meet up could always be a possibility :-) Thanks for watching and commenting.
We all have to protect our families, that's perhaps one of the oldest of human instincts. Here in the US, these type of encounters unfortunately escalate fairly quickly, but I have always counselled my husband to refrain from violence if at all possible. We have so many mental health issues that can easily escalate, and most people don't want to harm a mentally ill individual if at all possible. We are finishing the years long task of raising 2 special need granddaughters, and hope to go on our own "vanlife" adventures in another year, but based on the fact it will be in the US, we will have protection stashed against the worst case scenarios...
Thanks for watching and commenting. I don't envy you guys in the US. I'm so glad guns were banned in the UK. Still knife attacks are on the rise. I agree though an outcome without violence (especially when Maximus is involved) is the best resolution 🙂
Thank you
Gutted for you guys. We just watched and enjoyed your vlog. We found you by accident just one of those videos that autoplay when you don't stop the last one you are watching. So glad we found you, we have subscribed. We do a little CZcams but more on Facebook.
Were the women and the old guy related? They were bang out of order. So unnecessary to speak to anyone like that what ever their problem. Well done for handling it so well, not sure I could have done.
It is because of people like that we couldn't wait to get over to Europe for the winter.
Hope to see you down the road and if we do please say hello. Douglas would love to meet you and especially Maximus.
Thank you, yeah they are husband and wife. She confronted Maximus whilst he was alone, as a child on the Spectrum he has developmental delay so he is around 4 in his social understanding. She didn't know that of course so she was getting more angry with him not understanding her ( not that ehat she was saying was correc) she was holding her dog to try and intimidate him. When I moved between them and gor Maximus back in the van she came at me. I pointed out it where it stated public access and no public access. She left and then the husband came at me like he did.
Maximus also has anxiety and that left him very upset. We moved because he didn't want to stay. No need for any of it.
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I'm so sorry that your family had such an uncomfortable situation. Staying calm and collected is the best way imo😊
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If that’s you losing your cool… you’ve done better than I would have. I think you were amazingly restrained given your wife and son were with you. I would have reported that behaviour. Hope Maximus is ok ❤
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What's wrong with these sad people. Thought you were very restrained. They need to seek help!
I agree, they do need to seek help as they may come across somebody who isn't quite as restrained.
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You dealt with that really well. Hope you're all ok.
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If someone comes up to your van for whatever reason & if they’ve negative in any way always leave soon after don’t bother hanging around thinking nothing more of it it’s the same thing as when you park somewhere but you get a gut feeling something not right so you move on
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At the end of the day you are human and anybody in your position I am sure would have acted in the same way? Those people were gunning for a fight as it is obvious they do not like children, dogs or human beings enjoying our beautiful country! Please don’t get upset over this as this is the life we live in now unfortunately!!
Loved your vlog! Xxx
Thank you :-) I don't think you are wrong about them - a couple of people have said in the comments they are known locally and are just not very nice.
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People like that hate themselves, so they hate others.
I think that you handled that like most people would have. The old feller may do that to the wrong person one day!!
I assume they lived nearby and didn’t like the fact that you was parked there?
It’s unfortunate that there really are some horrible people around.
The kind of place we would likely park up, we prefer to be parked alone for the peacefulness.
Happy Travels 😊
Yeah he is local and works at the water treatment plant that was close to where we parked.
Unfortunately he really is going to come across somebody who will not be as controlled as Graham was.
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You handled it well mate. I wish I could do the same in situations. I would have lost it , which is not clever. Don’t let it put you off
Thank you. We haven't let it stop us at all - had several adventures since - without any issues for the most part.
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New subscriber, CZcams recommended your vid. Love Derbyshire, sorry to hear of your experience, you handled it really well. Atb..😊
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you did the right thing as you had your family with you you don't want to be fighting in front of your son so all you can do is stand your ground then find somewhere else to sleep .
The old fella would have regretted doing that to me BIG time. I'll be parking there overnight waiting for him and her. Just me and my two very big dogs. Maybe I'll go round their house.
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What people.I think you did the right thing.Real sad people.Lets hope it didn’t spoil your holiday.Thankyou for the video.
Thank you. We didn't let them spoil our holiday 🙂
Hi, you did the right thing, you stood your ground and the last thing you want is your son to see is his his Dad fighting, a phone call to the police can sometimes work wonders, especially if you have footage, good luck on your travels 🙏
Thank you. I have just said to someone else who said to get a pipe and jump out screaming and waving my arms. That's not what I want to show my son, especially since he has developmental delay and the emotional understanding of a 4 year old when it comes to stuff like that.
I had fear that I might have to fight in front of my son and I just don't want that for him.
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Too be honest Guys my brother was disabled. And i wouldn't of stood for that for sure . Being the way those horrible people was with you. I would kept it calmly, then i would of said how you said mate get away from my space.
Lucky for me mate. We have a good CCTV on our van. Id definitely get one yours selves as an extra percussion.
Some nasty people out there...
Was a lovely adventure you showed us and explored. Amazing drone. And great footage. I flew my drone once in high winds in sport mode it was no problem lol. Even had trouble to land it . Would you believe. It was my phantom pro 4. I lower d it to head height.
And took it by hand and turned the motors off manually...
So sorry you had to go through this horrible ordeal with nasty people out there.
Weldone Maximus for starting wolfie...❤❤❤
Thanks Tim, the newer bigger drones have a better wind rating. The little Mini 2 gets us some great shots for now.
Maximus loves starting the Van, it makes his day sometimes :-)
You got any new adventures planned?
I think you handled it well and piloting your drone back to you..
@traveling-taylors on about going back to whitby and going maybe where you went lake district. I've had to get a better fridge freezer as solar not as good lol. Battery amazing though.
The Lake District has had some amazing snow fall. The van just isn't quite ready for the cold yet. Been doing a bit but the weather isn't helping
@traveling-taylors what sort of problems mate. You mean mechanical or inside etc
I live in the US, the State of Florida. People here don't often bang on someone's car and threaten others. Many of us are armed and legally carry firearms. Our laws permit us to stand our ground, no duty to retreat. And our vehicles are covered by what is called the "Castle Doctrine", meaning our homes and cars are, our castle and can be defended...should be defended. Certainly our wives and children fall under that doctrine. We have a God given right. to defend ourselves and have retained the right to be armed to ensure our own safety. Contrary to media reports, we are not a lawless society. At least in Florida, and other states like Texas, Arizona, Alaska and some others; we are quite polite to each other. And if threatened, we exercise our judgement, skills and common sense (most of the time) in making decisions that are best for us. Sometimes it is best to retreat, but we are not obligated to and can use deadly force to defend our selves and loved ones...and be home by dinner. This fellow, his wife and her menacing dog, would probably have stayed home and carped about traveler's in vans, on their Facebook page (maybe not the dog).
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Unfortunately for the dog he was just following instruction. It's never the dogs fault, always how they are brought up.
I know you guys over in the states can and do still carry firearms, and like dogs, the gun is only dangerous if the owner needs it to be. We don't have guns on the streets anymore, well not legally - there is still and element of gun and knife crime. A number of decades back we had a mass shooting and firearms were banned. I am thankful for that really, we haven't had an incident like that since and for the majority of us we can breath easier without them.
They just weren't nice people I think, others from round that way have said he is known locally. I don't think he expected me to push back instantly and move him out. He lost his point straight away. Thankfully words were all that I needed as I really want to show Maximus that is the way :-)
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@@traveling-taylors always carry some treats: Dogs are easily co-opted. As for its owners, well done! Not showing weakness, but standing up to this fellow, better, giving him commands which he followed, changed the dynamic. I hope that is your last such encounter and that you and family have happy trails from here on…
I travel on my own with 2 Jack Russell dogs. Thankfully I’ve never had anything like this happen to me. I’m not sure what the problem was as you didn’t show why these idiots felt the need to harass you but I’m presuming they did not like you being there even though you were legally parked and not causing a nuisance. You were very respectful from the footage shown and you were calmer than I would have been. Don’t let it put you off, there are lots of nice people out there that I have bumped into on my travels.
We were just minding our own business, not making any noise. They just didn't want us there and felt they had a right to tell us so 🤷
Happened to me a few times . I can go from calm to hyper aggresion in a millisecond . They will always back off... I am also a petty git & if I know their address I will order a 12yd skip from every skip hire company in the area.
This has made me chuckle. I can just imagine somebody coming home from work to unwanted skips dotted about the place. 😂
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Poor lad, I hope he is ok. Some people are just hateful, they seem us living the dream and are jealous. I've lived in my van 5 years now and had a few things like this, it's very troubling but finally I have a farmers field to live on, finally I can sleep in peace
He did very well and he loves the Van. We look for quiet places to give him a little independence. Unfortunately some people are just not nice.
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From my exoerience in security , he was no threat to you what so ever .
His voice was nervous , him crossing his arms was a sign of him feeling threatened and he really didnt want to be there after he was forced to step back !
Probably egged on by the wife ...
You did the right thing , standing your ground verbally.. id be saying the opposite if you had hit him so well done !!
Thanks for watching and commenting, you are probably right :-) she wasn't at all nice to Maximus
Well handled, I'd say. We've all met these people and unless you fancy a spell in prison, there's no good way to deal with them.
If nothing else, he earned you a new sub! Cheers for the vid!
thanks for watching, commenting and the Sub.I just tried to stay as calm as possible with Maximus sat there :-)
What a lovely family by the way. X.
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I never use park for a night. Its ruined lots of quiet park ups. Full time for 18 years now, its best to use google earth and once you find an awesome spot, keep stum, the more that know, the more chance it will upset locals, rightly or wrongly.
We have found a few nice spots off the beaten track. It is convenient to try and find a place sometimes :-)
I think you were protecting your family that’s all . There behaviour was disgusting and unacceptable sadly to many of types today. Your were a dad . He is lucky you dident properly put him in the picture. 👍
Thanks, that was the basic instinct.
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Not in the 12 years of holidaying in our campervan have we had someone coming knocking or any comments from anyone. We off grid most of the time. I'm sorry you experienced that.The only thing we experienced on our trip to Slovenia last year were people discussing our number plate pointing at it. Since the rules changed on displaying GB we replaced it with a plain 1, well a pheasant on the Shetland isle's ran into us and we didn't get a new 1 with UK on. People were so confused by it.😂
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Tbh it is the only thing we have run into in our travels so far, a few people have been on and said they are known locally and are not very nice people. Just one of those things and we have been out and about since with no problems.
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I've got two neighbours like this. Very confrontational and sarcastic & i ignore them ..i mean i could sort him with one right hander but it's the legal stress afterwards
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I,ve been there ,done that ,and bought the t shirt, you,ve got to be cautious and carefull out there , especially when Wild camping 🎨🖌️
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I’m so sorry this happened. People can be so horrible, why do they have to ruin things. I’m always worried about this as a lady camper by myself. I think my little dog would be scared too!
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Rule number one in life is: 1. Never, ever, ever give in to bullies of any kind...
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Get yourself a powerful torch. An LEP ( laser excited phosphor) or LED thrower would do the trick. No matter how big or aggressive a person is they are immediately at a disadvantage when they can’t see!
Funnily enough I have an older 6 cell mag light, that can definitely produce some light, might have to get some new batteries for it :-)
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New sub. Great video and what a great Dad you are for the way you dealt with the situation. 100% did the right thing.
It's pathetic that some locals think they own the countryside. The best "weapon" so to speak is not giving them ammunition by parking legally, being quiet at late hours and leaving zero rubbish etc. If they still start something then, all is fair game. Handled like a true gent and father. As a wild camper/hiker myself, the ONLY thing I wver worry about (worry as in expect to possibly spoil the trip) is other people. There are delusional people out there who have zero self awareness and 100% self entitlement who have either never been told no, are used to getting away with bullying or simply think they own the 10 square miles around their rural home. I'm a Yorkshireman myself and you handled the situation just as I would.
On a lighter note, once I was cycling/camping in rural Somerset and stayed in one remote spot with my bike and tent in one spot for 3 days to ride out some bad weather. Some lovely dear old lady brought me a flask of fresh coffee and home made sandwiches as she had spotted me (walking her dog) on day 2 and realised what I was doing. Gives you hope in society again. Good people need to stick together.
All the best - Mark 😊
There are still a lot of nice folk about and the majority of interactions we have had have been positive. You get them everywhere unfortunately and it does seem to be increasing in numbers.
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@@traveling-taylors You are very welcome. I haven't done van life before but have cycled/camped countless times. My next trip is heading to fort William to do the cape wrath trail. Cannot wait. I'll be taking a drone too so should get some amazing sunrises etc. Best wishes - Mark
Considering that you had both Max and your wife with you I believe you acted correctly.
Just subscribed so will spend some time catching up ! Thanks for sharing.
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You handled it correctly. You were protecting yourself and your family.
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Kudos for keeping your cool. I don't think I would have.
Hi, thank you for taking the time to comment. I struggled to stay calm but I managed as our autistic son was with us and getting really stressed out with the whole situation