I wanted to get the NB’s so I asked the Mrs to order me a paid from Amazon. End result was canceled all my credit cards. With cash in hand walked into my first shoe store In years and come out these. I need Wides 😂😂😂😂
We gotta catch up soon! People are begging for more Element videos. I have a few already pre-loaded but my timing is off due to life. I'm thinking of doing a straight week of Element videos. I want to add you in the mix somehow some way. Keep doing your thing...when the time comes I will reach out!
@@pattayperformance Dude I just gotta say your message is true. You give the praise to God and that's awesome man. I know God will continue to bless you and your family. Congrats by the way on the stocks. Of course anytime we can always do a virtual tour of each other's cars or something 👍
Thank you! Dry grass not so much of an issue. I knew this was going to happen but not this extent. Still blows my mind why would TORO thinks it’s OK that the same motor on the 20-22” line would be OK for a 30” mower 🤬
@@pattayperformance yes quite agree, the engine should be more powerful. Otherwise a good all round mower for work. Mine has started to suddenly get higher rpm after long usage just for a few seconds and then settle down to normal rpm, not sure why, perhaps its the fuel line getting blocked or filter?
Congrats on the trading nephew, for the time master, set it at the highest setting, do a pass, then medium, do a pass, then the setting you want.... Also check your pulleys, and belts,and last but not least, blade timing.
Thanks Uncle… It was on the highest setting and like an idiot I didn’t think to cut down the passes like a snowblower. None use on that. Honestly didn’t even cross my mind when editing. The only thing that crossed my mind when editing was I should have never used to side discharge chute. I should have kept it Wide open. After this hard mow for sure…I want to pull covers and check timing. Taryl showed me how to time the blades a few years ago. Memory serves me correct one at 12-6 and the other 3-9.
@@pattayperformance That was one of the biggest contributing factors too the machine bogging down that extra side chute piece. Which was building up and bogging down the machine. It couldn't breath freely you always go through tall wet grass like this so the engine and more importantly blades can run and breath as freely as possible. Then go over it via bagging or mulching. Blades also make a HUGE difference i love the gator blades on mine they cut through like butter. Went through 2ft of wet heavy grass with the newer 10cc engine which is 14hp and 10 foot pounds of torque like butter. The older model had the 8cc engine which bogged down quite a bit.
I actually mowed tall wet grass (side discharged) with the flap propped up with a stick and it did very well. Except I was using a 22in mower. 190cc briggs quantum
Yeah i wonder if this guy was mulching or actually side-discharging. Because if this is the newer model it should have the stronger 223cc engine. Which translate too 14hp folks along with it's 10 foot pounds of torque. And in side-discharge mode their is a video here on CZcams of a guy going through 3ft of grass with this machine without ANY issues. However, heavy wet tall grass like this you side-discharge first and THEN go over it in mulch or bag mode. That goes for ANY walk behind machine. Blades also make the difference as others have mentioned on here. Properly set-up this machine would have gone through that or should have like butter.
This is the 190cc Model and this is the best looking and operating Timemaster on CZcams GUARANTEED 190cc Engine Jetted Carb RPMS Increased to Matched Increased Fuel Flow Aluminium Pulleys G5 Gator Blades Last year I swapped the 190cc to a 223cc as well as Ballard Ripper Blades and GAME CHANGER
@@pattayperformance sorry, it's Briggs not kawasaki lol, but it is the 223cc it came with it. It's the new model. You can check out my vids and see it for yourself
@@JonsDailyHustle I did…looked at your thumbnails and can spot it a mile away. Revisit your unboxing video and see the recoil has a B&S Sticker. None the less how do you like it? Throw the OEM blades in the garbage and get yourself a set of gator blades.
The reason the Toro wasn’t doing so well with that tall grass is because the blades you were using are blades that are good for mulching instead of side discharging. A high lift blade is best for side discharging.
Toro runs the Atimic Blades…junk. Gator blades have more teeth and more lift. If you look at previous videos…timemaster does well. I noticed instantly the quality of cut when I moved from Atomic to gator. Thanks for the view and comment, hopefully you subscribed to my channel 🇺🇸🤙🏻🔧🦅
Yep. An non mulching blade with high lift helps a ton with the clumping and clogs. Also finding a way to run without the plastic side discharge chute attached. Use a bungee cord to hold up the mulch closer so the grass can discharge easier.
I did cutting this grass! ahhh I messed up my yard got some discoloration. Not sure if it’s fungus or burn. I put down an application and watering 2x a day till it comes back 🤙🏻🇺🇸🦅🔧. Open to suggestions from a pro
Watching and hearing the painful sound of the Timemaster reminded me of why I got rid of mine in 2013. I don't even miss that thing. The mower struggles to cut tall, thick, and wet grass. Big for nothing is what it is.
1/3 rd rule bud !! When u shovel 2-3’ of snow to u shovel from the bottom of that 3’ or do u take from the top and slowly work your way to the bottom!! Exactly my point.
Excellent video on how not to cut an overgrown lawn. The issue are tall wet grass(as stated) but also the depth of the deck. Timemaster is a homeowner mower so the deck is shallow when compared to commercial decks. Its not a engine issue. Briggs 223cc is a solid engine for the Timemaster. There is not a homeowner mower that would not have the same or worse issues.
Unfortunately it’s not the 223cc Motor it’s the OG 190cc Motor. Even the Turfmaster would struggle In this situation. The Kawi also lacks power in this situation as well. Research leads me to the 9HP Kawi off an Older Deere or Honda GCV190 with a 200 Jet. Timemaster spoiled me as I’m a sucker for Key Start. As soon as the New Kohler rolls out with key start I will make the jump. Nothing beats the cut quality of a Time Master as far as Push Mowing goes with 30” cut or Below! I’m also running a baffle kit as well. As shown many times before, when the Timemaster is in good running order as well as the grass not being wet or well overgrown it’s a phenomenal cut. I run KTF31 and cut at 3.75-4” height. Thanks for the view and comment, hopefully you subscribed to my channel 🇺🇸🦅🔧🤙🏻
I believe it just I don’t want to give up the key start. I know people who have swapped a Honda off a pressure washer with no issues. The new turfmasters come with a Kohler…rumor is later this year Kohler is going to release the same 224 motor with electric start. I’ll bite them! 🦅🇺🇸🤙🏻🔧
@@pattayperformance Yeah I got 3 predator engines on ebay was new return engines got for $25 each. Sleeve adapter was $10. Heck of a lot cheaper and engine is easy pulling my 9 year old can start it easily.
@@pattayperformance I added throttle cable off a junk mower, I also got another brand new predator engine NIB with extended warranty for $50 which cost prolly close to $200 total. I find the deals...
@@pattayperformance Also when cutting tall grass like yours I don't use the discharge chute. Remove that, add a bolt between the mulch cover and a nylon locknut underneath the deck where the grass comes out. It doesnt get clogged up.
Mr. P., first, Mrs. P. Is always right! I know this and I am sure you do as well. I hope those new sneaks are steel toe so when Mrs.P. steps on you toes again with her stilettos, it does not hurt. Next time, consider erecting a electric fence and getting a couple of heifers! Great Job Mr. P.!🇺🇸
My God Cut Grass at twice height you started at Have Side and rear shoots open 2nd Pass 90 degree to 1st pass Rack or Blow clippings Final Cut Slow Mulching
Never thought the rear flap part bc I don’t want grass all over me. Keep in mind I’m using the 190cc Time Master which is under powered! Waiting for Kawi or Kohler to come out with Key Start and I’m game for a motor swap. I ain’t raking 🤣
I get what you are saying…this is the 190cc underpowered version. I did do some tweaking to the machine for optimal performance. I do have a updated video where I installed a bigger motor as well as new style blade and IT RIPS
No no no Jason you can't cut grass in white shoes.. Chris will blow a gasket.. young man put your gum boots on.. I am surprised that the mower did struggle so much.
The mower has the same engine as your typical 21” mower 🤬. I’m waiting for Kohler to come out the 224 with electric start. I’m not giving up electric start 🤣. As I get on in years I enjoy the finer things in life. Like white sneakers with extra cushion! 🤙🏻🦅🇺🇸🔧🙃
He shouldn't be using that side extension piece at all. That is contributing too A LOT of build-up which in turn bogs the machine down. It needs too BREATH so it can discharge cleanly and properly.
I don't understand your statement so keep that in mind with my response. The longer the clippings stay inside the mower the finer they get chopped up as well as run the risk of bogging down the engine. Side Discharge Chute attached gives the grass an exit point and less chance of bogging down the engine. If you watch other videos of Landscapers who do overgrown properties they are all side discharging and some of them will prop up back grass flap on push mows for more power. Thanks for the view and comment.
This was a great video to watch. It had it all, knowledge, comedy, and great results. Brand new WHITE shoes, haha!!! And that shirt is great!
I wanted to get the NB’s so I asked the Mrs to order me a paid from Amazon. End result was canceled all my credit cards. With cash in hand walked into my first shoe store In years and come out these. I need Wides 😂😂😂😂
That was FANTASTIC video, I laughed pretty DAMM heavily!🤣🤣🤣
Haha bro that opening scene had me dead 😂,🤣🤣
We gotta catch up soon! People are begging for more Element videos. I have a few already pre-loaded but my timing is off due to life. I'm thinking of doing a straight week of Element videos. I want to add you in the mix somehow some way. Keep doing your thing...when the time comes I will reach out!
@@pattayperformance Dude I just gotta say your message is true. You give the praise to God and that's awesome man. I know God will continue to bless you and your family. Congrats by the way on the stocks. Of course anytime we can always do a virtual tour of each other's cars or something 👍
I have exactly the same with my timemaster cutting tall grass and wet and even tall dry grass , great video
Thank you! Dry grass not so much of an issue. I knew this was going to happen but not this extent. Still blows my mind why would TORO thinks it’s OK that the same motor on the 20-22” line would be OK for a 30” mower 🤬
@@pattayperformance yes quite agree, the engine should be more powerful. Otherwise a good all round mower for work. Mine has started to suddenly get higher rpm after long usage just for a few seconds and then settle down to normal rpm, not sure why, perhaps its the fuel line getting blocked or filter?
Ed bassmaster attempts to mow!!
No act...the real deal
that's some serious thick grass there. times I have mowed that I have had to just remove the defector and hold open the flap with a bungy cord
As I was editing this video I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully I never make this mistake again! 🤗
Congrats on the trading nephew, for the time master, set it at the highest setting, do a pass, then medium, do a pass, then the setting you want.... Also check your pulleys, and belts,and last but not least, blade timing.
Thanks Uncle…
It was on the highest setting and like an idiot I didn’t think to cut down the passes like a snowblower. None use on that. Honestly didn’t even cross my mind when editing. The only thing that crossed my mind when editing was I should have never used to side discharge chute. I should have kept it Wide open. After this hard mow for sure…I want to pull covers and check timing. Taryl showed me how to time the blades a few years ago. Memory serves me correct one at 12-6 and the other 3-9.
@@pattayperformance That was one of the biggest contributing factors too the machine bogging down that extra side chute piece. Which was building up and bogging down the machine. It couldn't breath freely you always go through tall wet grass like this so the engine and more importantly blades can run and breath as freely as possible. Then go over it via bagging or mulching. Blades also make a HUGE difference i love the gator blades on mine they cut through like butter. Went through 2ft of wet heavy grass with the newer 10cc engine which is 14hp and 10 foot pounds of torque like butter. The older model had the 8cc engine which bogged down quite a bit.
I actually mowed tall wet grass (side discharged) with the flap propped up with a stick and it did very well. Except I was using a 22in mower. 190cc briggs quantum
Yeah i wonder if this guy was mulching or actually side-discharging. Because if this is the newer model it should have the stronger 223cc engine. Which translate too 14hp folks along with it's 10 foot pounds of torque. And in side-discharge mode their is a video here on CZcams of a guy going through 3ft of grass with this machine without ANY issues. However, heavy wet tall grass like this you side-discharge first and THEN go over it in mulch or bag mode. That goes for ANY walk behind machine. Blades also make the difference as others have mentioned on here. Properly set-up this machine would have gone through that or should have like butter.
This is the 190cc Model and this is the best looking and operating Timemaster on CZcams GUARANTEED
190cc Engine
Jetted Carb
RPMS Increased to Matched Increased Fuel Flow
Aluminium Pulleys
G5 Gator Blades
Last year I swapped the 190cc to a 223cc as well as Ballard Ripper Blades and GAME CHANGER
At least you followed the 1/3 rule 🤣
X8 😂
Great video man. I think this weekend I might do a LawnCutting video.
I've been putting my time master through some hell this season so far, I'm definitely loving it
What size motor you have on it?
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@@pattayperformance it's the 10ft lbs torque kawasaki motor. I think it's 6.75 hp or something like that
@@JonsDailyHustle unless you swapped it…
You have the Briggs 190cc like mine or the newer one Briggs 223cc
@@pattayperformance sorry, it's Briggs not kawasaki lol, but it is the 223cc it came with it. It's the new model. You can check out my vids and see it for yourself
@@JonsDailyHustle I did…looked at your thumbnails and can spot it a mile away.
Revisit your unboxing video and see the recoil has a B&S Sticker.
None the less how do you like it? Throw the OEM blades in the garbage and get yourself a set of gator blades.
The reason the Toro wasn’t doing so well with that tall grass is because the blades you were using are blades that are good for mulching instead of side discharging. A high lift blade is best for side discharging.
Toro runs the Atimic Blades…junk. Gator blades have more teeth and more lift.
If you look at previous videos…timemaster does well. I noticed instantly the quality of cut when I moved from
Atomic to gator.
Thanks for the view and comment, hopefully you subscribed to my channel 🇺🇸🤙🏻🔧🦅
Don’t care what blades you put on there grass has to be dry and not to tall and thick or wet!
I would have the flap definitely tied up aswell in this type of grass and no chute ,it's pretty impossible for any mower to mulch high wet grass .
Yep. An non mulching blade with high lift helps a ton with the clumping and clogs. Also finding a way to run without the plastic side discharge chute attached. Use a bungee cord to hold up the mulch closer so the grass can discharge easier.
Wow 6 weeks no cut?! I woulda lost my mind lol! Looks goooooddd 👍👍
I did cutting this grass! ahhh I messed up my yard got some discoloration. Not sure if it’s fungus or burn. I put down an application and watering 2x a day till it comes back 🤙🏻🇺🇸🦅🔧. Open to suggestions from a pro
Watching and hearing the painful sound of the Timemaster reminded me of why I got rid of mine in 2013. I don't even miss that thing. The mower struggles to cut tall, thick, and wet grass.
Big for nothing is what it is.
You should def revisit the platform the 220cc Is A Game Changer..pair it with Ballard Blades and OMG!
@@pattayperformance When the opportunity arises, I sure will.
Well brother I got to say after all that grass looks good
1/3 rd rule bud !! When u shovel 2-3’ of snow to u shovel from the bottom of that 3’ or do u take from the top and slowly work your way to the bottom!! Exactly my point.
can't apply that when you apply seed...got to let the roots penetrate so you don't rip out the grass
Man I could hear that Timemaster screaming all the way in Va. That was tall and thick!!
Honestly I was hoping it blew…give me a reason to swap it out 😂😂😂😂
@@pattayperformance Only You🤔
You should show this video to Toro and see how much they'll pay you to take it down 😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Toro already corrected the issues supposedly with a bigger motor. Only time will tell!
I'm lucky I have a vacant house next door I store my overflow in the yard and I use the grass to test machines
You are very lucky! Keep up the hard work you can own that house! 🤙🏻🦅🇺🇸🤝
You need to go 4 wheelin' ! Find your biggest wheels next time and bolt them on and you'll be ok ! 🤟
Lol this was bad not gonna lie!
we gotta get you a hair cut
Excellent video on how not to cut an overgrown lawn. The issue are tall wet grass(as stated) but also the depth of the deck. Timemaster is a homeowner mower so the deck is shallow when compared to commercial decks. Its not a engine issue. Briggs 223cc is a solid engine for the Timemaster. There is not a homeowner mower that would not have the same or worse issues.
Unfortunately it’s not the 223cc Motor it’s the OG 190cc Motor. Even the Turfmaster would struggle In this situation. The Kawi also lacks power in this situation as well. Research leads me to the 9HP Kawi off an Older Deere or Honda GCV190 with a 200 Jet.
Timemaster spoiled me as I’m a sucker for Key Start. As soon as the New Kohler rolls out with key start I will make the jump. Nothing beats the cut quality of a Time Master as far as Push Mowing goes with 30” cut or Below! I’m also running a baffle kit as well.
As shown many times before, when the Timemaster is in good running order as well as the grass not being wet or well overgrown it’s a phenomenal cut.
I run KTF31 and cut at 3.75-4” height.
Thanks for the view and comment, hopefully you subscribed to my channel 🇺🇸🦅🔧🤙🏻
Brother you putting that knowledge out there I feel the same. I’ve made thousands already with my crypto accounts it’s so awesome
Keep it up champ! 🔧🇺🇸🦅🤙🏻. Majority of my crypto holdings is in ETH!
That grass is about as thick as that mullet
I wish! 😂
I think you may have broken the 1/3 rule 😂
🤣
Rules are made to be broken but as you can see the lawn recovers! Mental breakdown averted 🤣
I've never heard an engine make that knocking like sound that much...maybe it's just the cameras mic?
I have a mower that does the same under a heavy load. 190cc briggs quantum 22in pushmower.
Oh no it was knockin for sure!
@@pattayperformance You mean the engine? Why would it knock like that under an extreme load?
@@norge696 drastic severe change in timing/detonation.
@@pattayperformance ok, but where is the knocking coming from?
Honda here! Toro called me and said it doesn’t like tall grass or wet grass and will stall out in a lot off cases!
🤣🤣🤣
Just wait till you see a video I’m going to post of a Honda wrecking my yard and the grass wasn’t tall nor wet!
Na Get a Ausi Bushranger 53TUK7 smashes honda in long stuff and half the weight and only $699 AUD
On a dry day those shoes fill up with dirt. I mow in boots.
I recently put a harbor freight 173cc engine on my timemaster way better than the stock Briggs engine.
I believe it just I don’t want to give up the key start. I know people who have swapped a Honda off a pressure washer with no issues.
The new turfmasters come with a Kohler…rumor is later this year Kohler is going to release the same 224 motor with electric start. I’ll bite them! 🦅🇺🇸🤙🏻🔧
@@pattayperformance Yeah I got 3 predator engines on ebay was new return engines got for $25 each. Sleeve adapter was $10. Heck of a lot cheaper and engine is easy pulling my 9 year old can start it easily.
@@matthewderickson1121 WOW YOU LUCKY SOB!
Those 173cc Motors aren’t reasonable IMO. Adapter and a throttle cable
@@pattayperformance I added throttle cable off a junk mower, I also got another brand new predator engine NIB with extended warranty for $50 which cost prolly close to $200 total. I find the deals...
@@pattayperformance Also when cutting tall grass like yours I don't use the discharge chute. Remove that, add a bolt between the mulch cover and a nylon locknut underneath the deck where the grass comes out. It doesnt get clogged up.
ahahahahaha the t shirt!!!!!!!!
Mr. P., first, Mrs. P. Is always right! I know this and I am sure you do as well. I hope those new sneaks are steel toe so when Mrs.P. steps on you toes again with her stilettos, it does not hurt. Next time, consider erecting a electric fence and getting a couple of heifers! Great Job Mr. P.!🇺🇸
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not gonna lie these shoes are very comfortable and def not build for speed 😂😂😂
New sneaks soiled with grass stains. Your neighbor would love the livestock! Anything to grind your friendly neighbor!
My God
Cut Grass at twice height you started at Have Side and rear shoots open
2nd Pass 90 degree to 1st pass
Rack or Blow clippings
Final Cut Slow Mulching
Never thought the rear flap part bc I don’t want grass all over me.
Keep in mind I’m using the 190cc Time Master which is under powered! Waiting for Kawi or Kohler to come out with Key Start and I’m game for a motor swap.
I ain’t raking 🤣
Don't Malign the machine! A good carpenter never blames his tools. Properly set up the time master can mow just about anything?
I get what you are saying…this is the 190cc underpowered version. I did do some tweaking to the machine for optimal performance. I do have a updated video where I installed a bigger motor as well as new style blade and IT RIPS
No no no Jason you can't cut grass in white shoes.. Chris will blow a gasket.. young man put your gum boots on.. I am surprised that the mower did struggle so much.
The mower has the same engine as your typical 21” mower 🤬. I’m waiting for Kohler to come out the 224 with electric start. I’m not giving up electric start 🤣. As I get on in years I enjoy the finer things in life. Like white sneakers with extra cushion! 🤙🏻🦅🇺🇸🔧🙃
@@pattayperformance lol getting old.. your still a young gun
Jason slow down your going to fast for the mower alos try some gator blades on it or high lift blades
I have gator blades…I should have ditched the chute and went wide open.
Lesson learned and hopefully never repeated! 🦅🇺🇸🤙🏻🔧
Slow down and don’t push so fast when it’s that thick. You’re going to burn out a belt or your transmission
Next time leave the shute off and bungee cord the door open all the way.
That didn’t cross my mind till I edited the video.
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He shouldn't be using that side extension piece at all. That is contributing too A LOT of build-up which in turn bogs the machine down. It needs too BREATH so it can discharge cleanly and properly.
I don't understand your statement so keep that in mind with my response.
The longer the clippings stay inside the mower the finer they get chopped up as well as run the risk of bogging down the engine. Side Discharge Chute attached gives the grass an exit point and less chance of bogging down the engine. If you watch other videos of Landscapers who do overgrown properties they are all side discharging and some of them will prop up back grass flap on push mows for more power.
Thanks for the view and comment.
Well, I think, You waited a little too long to mow!!
No argument there Mr Bell! How is the warmer weather treating you? Have a toro mower to match your snow blower?