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  • čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
  • Have you ever heard of SpaceX's abandoned Starship Factory? What about Curiosity Stream? Today's SpaceX video is supported by Curiosity Stream. Sign up at curiositystream.com/PrimalSpace using the code ‘PrimalSpace’ and receive one full year for only $14.99.
    What about this abandoned Starship factory though? SpaceX’s site in Boca Chica has become the heart of Starship. Producing the largest and most powerful rocket ever made, it’s no surprise that this tiny town in Texas has received an enormous amount of attention over the last few years. But SpaceX’s lesser known Florida site could have become the Boca Chica we know and love today. This video looks at why SpaceX chose Boca Chica over Florida, what happened to Florida’s Starship and any plans to restart the Florida program.
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Komentáře • 532

  • @primalspace
    @primalspace  Před 2 lety +30

    Do you think Florida will eventually become SpaceX's main Starship factory? - Shout out to CuriosityStream for supporting this vid! Check out curiositystream.com/PrimalSpace

    • @brimstone5931
      @brimstone5931 Před 2 lety +1

      That is a hard question to answer. Of course in the near future Florida will continue launching Falcon 9's as well as beginning to launch Starship, especially with the moon missions approaching. However, long term? Elon already has two ex-oilrigs he is converting to launch platforms. Remember the 'goal' is to colonize mars. So with that in mind, if SpaceX can predict the locations of future launch sites, they may choose a factory location accessible to all. I can imagine in typical Musk style it will be a massive plot, built from scratch like his giga factories.

    • @VanquishedAgain
      @VanquishedAgain Před 2 lety +1

      yes. without question

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.”
      ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:5‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      I

    • @mattg8787
      @mattg8787 Před 2 lety +2

      i live 33 mils from his raptor 2 manufacturing site in McGregor, Texas he is pissing off a lot of people and cracking the foundations of houses

    • @cme98
      @cme98 Před 2 lety

      I don’t like either state but if I had to pick between Texas & Floriduh…. We’ll let’s be real Floriduh doesn’t deserve a pot to shit in. Crime is worse, housing is worse, smog is worse, weather is worse, police are worse, government is corrupt, 42% of all housing is within a corrupt homeowners association, it’s the only state proven in court to have successfully overturned the election of am President by allowing their sec of state to commit fraud & illegally discount legal registered Floriduh voters an act of treason in which nobody in govt was charged of a crime because the man they illegally put in office was the brother of the fucking Governor now how the heck could anyone who claims to be American endorse a pos state who committed treason to put the man not elected into office? Not to mention, remember 90% of the state will be under water in 2100. It seems even GOD hates Floriduh. Don’t blame me, I’m not god.

  • @bigo7062
    @bigo7062 Před 2 lety +314

    "And we have touchdown on mars" would be such a historic statement

  • @TheTimTri
    @TheTimTri Před 2 lety +53

    I visited this site back in August 2019, when they were still actively building the Starship there. We’re from Germany and visited the Cape during a holiday, so being able to see this build site - which was still relatively secret back then - was a life-changing moment. I’m glad it’s getting the recognition it deserves now!

    • @TheAmericanCatholic
      @TheAmericanCatholic Před 11 měsíci

      @N7 more Americans are going to be familiar with Germans than the Dutch people.

  • @SpaceflightRocketShorts
    @SpaceflightRocketShorts Před 2 lety +125

    Never knew how much the Florida site was used before Boca Chica, thank you!

  • @fosteragbor4545
    @fosteragbor4545 Před 2 lety +61

    Great video with amazing quality as always. :D

    • @fosteragbor4545
      @fosteragbor4545 Před 2 lety

      @Michael Jaxton don't focus on bad things. There will be I tiny amount of fake information in every video. However they're are putting lots of effort in their videos and I appreciate that.
      Anyways what information of this video was false and misleading?

  • @sureshnishtala2887
    @sureshnishtala2887 Před 2 lety +3

    Am simply loving these wonderful and very useful info...heard about Florida centre but didnt know some of the insights and with this video I got to know it...thank you :)

  • @mazack00
    @mazack00 Před 2 lety +1

    Great concise video. Thanks for the awesome captions / subtitles!

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz Před 2 lety +14

    I enjoyed this overview, even as an avid tank watcher since 2018. You've got a really smooth style.

  • @alphageeklk2342
    @alphageeklk2342 Před 2 lety +2

    very informative video. keep doing stuff on space x and tesla. love it 💖

  • @dadduck9123
    @dadduck9123 Před 2 lety +8

    I hauled some of the first piping for the launch cooling system, from Titusville, FL. then it was just a sandy field, pretty awesome to see where they are today

  • @rory.a5360
    @rory.a5360 Před 2 lety +2

    I live super close to this place and in cocoa and its cool to see someone acknowledge our small town and the area. i got to drive past it not that long ago.

  • @mathew00
    @mathew00 Před 2 lety

    I wasn't sure if I was going to watch this "Oh, just another Starship video...". I'm so glad I did. Great video!!

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 Před 2 lety +9

    Very good video. Clear, concise, with a solid timeline. Thank you...

  • @stargot1
    @stargot1 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you fo enlightening us the reason behind launch and building sites

  • @Assassin4567a
    @Assassin4567a Před 2 lety

    Great video and production quality. Respect

  • @Sam-ss6yn
    @Sam-ss6yn Před 2 lety +148

    I love these kinds of videos. Please never stop making SpaceX/Tesla videos. Love the work btw, thanks.

    • @muhammadfaiq9266
      @muhammadfaiq9266 Před 2 lety +1

      also, you kinda have my pfp O-O

    • @tgn2502
      @tgn2502 Před 2 lety +1

      i think he makes a bit too many spacex videos, there's a lot of other space topics/companies to explore

    • @vinny142
      @vinny142 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tgn2502 There definately are more realistic projects going on. But the cult of Musk is powerfull and to doubt the great leader is to invoke the wrath of the Musketeers who simply refuse to ever think critically about anything Musk does. There is no need to go to Mars except for research, there is no market for a 100ton payload capacity, starlink cannot ever become profitable and the people it is supposedly made for cannot afford it, the vegas loop is just a tunnel with cars driving laps losing money....
      It's nice to dream and we should explore space and new technology, but we must also remain honest and critical. Musk has lied about being the founder of Paypal and Tesla, he has thuroughly defrauded his shareholders with the solarcity bailout. Just how blind are the muskfans?
      Go on, hate me, you'll thank me later.

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 Před 2 lety

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.”
      ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:5‬ ‭NIV‬‬

  • @danthemanzizle
    @danthemanzizle Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, can't wait to see what starship gigafactory can do.

  • @Cutter-jx3xj
    @Cutter-jx3xj Před 2 lety +1

    I lived in Waco 9 yrs and Space X at McGregor TX was just 12 miles down the road. That's a huge complex as well and employs a lot of people.

  • @rocketman1969
    @rocketman1969 Před 2 lety

    This is amazing quality!

  • @thecooky7744
    @thecooky7744 Před 2 lety +12

    Thank you for the video I live a short distance away from the SpaceX facility in Cocoa have a couple pictures that I took driving past of the starship they were building and I've been wondering what happened there. Something I find funny is from grissom parkway they just built an Amazon warehouse now you can see the SpaceX facility from grissom it's a shame I got a kick ass in that big silver beast going up now I have to wait to see it launched

  • @JimMeeker
    @JimMeeker Před 2 lety +17

    Good video but the title of video needs some work. SpaceX hasn't abandoned Florida at all. In fact it may become their main facility soon, depending on the outcome of the FAA report that should come out soon.

    • @PowerScissor
      @PowerScissor Před 2 lety +3

      The title of all videos on this channel are like that.
      For the 1st half of each video I always feel like I must have clicked on the wrong one because the titles are very misleading.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +2

      SpaceX always planned to launch from Florida. The biggest reason Boca Chica is not likely to be a main hub for Starship launches is the Texas state law on restricting access to public beaches. The Texas legislature had to change that law a few years ago to allow SpaceX even the limited closures that they have now. Boca Chica looks to be restricted to 5 orbital launches and 5 sub-orbital launches a year for Starship. So it is apparently going to be an R&D center and almost certainly support the converted oil rigs in international waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

  • @mattmoquin6943
    @mattmoquin6943 Před rokem +5

    I have always lived off grissom parkway, and when the starship hype started back in 2018-19, I was incredibly invested. You can only imagine when I found out they were building another one right down the road! I have been by a couple times now and I must say that shit is incredible, even if it is the smaller abandoned-like factory. They definitely still get work done out there though!

    • @Kerballistic
      @Kerballistic Před 8 měsíci +1

      I still drive back there from time to time to figure out what they're doing, but I can't quite figure it out. The site is busy, with an active security guard and a full parking lot.

  • @qpwodkgh2010
    @qpwodkgh2010 Před 2 lety

    I never tire of your transitions.

  • @magicworldbyjorg
    @magicworldbyjorg Před 2 lety +1

  • @russellhamer8690
    @russellhamer8690 Před rokem

    This is The Only documentary You'll need to get you upto speed with SpaceX.. Very thorough,little twaddle or jargon..Good Work Sir...

  • @robyn051
    @robyn051 Před 2 lety +10

    Isn’t there active development at KSC right now?

    • @snuffeldjuret
      @snuffeldjuret Před 2 lety +8

      regarding spacex starship infrastructure you mean? Yes, very much so :).

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 Před 2 lety +1

      There are already two sections of the OLT completed awaiting transport to the launch pad when the concrete foundation is finished.

  • @Texle
    @Texle Před 2 lety +52

    The fact that this video could have been called "Why there is an abandoned Starship facility in Texas" is just so cool and amazing to think about!

    • @lesschorlemer5151
      @lesschorlemer5151 Před 2 lety +6

      Boca Chica will still be used. It will be used as the testing site for all future iterations of Starship with at least 5 launches per year taking place for testing.

    • @Round_Slinger
      @Round_Slinger Před 2 lety +7

      @@lesschorlemer5151 if environmentalists have a say, there will never be launches from there. That's why they're accelerating operations in Florida.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Round_Slinger SpaceX always planned to have Starship operations in Florida. Apparently, Boca Chica was as much about learning how to build a Starship launch facility as it is testing Starships. As the video mentions, work at Florida and LC-39A was started before work at Boca Chica really took off. SpaceX paused the work at KSC and now that SpaceX apparently knows what they want from a Starship launch facility, they are restarting work there.
      Les is right about the 5 orbital and 5 sub-orbital launches a year at Boca Chica. It is almost certainly due to the Texas state law about not being able to restrict access to public beaches. The Texas legislature had to modify that law a few years ago to even allow SpaceX the limited closures that they have now. Some Texans are saying that SpaceX closes the beach too much already. So unless Texas pretty much makes Boca Chica beach a private beach, a heavy launch cadence at Boca Chica isn't going to happen.
      One thing this video forgot to talk about is that Crew Dragon, Falcon Heavy, and Falcon 9 launches from LC-39A. IF SpaceX had stayed in Florida, they would have had to work Starship testing around launches from LC-39A. Crew Dragon and Falcon Heavy can only launch from LC-39A right now. Crew Dragon started crew flights in early 2020 and USSF-44 was scheduled to launch in Feb 2021 on Falcon Heavy (it has had payload delays). SLC-40 at CCSFS is only Falcon 9 cargo launches and SpaceX likes to rotate Falcon 9 launches between LC-39A and SLC-40 as much as possible to keep the cadence up.

    • @TimCortesi
      @TimCortesi Před 2 lety +1

      There isn't an abandoned Starship facility in Texas. There's an abandoned Starship facility in Florida.

    • @Wargunsfan
      @Wargunsfan Před 2 lety

      @@TimCortesi Sorry Tex the future of Starship is in Florida where the infrastructure and permitting already exist.

  • @turbofan450
    @turbofan450 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video and topic

  • @arthurwagar6224
    @arthurwagar6224 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for good stuff.

  • @Doggeslife
    @Doggeslife Před 2 lety +26

    With activity growing in Florida, maybe it's time to build the third launch pad that was originally intended for the Apollo rockets.
    Look at the upper right of this diagram where it says "Launch Complex 39". Those 3 black dots are the proposed launch pad sites. Only the lower 2 were built. You can see how a third pad could be added though: www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/images/m240.gif

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +5

      SpaceX is already working with NASA and the FAA for using the unbuilt LC-49 for Starship. It is north of LC-39B, so around where the topmost black dot is from your pic.

    • @Doggeslife
      @Doggeslife Před 2 lety +4

      @@steveaustin2686 That makes sense. LC-39C was going to have an access road for the crawler to move Saturn V's there, but since SpaceX will not be using NASA's VAB and it will be a completely separate operation they re-designated the third pad with a separate moniker. Thanks for the info.
      All of the details for the creation the original site, including LC-39 A and B, the VAB, the crawler and crawler roadway and more can be read here: history.nasa.gov/SP-4204/contents.html

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Doggeslife Thank you for the NASA history link. LC-39C was built in 2015, just not to the plans from the Apollo era. It's apparently a small sat launch pad within LC-39B and no one has used it yet.
      NASA Space Flight has a nice article about LC-49 from late last year.

    • @wpatrickw2012
      @wpatrickw2012 Před 2 lety +1

      @@steveaustin2686 Can you please post a link to that article?

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety

      @@wpatrickw2012 I tried posting it when I made my last post, but every time I tried to post the URL, the post disappeared. Here is the title, author, and date.
      NASA promotes East Coast Starship option at LC-49 following SpaceX interest
      written by Chris Bergin
      December 17, 2021

  • @ParodyOfMine
    @ParodyOfMine Před 2 lety +12

    I've been looking at this place every time I drive to Merritt island

  • @GuardsmanBass
    @GuardsmanBass Před 2 lety +19

    Here's hoping the Florida construction goes well. They might need it if Boca Chica gets hit with the full EIS requirement for Starship.

    • @LoudFlimzz
      @LoudFlimzz Před 2 lety +5

      Nd Elon said they learned a lot from doing all of the GSE at Starbasew, so it might happen on a much faster timeline than in Boca.

    • @executorprime
      @executorprime Před 2 lety +1

      Great Potato showing his disatisfaction for Big E's gunning down the BBB scam.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +1

      SpaceX always planned to launch from KSC. Boca Chica is surrounded by a lot of wildlife reserves, which is why the review is taking so long. The launch complex at Boca Chica is also fairly small. The biggest reason Boca Chica is not likely to be a main hub for Starship launches is the Texas state law on restricting access to public beaches. The Texas legislature had to change that law a few years ago to allow SpaceX even the limited closures that they have now. Boca Chica looks to be restricted to 5 orbital launches and 5 sub-orbital launches a year for Starship. So it is apparently going to be an R&D center and almost certainly support the converted oil rigs in international waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

  • @martinb2424
    @martinb2424 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video!

  • @Jason-gq8fo
    @Jason-gq8fo Před 2 lety +4

    if the enviromental review is delayed again then i bet the florida KSC site will be sped up majorly

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 Před 2 lety +1

      It already has been. Tower sections are already being built, concrete pads are being built, and fuel tanks are already being delivered.

  • @freshmemes1803
    @freshmemes1803 Před 2 lety +9

    Luckily elon confirmed Florida will be the main starship launch site and there is already evidence of it being built

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 Před 2 lety +1

      It was always going to be that way, Florida just has the best options for launch trajectories that don't go over land while also being about as far south as you can get in the US. They'll probably launch out of Vandenberg at some point as well.

    • @freshmemes1803
      @freshmemes1803 Před 2 lety

      @@danieljensen2626 yeah but as far as we knew we didn't know it 100% after they stopped using the old build site.

  • @theboringone.384
    @theboringone.384 Před 2 lety

    I was waiting for you

  • @journeytospace5837
    @journeytospace5837 Před 2 lety

    Great video 🚀

  • @wangson
    @wangson Před 2 lety

    Fascinating!!!

  • @munkandbear2818
    @munkandbear2818 Před 2 lety

    The wife and I were at Boca Chica Beach 2 weeks ago and there were a lot of concrete trucks pouring at the launch site area.

  • @avap0n459
    @avap0n459 Před 2 lety +5

    The title is really confusing as spacex is doing work in florida to support launches of starship

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 Před 2 lety

      Did you not watch the whole video? Because the narrator explains how the Florida site was initially used as kind of a friendly competition with Boca Chica to develop starship and Boca Chica site proved to be more competent in several ways.
      The site that Space X is now using to build starship is at an old Falcon 9 construction site which is being repurposed for starship. That was all in the video.

    • @avap0n459
      @avap0n459 Před 2 lety

      @@michaeldeierhoi4096 I guess you didn't read my comment correctly, I said the *title* not the *video*

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 Před 2 lety

      @@avap0n459 You are right on. I overlooked the title as being misleading. That is all to common on CZcams videos unfortunately. Have a good day.

    • @avap0n459
      @avap0n459 Před 2 lety

      @@michaeldeierhoi4096 Yea, no worries, happens to everyone

  • @smoketinytom
    @smoketinytom Před 2 lety

    2 Videos later and I'm subbed and all notifications on. The only crime I'm guilty of is not finding you earlier.

  • @DrDumas
    @DrDumas Před rokem

    Gosh, I like the structure of the Starship, as Im reminded of the 60's marionette show Thunderbirds are go.❤️🤗🇨🇦

  • @mobilemechanics6565
    @mobilemechanics6565 Před 2 lety

    I seen this all first hand 321 resident worked across the street remember them raising the lines and making the commuter rail tall enough to pass the rocket under

  • @MotorbikeMike
    @MotorbikeMike Před 2 lety

    Good motorcycle riding on the roads around there xD

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this👍🇳🇿

  • @mr.fallen1486
    @mr.fallen1486 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd always wondered why they never did anything with that site

  • @mountaindew267
    @mountaindew267 Před 2 lety

    And now they're building starship facilities in Florida at the Kennedy space center because of the environmental study taking so long at bocca chicca. Gotta have that backup plan.

  • @nuke_m4n
    @nuke_m4n Před 2 lety

    Cant wait for SuperHeavy launch! :D

  • @Cybertruck1000
    @Cybertruck1000 Před 2 lety

    Higher quality video ..thanks. It's how to do it.

  • @JonahDyer
    @JonahDyer Před 2 lety +1

    "Ha. Starship. The Model Ts of interplanetary flight." -some guy from 2122

  • @Raptor2
    @Raptor2 Před 2 lety +26

    Honestly I'm skeptical of how much of a competition this actually was. Elon phrased it like each site had an equal chance of competing/winning but I doubt that's the whole story.

    • @michaelkeaton5394
      @michaelkeaton5394 Před 2 lety

      I just think it's because Elon musk is particulary greedy and stupid so he just baught a crop of land for cheep in texas, ruined the life of the people living there, spend tonnes of money to built a factory and a space port instead of buy land for a bit more money in the kennedy space center that already has all the facility to built and test the spaceship on site...

    • @USNRET610
      @USNRET610 Před 2 lety +9

      Eloy is a master charlatan. Idk why people don't see that. He's a self serving showboat

    • @michaelkeaton5394
      @michaelkeaton5394 Před 2 lety +4

      couldn't agree more

    • @Mike-tg7dj
      @Mike-tg7dj Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaelkeaton5394 amen to that.

    • @OneBiasedOpinion
      @OneBiasedOpinion Před 2 lety +1

      This entire thread is “spaceship man bad” and it gets a good chuckle outta me.

  • @snowvon7160
    @snowvon7160 Před 2 lety

    I thought the thumbnail at first glance was Jeff's attempt at Starship 🤣🤣

  • @fennellyj1
    @fennellyj1 Před 2 lety

    Ive worked on the heat shield project at this site!

  • @bikinglikebecker
    @bikinglikebecker Před 10 měsíci

    Use the boring machines to make a rail tunnel rifling cargo into orbit using hydro power... You can send cargo up every 45 minutes with each orbit of the construction/launch platform...

  • @BTH-ku9jp
    @BTH-ku9jp Před 2 lety

    I was on that job in cocoa running the crane and he's right. NO ROOM TO WORK. But spacex gets it done one way or the other.

  • @johnbugbee3730
    @johnbugbee3730 Před 2 lety

    Having an understanding of manufacturing in Florida, I get the move to Texas.

  • @scottschannel1160
    @scottschannel1160 Před 2 lety +1

    Every time “Starship” take a shot. 😃

  • @saumyacow4435
    @saumyacow4435 Před 2 lety +14

    Bottom line is that Starship will move entirely to Florida at the new larger facility. This will all take time.

    • @someguy6220
      @someguy6220 Před 2 lety +3

      That's just not true? There are allot of benefits to both, but the needs of SpaceX fit well in Texas. The "larger facility" your refering to isin't a thing. The Texas facility is much larger, and has extreme potential for expansion. With time SpaceX will likely expand their focus more on Florida, but as of right now and the next year or two, their main focus will be Texas. Even in 3 or 4 years, Florida's launch capability for starship will be minimal.

    • @someguy6220
      @someguy6220 Před 2 lety

      I might have somewhat agree with you if you didin't put entirely ^

    • @lanceanthony198
      @lanceanthony198 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s not true. No matter what Boca Chica is an important strategic location. It’s the most southern point in the US rockets have ever launched from, it’s coastal right next to a massive body of water, and It’s in Texas which is where Elon has a lot of his projects located.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 Před 2 lety +1

      @@someguy6220 Don't count on it taking that long. You might see the first launch to the Moon from Florida and not Texas.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 Před 2 lety

      @@lanceanthony198 It is however not the furthest point South that a rocket plant has been located in the US.

  • @Q_Channel1
    @Q_Channel1 Před 2 lety

    Is Primal Space the Engineer Guy? Their voices are incredibly similar if not.

  • @warrensmith5777
    @warrensmith5777 Před 2 lety +1

    I think you may have missed the issue SpaceX had with some wild life preservation in Texas that would delay the program. A reason why they moved to FL. Florida may have won because some Texas bureaucrats needed to be assured that some fish wasn't harmed.
    But then I could be wrong.

    • @nickauclair1477
      @nickauclair1477 Před 2 lety

      Completley omitted but not forgotten by the people who care.

  • @S1L3NTG4M3R
    @S1L3NTG4M3R Před 2 lety

    THANKS

  • @CoolSilver
    @CoolSilver Před 2 lety

    SpaceX will be using Florida and Texas for Starship with the primary launch site at Kennedy Space Center. I bet this other site will become another build site again.

  • @whitneylake2107
    @whitneylake2107 Před 2 lety

    Is this old facility for sale ?

  • @Tuuminshz
    @Tuuminshz Před 2 lety

    Good video

  • @doresearchstopwhining
    @doresearchstopwhining Před 2 lety

    Are there any plans to launch starship from Kennedy Space Center? I thought starship was simply too loud and would break windows in the residential areas? If / when one blows up, it will be like a tactical nuke going off right?

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 Před 2 lety

      I live about 2 miles away from this facility in the Canaveral Groves area. During the shuttle years we were told that if the space shuttle blew up on the pad it would be one of the largest non-nuclear bombs ever to go off and would likely blow out windows in the surrounding cities of Cape Canaveral, Merritt Island, Cocoa, and Titusville. In the 90s the Air Force blew up a rocket (much smaller than a space shuttle) off of lanch complex 17 at very low altitude. I was working outside approximately 30 miles away and while you could not feel a shock wave the sound of the blast was so loud we immediately knew something was seriously wrong and thought the explosion was somewhere nearby. When I worked out on the cape, I would park just outside the clear zone for complex 17 (about three miles away) to watch the launches. I could only imagine what it would be like if one of these were to blowup on the pad or at low altitude.

    • @doresearchstopwhining
      @doresearchstopwhining Před 2 lety

      @@floridagunrat1625 Thank you for all the interesting info. Yeah I think this is something people aren't fully appreciating about starship is when one blows up it is going to cause major damage. Have you seen Elon's plans to put a starship base at every major city for earth to earth transportation? Something this obvious has surely not been overlooked and casts doubts on all their plans. Like you said, largest non-nuclear explosion and starship is the biggest of them all.

  • @alldaydevo
    @alldaydevo Před 2 lety

    Awesome

  • @Vatsyayana87
    @Vatsyayana87 Před 2 lety +4

    I miss MK2' shine. Its was the only one that gave the look originally imagined. Not they are just grey, but still amazing.

    • @TecnamTwin
      @TecnamTwin Před 2 lety

      They can still polish them and just might.

  • @waynzignordics
    @waynzignordics Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder if Boca Chica would have won had the second site been the one next to KSC. My bet is it would not, considering the FAA is blocking the test launches at Boca Chica, and SpaceX is now moving to ramp up production at KSC.

    • @TimCortesi
      @TimCortesi Před 2 lety +2

      Saying that Boca Chica "won" is a bit of an overstatement. Certainly Boca was the primary R&D site for Starship for the past couple years, but I expect we'll see the Roberts Road facility at Cape Canaveral become the dominant facility in the near future.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety

      SpaceX is still finishing up Stage 0 at Boca Chica, so the FAA is not blocking SpaceX at this time. And it is almost certainly NOT the FAA that is the hold up. While the FAA is the lead agency in the review, NASA, the Army Corps of Engineers, the US Coast Guard, the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Parks Services have all been part of the review since the beginning. Based on the multiple mentions of "consultations", apparently some issue has come up and the FAA and SpaceX are likely working to mitigate the issue.
      While LC-39A already has FAA approval for Starship (it was designed for twice the size of the Saturn-V), it is also the only launch pad for Crew Dragon and Falcon Heavy. Crew Dragon started flying long before SN8 flew and Falcon Heavy was supposed to launch USSF-44 in early 2021 (payload issues). SpaceX also rotates Falcon 9 cargo flights between LC-39A and SLC-40 as much as possible to keep the launch cadence up. So while Boca Chica needed a new FAA review, SpaceX didn't have to worry about working around KSC flight schedules.
      With the Texas law on closing public beaches, Boca Chica wasn't likely to be a main hub of Starship launches anyway. Musk confirmed that in his last presentation. The Texas legislature had to change Texas law a few years ago to allow the limited closures that SpaceX has now. Some Texans are arguing that SpaceX closes the beach too much already.
      SpaceX had started and paused Starship work on LC-39A before work at Boca Chica took off, so SpaceX was always going to launch Starships from LC-39A. SpaceX and the FAA are already working on using the unbuilt LC-49 north of LC-39B for another Starship launch site.

    • @waynzignordics
      @waynzignordics Před 2 lety

      ​@@steveaustin2686 Good point on the scheduling conflicts Starship development would have caused F9 launches. It's also been clear for nearly a year Boca would not be used for commercial flights but instead spearhead development, so that's another good point. However, you're still wrong about the FAA (of sub-agencies) not delaying Boca. 420 would have flown already had the FAA granted the test license. Stage 0 did not need to be completed before the initial test. But because of the delay, SpaceX moved onto what could be called phase 2 of development: finishing Stage 0 and opting to test Raptor 2 instead of R1. This too is obvious but for some unknown reason many of you keep pretending it's not. /shrugs

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety

      @@waynzignordics With SpaceX completely redoing the methane tanks THIS MONTH to apparently comply with Texas law, you really think SpaceX could have launched B4/S20 before now? With scaffolding on the orbital pad as of last week and the water deluge system STILL yet to be tested. Also, apparently Starship has only done cryo tests as a full stack and not a wet dress rehearsal. And there has yet to be a full static fire for ANY booster. Nah, SpaceX does not look to be ready and how can the review be holding up SpaceX, when SpaceX isn't ready.

  • @viraginjankar4968
    @viraginjankar4968 Před 2 lety +1

    Can u show the plan of Florida site

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety +1

      SpaceX is building the Starship pad off to the side of the LC-39A pad. Crew Dragon, Falcon Heavy, Falcon 9, and Starship will all apparently launch from LC-39A. SpaceX is working with NASA and the FAA about using the unbuilt LC-49 (north of LC-39B) as another Starship launch location at KSC.

  • @PrograError
    @PrograError Před 2 lety

    I wonder why they don't plan to build at boca then launch up to space and then return via Florida after a few trials to be used in actual flights...

  • @Rmm1722
    @Rmm1722 Před 2 lety

    awesome

  • @JfdSummer
    @JfdSummer Před 2 lety +1

    "One giant leap for mankind, One giant run for the HumanRace!"

  • @checkrideair
    @checkrideair Před 2 lety +1

    SpaceX resumed Starship work in Florida a month ago

  • @tvviewer4500
    @tvviewer4500 Před 2 lety

    "More sophisticated welds" Do you have any idea what makes a weld quality?

  • @IsaacSmithProductions
    @IsaacSmithProductions Před 2 lety +6

    Alternate title: The forgotten Starship Facory, or, The unknown Starship Build-off

  • @boone7777777777
    @boone7777777777 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder how far musk and space x will get before they realize why nasa ditched manned rocket flights.

  • @BlueBetaPro
    @BlueBetaPro Před 2 lety

    There are also official launch orbital reasons why they want to launch from Florida instead of Texas, that's is probably why Florida was the goal from the start, also they are experiencing launching problems in Texas with interruptions from cruise ships, planes and even helicopters I think, basically the "safety area" is way too big legally which Elon even said on Twitter.

  • @pricelessppp
    @pricelessppp Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve been to this site a couple years ago on vacation!

  • @elefanny1106
    @elefanny1106 Před 2 lety

    This is a good person.

  • @strainofthought9142
    @strainofthought9142 Před 2 lety +2

    Starship will never succeed.

  • @KimSirius
    @KimSirius Před 2 lety +1

    Except that 11 days ago, concrete was being poured for the Starship launchpad at its SpaceX Florida location.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 Před 2 lety +2

      The narrator didn't mention that detail, but that is part of the work being done to prepare for starship launches at 39A. Two OLT sections have already been finished awaiting transport to the launch pad.

  • @jackalopewright5343
    @jackalopewright5343 Před 2 lety

    Maybe someday Starships will ferry themselves to KSC to set up for launches to inclinations that can't be achieved from Boca Chica.

  • @genesisrain984
    @genesisrain984 Před 2 lety

    I would love to there.!

  • @snowdog03
    @snowdog03 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe Miami Beach next. lol

  • @Wargunsfan
    @Wargunsfan Před 2 lety +2

    I would like to know why SpaceX felt it needed two launch sites a thousand miles apart as well as two manufacturing sites. Could it be that the FAA is giving SpaceX a hard time about launching from Boca Chica and why they are looking at launching from a converted oil rig in the ocean. In Florida all the launch pads are sitting there waiting and NASA rules the roost.

    • @erichaynes7502
      @erichaynes7502 Před 2 lety +2

      Boca Chica probably provided a lot of tax breaks, a perfect place to build and test the 1st stage. We're talking over 10 billion dollars of spending so far, could have easily been 15 billion in Florida. SpaceX knows they can't launch Starship from Boca Chica..so from now on they'll probably launch from KSC, and maybe from floating converted oil rigs.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 Před 2 lety +1

      @@erichaynes7502 Space X may indeed have the inside dope on how the FAA will rule on the first test launch of Starship. I suppose we'll find out April 28 with another delay or a more extensive EA is needed.

    • @kieranh2005
      @kieranh2005 Před 2 lety

      NASA... who have their own competing SLS program.

    • @OneBiasedOpinion
      @OneBiasedOpinion Před 2 lety

      @@kieranh2005 that is nowhere near the same level of progress as SpaceX. Besides, the original point of NASA was to provide a controlled funnel through which all space projects could be routed safely. It would be hilariously hypocritical of them today if they jacked SpaceX’s test flights.

  • @erickdanielsson6710
    @erickdanielsson6710 Před 2 lety +1

    Sign of a good video is, "Did you learn something?" Ans: Yes I did... Thanks!

  • @duncanvantongeren4646
    @duncanvantongeren4646 Před rokem +1

    Hey, look! They are making grain silos!!! 🤣🤣🤣
    Rockets… The gullibility!
    Wake up!

  • @JamesHawkeYouTube
    @JamesHawkeYouTube Před 2 lety

    This is actually very funny! Thanks for the fake space laughs lol .

  • @kirkyorg7654
    @kirkyorg7654 Před 2 lety +1

    what a time to be alive for space geeks i love all this when i watched Doctor Who and Star Trek back in the 60's if you had told my 4/5 year old ass that i would see & hear the wind blowing on Mars in my life time i would have probably believed you but only because i am a dreamer lol but really we have seen and listened to the wind on mars we have flown a remote controlled drone on mars we have seen pictures of the surface of Venus truly amazing times

    • @dadadit
      @dadadit Před 2 lety

      Radiation levels on Mars will force humans underground, only androids will enjoy the surface. hate to burst your bubble,

  • @invader777
    @invader777 Před 2 lety

    Fella where's the truck that space looking thing

  • @jackdawson6340
    @jackdawson6340 Před 2 lety +1

    My understanding is that the new larger starship facility in Florida is because they are abandoning Boca Chica due to environmental issues since the Boca site is surrounded by sensitive nature preserves.

    • @lanceanthony198
      @lanceanthony198 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s crazy that you know the FAA’s decision before they’ve announced it

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 Před 2 lety

      SpaceX always planned to have Starship operations in Florida. Apparently, Boca Chica was as much about learning how to build a Starship launch facility as it is testing Starships. As the video mentions, work at Florida and LC-39A was started before work at Boca Chica really took off. SpaceX paused the work at KSC and now that SpaceX apparently knows what they want from a Starship launch facility, they are restarting work there.

  • @quickscopesheep5994
    @quickscopesheep5994 Před 10 měsíci

    The town they picked in Texas literally sounds like a place in Star Wars.

  • @Josh-ri7hy
    @Josh-ri7hy Před 2 lety

    Had no idea about Cocoa

  • @spaceboitv5646
    @spaceboitv5646 Před 2 lety +3

    the title is kinda misleading, they are buliding the starship factory and launch pad in florida as we speak

    • @Round_Slinger
      @Round_Slinger Před 2 lety

      For months there's been activity there but boca chica gets all of the press

  • @Cheka__
    @Cheka__ Před 2 lety

    We'll be going to Mars in a few years. I can't wait!

  • @user-cw2py6wh8l
    @user-cw2py6wh8l Před 2 lety +1

    Starship is a pipe dream.

    • @Tuuminshz
      @Tuuminshz Před 2 lety

      lol get out of the basement and visit Cape or Starbase

  • @JunaidRiazAlHassan
    @JunaidRiazAlHassan Před 2 lety +3

    "Just because I am breathing, doesn't mean that I am living"
    "Just because I am smiling, doesn't mean that I am happy"

  • @jbrnsek
    @jbrnsek Před 2 lety

    Nice

  • @StonedNT
    @StonedNT Před 2 lety

    One hurricane can wipe out either site so having a backup site is t a bad idea

  • @bedwarscrypt
    @bedwarscrypt Před 2 lety

    nice