Drake Maye đ” This Is Why the Patriots Drafted Him
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 9. 05. 2024
- Josh Norris and Hayden Winks of Underdog Fantasy continue their 2024 NFL Draft coverage with Drake Maye from North Carolina. What are Daniels' strengths, weaknesses, and potential fits in the NFL? Is he the 'good' kind of project QB?
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0:00 UNC Quarterback Drake Maye
1:38 Scramble Ability
4:03 Under Pressure
7:30 Drake Maye in the NFL
12:32 Drake Maye Is Different*
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Those former QBs on youtube are wrong enough to show that they don't really have any type of scouting insight that actually translates. Most of them were big JF fans too.
And all of those guys aside from JT O'Sullivan LOVED Zach Wilson
A 21/22 year old college QB is going to have flaws. That shouldn't be an issue. Having good coaches and a proper plan for their growth and development are the issues. I know it was a different time, but Steve McNair (hugely flawed, but talented) sat for 2 1/2 seasons. Became an MVP.
Maye!!
Not much experience but tons of potential
Wasnât he a 2 year starter?
@@daeganpatterson9630 You're right he did start 2 years but missed his senior season of high school ball because of covid, and sat his freshman year in college.
You guy brought alot of context to the Drake Maye discussion. Thanks for that, with that being said im firmly in the Drake Maye camp and thinks he will be atleast good QB in the NFL
It sounded like a lot of excuses to me. I think the kid needed another year in school.
@@derekb2405heâll progress much better sitting behind Jacoby Brisset than in a UNC system
@davidvilla3340 He would've been better off hitting the portal and playing. Maye's only played 2 seasons of football in the last 4 years. Good luck with him. If he cleans up his game, you have a real one.
hayden itâs the best haircut so far man. proud of you
Obviously I am not a scout, but if I had the 1st pick, I would take Maye. I watched a lot of him and of Caleb Williams and I think Maye made way more nfl quality tight window throws. He also is taller, stronger arm and has awesome athleticism also. He reminds me of Justin Herbert.
Maye's the worst QB of the bunch, by far. Erratic. Bad decisions. Lousy in the pocket. Too many balls put up for grabs. His stock will continue to fall. New tackling rules also enter into play here. Lots more running and short passes AND protecting the football in 2024-25. Erratic is out. Consistency is in.
Iâm gonna take a screenshot of these comments and I will share them at the end of the season I would bet my house that Drake Maye is gonna be the best quarterback out of this draft I canât wait for this season to kickoff. Iâm a Bears fan and Iâm dreading that I know they are taking CW this dude is gonna lead the league in turnovers mark my words
@@Mooseman327 fair enough,,,we can agree to disagree and for all we know, Bo nix ends up being the best qbâŠ.i love the nfl draft but as a browns fan who usually considers draft day my Super Bowl, I miss having first rd picks we can f up !!
If you care about ânfl quality throwsâ you take Penix.
@@mvansb23 that is a great point. This class is really deep and I saw he ran 4.46 today so I wonder if he will shoot up draft boards as well.
Everyone overthinking Drake Maye, just like Herbert and Allen which I think he is a great blend of them; Herbert had better footwork even tho it was robotic and Allen was a little to aggressive and wild and a long strider like Maye, and he is a line drive thrower like Herbert so when he misses he misses by a lot bc it sails but he has that heat heck streak and can pick apart the middle of the field
Stop saying he is Zack Wilson, this guy had 5mil offers to go somewhere else and committed to Alabama coming out of high school but his brother started at PF on the basketball team, Dad was the QB of UNC and is just a good at every sport he plays, he is very raw but Id take the risk
Drake Maye is a STUD it's written all over the 2022 film...let's not forget he was in the race for the Heisman at a BASKETBALL school with less overall Talent
Sam Howell 2.0
Maye also didn't play against anyone either. Only 4 games against ranked opponents in 2 years. 1-3 record.
@@derekb2405wins arenât purely a QB stat. UNC was awful comparatively
@davidvilla3340 My point was that he hadn't played against anyone. He's been the BMOC so he's in for a culture shock.
@@zekerodgers5683While Howell did put up some impressive numbers last season more than the 1st and 2nd rounders in his class like Pickett Levis and Malik .. Drakes a whole different beast
As a Heels and Panthers fan looks like Iâm now a Patriots fan too .. Drakes an absolute baller now need to get him some weapons
I'm panther for life but when cam went to the pats they most def became 2nd favorite team I'm a new era pats fan I don't like Brady just saying
@@evlphysicals2086 Man I was hoping he would ball out w them too he was such a beast for us before the injuries .. and Iâm right there w you never thought Iâd end up pulling for the Pats
with that said I liked Mac Jones first year was amazing then they get rid of josh and things went down hill from there but I hope drake can be successful with them especially after the wr's they picked up in this draft
@@evlphysicals2086 I feel like they gave up on him really fast but also understand not passing up on drafting Drake Maye but drafting those WRs was 100 percent needed
Very well done! I hope the commanders are either as diligent as you two are. I hope someone sends them your take if they are not!
Thanks
Accuracy and footwork are some of my most important qualities. QBs have shown itâs very hard to improve. More QBs have failed to improve mechanics and accuracy than have succeeded.
Really want him on the Vikings especially cuz we couldnât trade up for AR last year. Would suck to lose out on that type of talent twice in a row. I do feel like though this âhigh potentialâ stuff is getting carried with Maye. Yes the elite potential is what ur chasing but also his play right now is still just as good if not better than any of the other QBs in the draft including Caleb. I think beyond the more recent comps he reminds me a lot of John Elway coming out of Stanford.
Why did you guys take down the film study Drake and Colt did of the Syracuse game?
we did not. Unfortunately it was copyrighted
I think in the right system heâll do well
drake maye is a taller mobile matt stafford. Easy pick @ #2.
#HTTR!
Someone send this video to Adam Peters, stat!
Would be fun to see Matt Harmon from reception perception on your show.
Can anyone explain the chart at 13 min? @13:05
my biggest question is that his dad was a QB how come he didn't fix his footwork at a young age?
need the JJ McCarthy video
If the Patriots think hes the guy he can sit a year behind Jacoby. Maybe some spot starts to have game feel.
This is a throwaway season of "hopefully" growth for Pats/Commanders.
I was an undersized D1 Pocket Passer. My mechanics and intangibles had to be perfect just to be competitive in D1. You can't get away with STEPPING INTO rush lanes in the NFL in a clean pocket, you can't struggle throwing to receivers with 5 yard of separation and you certainly cannot fix his mechanics without YEARs of training, it takes so long to fix those bad habits and the reality is- Maye could be a decent QB, but there's not as many vets to sit behind like 5-8 years ago.. And he WILL be forced to start if drafted top 5 and will have little help around him to fix those shortcoming.
Most concerning is he has trouble moving through his progression when there are players he can throw open and if the first read isn't there he'll tuck and scramble even with a clean pocket at times (if you can actually read a defense this is clear). Moving through a progression it's also important to know how to do this on time man v zone. His timing when he tries to move through progression is non-existent BECAUSE of his terrible footwork, hence why his receivers often seem covered when going to the 2nd and 3rd read... or he has a wide open Post and he's already tucked the ball and scrambling (you can see that in one of the clips early in the vid).
Drake Maye is sneaky athletic.
Guessing 4 or 5 years. Jordan Love is the only starter given time to grow
4:50 problem with the movement is he drifts into rush lanes which in turn strains his already sus o-line. He turns clean throws into pressured throws more than anyone Iâve ever seen.
He has done both. It's not that he just makes the wrong reads. He has more of a tendancy to slide away from pressure than into it..
@@spa2damax I like that he is mobile in the pocket because you have to be, but he needs some seasoning on how to do it
I agree. But most of the time he slides away from pressure super naturally may just have to live with it in year 1
He doesnât drift into rush lanes. He drifts according to the protections he calls to get a better angle on the throw. Itâs not a flaw.
@@wardog211 Iâm not going back and forth. Heâll drift and throw off his back foot sailing a pass or worse step into pressure unabated to sail a pass. I attribute it more to poor protection but itâs poor footwork at best or poor pocket presence at worst.
Is he gonna be another Josh Rozen or Josh Allen?
Heâs gonna be more like a smaller Big Ben that can run a little
You never know 100% but this feels more like the Herbert nitpicking then genuine concern.
Scouts love Maye because theyâre all about projection. People who simply watch what you currently are donât care for Maye
Agreed...Except they don't apply the same standard of scrutiny when it comes to Daniels. In fact, it's the exact opposite when it comes to analyzing Daniels.
They ONLY look at what he is now; especially when it comes to his size. They do essentially no projection as to how Daniels could still get better than today's product.
Heâs a future Minnesota Viking!
Nope take JJ. That's your guy.
11th, 23rd, 2025 1st, JJ for 3rd(Maye), JuJu?
welcome to the New England Patriots Drake đ€©
I cannot wait till my patriots draft him. As long as Washington does their job and takes Jaden. Jaden and I are both going to be amazing so Washington and patriots are both winning.
Maye passed for 4,321 yards in 2022. His âeliteâ wr Josh Downs only accounted for 1059 yds. Ok he lost him. Who did the other 3,262 yds go to if he didnât have any other talent to throw to? Because they didnât all leave UNC. Suddenly they were Walmart workers and Bishop Sycamore players huh? Itâs not easy to just walk on at a D1 school. You have to be good. Maye was throwing to both 3 and 4 star players at UNC the same as JD5 was throwing to his 4 star talents Nabors and BT. They literally werenât shit until JD5 arrived. Check their 2021 stats and then check their 2022 stats when JD5 got there. Difference is Drake Maye got worse and failed to elevate his level of play and the players around him while JD5 and his cast got better. He didnât inherit ELITE wrâs. They all grew simultaneously together. Thatâs the difference.
FACTS!
I've watched a decent amount of his play at this point, and I'm still not impressed, and it has less to do with his knowledge or his intangibles. Like even watching the video package you have of him in this video, he doesn't have to throw balls in tight windows, his guys are often open, the defenders are out of position, guys aren't making plays on the ball they're falling down or trying to tackle the receiver before the ball is even entirely there. The defenses he played against were bad both years, he didn't play a lot of good schools, he didn't get tested with his throws nearly as often as other QBs. I watched some film on Jayden Daniels from I want to say this last year, I saw a throw where he was on the run under pressure and he threw the ball into the tightest window I've ever seen a ball go through and he did it on the run, I also want to say he did it on his back foot or doing a jump pass but I could be confusing plays. And I see that up and down Daniel's film, so many of his throws are contested, through tight windows, placed so perfectly it's just a beautiful work of art. When I watch Maye play it's like watching a kid with a crayon. I have nothing against Maye I hope he succeeds. But I just don't know why people who are breaking down his game tape all over the place seem to overlook the fact that most of his good plays are a result of his guy being open or not being contested. I mean good that he can make those plays and great that he can put the ball where it's gotta be for them, but how often do you really get that in the NFL?
Some of these young quaterbacks need to be sat down. Ignore the fans and let the veteran qb play.
We really have to stop comparing this guy to Josh Allen... Setting a lot of people up to be disappointed
I trust Merill Hodge, and I think this was a big mistake. The accuracy isn't anywhere close to what it needs to be, and you see it all over his tape. The processing is even worse, and rarely improves much. Penix and Nix both evaluate better. The worst part is that it seemed like a complete FOMO pick by the new front office. If they really thought this was "their guy" they wouldn't have been seriously considering trades while on the clock. Had Jayden Daniels been there at #3, they wouldn't have even answered the phone. Instead it seemed like the trade offers made them worry that they'd be making a mistake by not taking him.
Pats fan here. Iâm currently completely depressed at the situation. We should have taken Marvin or JJ. We had our time tho with Brady. I guess we are doomed for faliure đ
Im still taking him 1.02 in dynasty superflex leagues but im so scared he will bust
It makes no sense to sit maye. If he has flaws then he needs to play so those flaws can be captured at the nfl level and then you can figure out how to refine him to become better. Him not playing will never allow the opportunity for his team to see what needs to be fixed. Im also interested to know if evaluators are looking at only his junior season or his sophmore season as well.
Drifting into pressure is not a good thing lmao đ
Patriot
I think tools wise, hes very similar to Herbert and Josh Allen. But i think that mechanical, he might be a bit closer to Zach Wilson, which i think gives him a very boom or bust feel. I also think you guys overblowing how bad his situation is. Walker is a great receiver. Probably better that anything Caleb Williams had. And i think theyre offensive lines were similar. And yet Drake maye was no where near as good
Devontez Walker is not good. All he's good at is going deep. His shorter routes are sloppy and need refinement. He isn't half the receiver Josh downs was at unc
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast I'm a hurricane Fan and UNC had nothing for us until Maye started exclusively targeting Walker. And from that point on, we never had a chance. Maye wasn't even particularly good, Walker was just always open
Go Heels
No team has 4-5 years for a qb to be good lmaoooo wtf
Thatâs how long it takes to become a complete player.
I cannot agree. There is not a playcalling problem, if you misses wide open short throws. That are mechanics. And that was very often. And he wants to get drafted Top 5. Then you do not get a lot of help, you are in bad team. So for me he is a 2nd Rounder, and I think Chris Simms is absolut right in this point. Sit him develop him.
There's a difference playing with actual NFL players and playing in college with guys that have no chance at an NFL career. Like they said in the video, him losing Josh down was a big thing. Devontez Walker who was his number 1 is not very good. If your criticism is he's too young then I get it because not only did every QB have much better help but they were also 5 year guys in college.
Ever notice how the QB that sucked in the pros are the ones critiquing the kids coming out of college ?
12:56 what is this figure? Got to put a title on your figure. I can speculate without a title
what if the Bears took him on 1 overall? dont think so, hope the Pats get him at 3.
Hope not. Maye's the worst QB of the bunch. Way too erratic. Bad decisions. Lousy in the pocket. The new tackling rule is going to put an emphasis on the running game, QB consistency, being a good game manager, being good on third down, protecting the football, etc. The big play all or nothing QB's value will be going down. See ya, Drake Maye!
@@Mooseman327 can you explain, why he made bad decisions or why he is lousy in the pocket? how much games did you watch?
@@Mooseman327 Lol clueless
Jayden Daniels will be the gem of this class imo.
Itâll be such a bad day if Washington passes on Maye..
Future commander
Drake Maye is terrible, Vikings should trade up for JJ, Let Drake fall to the Giants. đ
Alright bud youâre not smoothđ
Hide this vid. Maye needs to fall to the Giants. Was falls in love with Daniels, Minn wants McCarthy and NE wants to trade down. Easy
In your mind , not in mine !
Welcome to Washington đ
I don't think he will be heard from 3 years from now. Just more draft hype, we see this every year.
I dont think you get rid of those kind of bad habits that cause inaccuracy in a few months, and I feel like the time to solve those problems would have been in college, not while trying to adjust to being a starting QB in the NFL. Thats like trying to refine your swimming technique, while drowning. It's under all that extra cognitive load where those bad habits really start to rear their head.
If he's going to have to sit and develop, I'd hope he's able to do so for much longer than just a few months.
No qb is complete in a few months. He's very young. He was more accurate the year before. His team was considerably worse last year.
This obssession with playing QBs immediately needs to end. Where youâre taken should be a reflection of what you can be rather than who you are. In a world where Drake Maye develops and undergoes technical refinement, he absolutely has the physical traits to become a top 5 elite QB.
Itâs not like heâs super inaccurate. Itâs just some of the polish on his drop back that comes from experience isnât quite there yet. We even saw it from Stroud last year who struggled the first few weeks and Jordan Love who also struggled for the first half of last season and then in the second half both were playing at an easy top 10 level. Thatâs probably similar to whatâs going to happen with Maye if he goes to a good situation.
@@jeffdwyer3809I don't think it's an obsession as much as it's that most of the teams who are in the position to draft in the top 3 of the draft are in a position where they:
1. Don't have any starting level QB's
2. Are mismanaged/fail to realize how to make a QB successful in the first place (demonstrated by the fact they are in the position of drafting a QB in the top 3)
The best example of that this year is probably the Patriots. Chicago is actually a far better landing spot/situation for a #1 overall QB draft pick than we normally see those players dropped into. (See Bryce Young and the Panthers last season)
That being said, I think there will still be the teams which try to do this. As you can still have the rare situations like what happened with CJ Stroud, where a QB comes into the league and is able to excel almost immediately.
Itâs so bizarre seeing teams talk themselves into flawed qb prospects at the top of the draft. There are amazing non-qb prospects that they should draft but because the media discourse has shifted towards glorifying QBs, they feel the need to draft flawed QBsâŠ
Harrison is not the Messiah he's painted out to be either lol
many flawed QB prospects pre-draft end up being the best QBs in the league. Many fail. That's the position. And teams know they need to hit on one to have a legit chance. The media is not the reason these teams draft QBs
Who are the flawless prospects in this draft?
@@UnderdogFantasy when I say âflawedâ obviously there are no perfect prospects coming out of college, but prospects with glaring holes in their game that teams willingly overlook is puzzling to me. Either way, love the content you guys have been putting out. Canât wait till April to see what my Giants end up doing.
I remember 20-30 years ago a franchise changing LT,DE,WR was a safer pick. Now every draft, once the combine is over all of the QB's get pushed to the front of the draft boards.
Lots of film of him throwing to wide open "windows". That does not happen in the NFL.
Bro what film are you watching đ
When you play Football at a basketball school....
I wont hold your de- commitment from Alabama 4 years ago against you Forever..... Karma was ironically served last night at the Tournament.......following your pro day.......Ah, the circle of Life
You just demonstrated the disconnect that exists between draft analysts and actual NFL coaches and GMs when evaluating Drake Maye. Who has enough job security to wait the 2-3 years that could be required to fix Maye's mechanics and turn it into musle memory? Years that should've been spent in college instead of years losing NFL games. Instead, he chose to leave 2 years early, and now the team that drafts him will be forced to take the early hit while he figures it out. Former NFL QBs are lower on Maye because they know that fixing mechanics and footwork isn't as easy as draft analysts say that it is. Josh Allen did it by year 3. Sure, who else you got?
1st
Unlike Drake
Might be Trey Lance 2.0
bust. next question
Mitch Trubiski 2.0
New tackling rules will change football. QB consistency is in and erratic/big play QBs are out. That's why Maye's draft stock is falling and those of McCarthy, Nix, Penix and Rattler are rising. Maye is, by far, the most erratic QB of the bunch. He makes bad decisions and he's lousy in the pocket. Lots more running, short passing game, and protecting the football in 2024-25.
You don't draft a QB top 5 if you think he needs to sit
It's the Great White Hype Syndrome, it happens every year around this time. Sam Darnold, Mac Jones, Josh Rosen, Daniel Jones, Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, they all went before better QBs and turned out to be below avg at best and the same will happen with Drake and JJ. Not looking at skin tone but actual production. Penix was NCAA passing leader, Daniels won the Heisman and yet some putting these guys ahead of them. It's Groundhog Day, all over again.
Oh youâre a racist gotcha
You're the only one here looking at skin tone bud
Go watch the film, Maye has Penix arm talent and Daniels mobility. He is a tier above them as a prospect. Penix and Daniels will have their WR2/3 drafted before Mayes WR1, itâs not even close to a fair fight for stats.
@@benmorgan9748Exactly you can tell he views everything through race, probably would cry racism if a white guy said this about all the trash black QBs that get drafted high
Drake Maye is going to be the best quarterback coming out of this draft I hope that whoever picks him works on his mechanics and I would bet my house that he will be the best quarterback at the end of this upcoming season. Ryan Poles I hope gets fired because of him not being a great scout he is gonna be influenced by all the talk about CW and after 2 years CW might be out of the NFL sounds crazy right? CW will lead the entire NFL in turnovers Iâm gonna take a screenshot of my comment so at the end of the year I can show the whole CZcams nation.
Definitely bro, I remember watching a North Carolina game and literally never even heard that he was projected to be a high pick in the draft. From like the first two plays Iâm like wow this dude is special. He has that star power to make plays and elevate the offense. Heâs young and still raw but man when he matures his game heâs gonna be a problem đ
Just watch the Commanders because thatâs were I believe he is going and Kingsbury is gonna work on his talents he is gonna be awesome in 2 years once he gets the feel of the NFL he is gonna be nasty. Your right though he puts the ball in tight windows and in stride dude is gonna be a good one
â@jsintralhe was projected a high pick after his sophomore season at unc. All QBs have things to fix it's just the other guys had much better situations so their flaws didn't show up as much.
@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast I keep telling people this. Some of the best qbs like mahomes and Allen played on trash teams with no talent and had to carry by themselves and didnât win much. But when u just look at their skill alone, it was obvious that those guys should been rated higher