Bassmaster Rules Changing?! Aftermath of Winning the Bassmaster Classic!
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Bassmaster Classic Winner Justin Hamner comes on today's episode to discuss what it is like months after winning the Superbowl of Bass Fishing! We also discuss the rule changing coming in the 2025 season! Come on folks let's chat!
You made a huge impression on my yougin when yall were at bull shoals/norfork a few years back. You stopped mid conversation with someone to say hi to him. My wife and I were very impressed. We knew you were exhausted. But you made his day. And for that, we say thank you.
Frankly, IMO, only a depth finder should be allowed...if you consider yourself a professional angler, then fish with your knowledge.... Not where a computer tells you where the fish are located
Absolutely!!! Fishing will never be considered a real sport bc there arent enough equipment limitations. The PGA, NASCAR and other 2nd tier pro sports in this country all limit technology to help the integrity of competition. Fishing is becoming a joke.
@@danbasara4547 exactly.... All the vids on YT showing tips and tricks for finding the bass and which bait to use, are totally useless unless you have a fish finder to begin with.... it's just BS
@@GreenManalichi you don't need all that equipment if you use FFS. Just one pole and a couple of baits. These lure companies are going to have a hard time in a few years with everyone using FFS.
@@BlobRob787I go bass fishing nearly every day, including today. It may be an hour, it may be 4. I fish they same basic places and always catch fish. It took me almost a solid year of daily fishing to get there, though!
The only technology I use is the Fish Finder app to check tides and Solunar.
@@BlobRob787 but that's the point of this video.... FFS is ruining the "sport" of fishing. IF you consider yourself to be a "professional" angler entering the tournament, than find the fish W/O sonar. Use your "professional" expertise to find the fish without electronics....do this, and I, for one, will agree that person is a "professional" bass angler
I really don't get into the debate too much but FFS seems like video game fishing to me. Your boat just becomes a big game console. Its pretty boring to watch people stare at a video screen during tournaments. Unless you are fishing for actual food the magic of fishing is just being out there, learning structure and technique. If I can see the fish reacting to my lure in real time... just seems boring. Its like a cheat sheet for tests . I also worry about the increased pressure it is going to put on fish. But to each their own.
Just found this again, way to go Mike love the show
FFS - I don't see limiting transducers, or units, or screen inches changing much at all, except for limiting boat rigging electronics costs. It may make a FFS angler slightly less efficient, only having maybe 1 unit, but fishing tactics won't change. I believe Drew Gill only had/has one FFS unit. Limiting the # of hours use, which days or tournaments it can be used is too convoluted. I say ban it completely, or let it rip.
Prediction- BASS will limit the # of transducers, and units.
😅 great show Ike! I really enjoyed that one.
Thanks for continuing to provide us with these and I want more of the old crew (at least a few times a year) on here.
Show idea 💡 Can you talk about your time out here in the West and how to make it work for 2 events a year? Costs and time restraints for both the anglers & organization, etc.
Hammer is a class act! So happy for him and chase that AOY man!
You mean "Foward Facing Sonar" AOY! There is a world of difference between the old school AOY and what is happening today.
@@BlobRob787 can you win AOY either way? Stop hating FFS is a tool
You refuse to learn and become good at.
Great show Ike! You rock!
I build my own rods so I can have just what I want. I use the open type hook holder but avoid the issues you talked about by putting it far back on the split grip behind the reel
Best damn fishing podcast out there. Love it brother
Love your work!!!!
Ike really does have a good pod! I haven’t been a fan of his on the water antics through the years, but I am a fan of his general enthusiasm of the sport! Justin seems to be a fine young angler, but I’m in NO way a fan of scopeadoping in tournaments! I try to keep an open mind and not discredit these young anglers with their scoping, but in my mind a scoping win deserves an asterisk by the name. As a fan that’s one thing that will ever change with my perception…
His antics were as a rebukement of the old guard
Hamner is an awesome dude. I'm year 17 of working two jobs with one being lawn care. It's so amazing to see him make it. He's the type of guy that you absolutely have to like.
Mike I think we have an awesome show and I think you absolutely do a phenomenal job keep up the great work you and the entire team Pete Dave and everyone I think they do a great job hi Mike talk to you soon God bless
Dude looks like Stevie from East Bound and Down!
😂😂😂
Hello Mike how are you hope all is well and yeah I'm only about 5 minutes from you LOL this is Mr old school bill thanks for this video appreciate it Mike talk to you soon God bless
FFS is for the rich men north of Richmond.
High fence hunting is for the rich men north of Richmond.
If your rod series isn't called Hamner's hammer sticks, then it isn't going to work..lol
That was awesome!!!
Another Great show Ike
Dead fish rule. You get penalized twice. It cost you weight and you have to keep it.
the object of the discussion is public opinion guides bass fishing, those who can’t go fishing ,living through a long admired angler success streak to the classic.cant sell product if they are not watching
Handicap the use of FFS. If you don't have it on your boat, you get to bump up your weights by 25%.
Best thing to happen in pro sports in 2024, Justin Hamner!
On the team resource sharing aspect, one could look to extreme versions of this, for instance in the 'trading floor' situation in the past. It looked like one very extreme version of that thing of pooling of resources, except that some tried to remain 'independent' as they called it, and explain how difficult it was not to be overcome and controlled in that situation 'by a group'.
To some extent, sociologists who've studied it explain that human beings in groups were extremely effective enabling them to gather in large bands and go hunt after some very large game. In order to create surpluses of food and resources for a group of human beings, and that's never really left out instincts, our behavior.
That's the reason why I enjoy the extreme modern examples of the same, the Chicago trading floor examples of old being one. Frank Lardino in his episode twenty-five of Warrior Podcast, entitled from Comedy to Corruption. Was full of examples of just how badly wrong that the group organization thing can go, and what it meant then to try to maintain independence at all, from the influence of the groups you were surrounded by.
The traders had to invent all kinds of ways to communicate, so as not to indicate to others on the trading floor what their trading strategy had been (sometimes managing to conceal that, and at other times not). Jim Moynagh in his latest episode, a recap of a tournament said many of his best fishing places from practice were occupied by other anglers (and one had to be intelligent about the rotation he would use between his fishing places). Jim offered the example of throwing Neko soft plastic after other anglers as a means by which to try and catch fish 'behind' other anglers who had fished his places. Stuff like that.
What was interesting about Frank Lardino, was an explanation of how different groups on the trading floor joined together at certain times to become an unstoppable force (don't assume that it ends at a single group of individuals sharing resources, there can also be 'groups of groups' working together too). And that at other times these same groups who would collaborate on one thing, would compete on something else. Meaning that for Frank and his cohorts, they really had to be aware of all of that. Because groups and all kinds of weird alliances were the norm, not the exception (they explained how young traders getting into the business to begin with, were often down a significant amounted 'owed' to some mini cartel). And that in order to help the rookie traders to pay the entrance fees, that the same mini cartel who offered them the entrance opportunity for a fee, almost loaned the youngsters additional funds to pay the entrance fees (and a lot of those rookies never extracted themselves from that commitment they entered into). They never got free and clear, or guys who did, even got dragged back into these arrangements having been their own bosses for a time.
This is kind of what you're seeing in fishing, it started on the Opens circuit. And it is analogous to what happened when electronic trading strategies started to happen in the financial markets too. Just wait for the time when bass boat operators start wearing colored suspenders. And smoking cigars. It might not be far away. This is why regulation is required. The electronic tools just upset the natural order of things for certain.
How much does it cost to be a Marshall? I thought I saw once that it was like $500 per event is that right?
It’s $100.00 and so awesome to do!
Why not on the final day they can’t use ffs ?? Or in the Classic
My biggest problem is the dishonesty of those against it. (FFS) The ones against it, don't know how to use it. If they knew how to use it and were successful with it, they'd be all for it. They are using ethics for an excuse to keep theirselves competitive
I’m not sure so somebody chime in , how many of any of his wins came with ffs?
😮 All of them ! I like justin though < Hope they do ban it ?But it wont happen!😮😮😮
Forward Facing Sonar is just the change of times, get onboard and learn it, if your life times depend on the income made from it.stop your squalling.😮
Get out there and learn it so you can compete. And quit floppy jawin.
Asking a pro to not use everything available to him (FFS) is just silly.
Would you ask your mechanic to disassemble a motor with only a screwdriver?
If they are gonna ban ffs. They should ban all electronics (2d side scan 360 everything)
Hammer earned it and is definitely legitimate too many weak people that couldn't do it themselves complaining
@@gummz84 waypoints and looking at fish real time isn't legitimate
@beavisbrowne3497 yeah it is you couldn't beat the guy with or without the same technology
He earned embarrassment. FFS is weak for the weak minded.
I think they should do ffs but the last 2 tournaments and the classic. Should not use it .. that’s how u know you are a bassmaster not using ffs .. and it will be a challenge.. for the other anglers to come up the chart .. it would be more entertainment for the fans .😎👌🏾🤙🎣🔥💯
Why are the tv and social media personalities on the committee? What the hell is going on at BASS? Who is representing thr anglers on this committee?
The anglers have never been represented by anglers. They have tried for 40 years, but you can't have anglers represent the whole when they are only worried about what's good for themselves. It's no much of a me sport. 😂😂😂
@@basscat2107 makes sense. Explains why they pay 5 grand X 9 derbies for the chance to win the same amount they would have won in 2006. I was just shocked to hear Ronnie Moore has a vote lol. BASS, damn lucky Boyd didn’t get his crap together and buy them. Damn lucky Covid hit when it did lol
In just my opinion, which means nothing, FFS is amazing, and a huge game changer in the pro tournaments/weekend anglers fishing! No, I don’t have a FFS setup cause I feel like it takes away the unknown and real “fishing” but have fished with others that do. First, I get it! Why not use the technology we have to catch more fish and potential bring you that W!!! Second, watching the tournaments these days is really boring because our favorite guys just stare at a screen all day! Third, I think it takes a lot of the skill and fun out of fishing. Finally, I think for the supporters (ie fans) wild watch a lot more if there wasn’t FFS involved. PS, just like live bait, shiners, etc., is like FFS. It’s almost a guarantee you will catch fish!!!
I’m pretty much on the exact same page as you, man.
I have nothing against it; but it’s just not something I’M keen on wanting to use.
As long as the playing field is level for the top tournament anglers and EVERY boat is allowed to be equipped with them; then it’s all their choice from there
Yeah. It is like watching a bunch of teenagers on their phone except every once in a while they are holding a fish.
I can't believe the whole comment page is people just hating. Great fans you have Ike.
Guys, I personally feel like FFS is here to stay. But, BASS absolutely needs to take a side. Either allow FFS or not, none of this wishy washy crap of you can have it on this lake and this lake but not on that one. Or, you can have it for 3 hours a day. Na, grow some bawlz and make a decision.
Professional tournament fishermen’s don’t need practice day. And if You use sonar quit crying about forward facing sonar. You shouldn’t complain about something that You used all your life.
IF FFS is so easy to use and cheating then why are so many people getting beat with it? I think these kids are good at map study and apply todays technology to enhance there finishes. Im 58 yrs old and look to getting this technology to make my time on the water more productive. Some of these guys have been professional fisherman for years. Once you get there its hard to get put off tour until now. These kids are the real deal working hard staying on the water perfecting this technology. IMO the younger fisherman will not support a tour that bans FFS.
Good!!!
Nah there are plenty of guys that slay without it. I’m 30, have time with the unit, but don’t run it. Takes away what fishing is for me bud. The kills from ripping deep like 2 atmospheres down…even fizzin isn’t saving ( lived on lsc, I’ve seen the 100s of floating smallies
@@920fpv 100% Correct! 😮😮
You could look at it this way , finding the fish is 70% or more of the battle ! It also would really suck if there are guys out there that can only do it with ffs , I have it myself for crappie fishing with my grand kids ….. I refuse to use it in a bass tournament
If they let it stay I believe that the fan base that pro bass fishing has will mostly go away because who wants to see 80% of the field doing the same thing ! The tech is awesome I just don’t feel like it belongs in pro bass fishing , they don’t or shouldn’t need it !
Live scope is cheating bottom line should not be allowed in tournaments some so called pros will not succeed without it .
Forward Facing Sonar Angler of the Year points leader. He didn't earn it. Using forward facing sonar is cheating. Why would anyone give a crap about a fake fisherman using forward facing sonar? Forward Facing Sonar Bassmaster Classic Champ. He didn't earn it. He stared at a monitor all tournament. Why would anyone promote this crap? If I were a lure company, I wouldn't sponsor events that discourage needing a box full of lures. Forward Facing Sonar hacks don't need all these lures.
Someday these companies will figure it out and move their advertising away from FFS events and the people who support FFS. Please preface all talk of Angler of the Year or Classic Champ with "Forward Facing Sonar" so we know it is meaningless. Thanks in advance.
Yet here you are, you must have an extremely boring life😂
Or just hate yourself you could not pay me to watch or listen to something I hate.
But hey 👋 😂😂😂
If ffs is cheating and your against the progression of technology in fishing then anyone using a rod is cheating, using a reel is cheating, using a boat to go fishing is cheating
@@J_Dover_1987that's a BS whataboutism. Live Sonar is opening up a can of worms that has no place in the SPORT. Fair chase is essential to the integrity of fishing.
It is a low skill endeavor. Then he comes on a CZcams channel and accepts congratulations and accolades. Give me a break! If you take away the FFS he wouldn't catch a ham sandwich let alone a fish. Fishing with forward facing sonar is weak. This guy should be embarrassed. Yet he is all proud of himself. If turns my stomach. Also, I have to say what I believe is something even more annoying. People who promote FFS winners and FFS in general. Sorry Ike. You have dropped down a notch. That includes guys like Scott and Roland Martin. I know Ike, Scott, and Roland Martin are truly great fishermen because they won before FFS was around. I'm hoping someday they jump off the FFS bandwagon.
@@J_Dover_1987everyone uses a rod and reel to catch fish. The ancient method is just to use nets or gill nets. But even then they used rods.
FFS is not even in the same stratosphere as actually having to FIND the fish! You have to be able to read the land, read the water, and know what baits to use and HOW to use them.
Put me side-by-side with a FFS “pro” without their FFS, and I will outfish them. Every time.
It use to be no sharing information these kids today break every golden rule I seen anglers on live. Share info on camera
Bingo!
Has anybody seen Greg Hackney ? 👎FFS !
Get rid of it
Hey dont deserve the name of a classic winner, he cheated with FFS,
So they all cheating ? Stupid comment
Hammer is an illegitimate classic champ without ffs he would not have even made the cut
Hey look everyone! It’s that Randy guy on one of his alt accounts.
Jerk
He look everyone it is another fool who thinks looking at a monitor all day is fishing.
I was %100 against FFS. Especially at the professional level. But after reading comment after comment from the no FFS cult like this one has almost got me rooting for FFS. 🤦♂️
You didn't even watch the classic
😂 whiners😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pros are cowards...selling out bass fishing...