Why Were Alexander's Body and Tomb so Important? (Kings and Generals Reaction)
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Thanks for making these videos. It is always interesting to watch our stuff from another POV.
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It's awesome to see Chris reaction to some Alexander The Great stuff reason being Alexander is my all time favorite historical figure
Kings and Generals now also have a week by week series for the Pacific War, might be interesting to see 😁
As a Greek, I have to say that it's incredible how much Alexander affected the regions he conquered. At school we were taught up until Ptolemy before going to Rome, but seeing this has fascinated me. All of Ptolemy's descendants had Greek names and surnames such as philopator (meaning: who loves his father) and we don't even know that Cleopatra was Greek, although the name is totally Greek and makes much sense. I think we even have documents of people in what's today Pakistan speaking Greek for many centuries after Alexander.
Lot’s of Alexander’s soldiers and their descendants stayed in the cities he founded and conquered through his campaigns.
Greetings from Cairo, and I’m curious about the name Philopator, it’s actually a popular name for us copts in Egypt, but we spell it Philopatir
In early Buddhism, the Buddha was almost always portrayed by symbols and not as a person. The practice of making Buddha statues started in Afghanistan when Greek marble sculptors came to the region to make statues for the new Greek government palaces. Kandahar is an altered spelling of Alexandria.
The earliest Buddhha statues were all made in the Greek style.
No! Alexander MAkedonski e mAkedonec. Goce Delcev e mAkedonec. MAkedoncite otkrivat Amerika, Lunata e zemq mAkedonska. MAkedonecot e naj-velikjot na taz zemq(za neukite ke kazem i na anglijski "For the unedukeited I'll transleit in inglish: MAkedoncite faund Amerika, The moon is mAkedonska lend! MAkedonci the greitest in the woruld)!
Ai forgot to sei dat Makedonskiot narod e velik po futbol. Sega sme silni, no sme imali i po silni otbori. Makedonskiot otbor 1994 stiga polufinal na svetovnoto! Hristo Stoichkov e makedonec! Dimitar Berbatov e makedonec! Bulgari tatari i fashisti! For the unedukeited I will transleit agein: Makedonci greit in futbol! Nau we strong, but we hev been strongar! Makedonskiot team 1994 riches the semi fainal in the woruld kup! Hristo Stoichkov is makedonec! Dimitar Berbatov is makedonec!
In your last video you had that Alexander's last word's were "to the Strongest." That would be the reason that Alexander's empire split. His generals battle for control of the empire, and with that in mind, whoever had his body could claim to be the true heir. Let's not forget that in Egypt they saw him as a god, so the ptolomeys had the best reason to get his body and make sure it was buried in Egypt. If it had been if Macedonia the Egyptians might not follow the Ptolomeys they might doubt their and Alexanders power.
I think it's important to add here that the possession of Alexander's body was more crucial for Ptolemy than for any of his rivals. According to ancient egytpian tradition, the person who (officially/ceremonially) buried the body of the previous ruler was seen as the legitimate successor. Alexander had been declared Pharao and accepted by the egyptian priests, so getting hold of his body and buring him in Egypt was crucial for Ptolemy's ambition to become the sovereign Pharao himself.
You should really watch Epic History TV's video on Alexander the Great's speech he gave to his men during the Opis Mutiny. I have watched it several times over the years.
Edit: It seems that it ended up being in the watch more videos section at the end of Kings and Generals original video as well.
Thank you for this reaction video. Alexander has always been a fascinating figure to me growing up, being born and raised in a city that carries his name. I was taught that his arrival wasn't seen so much as a conquest, but as a rescue, ridding the people of corrupt rulers. Looking forward to the next part.
Thank you and vlogging through History for this video!!!
The Ptolemaic period of Egypt Is probably my favorite period In Egyptian history because you have a fascinating mixture of people and cultures in the region at the time Alexandria would’ve been just as diverse as New York in the modern day with a mixture of architecture from Rome Greece and Egypt
Wow that’s amazing to think about
18:00 The whole Ptolemy/Alexander thing actually reminds me more of the fabulous stories told to the people of North Korea about the Kim family, especially the founder Kim Il-Sung. Much more than Washington, I don't think the American's ever pushed the BS to 11 like these did.
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These guys are some of my favourite when it comes to ancient history, their stuff on early summeria is a very good watch
Recommend watching his speech, The Opis Mutiny is so beautiful.
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I highly suggest Invicta's series on the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest and the aftermath of the disaster and revenge of the Legions against the forces of Arminius.
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The "I need money!" Was hilarious. XD
Always love your reactions!
I am from Alexandria and as far I understand and studied in school about the library of Alexandria since you mentioned it the first fire that burned the library was also conceted to Rome it happened because when joules ceaser was surrounded in Alexandria when he was receiving pompi's head and entered the civil war between cliopatra and her brother I don't remember exactly if he started the fire or the fire just happened during the conflict.
Pretty Cool video. I did not know a lot of that. I agree about the library at Alexandria. Such a loss
They also do more modern videos such as the week by week Pacific war series it’s really good think you’ll like it
Maybe new series from "Kraut" there is good one about Mexico-USA, The Turkish Century was great.
What's so interesting to me is that in medical terminology, the soma, the name of Alexander's mausoleum, now directly means "the body" which I can only infer comes from this. So cool
Soma is the word for body in ancient Greek (σῶμα) So both the mausoleum and the medical term just come from the Greek word for body. Fun fact, it's actually still the same in modern Greek (σώμα). But still, it is pretty cool how it's all connected
Kings and Generals are awesome you gotta keep reacting to their videos
great stuff
Very good, thanks
Good stuff!
Finally some Alexander the Great! My favorite historic figure, love the video.
He's on his way back to Macedonia if I recall, after conquering as far as India.
Can you react to History marche's series on Hannibal?
When are you going to react to decolonazation of the americas by geo history? Great topic!
I grew up in Ohio, and hearing some of the small towns like Upper pop up in your videos from time to time always makes smile.
Already liked the video
You have to watch Alexander’s Speech at the Opis Mutiny
Should do a video on princess Dianna
2:44 it says in Greek : I was always curious if people read these things when they watch the videos. lol
Fire of learning also has where great leaders are buried and what great thinkers said as they died and what all the Roman emperors said as they died it’s interesting
Hey I know you must get a lot of video recommendations and I’m sure your probably tired of them but I just wanted to throw one suggestion in. I think you should react to kraut’s Mexican - American border videos. They come forward in time so only the last 2(?) chapters of the last video are probably too recent. Your reaction to the Turkish century was my favourite of your series but I do understand that they are long videos especially as the Mexican border one has 2 and a half really long videos to react to. Anyways keep up the good work, I am really enjoying your non-reaction videos too (I’m not American so I don’t know anything about the civil war so they’re interesting for me) thank you :)
There's this great video from "Epic History TV". They recreated Alexander's speech to his men during the Opis mutiny might be something fun to look at.
If people are interested in the period Prof. Peter Green is an author to look out for if you are looking for academically works. He's done a biography of Alexander and there is a general history of the Hellenistic period " Alexander to Actium".- being academic works both are fully referenced, but you will need a university level library to follow all those up, and you may need a working knowledge of Latin for some of the Roman texts!
Can you do a video of the Greco-Persian wars??
11:39 the Lancastrians attempted this by claiming Edmund Crouchback was older than I think Edward I but was passed over. Henry IV was a descendent of Crouchback via his mother and in this way legitimized his seizing power and passing over the Mortimers.
Maybe you should react to aleksadners speach to his army. Its amazing
Establishment of royal state cults was one of the more interesting inventions of the Diadochi which the Romans later were inspired from, deifying their emperors. Like the Ptolemies, the Seleucids also deified their dynasty and to an extent, so did the Antigonids (though the Antigonids were limited to the more traditional monarch receiving divine auspisciousness from established poleis such as Athens. (Interstingly, Antigonus Gonatas is noted to have rejected the idea of being deified) while the Seleucids entirely deified their monarchs and ancestry, having people worship them as gods)
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Did one in April czcams.com/video/zzvokaQk9YE/video.html
"You can't have it both ways here."
Ptolemy "Bet"
19:37 it's kind of like the cult of Edward the Confessor that was cultivated by the early Plantagenets and a number of English Kings are buried in Westminster Abbey, where the confessors tomb is the most prominent.
Excellent comparison.
Omg it’s happening he’s getting into Alexander the Great! Dying for epic history’s Alexander to be reacted to!
3:54 and the Seleucid empire.
I didn't even know he was sick.
RIP Alexander
Really intresting stuff. Such a shame that the library of Alexandria burned down!
F for the library
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Kings and generals are the video encyclopaedia of History.
How much does the US like Washington? Well we have around 300+ geographic bodies named after the man, and that's not counting monuments. Perhaps not quite deifying him like Alexander, but definitely viewed as a hero. Living in the State of Washington, I can understand how the history and also the mythos of a leader can be imbedded in your culture, be it subtle or overt.
And unlike Alexander, we actually have the burial location of Washington. Up there at Mount Vernon.
Maybe ptolemy created the son of phillip thing for his Greek compatriots and the pharaoh one for the egyptian subjects. Although I don't know how that would work.
I think it's CK2 (might be 3, don't remember) there's a quest line to try and bind your dynasty to various great historical figures and I got Alexander's quest line. Once again, video games giving bizarre incentives to learn more about history...
In CK2 you can spend an absurd amount of prestige or gold to establish a connection between your dynasty and Alexander. One of the options of doing this even has you find his body.
Big dawg alexander
I mean Alexander kind of was an Egyptian Pharao, if I remember correctly he was proclaimed Pharao when he and his army conquered Egypt
he wasn't kinda. He was full fledged Pharaon by priests' proclamation. That's why Ptolemey have to conjure up his blood relationship with Alexander to support his claims.
He was, but used the title only in Egypt
If I remember correctly Ptolemy also claimed that his line was directly connected to Alexander's via his father Philip II. According to Ptolemy, his mother was a former concubine of Philip II, and was already pregnant when she married his father Lagus, the implication being that she was pregnant with Philip's child. This would have made Ptolemy Alexander's half-brother if true.
Influence is good. Gold right now is even better.
Just after this I feel we need to watch Kings and generals Roman conquest of Greece.
He should watch the Diadochi Wars and the Pyrrhus series first, all from Kings and Generals, for context (and because they're really fun).
@@blede8649 definitely Pyrrhus
Isn’t there a campaign scenario in age of mythology where you escort a tomb through Egypt ? It’s been a while 😅
Interesting
Alexander the Great died undefeated in battle. When Napoleon was asked who was the greatest Caesar or Alexander he answered Alexander because of his seemingly impossible conquest of Persia. I definitely recommend you learn more about his story and impact on the world.
Babylon is a suburb of modern day Baghdad, I think.
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It would be super funny if Ptolemy was Alexander’s least favourite General.
Yeah but Alexander was named pharaoh when he conquered Egypt and had that dream about that Egyptian god that was his real father or something like that.
Excited for part 2 as well as your next Gettysburg video. Crazy he melted gold tomb down. People will do desperate things when they go broke even if your a ruler 😂. Keep up the good work Chris 👍💪
It's incredible what a cultural influence Alexander the Great had. In a Kings and Generals video I heard that he may be mentioned in the Quran.
Talk about death at a funeral 😂
The loss of thr Library of Alexandria is the major thing which significantly decreases my opinion of Julius Caesar.
Chris: hope you had a good holiday.
I know you have a lot on your plate, but over the holidays I came upon two great videos on CZcams. They are long ones, so I don’t think they are good for reacting to, but I thought you might be interested in them.
The first one is The Thunder from Tinian.
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The second one is about Authur Currie, the Canadian WW1 general who the Germans were very scared of.
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Stay safe, stay sane, be well
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Melting the gold off the sarcophagus is I my opinion was the most dishonorable thing to do.
Still confused about who is in Grant's tomb?🤔
They buried him in Troy with Jimmy Hoffa
Macedonia is nice place i liked it better then Athens.
I've never heard that Ptolemy claimed Alexander was a bastard son of an earlier Egyptian Pharaoh, the Egyptians themselves crowned Alexander the legitimate Pharaoh as soon as he entered the old capital of Memphis. Ptolemy then claimed that he was Alexander's cousin, so that he can have legitimacy in claiming the title Pharaoh himself.
It doesn't make sense Ptolemy would need to legitimize Alexander to the Egyptians who had already legitimized him themselves. Ptolemy did, however, need to legitimize himself in the eyes of the Egyptians.
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What happened when tired and enraged allied armies started discovering concentration camps in world war II by the front.
I think you are wrong about "not having it both ways" regarding Ptolemy and Alexander's father. The claims were made for different audiences. The Egyptian population would have loved (if not necessarily believed) the idea of the liberator Alexander being the son of Pharaoh. The Greeks who knew full well whose son Alexander was, may have allowed for Phillip spreading his oats that far.
4:29 I actually have seen some theories since his body was in such good condition he was paralyzed or in a coma and he was actually buried alive
well he was embalmed. which would have killed him. no being buried alive
"In desperate need of money to pay his mercenaries, he melted down Alexander's golden sarcophagus replacing it with one made of glass"
All I can think is: How much cheaper was glass as a material? It can't have been all that cheap. And now I really want to know about the glassmaking process and expense involved in Ptolemaic Egypt.
Not to mention how much skill of a glassmaker you have to be to make an entire coffin made of glass
I mean glass wouldn’t have been cheap sure, but we are talking about a massive solid gold, possibly ivy inlaid, coffin. That would have been near priceless. It’s definitely a downgrade to go for glass.
"Alexander the dead"
"I've got Phonecia, Gaza, Egypt, Persia and Afghanistan in my expansion pack!"
I used to be a big Alexander "fan" I guess you could say. But recently I have come to rethink my position. I certainly think that Alexander was remarkable. He is one of the few "great men of history" that actually lives up to that title. He was handed a very powerful and professional army upon becoming an adult and then went and conquered basically the entire civilized world as like a college student in terms of age. He even defeated the greatest empire the world had ever seen in the process without ever losing a single battle. The echoes of his life still reverberate through the world because of the spread of Greek culture and what not, and it's a very dramatic and entertaining story to read of Alexander if he's the protagonist in the story.
Now though I think about what it would have been like to live through Alexander's conquests and the years afterwards as an educated citizen let's say in Egypt, Babylon, Persia, Turkey, or any of the places that he conquered. From that point of view he looks a LOT like some demon king you'd see from a fantasy novel that has showed up with this evil hyper professional and unstoppable army from the edges of the known world and is now tearing apart the prosperous, relatively stable, and established authority in the world. That must have been absolutely terrifying for those citizens to see the Persian Empire, the centuries old (relatively) tolerant empire in which they lived, torn down around them by means of violence in a very short period of time. All of those institutions, comforts, and way of life of those people immediately being changed forever. Then not only that, but when he's offered half the empire by Darius, he refused because he wanted to destroy the entirety of the empire and take it all for himself, for his own glory. Such that nothing exists that is not Alexander's.
I find it much harder to admire Alexander now. If someone where to do something like that today to say the US or Europe or even the same places in the Middle East Alexander conquered, any educated citizen in today's world would be horrified by what he was doing. I think that maybe because here in the West we are culturally influenced by the Greeks that we view the spread of Hellenism as a good thing, despite how it was spread to that part of the world. And even then, that was a byproduct of Alexander's conquests and not his intention. His intention, again Demon King Alexander here, was to literally take over the world. I can't help but be impressed that he actually managed to do it, and by personally leading the cavalry charges that won his battles at that, but maybe the correct emotion to feel there is terror of the demon king rather than respect or admiration.
Well of course every Great conquer looks like that from the people he's conquering
@@Zachattack1212 Yeah, but wouldn't a third party observer see it that way as well? One does not need to be on the receiving end of the conquering to be horrified by the violent destruction of the existing world order and the potential for immense chaos and catastrophe that could create. Imagine if some country like Guatemala suddenly conquered all of Central America and then conquered the entire United States within the span of 10 years. All the while wiping out cities that defy them and looting and enslaving the other's in their path. How would the rest of the world in Europe, Asia and Africa would view that? Keep in mind that this isn't Alexander subjugating a neighboring tribe of barbarians somewhere. This is the dominant global power, which again exists as a stable and prosperous land for it's inhabitants, that he is destroying. Alexander and his Macedonians were also not viewed in that world as a cultured and sophisticated people in the way that we view them today either. They were seen as barbaric by the Greek City States, the Persians, and everyone else too. To everyone at that time, I would think that this looks like the demon king rampaging the land. We just so happen to have learned of Alexander primarily through sources in the Greeks and Romans who admired violent conquest and his conquest in particular because of how it benefited them.
It would be like reading about Darth Vader, but only having the official Imperial records and the records of the First Order later on to go by.
Also, I feel like I should ask this: Does being Greek or being culturally influenced by the Greeks as we are 2,000 years later somehow make what Alexander did to those people not horrific? I mean Alexander is an interesting guy and all, but violent conquest is a pretty brutal thing to inflict on any people let alone the whole world.
React to alexander the great' battles either by kings and generals or baz battles. They are amazing and we can see a different era than the ones we usually see in your channel
Oversimplified posted a new video about the Pig Wars. I would like to see you react to the video. It’s pretty funny
Did that reaction the day it came out!
Bruh he did that already how'd u not see
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