Was Carlos Correa Right When He Ripped Derek Jeter’s Gold Glove Awards? | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Yankees fan Rich Eisen refutes the controversial comments from free agent SS Carlos Correa who ripped Derek Jeter saying the Yankees Hall of Famer did not deserve to win any Gold Glove Awards.
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Jeter was not the best defensive SS in baseball ever
I mean the numbers say Jeter was the worst defensive shortstop in baseball history
Worst in history? Have you not seen Gleyber Torres? I think you should dig deeper. There's plenty worse. Jeter was good SS. Not the best, no one has ever said he's the best unless you're mental. But he definitely worthy of the HoF.
And the numbers don’t lie
Your wife can be the best wife ever, but she can be a bad cook. The love of your life!!! But a bad cook. Jeter was a winner and good hitter….. not a good defensive SS. Those are facts.
Lol Jeter was literally one of the most clutch players of all time when the games mattered like in the playoff’s and World Series. That shouldn’t be left out
@@ballin-4687 No one has said he wasn’t. But that is not the reason for winning a Gold Glove.
Here is an example: Is like saying that Vince Carter is the GOAT or MVP, because of his spectacular dunks. Or that Robert Horry is the GOAT or MVP, because he was clutch.
Dereck Jeter has a -162 DRS (which started being counted in 2002) and his UZR numbers before that where terrible, he did not deserve any of those awards
Yankee fan here, Jeter started winning gold gloves because Arod moved to 3rd
A-Rod was statistically a top 10 SS. Jeter is at 44 defensively, but was absolutely clutch in the field when the world was watching.
@@mockingslur6945 A-Rod had so much range at 3rd that Jeter didn't have to do as much because A-Rod was always there, not to mention he didn't have to compete against A-Rod anymore
More like because Omar Vizquel had a serious injury that cost him the majority of both the 2002 & 2003 seasons. As much bias as they had towards Jeter later on, they Vizquel was too damn good for him to stop winning the award as long as he was healthy and a regular player.
He had won the award 9 years in a row prior to his injury. A-Rod only won the award those two years before Jeter because Vizquel wasn't playing.
I love Rich, but this segment reeked with hometown bias. What does inspiring Xander to wear #2 and how old Correa was during Jeter’s prime have to do with anything?
Well, they have everything to do with the point. Derek Jeter was a great baseball player. Who is this guy, to talk that smack? When an All-Star shortstop starts wearing Correia's number, when he is the new face of one of baseball's most storied franchises, he can talk.
That help you get where Rich is coming from?
Very true. Rich could have addressed it with some evidence that is concrete. Instead he responded by attacking the guy rather than the argument.
Derek was a great hitter and a great leader but not a good defensive shortstop
He was def a good shortstop lol not the greatest but very good
His defense won games
“Hot glove in the hole” hahahaha hilarious
facts... we all know what he meant.. Rich was mad but played it off
Best line ever
Jeter is statistically one of the worst defenders of all time. Beat that Correa
Correa never say that jeter suck as a player but that he didn’t deserve his 5 gold glover which he is not lying about that
true, but its also not warranted... when players win awards, unless you personally were in the running, shut up (this goes for Correa obviously, not for you lol)
@@nephalm5357 he doesn’t like the Yankee’s. He’s using his Free Agency to troll them.
He may not be lying. He's also not a legend; who the hell is he, compared to Derek Jeter? It'd carry more weight if one of Jeter's peers piped up, feeling snubbed by one of his questionable Gold Gloves.
@@eugenedenbrook322 he’s still pretty young, but I was never a Jeter fan. Yankees seem to hate Altuve more than him, and I think that is why he is trolling.
@@eugenedenbrook322 doesn't matter how much weight it carries. It's truth. The true doesn't care about feelings or who says it or how much weight it carries.
I love how people are acting like this is a new thought. People have been saying this for literally a decade (you can find an article from 2009 talking about this). This is not a new take. Derek Jeter was undoubtedly a great player and anyone who says he was not is a fool. He deserves credit for being able to play shortstop for 20 years, but the advanced stats show that he was not a good defensive shortstop and should not have won 5 gold gloves. If you don't believe in those advanced stats because they are for nerds that don't understand baseball, fine. Let's compare Jeter to the man that actually should have won his gold glove award in 2005, Jack Wilson. In 2005, Derek Jeter had more errors, lower fielding percentage, created less double plays and less assists than Jack Wilson. Now let's do this again in 2006, but compare him to Michael Young (one of the few shortstops Jeter is considered better defensively by advanced stats). Jeter had more errors, lower fielding percentage, less assists and less double plays than a shortstop that the advanced stats say is worse defensively than Jeter. I guarantee you could do this every year Derek Jeter won a gold glove. Also, don't you dare argue the eye test. Have you ever noticed that Jeter's iconic fielding plays (the flip, the jump throw, the dive into the crowd, etc.) occurred in the late 90s and early 2000s? Otherwise known as the years where Jeter did not win a gold glove. No matter how you look at it, whether you use advanced stats, basic stats or even just watch the games, Jeter did not deserve his gold gloves. Derek Jeter is still a great player, his hitting more than made up for his defensive shortcomings and he deserved his silver sluggers. However, his "winning attitude" doesn't change his overrated defense.
forgot about Jack Wilson. That man made some beautiful plays at short.
100% accurate
Gold Gloves are just popularity contests which really does a disservice to the guys who manage to play a decade in the majors despite hitting .220 with no power. They deserve some recognition of the fact that they are valuable and help their team. Jeters lack of an arm made him play shallow and his range was super limited. A-Rod was a significantly better fielder in the years leading up to him joining the Yankees and doesn't get enough credit for not making a fuss over moving to 3rd
No it was a popularity contest. Jeter wasn’t a good fielder. But he made high light plays and back then they jus said oh yeah that’s the gold glove right there. But now they have all these stats and stuff to find out the right one. Cause we all know arenado and Correa are definitely platinum gold glove worthy
Umh, A-Roid didn't fuss because Jeter was Mr. Yankee, and PayRod was a substance abusing, lying mercenary, who was not very popular in any place he was. I still fondly remember him slapping the ball from Arroyo like a panicking toddler, and trying to plead his case.
@@nolimit4484 Ah, yes, the mysterious "they." 😉
@@nolimit4484 I didn’t even know there was a Platinum Glove until this year when Correa won it. That’s how much I don’t really pay attention to it because when a player wins one, it seems like they just give it to that player for the next 5-10 year’s.
@@eugenedenbrook322 nobody knew about A-Rod’s steroid use until he started banging Conseco’s ex-wife. Lol
Lmao rich is mad cause he knows Correa has a case
He literally had no argument for Jeter deserving Gold gloves. Your fandom or anyone else's fandom nor your appreciation for how great a player he was does not take away that he NEVER was the best fielding shortstop in the American League. Not even once.
Find out the DRS stats about Jeter and then you will see if Carlos has well founded argument or not.
A-Rod was a better SS. They even tried to move Jeter to 2nd.
He allows 250 runs he didn't deserve the golden gloves, he had a -165 do the math 🤔 is not a popularity contest.
I was expecting an informed take, and all Rich wanted to do was talk about diapers. He's blind to the reality that Jeter was an average defensive shortstop. That takes nothing away from his legend, it's just reality.
If Derek Jeter played for any team besides the Yankees, nobody would care about him and he'd have far less accolades.
That’s complete bullshit! You need to take a look! He wasn’t the greatest SS but he was clutch so many times and a great all around player.
Was he the greatest defensive shortstop of all time?? No. But who constantly went deep in the hole and made the accurate jump throw that so many do now?? Who sacrificed his body going full speed into the stands?? AND have you ever seen another SS ever..EVER, be in a position where no one else would ever have even thought to be and save a playoff series??? There's more to defense than just defensive metrics.
That was a beautiful statement but your getting emotional about an award that's not about emotion nearly as much as statistics (which Jeter shoes he was average). The award has been hijacked and is more about popularity now a days but it used to not be like that. The truth is more about the people receiving it than the person telling it. The truth is the truth.
When the host is just a fanboy
Awards, like in any other industry, can be political in the sports world. Jeter's HOF credentials were about compiling numbers over a long period of time. Although, he did lead the league in hits twice and runs scoring once, Jeter was never an MVP or batting champion. He didn't start an all-star game until Nomar and A-Rod weren't available. He was never considered the best player in the game at any point, by any metric. The writers had to give him something to justify all the praise he got for winning championships (which are TEAM accomplishments). So, they were left with Gold Gloves to award him, none of which he deserved. In fact, after being merely an average defensive shortstop for the first half of his career, he was well below-average for the rest. But his ego wouldn't allow him to switch positions, which could have helped to team. So much for the theory "he was all about winning". When you give him one GG, let alone five, you're diminishing the value of the award.
Yankee fan here. But him been a winner, hall of famer and bla bla..doesnt matter in this discussion. You have to be objective and if the numbers says that he wasn't a good SS then thats the truth. Why get upset about that.? You can still be his fan afterwards.
Jeter had 254 errors and didn’t deserve any of his gold gloves
Until the 2010s, Gold Glove awards were popularity contests...sometimes awarded to the folks with the best OFFENSIVE STATS...or the " stars " of the good or " popular " teams...Jeter checks all those boxes
I agree, that’s why I haven’t paid much attention to Gold Glove award’s in a long time. They are all Major League player’s, but some stand out more than other’s. Correa could have won more than he has than this year, but because it was his contract year, I think more people noticed.
you do not need advance stats to know Jeter was not a golden glove caliber shortstop... him winning golden gloves was a disgrace to the award. having said that, he was a great player though. but defensively, he left a hole at shortstop.
lmao all hes gonna do is talk about how young Carlos was while Jeter was playing..... All that to avoid the FACT that Jeter ranks at the very bottom when it comes to MLB defense.
Numbers vs emotions
No he did not deserve them.
Gold Gloves are terrible awards to begin with. Yes with modern metrics Jeter was bad defensively but even today those metrics do not dictate who wins gold gloves. Look no further than Judge this year he was the best right fielder in the AL by every metric but didn’t with the GG. But gold gloves are almost as bad as Wins based Cy Young awards they are pointless and a relic of voters being stupid.
Do you know what Derek Jeter can do Carlos? Pass his physical.
The numbers agree with Correa but defense is an eye test and a feel and as a Red Sox fan I thought jeter was a very good defensive SS
I am not even a Yankees fan, Jeter is the best Shortstop ever.
yeah...jeter maaaaaybe deserved 2 of those, but definitely not 5
Derek Jeter is literally the worst defensive player of all time according to DRS. And he's pretty close with UZR too. If he was merely an average defender and people were saying he was overrated it would be a kinda lame argument. But he was absolute trash. He absolute never deserved a single gold glove. It's just the truth.
I'm a Sox fan and I even can't go alone with this. Growing up in the 90s playing baseball when you think of a shortstop you think of Jeter
That doesn't mean he was great defensively though. Weak arm. Not a great shortstop by any stretch. Of course he's better than almost everyone off the street but in the MLB he didn't deserve the gold gloves. Correa is a cheater but he is right about this.
Naw, Ozzie and A-Rod before I think of Jeter.
“I’m a Sox fan and I…can’t…think”
@@explained4242 back then they seen jeter make HIGHLIGHT plays and they were like oh yeah that’s the gold glove. Carlos Correa is miles better than jeter defensively
I think of Omar Vizquel. Him and Ozzie are the best ever.
Correa should spend more time admitting that his team cheated and got away with cheating.
They act like players can't watch old footage of players and have an opinion. I wasn't born when Babe Ruth was around, but I can see from the videos, he wasn't the most athletic guy ever.
Yankees fan 65 yes. Cheter average player, not a nice person.
So good
Eiseen, Please leave your feeling at home. The fact is Jeter DRS is all negative.
I hate the Astros but if everyone in the comments section has more defensive runs saved than you.... you might be a tad over-rated. I don't know about you but if the premier award for defense has been received five times by statistically the worst Fielder of all-time what does that say? You don't just happen to get -153 runs saved during your career.
Derek Jeter earned 5 WS Rings.
GivesAShit about GG awards?
Correa is currently the top shortstop in baseball but he should stay away from interviews till 2031.
Carlos North Korea should go to Boston. Perfect fit;)
Is this a joke?
Rich here is your L I didn’t see a viable argument proving jeter deserved those gold glove
who
Overrated. Didn’t get a gold glove till the great ones retired
Perfect example of why Carlos Correa is the modern day Arod. Great player but he gives you so many reasons to hate him.
He said a reality
@@ler3122 and it doesn’t do anything positive for Correa. Some things are better left unsaid.
@@RM-fi2gn oh yes keep all opinions to yourself and never say a word that’s a good way to live
I think him and A-Rod are good friend’s.
@@ler3122 Here's another reality: Correia can't carry Jeter's jock. So maybe he should climb down off it.
The greatest defensive shortstop of all time is Ozzie Smith
Totally agree. I have NEVER seen a better fielding shortstop.
Derek Jeter was mediocre defensively.
Why listen to the words of a PROVEN CHEATER! CHEATER! CHEATER! CHEATER! CHEATER!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Of course Correa was correct. The NY media regularly overvalues NY players....they created the legend of Billy The Kid, after all. Have you ever seen The Kid's actual foto?
Coming from a guy who cheated and got caught you should be banned from any golden gloves you hypocrite
Of course he is right,,,,I'm a die hard Yankee fan and have respect for Jeter but let's be honest,,, average shortstop,, average hitter,,,, period.. he carried himself in a way that made people think he was better at baseball for some reason. Yes he made a few nice plays in the playoffs but the players he played with won those championships.. he was in the right place at the right time kinda thing. He was never a top 3 or 4 short stop his whole career and was a slap hitter ,,, but this proves that in life no matter what you do whether it's sports,, a factory job,, police officer,, garbage man if you Carrie your self in a certain way people will hold you in a higher regard
Yeah cause average hitters hit for a lifetime. 300 average, 3,000+ hits, 200+ home runs, has a 20 year career, wins 5 world series, 14 all star games, a multitude of awards, and gets 1 vote shy of a unanimous Hall of Fame vote. Yeah totally average.
Well playing for 20 years as a slap hitter he better have 3,000 hits,, lol. If he played for the Baltimore orioles with his numbers he would not be in the hall of Fame ,, period. Right time,,right place with alot of players around him to win championships. You know how many players that batted over 300 and are not in the hall of Fame,,,alot. Average hitter,, average shortstop,,, he got lucky to have played in the situation and that got him into the hall of Fame,,, not his talent at all,,, the way he carried himself absolutely.
@@markmacintyre5628 HOF 3K Hits: Other than Jeter, there are only 31 players with 3,000+ hits. Pujols is active, 3 players eligible for the HOF soon AROD (2021), Beltré (2023) and Ichiro (2025). The ONLY players NOT in the HOF are Rafael Palmeiro (use of p-ed´s) and Pete Rose (gambling scandal). The other 25 are ALL in the HOF.
HOF 300 AVG: Other than Jeter, there are 184 "slap hitters" in history, players with a .300+ batting average. Miggie, Altuve, Trout, Cano, Votto, LeMahieu and Blackmon are active. Half of them played from 1880 to 1919, when baseball wasn´t even a job. Still, 20% (40) of them ar NOT in the HOF for a reason (which I would not consider "a lot" as you stated). "Big Names" like Shoeless Joe Jackson (part of the Black Sox scandal), Nomar Garciaparra (injury prone career), Todd Helton (playing in Coors Field at home stacks the stats) or Manny Ramirez (a pathetic teammate) are PROOF that stats, playing in a big team and talent are NOT ENOUGH to get in the HOF.
Carlos Correa is having a good career. But those kind of antics (talking about a retired player who was at his prime when you were learning how to read) are exactly the kind of things that help you NOT get in the HOF ballot. Maybe he´s pissed because compared to Correa, by this time in his career, Jeter had 418 more hits, 26 more doubles, 20 more triples, 50 more walks, 102 more stolen bases, 277 more runs, Or maybe it´s the fact that Correa only has ONE more RBI than Jeter at this stage of his career. I don´t know, how about it´s because Jeter was averaging .320 and Correa is .277, or Jeter´s .392 OBP against Correa´s.356 OBP. Or maybe it´s Jeter being voted for Top 10 MVP players in 4 of 5 and Correa only 1 of 3 nominations. Or maybe it´s Jeter going to 4 All Star Games and Correa only to 2. Perhaps it´s just the 4 World Series Rings against Correa´s 1 or that WS MVP in 2000. I have no idea. The funny thing is Jeter hadn´t won any Golden Gloves yet, good thing he was just average. God knows what the Yankees would have done with an elite SS... LMAO!
Jeter win his first cause ARod moved to 3rd. 2002-2003 was Arod the winner and ARod wont it because Vizquel went to SanFran.
Vizquel was absolutely fantastic. I watched him play 3rd base for Texas when he was 42 years old. He caught a one hop bullet with his bare hand, unbelievable.
Derek jeter >
He is the worst fielder in the HOF
Like being the poorest billionaire in the country club...
Correa might be right, but he is not exactly the right person to call Jeet out (He a cheater) 🤡
Jeter doesn’t deserve those gold gloves
Whether or not he’s right or not, Carlos Correa is a clown whose in no position to question the credentials of any player, justly or not. Win a world title without stealing signs, then we’ll talk
Jeter the most overrated player of all time. Role player for the first set of rings, most expensive roster for the last one. If he wasnt in NYC no one would care.
If you weren't any damn where, no one would care.
ok hater. 3600+ hits, .310 career average. 158 playoff games played with 200 hits, 111 runs scored, .308 average. 2000 WS MVP. Overrated. FOH
@@arthil21 definitely HOF worthy fantastic hitter and leader but never a great fielding shortstop.
@@arthil21 those are all offensive stats this is a defensive matter 😂🤣😭🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Haters 😆 whether he deserved them or not at least he didn't cheat people will quickly forget about this idiots comments but will forever remember the asstro cheating scandal and that dirty ring couldn't even beat the braves
Not hating, just telling the truth. "The truth" is more about the people receiving it than the person telling it. Doesn't care about emotions or past or present. The truth is the truth. Pretty simple.
Yes and jeter played in a Yankees team that was roided up.. so his rings are trash too.. don’t be a hypocrite
Jeter made plays when they mattered most...
This is like saying Michael Jordan wasn't a great three point shooter, does it really matter? Jeter is still one of the best ever and I'm not a Yankee fan.
Disrespectful period 🙄
No! Didn't you see him? Big guy, ever alert, tremendous vertical leap, good speed, flying flat oout into the stands at full tilt, sure-handed and leader of an excellent defense with the strongest and most accurate arm in the game. Oh, and the flip was genius. Correa ain't got that game. He's just digging his hole deeper.
Lol. You are letting a cheater talk about a legend? Don’t give the dude the air time.
But he's right. He is a cheater but he's right about this.
That cheater from Houston couldn't even fit in Derek jeter's shoes let alone tie them.
He is a cheater but he is right. Jeter had a weak arm and was average at shortstop. He was popular so he got them but he did not deserve them. He was not popular for his defense.
Correa is a monster in the field. Ive seen him make plays Jeter couldnt
Hes just mad cuz he didnt deserve his
Carrera is a Hater & NOT correct. Not a Yankees fan, but he DID deserve his gold gloves.
No he didn't