ALCS Gm2: A.J. reaches first on dropped third strike

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  • 10/12/05: A.J. Pierzynski reaches first on a disputed dropped third strike
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  • @Doomerscroller25
    @Doomerscroller25 Před 4 lety +53

    AJ admitted on a White Sox broadcast that he wasn’t sure if it was the ball hitting the dirt or the glove hitting the dirt. He also said he thought the home plate ump basically panicked

    • @arturotabanico5876
      @arturotabanico5876 Před rokem +7

      I think the umpire made a bad call, the catcher cought the ball cleanly.

    • @hmhm856
      @hmhm856 Před rokem +4

      @@arturotabanico5876 Bottom line, the home plate umpire signaled strike 3 swing and miss when he extended the arm, and then he called the hitter out when he did the fist.
      Surprisingly, if I remember correctly, when the umpire was questioned, he said that the fist-signal means that the play is still alive (WHAT THE HECK)

    • @DavidEmerling79
      @DavidEmerling79 Před 6 měsíci

      @@arturotabanico5876 On a low pitch like that, the catcher should do one of two things: 1) immediately show the umpire the ball which is the catcher's way of saying, "I caught it." Umpires usually accept that, or 2) immediately tag the runner.
      What the catcher should *not* do is roll the ball back to the mound as this catcher did.

    • @DavidEmerling79
      @DavidEmerling79 Před 3 měsíci

      @@arturotabanico5876 Most catchers who catch the ball on a low pitch like that do not simply roll the ball out to the mound. They are aware that the umpire *may* have thought the ball hit the ground so they either a) show the umpire the ball, indicating that they caught it or b) tag the runner before heading to the dugout. If the runner takes off running and the catcher is unable to tag him, most catchers will throw it to 1st even if they are convinced they caught the pitch. There is no time to dispute the matter.

    • @jebidiahmorales227
      @jebidiahmorales227 Před měsícem

      He was the backup behind the plate. But to reward someone(AJ striking out and getting awarded first base) for failing should never be a thing.

  • @alexh8613
    @alexh8613 Před 9 lety +202

    The umpire called him out though. He makes the strike call, and then makes a fist, indicating that the catcher caught the ball. He then acts like he never made the call.

    • @nathanielkahn9681
      @nathanielkahn9681 Před 9 lety +7

      Alex H your right, he def signaled out

    • @larry930legend
      @larry930legend Před 8 lety +13

      I've been watching MLB since the Pony Express,wouldn't you know I never heard of this umpire Eddings til he missed the call. To me this wasone of the worst calls in playoff history.
      White Sox went on 2 sweep Angels to win 05 pennant.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 8 lety +30

      +Alex H If its a dropped third strike or the ball touches the ground on strike 3 (which the umpire assumed the ball did) the batter will be called OUT on strikes HOWEVER its up to the catcher to throw to first or tag the runner to make it official.
      There have been multiple innings with literally more than 3 outs due to the catcher not throwing the ball to first on time. in fact there have been multiple innings where a pitchers strikes out 5 (yes five) guys in the same inning. catcher doesn't throw the ball on time to first after a swinging strike on a wild pitch and the batters cn reach safely.
      The dilemma here is whether the ball touched a part of the ground (which i think it did not and im a white sox fan) HOWEVER its um to the umpires discretion to determine whether the ball touched the ground or not

    • @alexh8613
      @alexh8613 Před 8 lety +23

      Uggh Omar, yes that is the basic rule. But that's not what was called. When the umpire clenches his fist, that indicates that not only it is strike three, but also that the catcher caught the ball, completing the putout. You post ignores the fact that the umpire clenched his fist after calling strike three.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 8 lety +2

      So then Alex H​ explain the excuse the umpires gave Mike Socia when Mike clearly indicated the "pumped fist" call, what could the umpires possibly have been telling him? My thinking is that they were telling him the Pump fist just meant strikeout but not necessarily indicating a clean catch. What do you think they told him?
      And my post doesn't ignore the pumped fist call. I said he *struck out* but the catcher never threw to first.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před 2 lety +27

    Watching it again that’s exactly what it is, when AJ turned briefly he saw the right arm extended indicating a pass/dropped 3rd strike and immediately took off. The Ump kind of panicked thinking he missed it at that point and let AJ’s confusion dictate his action.

    • @hmhm856
      @hmhm856 Před rokem +2

      The ump after the extended arm then did the fist-out-signal, which means that AJ is out.

  • @92Vreid88
    @92Vreid88 Před 3 lety +42

    This still haunts me.

  • @bigblue9996
    @bigblue9996 Před 8 lety +94

    Greg Gibson would have motioned to both players

  • @corngreaterthanwheat
    @corngreaterthanwheat Před 2 lety +44

    This really killed the Angels... Well, that and the three games after that where they refused to hit 😂😂😂

    • @Burg_38
      @Burg_38 Před rokem +6

      If they go up 2 - 0 who knows what happens... probably the worst call of all time

    • @andrewscasualmtb
      @andrewscasualmtb Před rokem +7

      @@Burg_38 Definitely the worst call in Angels history. They haven't done anything of any significance since this year either. This call has cursed them.

    • @thechild7355
      @thechild7355 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@andrewscasualmtb They made the ALCS in 2009.

  • @jonathanashbeck3740
    @jonathanashbeck3740 Před 7 lety +13

    I'd like to hear the calls from Jon Miller & Joe Morgan on ESPN Radio and from Rory Markas & Terry Smith on Angels Radio.

  • @oscarvillamor7767
    @oscarvillamor7767 Před 11 měsíci +3

    It did hit the ground

  • @DavidEmerling79
    @DavidEmerling79 Před 3 lety +12

    Here's the problem: Umpires are either "pointers" or "hammers" in the manner that they call strikes. Doug Eddings, the plate umpire, is a hammer guy. His normal strike mechanic is to make a hammer, the identical signal that the umpire makes when calling a runner out. (NOTE: All umpires at professional umpire schools are required to be hammer guys, by the way) So, when manager, Mike Scioscia, keeps gesturing with his fist and saying, "You called him out!" I'm sure Doug Eddings explained that he was simply calling the pitch a strike.
    Having said that, if you watch it closely, Doug Eddings first extends his arm parallel to the ground PRIOR to giving his hammer gesture. What was THAT supposed to mean? I think Eddings was actually signaling a swinging strike and then followed it up with what he actually intended to be an OUT call, not a STRIKE call. Then, when A.J. Pierzynski (the batter) took off running, Eddings was probably thinking, "Hmm - maybe the catcher didn't catch that. Certainly, the batter didn't think he caught it. Maybe he didn't catch it" and, sadly (for the Angels) he went with that.
    This all happened before video review. Today, this would have been easily fixed; although, I have to say, it's not 100% clear that the catcher caught the ball cleanly.

    • @joshuapatrick682
      @joshuapatrick682 Před 2 lety +2

      Watching it again that’s exactly what it is, when AJ turned briefly he saw the right arm extended indicating a pass/dropped 3rd strike and immediately took off. The Ump kind of panicked thinking he missed it at that point and let AJ’s confusion dictate his action.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt Před 6 měsíci +1

      On a dropped third strike you never make a “hammer” motion until the out has actually been recorded. The umpire called him out, but AJ’s reaction seemed to convince him he missed the call so he pretended he didn’t. In reality he had the call right the first time, and should have had the backbone to stick to his conviction.

  • @TheHaloRed
    @TheHaloRed Před 10 lety +17

    If only instant replay occured in 2005....

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 9 lety +3

      TheHaloRed If only Josh Paul tags AJ Pierzynski or throw it to first base instead of rolling the ball towards the pitcher's mound.

    • @TheHaloRed
      @TheHaloRed Před 8 lety +4

      +joesakic91 Paul didn't have to. He clearly caught the ball. The ump (Eddings) didn't say shit.

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 8 lety

      TheHaloRed So? Josh Paul still has to tag A.J. Pierzynski out or throw it to first base to complete the strikeout just in case.

    • @TheHaloRed
      @TheHaloRed Před 8 lety +3

      No, he does not. The ball wasn't trapped, and the ump raised his arm and called Pierzynski out. Sure, Paul could have tagged in case, but he didn't have to. If instant replay occurred back then, the call would have been reversed based on MLB rules, the runner would be out, and the inning over. BTW, if it was that simple, then why did the umps have to waste time and have a conference about it?

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 8 lety

      TheHaloRed Instant replay or not, Josh Paul should've tagged out A.J. Pierzynski or throw it to first base just in case.
      Rules 6.05 and 6.09 of the Official Baseball Rules
      On an uncaught third strike with no runner on first base or with two outs, the batter immediately becomes a runner. The strike is called, but the umpire does not call the batter out. The umpire may also actively signal that there is "no catch" of the pitch. The batter may then attempt to reach first base and must be tagged or forced out. With two outs and the bases loaded, the catcher who fails to catch the third strike may, upon picking up the ball, step on home plate for a force-out or make a throw to any other base in an effort to force out a runner.
      Paul made the mistake and it cost the Angels.

  • @click789101112
    @click789101112 Před 7 lety +68

    Mike Scoscia puts up a good argument but, as a former catcher himself, he knows the battle was lost due to inattention or carelessness on the part of his own catcher Josh Paul. Always, ALWAYS tag the batter or throw to first on Strike Three if its a borderline ball in the dirt, whether you caught it cleanly it or not.

    • @Rowgue51
      @Rowgue51 Před 7 lety +13

      The umpire clearly called him out both verbally and visually. Despite the fairy tale they wanted to sell you at the time, umpires do not call an out on a dropped third strike and never have. They call strike three but do not call the out until the out is actually registered by either tagging or throwing the runner out. Once an out is called the play is over, period.

    • @click789101112
      @click789101112 Před 7 lety +8

      Watch the replay; Josh Paul was already on his way to the dugout when Eddings made the call. He was gone before AJ was, doubtful long enough to see or hear any call. Regardless, I agree with your point but all it would have taken to resolve the issue was for the umps to motion to AJ to get back in the dugout. Essentially, AJ called their bluff by running to First, and they bought it.

    • @peoriavideosltd6822
      @peoriavideosltd6822 Před 5 lety +5

      Wow, watching this just now for the first time since 2005, I have to wonder: Was Josh Paul on his way to microwave a pizza between innings? He was almost to the dugout steps before he realized something was going on behind him. Careless move on his part.

    • @ethan9than
      @ethan9than Před 5 lety +3

      if he KNOWS that he caught the ball he does not need to tag the player, that was just a dirty play from a dirty player

    • @jebidiahmorales227
      @jebidiahmorales227 Před 4 lety +1

      MANCHESTER UNITED soccer is for people without hand’s, the greatest tool on the planet. Keep kicking your ball in a dirt field and act like it’s wonderful.

  • @ict113090
    @ict113090 Před 9 lety +6

    I'll never forgot how pissed I was. Fucking threw my remote after that game. Umpires have a real knack for fucking the Angels over in the ALCS. Especially in 09

  • @TheHaloRed
    @TheHaloRed Před 5 lety +6

    The catcher (Josh Paul) is the Angels current Bench Coach.

  • @garretttylerson3005
    @garretttylerson3005 Před 9 lety +42

    Being an Angels fan, this play of course makes me upset. I hear often from other Angels fans that this play cost us the series. But, personally I think that's just an excuse. We lost the series 4 games to 1, and we got wiped out in games 3-5. I mean, had we lost the series in game 7 then I would think otherwise. But that's not the case. I think it's obvious that this call did not cost us the series. It shifted momentum in the series sure, but there's no direct correlation with us losing the series.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 9 lety +9

      I have the 2005 DVDs of the white sox championship run and you are absolutely correct (im a White Sox fan by the way).
      the analysts in game 5 were saying how the angels offense disappeared. Vlad Guerrero was hitting .110 and had a career post season mark of .190. Your starting pitching was solid, bullpen solid, but essentially the Sox just had everything right in this series, The Sox lost game one because they were just cold and lost the small ball they had all year. we lost game 1 3-2 and those 2 runs both came on groundouts.

    • @brianmcmahon1546
      @brianmcmahon1546 Před 9 lety +7

      Garrett Tylerson We may never really know. Momentum means a lot and heading out of Chicago and back to CA, the Angels certainly would have been in a very different position. The bottom line is there's nothing to do about it now. The Sox were still a very deserving team that year and yes, they won the other games fair and square so it is what it is.

    • @aggressiveattitudeera887
      @aggressiveattitudeera887 Před 8 lety +5

      Thank you. I'm a Sox fan and you have no idea how tired I am hearing from Cubs fans how Bartman cost them the World Series. Unless it's a game 7, that's impossible. That's why I'm glad to hear a Angels fan put the responsibility in this case where it belongs. The call was bad yes, but it did NOT cost them the whole LCS. Just like Bartman didn't cost the Cubs.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 8 lety +1

      Yes, the Angels were scary good in 2005 *****​​​​​​ not sure if Angels fans are aware of this but the Sox have always struggled against west coast teams, Oakland and Angels especially. I was more eager to play the Yankees in 2005 than the Angels. You guys had a good season but sort of lost that punch in game 4&5 of the NLDS against the Yankees and it carried over.
      I've always said that the 2002 Angels were like the Marlins of 2003, the Cardinals of 2011, or Royals of 2015...they just couldn't be stopped

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 8 lety

      ***** yes! Thanks, didn't. Notice that, I fixed it.

  • @hadmiar8
    @hadmiar8 Před 9 lety +42

    Not a fan of either team, but that was a bad call. Angels got fucked there.

    • @click789101112
      @click789101112 Před 7 lety +15

      Didn't the Angels bat something like .100 in this series? That my friends is the real reason they lost.

    • @christianhanson700
      @christianhanson700 Před 7 lety +1

      It's just a what if

    • @eddiezwickl8604
      @eddiezwickl8604 Před 7 lety

      White Sox championship based off a fluke.

    • @smellyjerk
      @smellyjerk Před 6 lety +9

      Eddie Zwickl one loss in the post while being 1st all year. Fluke, right....

    • @smellyjerk
      @smellyjerk Před 6 lety

      Herp Derp butthurt angels fan living in lala land. Thats how lol

  • @brandonrab
    @brandonrab Před rokem +1

    I was 9 years old when this happen and I always think of it when ever a catcher gets a close one on a strike out haha

  • @dolphinsneu
    @dolphinsneu Před 10 lety +17

    The fault of the umpire was that he didn't make the call clearly

  • @joesakic91
    @joesakic91 Před 2 lety +2

    Aaron Judge's missed strike three when Christian Vazquez failed to tag him out or throw to first base last night brought me here.

  • @bkelsey6692
    @bkelsey6692 Před 3 lety +2

    Now the Padres game today makes so much more sense.

  • @baconlettucetitties349
    @baconlettucetitties349 Před 10 lety +46

    Looks like a clean catch to me

  • @richardstephens7636
    @richardstephens7636 Před 3 lety +2

    I would’ve shotgunned a beer when this happened but I was a kid so shotgunned a beer now while watching this in lieu of doing it then.

  • @sdaftermath123
    @sdaftermath123 Před 10 lety +38

    aj pierzinski......one of the smartest to ever play the game..

  • @superadam2112
    @superadam2112 Před 10 lety +11

    Being a sox fan, this was the game changer for us. I can only imagine if AJ didn't get that call

    • @aggressiveattitudeera887
      @aggressiveattitudeera887 Před 8 lety +10

      We would've beat them in 6 instead of 5. Let's face it. The Sox were in GOD MODE. They swept the defending champions for Pete's sake. Doesn't it behoove anyone to think that they would've overcome an 0-2 hole? And who's to say the White Sox would've lost THIS game? If A.J. was called out(like he SHOULD have LOL), it would've been extra innings. Who's to say we wouldn't have won it then and there?

    • @710cashmoney
      @710cashmoney Před 4 lety +7

      No matter what happened...as a sox fan, AJ is a smart player. He’s the type that you love to have on your team but just gets under your skin as an opponent. I miss the small ball Sox. Here’s to baseball returning after Coronavirus 🙌

    • @superadam2112
      @superadam2112 Před 4 lety

      @@aggressiveattitudeera887 No doubt about that. But having played baseball for almost my entire life, I understand that baseball is one massive RNG or Random Number Generator. Video game speak for uncontrollable factors that could affect outcomes.

  • @heyceejay12
    @heyceejay12 Před 3 lety +2

    The 12 year old in me is still hurting

    • @jch8376
      @jch8376 Před 2 lety

      34 year old me is still hurting.

  • @FavreianVengeance
    @FavreianVengeance Před 3 měsíci

    I don't think most people understand how horrendous this call was. Momentum was on the Angels side and they were likely going to win this game and take a 2-0 stranglehold on the series. They were never the same team after they returned to Anaheim and lost the series 4-1.

  • @jorgejohnson451
    @jorgejohnson451 Před 5 dny

    Good teams overcome bad calls like this. Better teams take advantage.

  • @hurricanedij3971
    @hurricanedij3971 Před 3 měsíci

    Almost feels as though 2005 was the last time these two teams were relevant...

  • @tomemeigh5338
    @tomemeigh5338 Před rokem +1

    Just one more example of the thing that's the MOJOR issue with MLB: The umpires have to make the game about them, and not the players.
    Like the announcers said: The catcher's reaction should say it all.
    But even if that were not enough, use some common sense here. If the ball HAD hit the dirt, there would have been a dust cloud - especially at the speed a pitched baseball travels.

  • @dominict1455
    @dominict1455 Před 8 měsíci

    The Score AM 670 brought me here.

  • @blimpton285
    @blimpton285 Před 9 lety +9

    Even if the ball had bounced, the umpire called the batter out. How can the umpire undo his out call when the batter would have been out easily had he not made that call?

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 4 lety +2

      He is out. He can still reach base on wild pitch or as you saw in the dirt even with strike 3 out called.

  • @mrbadexample519
    @mrbadexample519 Před 4 lety +3

    If I ever see AJP in an alley and I'm driving an unmarked, unlicensed car..............no bitterness here

  • @bardorodriguez1654
    @bardorodriguez1654 Před rokem +13

    This is the moment that momentum changed for this series. I believe if the Angels get this 3rd out the Angels win the game and the series. But WE WILL NEVER KNOW

    • @lilgiltrill
      @lilgiltrill Před 9 měsíci

      lol

    • @TheHaloRed
      @TheHaloRed Před 7 měsíci

      @@lilgiltrill What's so "lol" about it? It's true, the Angels had momentum. They just beat the Yankees in the ALDS, and won Game 1 against the Sox, and was leading in this game. Looks like you don't know the game, do you? Didn't think so.

    • @thechild7355
      @thechild7355 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@TheHaloRedThe Angels were still going to lose those 3 games at home. Excuses

  • @DisAccountizaMiracle
    @DisAccountizaMiracle Před 6 lety +2

    Maybe I need to check the rule book again but I thought when the there is a drop 3rd the Home plate umpire doesn't give the punch out signal? Because he does in this clip.

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 4 lety

      Incorrect. The strike out is called but he reaches on the error/wild pitch/in the dirt. I can name 500 reasons this is in the book.

    • @dolphinsneu
      @dolphinsneu Před 4 lety

      The umpire usually says no catch

  • @angelsfancrc1
    @angelsfancrc1 Před 9 lety +9

    I'm a huge Angels fan (hence my name), but thats Josh Paul's fault. He needs to either throw to first or tag Pierzynski out. I'm not blaming Eddings on that at all. Also, did anyone else notice how young Scioscia looks? Also, I love the fact that they were talking about the need for instant replay, which is still debated today.

    • @djson1
      @djson1 Před 9 lety +4

      angelsfancrc1 : It's totally the ump's fault, because he was influenced by AJ's desperate move to convince him that it hit the dirt. That's a d-bag ump.

    • @seankiesling2054
      @seankiesling2054 Před 3 lety +3

      How could you ever blame the catcher here? Why would he ever feel the need to tag A.J. if he made a clean catch? Lol and A.J looked and waited till Paul threw the ball back to take off running SO he couldn't tag or throw him...cmon man lol

    • @mingzhong5481
      @mingzhong5481 Před rokem

      @@seankiesling2054 Catchers may just throw or tag to play it safe. From the replay, I am not sure whether the ball actually hit the dirt or now, but close enough to be uncomfortable.

  • @alanhess9306
    @alanhess9306 Před 6 lety +1

    The HP umpire should have raised his fist (which he did) to indicate a strike. If he thought the ball hit the ground he should have given a safe signal to indicate the batter was not out. I did not see a safe call so it appears he thought it was caught. How did it happen that it was decided the pitch was uncaught? Total fail by the umpires.

  • @thatcrazywolf
    @thatcrazywolf Před 5 lety +1

    I guess catchers should just tag on the third strike for every batter

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 4 lety

      Baseball IQ 101 . Every player knows it is from the umpires eyes. It was questionable from the side view. Without telephoto lens 100 percent not able to see a 95 mph fastball that close. Catcher KNOWS to tag.

  • @gsierra13es
    @gsierra13es Před 6 lety +2

    If there was only instant replay

  • @westoaklandtee
    @westoaklandtee Před 8 lety +12

    All Josh Paul had to do was either tag the runner or throw the first.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 8 lety

      +Troy Reed Yes but he assumed (which i think he did) he caught the ball cleanly thus no tag was needed.

    • @num1huskerfan1
      @num1huskerfan1 Před 8 lety +9

      Buuuut he caught it cleanly. Never touched the ground

    • @TommyCage0736
      @TommyCage0736 Před 8 lety

      lol no way jose

    • @click789101112
      @click789101112 Před 7 lety +6

      What good catcher DOESN'T throw to first or at least tag the batter on a ball that's as low as this one? Kind of eliminates the ambiguity in a situation like this, now doesn't it. As a catcher himself, AJ spotted the mental lapse on the part of Josh Paul and took advantage of it.

  • @r0cky_2010
    @r0cky_2010 Před 3 měsíci

    dez caught it.

  • @maxbernstein5678
    @maxbernstein5678 Před 3 lety +1

    Smart move even though it was a catch

  • @ruggedshark5921
    @ruggedshark5921 Před měsícem

    So many bad calls before Instant Replay - torch the record books before IR

  • @griffgarris0n
    @griffgarris0n Před 5 lety +7

    Josh Paul knew he should have atleast tagged him though. Look at how when Paul catches it he almost goes to tag him anyway.

  • @andrewcrawford8019
    @andrewcrawford8019 Před 6 lety +8

    That was garbage that AJ swung at

    • @jakelm4256
      @jakelm4256 Před 3 lety

      And? You obviously aren't familiar with the uncaught third strike rule.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před 2 lety +1

    This is not so much proof of the need for replay but proof of the need for all umpire gestures to be uniform.

    • @alexrobertsfcim
      @alexrobertsfcim Před rokem

      There is a gesture for dropped strike 3's now. That wasn't the case in 2005.

  • @christopherjohnson1873
    @christopherjohnson1873 Před 10 lety +6

    Wow, this is some real BS.

  • @aaronscarpa7469
    @aaronscarpa7469 Před rokem

    Scioscia should’ve tripped Pierzynski for that stunt when he passed in front of him while being pinch run for. Would’ve served that punk right.

  • @Cooldudelogan
    @Cooldudelogan Před 5 lety +3

    14 years later and this call still bothers me.

  • @troyreed2110
    @troyreed2110 Před 9 lety +13

    All Josh Paul had to do was tag AJ. All of this would have been alleviated

  • @rockabillylaker
    @rockabillylaker Před 9 lety +11

    Instant replay could have changed the game. At 5 seconds, the ump calls him out. He makes the signal. I remember the post game show when they interviewed him. He kept stuttering.

    • @harrisoncramer
      @harrisoncramer Před 9 lety +1

      rockabillylaker Yes but he also motioned to first, meaning that it was a strikeout but also a dropped third strike.

    • @alexh8613
      @alexh8613 Před 9 lety +3

      Harrison Cramer Yes but then he makes the fist indicating that the ball was caught or the catcher tagged the runner. He shouldn't have made the fist if he thought the ball hit the ground.

  • @AnimatedIdiotGuide
    @AnimatedIdiotGuide Před 10 lety +45

    Smart by A.J. Pretty sure nobody else in the ballpark thought that would happen. That's a combination of smarts by A.J., incompetence by the umpires, and whining by the Angels.

    • @AnimatedIdiotGuide
      @AnimatedIdiotGuide Před 10 lety +2

      Well what did you expect? The ump to say "Oops I screwed up the call is changed." Wasn't gonna happen. This was before replay even became a topic. The call was gonna stand no matter what.

    • @Tmillea
      @Tmillea Před 10 lety

      No the umps the year before

    • @richig761
      @richig761 Před 10 lety +4

      Jeffrey Loll Are you kidding me? The ball clearly short hops the glove. You must be an Angels fan. Apart or all of the ball CLEARLY gets the ground. Paul ran into the dugout immediately regardless of what the home plate umpire did, so it's rather irrelevant. You always tag the runner on anything close as a catcher. 100% on Paul. Ball clearly hits the ground on the slow motion replay. End of story. White Sox pounded the Angels the next three anyway.

    • @PaulGilbertrulezzz
      @PaulGilbertrulezzz Před 10 lety +6

      Are you fucking stupid? Shows how much of a douchebag AJ is. Whining? What the fuck do you expect? It was the third out and they knew it. So they were just supposed to let them take away the 3rd out in a crucial game? Dumbass

    • @PaulGilbertrulezzz
      @PaulGilbertrulezzz Před 10 lety +7

      And to the idiot saying the ball clearly hit the ground..you need to go get your eyes checked because they clearly don't fucking work.

  • @Gforcebond
    @Gforcebond Před 3 lety +1

    He stole 1st. :p

  • @bornyesterday8730
    @bornyesterday8730 Před 2 lety

    I wish Pierzynski could have worked out in Boston.

    • @hmhm856
      @hmhm856 Před 2 lety

      He did come in a bit overweight. He should have def worked out

  • @staringatthesun861
    @staringatthesun861 Před 7 měsíci

    The Angels got f***ed here. That said, I was happy to see the White Sox have that run. I hope they find success again.....that it's not another 88-year drought.

  • @FavreianVengeance
    @FavreianVengeance Před 3 měsíci +4

    MLB didn't post this until 9 years after the fact. They know how huge this missed call was.

  • @joesakic91
    @joesakic91 Před 9 lety +8

    Josh Paul was the one who made the bonehead play. He should've tagged A.J. Pierzynski out or throw it to first base to make sure it was a strikeout, but he didn't.

    • @HampshireElite5
      @HampshireElite5 Před 9 lety +3

      That's true, as a catcher if its close you should tag the batter just in case

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 9 lety +1

      Victory Arceus It looked like Josh Paul was about to, but instead, he scooped it up, rolled the ball back to the mound and ran into the dugout not realizing that A.J. Pierzynski wasn't tagged out or Paul threw the ball to first base to complete the strikeout.

    • @ilovebrandnewcarpets
      @ilovebrandnewcarpets Před 9 lety

      +joesakic91 Blue called him out, that should be the end of the story. However, tag him, and then there's no question.

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 9 lety

      ilovebrandnewcarpets Either tag A.J. Pierzynski or throw it to first base to complete the strikeout and Josh Paul didn't do that.
      That snowballed for the Angels.

    • @aggressiveattitudeera887
      @aggressiveattitudeera887 Před 8 lety

      +joesakic91 About time somebody brought that up. If Paul just throws the ball to 1st, none of this matters.

  • @dariog36th
    @dariog36th Před 5 lety +1

    All you complaining about a bad call and that it cost the Angel's a trip to the ws always fail to mention that the series went back to LA and the Sox starters pitched three straight complete games after this and dominated the angels. The better team won the series. And the championship.

    • @jch8376
      @jch8376 Před 2 lety

      It didn't cost a trip to the ws , because obviously more games to play , but it killed out momentum. Just don't like to see games influenced by bad decisions. I say decisions because the ump called him out , then changed his mind.

  • @GetBenched2010
    @GetBenched2010 Před 3 lety +8

    Greatest moment in White Sox history.

    • @EternaIWait
      @EternaIWait Před 2 lety +2

      This still haunts me as an Angels fan.

  •  Před 6 lety +3

    And well... Ozzie Guillén remains the only World Series-winning Latino manager. THE ONLY ONE.

    • @charleseggebrecht6754
      @charleseggebrecht6754 Před 5 lety +1

      Ernesto González Alex Cora??

    • @JeremyIsTheBoss
      @JeremyIsTheBoss Před 4 lety +1

      He probably wrote this before the Red Sox won the world series.

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 4 lety

      I am a huge Sox fan. That said Ozzie was made to behave that year. He was on best behavior. Next year..wow. What a crazy guy. Or as in the movie...You are a funny guy. Sox were tired of his shat. Exit stage left.

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 Před 10 lety +12

    Bad call yes? Great job by Douchezynski? Absolutely. Better team won the series Halo fans...

    • @jbsmg
      @jbsmg Před 5 lety

      Stay classy.

  • @conbitches
    @conbitches Před rokem

    Horrible call but it probably wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the series.

  • @soxluv1717
    @soxluv1717 Před 6 lety +1

    ... and since this day catchers have had to throw to 1st to record the strikeout when the batter swing's at strike 3 in the dirt.

  • @jimmyjames7868
    @jimmyjames7868 Před 6 lety

    Yep! this one cost them the game, the momentum, and a trip to the World Series.... naturally, I dreaded it when he was an announcer in the Red Sox Series

    • @trevar1317
      @trevar1317 Před 5 lety

      How did this 100% cost them the world series? They could have lost the game in extras, and the Sox showed dominance in the next 3 games. This was a momentum shifter, but the game could've gone either way in extra innings

  • @jgirl400
    @jgirl400 Před 10 lety +12

    Definitely one of my favorite white sox moments of all time

  • @fuccckckkkkckkck
    @fuccckckkkkckkck Před 8 lety +16

    We still boo him to this day lol

    • @JAYZIGGY5
      @JAYZIGGY5 Před 4 lety

      And he LOVED That! Just fueling his fire

  • @Jordan-cm5tz
    @Jordan-cm5tz Před 2 měsíci

    Will forever hate this man.

  • @brettfriedman587
    @brettfriedman587 Před 4 lety +1

    The Angels really should have protested this game. I can't imagine the umpire's excuse for signaling out and then letting Pierzynski go to first.

    • @markperry2827
      @markperry2827 Před 4 lety

      He was out. He reached on error type situation per the rule.

  • @claytonhinkle5468
    @claytonhinkle5468 Před 6 lety +4

    This was absolutely the correct call. If you watch it repeatedly, you will see that it made a small hop off the ground (bop bop) just at the end, up into the catcher's glove. Interestingly if you play the video backward, it is much easier to detect visually.

    • @Setzer777
      @Setzer777 Před 3 lety

      You're hallucinating. Lay off the drugs. But also not surprising coming from a White Sox fan.

    • @claytonhinkle5468
      @claytonhinkle5468 Před 3 lety

      @@Setzer777 Nope not on drugs. Watch the slow mo at :40 seconds at .25 playback. It clearly hits the ground and bounces off the ground up into his glove. The fact the it bounces up can not be disputed. You could argue that his glove was under the ball and it was bouncing off of that and then up but in watching the amount of webbing in his glove as he goes to catch the ball, I think the is unlikely.

    • @justrelax1539
      @justrelax1539 Před rokem

      I’m a Braves fan, and watching this, it looks like the ball DID hit the ground

  • @etchedinstone7562
    @etchedinstone7562 Před 7 lety +5

    Critics of the umpires in this series can scream and cry all they want. But the fact remains that the Angels lost three more games afterward and if this call had been right, all that would have happened is that the game would have been tied going into extra innings. This call did not cost the Angels the ALCS.

  • @djson1
    @djson1 Před 9 lety

    Even Joe Garagiola (a catcher himself) watches the replay and makes the commentary that that's a third strike as the catcher caught the ball! Listen to the commentator's (sounds like Joe G again) statement at 2:11...he is saying the same after watching the slow mo.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt Před 9 lety

      That's not Joe Garagiola… that's Lou Piniella

    • @markwicker2664
      @markwicker2664 Před 6 lety +1

      It's Tim McCarver, who was the starting catcher in 1,300 MLB games.

  • @kryg
    @kryg Před 6 lety +2

    200iq play

  • @that1kidjr
    @that1kidjr Před 3 lety

    robbed.

  • @donovansdenofgames4573
    @donovansdenofgames4573 Před 3 měsíci

    White Sox clearly cheated to win this game

  • @PhilRockwell
    @PhilRockwell Před 8 lety +2

    Go A.J. go go haha Whitesox baby Whitesox!

  • @hmhm856
    @hmhm856 Před rokem +2

    Greatest postseason moment for the WSOX in their history

  • @Burg_38
    @Burg_38 Před rokem +2

    Has to be the worst call in the history of Major League ball

  • @joedebaun4547
    @joedebaun4547 Před 9 lety +8

    One of the dumbest calls in history.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 9 lety +3

      It wasnt that dumb, it was a clean catch, but i could see how umpire could make a mistake since the ball was so close to touching the ground.

  • @jbsmg
    @jbsmg Před 5 lety +1

    This is why I hate umpires. What a dick move. He clearly made the out call through motion. Then, he had the audacity to say he didn't make the call. If I was that bad at my job, I'd be fired.

  • @lucaskrystozek9319
    @lucaskrystozek9319 Před 9 lety +4

    A.J Pierzynski hit the ball and it was foul but, he was not tagged out from the catcher Josh Paul. So he was safe. And I have a movie about when that happened and I heard the ball and also I have a book about when that happened. And I'm also a White Sox fan.

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Před 9 lety +4

      If you hit a ball foul, the at bat continues.

    • @AllProVideo
      @AllProVideo Před 9 lety

      gameaddict51 He didn't a foul ball, he struck out

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Před 9 lety

      Sal Atteo And where did I deny that fact? SoxRule2015 was saying he hit the ball foul. But wasn't tagged by the catcher. So he's assuming hitting the ball foul (in some way besides a bunt) can also strike you out. He didn't hit it foul. But if he did, the at bat would have continued.

    • @lucaskrystozek9319
      @lucaskrystozek9319 Před 9 lety

      When the catcher dropped the ball and the batter swung like A.J Pierzynsky did. And he heard the ball hit on strike 3 so he ran.

    • @lucaskrystozek9319
      @lucaskrystozek9319 Před 9 lety

      It's called dropped 3rd strike

  • @oldhamegg
    @oldhamegg Před 9 lety +12

    A.J. Pierzynski is my fucking hero. This play to me is the reason that the White Sox won the world series. It just broke the Angles in two.

    • @cubswin7740
      @cubswin7740 Před 9 lety +4

      Oldstuff Man Angles? Well, I guess you could say they were playing in 60 degree weather.

    • @Film_Fan24
      @Film_Fan24 Před 9 lety +1

      Oldstuff Man Not an Angels fan, but fuck you. That was a bad call and you know it. If it weren't for that, you guys wouldn't have won the series let alone the World Series.

    • @Film_Fan24
      @Film_Fan24 Před 9 lety +1

      Oldstuff Man That's not what you're implying by calling Pierzynski your "hero."

    • @oldhamegg
      @oldhamegg Před 9 lety

      that's exactly what I'm implying.. or are you stupid? superherofan24

    • @HLGCeltic24
      @HLGCeltic24 Před 9 lety +1

      Oldstuff Man Lets not get crazy with the "Sox wouldn't have won that series" assumption. The Sox dominated that entire postseason, hence losing only the one game. Even here it was still tied 1-1. Was it a bad call? Fuck yeah it was. Do I think it determined the outcome of the game? In a way, yes, because the Angels were probably super pissed which is why Crede drove him in. But as a professional team you have to put it behind you, especially in the playoffs. Do I think it affected in the slightest the outcome of the series? Absolutely the fuck not. Sox would have won that series regardless.

  • @ryanclune3649
    @ryanclune3649 Před 18 dny

    Let's go White Sox!

  • @SAYBOW69
    @SAYBOW69 Před 2 lety

    Im a Detroiter and like most in AL Central know what clown he is. Ball did NOT hurt dirt. Would at least think get the title of this clip by now. Lol. He could have reached second if was so sure also.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 Před 2 lety

    Did he drop it though?

    • @hmhm856
      @hmhm856 Před rokem

      From all the replays ive seen, if I had to make the call, the ball did not touch the ground

  • @bkearn55
    @bkearn55 Před 10 lety +5

    it was a good call. if they showed the zoomed in view like they did after the game you can see it barely it the ground

    • @Tmillea
      @Tmillea Před 10 lety

      Yeah it hit the ground but aj still did swing at it. La got fucked

    • @dolphinsneu
      @dolphinsneu Před 10 lety

      Yes, but the ump needed make it clear what the call was.

    • @bkearn55
      @bkearn55 Před 9 lety

      it doesn't matter if he swung, the ball hit the ground

  • @fuccckckkkkckkck
    @fuccckckkkkckkck Před 10 lety +2

    It must be horrible having to ne the umpire to figure you made a huge dumbass call, and trying to convince the manager.

  • @timknottsfun
    @timknottsfun Před 5 lety

    AJ is a punk

  • @Gtasplayer
    @Gtasplayer Před 2 lety +2

    It touched the ground but it was hard to see even with the cameras. Can’t blame Aj for trying, can’t blame the angels for thinking it was caught, and can’t blame the umpires for being fooled by an almost great pitch

  • @jaya1000
    @jaya1000 Před rokem

    Why didnt josh paul simply tag aj pierzynski? WHY?!?!?😭

  • @danielaguirre3435
    @danielaguirre3435 Před 9 lety +1

    That was such be .. Angels got screwed

    • @trevar1317
      @trevar1317 Před 5 lety +1

      Good thing they bounced back and won the game in extras lol

    • @billycausgrove9657
      @billycausgrove9657 Před 4 lety

      @@trevar1317 No they did not, the White Sox won the game in the 9th Inning and won the next 3 games to go to the World Series.

    • @trevar1317
      @trevar1317 Před 4 lety

      @@billycausgrove9657 yeah ik I was just making a joke. I was trying to make the point that the Angels still had plenty of chances to win

    • @dondebruin9378
      @dondebruin9378 Před 4 lety

      Billy Causgrove woosh

  • @snowboarddude77s
    @snowboarddude77s Před 2 lety

    Aj cheating at his finest

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 2 lety +1

      Um, that's not cheating from AJ Pierzynski. That's just great heads up baserunning. Angels catcher Josh Paul should've just tagged him out or throw the ball to first to complete the strikeout, but he didn't.

    • @snowboarddude77s
      @snowboarddude77s Před 2 lety

      @@joesakic91 why would the the Angels catcher tag him when it was clear as day that it didn’t hit the ground?

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 2 lety +1

      @@snowboarddude77s For good measure and just in case the home plate umpire didn't officially call a strikeout.
      Go look it up in the official MLB rule book.

  • @betelhemh3498
    @betelhemh3498 Před 5 lety

    typical A.J. Pierzynski driving people crazy! LOL!

  • @yoboydanny6218
    @yoboydanny6218 Před 10 lety +17

    Angels go all the way if It wasn't for the crap umpiring

    • @spire1214
      @spire1214 Před 9 lety +30

      Yes, because all 23 runs scored by the White Sox were a result of bad umpiring. We beat Socia and the Angels' asses in 05

    • @eddiezwickl8604
      @eddiezwickl8604 Před 7 lety +3

      tits your 05 season is a fucking fluke. Baseball is heavily dictated by momentum, and if that call is made correctly, we take that game, and I highly doubt the rest of the games go the same way they did. Your ass team got hot that year alone off a gift call, whereas the angels were one of the best teams of the 2000's and might've taken it all that year instead of constantly running into and falling to juggernaut Yankee/redsox teams the following years.

    • @JC_BayBay
      @JC_BayBay Před 7 lety +11

      Eddie Zwickl you're a fucking idiot

    • @eddiezwickl8604
      @eddiezwickl8604 Před 7 lety

      It's true 😁

    • @carloslugo4526
      @carloslugo4526 Před 6 lety +1

      +Eddie Zwickl you act as if aj was the tying run. the game was tied genius and who knows who would have won in extra innings.

  • @g00gleminus96
    @g00gleminus96 Před 6 lety

    Dumb call.

  • @douglassher1710
    @douglassher1710 Před 4 lety

    There have been many baseball highlight reels, but if they ever make a baseball lowlight reel (i.e. the sport's crappiest moments) this call belongs near the top of it.

  • @christianhanson7009
    @christianhanson7009 Před 7 lety +1

    I'm still triggered

  • @juliuscarrigg3424
    @juliuscarrigg3424 Před 3 lety

    Ever since this happened the Sox have only made it to the playoffs twice in 2008 and 2020 ....so apparently they need umps to help them win...it's not like they don't need the help

    • @damiancastillo8184
      @damiancastillo8184 Před 3 lety +2

      The Sox only lost 1 game in the 05 playoffs... your argument is BS. My White Sox will be in the World Series again very soon. Stay tuned pal 😂

    • @juliuscarrigg3424
      @juliuscarrigg3424 Před rokem

      ​@@damiancastillo8184still waiting lmao

  • @euginate1344
    @euginate1344 Před 7 lety +6

    it hit the ground

    • @euginate1344
      @euginate1344 Před 7 lety

      Hallking78 look at the side angle

    • @atatkfighter
      @atatkfighter Před 7 lety +7

      Tough call and I have to agree, I never saw it hit the ground either.

    • @lin4cba
      @lin4cba Před 7 lety +4

      From every single angle shown here, I think the ball didn't hit the ground.

    • @ict113090
      @ict113090 Před 6 lety

      He still swung....

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Před 4 lety

      @Hallking78 0:56

  • @imcoop
    @imcoop Před 9 lety

    Worst call in MLB history-this call and missed others were the other reasons why the White Sox won this series-Doug Eddings should have been fired after this blown call

    • @imcoop
      @imcoop Před 9 lety

      ***** "As Sox fan know"-way to use proper English-it wasn't just this call but there were otters in the series as well that gave the Sox 4 outs in an inning

    • @click789101112
      @click789101112 Před 7 lety +1

      Such as...... ?

    • @imcoop
      @imcoop Před 7 lety +1

      Game 3-Posednik is picked off at first, would have been out number three, he is called safe, Sox get runs, Game 4-AJ interferes with the catcher while he is at bat, Sox player is allowed to steal second, Game 5-interference is called on Angels for the exact same thing AJ did game 4-each time giving the Sox an advantage-thank goodness for them there was no replay back then

    • @click789101112
      @click789101112 Před 7 lety +1

      All these bad calls are the reason the Angels batted, what, .100 in the series? Or .150? Embarassing.

    • @samborgensjr6456
      @samborgensjr6456 Před 2 lety

      Worst call in MLB history? Where were you on June 2nd, 2010?

  • @RojoCube
    @RojoCube Před 4 lety

    AJ also left the batter box. That also would mean he's out. Astros stole signs in 2017. White Sox stole the world series from the Angels and Astros(who weren't going to win either way)

    • @damiancastillo8184
      @damiancastillo8184 Před 3 lety

      Ok... Now say it without crying! The Sox lost only 1 game in the 05 playoffs... try again buddy! GO SOX!!!

    • @RojoCube
      @RojoCube Před 3 lety

      @@damiancastillo8184
      Not crying. Cheating is cheating. They get their ring. Cubs got theirs. 11 years later. Even if the white sox win in the next 6 years. They still won't be the #1 team in Chicago. They'll be still below the wnba team. 🤣

    • @RojoCube
      @RojoCube Před 2 lety

      @@mizztery2994
      The HP umpire literally but his right up. That would mean he was out .game over.

    • @RojoCube
      @RojoCube Před 2 lety

      @@mizztery2994
      He was out regardless of leaving the box. He was called out. End of story. I get you're either still living on a 2005 WS win. Or you weren't born yet and watched highlights. I'll go with the latter