@@luke.k5768what skill? ive been spamming the shit outta her and already got to emerald on my second account, her skill floor isn't overly high...its just shes more overloaded then every other champ in the entire game so she will almost always win vs ppl of equal or lesser skill simply because she stat checks most of them through Botrk procs...irelia is the main character of league rn essentially
@@mirramig fym whats the point this isnt valorant. league isnt a micro oriented game. its a strategy game that leaned to more micro mechanics compared to dota. but champions that can abuse the balance of the game the closer you get the the upper limit of how well u can play that champ is silly.
@@gangsterman5590So a champion that requires you to keep up passive stacks amidst all kinds of chaos while also depending on hitting your skill shots should be less rewarding than a Garen just pressing 3 buttons to 100-0 someone?
@@gangsterman5590 you are either low elo, you play a brainless champ or the combination of both. Most people dont want ro play garen,ivern,annie every single game, theres a reason why riot doesnt release incredibly easy champs.
irelia isnt broken... tbf high elo plays limits and they will contest and try but gragas lvl 4 here and the fact they stayed on that play after liss was 100 hp or less is a big mistake by them. As well as a missing bubble by nami.Very well executed by the irelia tho.
@@BluEclipse94 Theres people on mages too with insane winrates. Your arguments are actually nonsense xD Your so wrong people do this with mages as well! Theres people making 80+% winrate for probably every single mid champ in the game. The secret is beeing cracked. Look at this guys plays, hardly u could pull this off heh? However, theres an advantage in playing snowball heavy champs specially in low elo but in high elo it can also be a burden as its much harder to pull off and utility champs etc have more value bc u actually have teams to play around etc . Irelia is also very hard to play specially against players that know how irelia works. U low elos are so delusional with your talks its crazy. at least hit like d2 + THEN you will have a BASIC understanding of this game. And this is not coping. The first time I hit mid diamond I realized how bad I truely am and how much there is a gap to masters and challenger. At diamond elo you really just get down the basic concepts. You can be a total bafoon mechanical etc if u play like BASIC macro u will still get diamond. I wish ppl would first get high elo, then talk, bc only then they have background to back up their ego and thoughts. And I assure your minds will shift 360 on that journey!
@@Rivencrck Aw here goes butthurt yone abuser, I never saw a mage with insane winrate, even now when jungle mage is considered broken it has max 60% wr on best players. While yone,yasuo players with lethal tempo were pumping around 90% wr in servers like China, Korea and EUW. Oh please elo this elo that, I'm rank 1 in wow arenas for years, and immortal in dota, im newer in league but I got skills and game sense, there's no need for my mind to ''shift''. If u think champs like Syndra can go 90% wr u are delusional, only 1v9 champs like yone,yasuo,irelia and simial; can reach that lvl. Try maining a mage and I assure your mind will shift 360 on that journey!
Maybe he started Diamond/GM last season, HIDDEN mmr help you get 35+ every win and 11- in lost. So if you lose alot then you will get -20 and +22 most of the time. so getting a lost streak would make your account be -30 and +14 at most.
You can Spawn emerald 1 max😅 every 1500lp chall Spawn emerald 1 like masters but the master Will do +70 on the first win when the 1500lp challenger Will get a solid +90 or even the 100 lp
It makes sense, 90% WR means even if he's getting +18/-25 that's +685 over 50 games. The rates were probably better than that since he presumably got initially placed into emerald and was almost immediately playing masters+ lobbies with better LP gains.
but what the fuck is irelia passive + lvl lead + prolly item lead + all building full dmg!!!! cant be balanced if a mage builds full damage and still gets oneshot riiitoo????
conqueror + vamp sceptre + redbuff + they are all in an automatic disadvantage if irelia's in melee range since, they are all ranged(in exception of gragas, but he's treated like a mage both ways.) + irelia passive is one of the strongest in the game specifically earlier on SPECIFICALLY with conqueror stacked. gragas level 4 nami level 4 lissandra level 5 and they missed mostly every ability except nami w and lissandra q. i can say im usually a bit biased as an irelia main but holy shit never seen someone as bronze as you starting an aurgement. also one protip look at the champions weaknesses before looking at its strengths because people like you would say kayle is easy and broken
@@pureaut1sm kayle is the biggest dogshit in the game, only matched by quinn. you can yap all you want lol, the irelia's abilities and movement are phenomenal, but the auto attack damage is nothing but stupid. You can keep attacking me, you low elo rat, but i'll stick to my premise that her auto damage is stupid
On one hand, that play was incredibly smooth. On the other, I don’t think any champion should be allowed to have that many dashes in a single fight for any reason.
@@doffy5394lmao okay wise guy, how about this: let’s compare and contrast how many matchups both of those champs win/lose, & see the ratio. How many 1v1’s do you think Irelia with current patch 1st item BoRK win against the entire roster vs Vel’koz with idk first item Luden’s Companion? Hm? How about even funnier give velkoz magic pen boots & to even it out give irelia tabis or even attack spd boots. Guarantee you run that shi in a simulation surprise NOT surprised Irelia bodies half the cast meanwhile you need work exponentially harder on Vel’koz. The game is not balanced rn & hasn’t been for a while, it needs to be addressed & changed for the game to get healthier.
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato ofc irelia will most likely win if she can REACH you because she is a duelist, if she couldnt win 1v1 vs most mages given that they have the same gold, what would be the point of the champion? The problem isnt irelia the problem is botrk, she has one of the best powerspikes after purchasing this item, the items passive and stats needs to be readjusted a little.
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato also if you really believe that irelia is turbo broken, you should in all seriousness play her few games vs players of your own elo
I'm baffled at the Lol community. Can't believe they actually think it's just the champs he plays. If you think playing X champion is free ELO, just go and play it. But you won't, because it's easier to just throw shit at people and having that narrative in your head than actually testing it out and be proven wrong because 1-the champ takes actual skill and 2-it doesn't matter what champ you play if your decision making is trash
I used to think that when I was new but nowadays I'm a jack of all trades so I understand what is needed to play those characters, although not the most skill required for those two champs but the plays that were shown in this video speaks volumes of how good he is. Plus Irelia and Yone players are majorly bad at the game unless you meet a few ones that are good
I wouldn't even put her in the assassin category she's definitely a bruiser skirmisher she just can move around a bit more and does alot of built in on hit dmg but her itemization has always been bruiser items excluding Bork bc they compliment her kit very well
@@nathanheath4497 idk man. Not many have enough burst to kill squishies in 1 combo and irelia is able to she can even burst a health stacker like Mundo early on
what do you mean she's an assassin that ALSO has consistent AA dmg? her AA's are her primary damage output. without them she can't do shit. neither Q nor R does anything without AA followup
@@PanderStar E stun - Q - AA - R -- AA - Q -- AA - if enemy walks into blades -- Q -- AA dead. Sure she weaves AAs into her combo but she can literally burst fucking mundo from 100-0 at lvl 6 with just a vamp sceptre and you mean to tell me that's only from AA? Oh btw Q gets reset if she hits E or R on a target so she can free stack to 4 from one target and then run them down with AAs from 200 range.
If he is climbing at rekord breaking speeds then surely we can acknowledge his skill AND the brokeness of the champs at the same time right?? I mean he is competing with every broken pick in roughly 10 seasons of lol after all
I understand that he played well in that clip but the fact his champ was able to do that is ridiculous. Honestly no many other champs that are viewed as really strong are able to do that.
okay but that doesnt mean that the champs he is playing arent good, its the combination of both, he couldnt do the same on yuumi lets say, no matter how good he is, the champ you play still matters a lot and there are stronger and weaker champions no doubt. and some are just better than others for solo queue, that is a fact, solo queue is not competetive, its 2 completely different games.
Yeah but time and time again these people can do this on most any champion ofc you can't on yuumi that's not what she's made for but a challenger yuumi can still do insane things that most others cant
yes people in chalenger purposely play the worst champion in the game to prove they are better. what are you smoking man, ofcourse they play the better champs.
@@R1Looter Ofc they do Its how it works youd have to be down right dumb to not to take advantage of it yet you still see people trying to abuse the same champs who are still bronze just saying :^ champ means nothing without the proper player to use them
@@200yearsofcollectiveexperi5 some people get riot accounts with absurd mmr and get chall really quick so its just a matter of having a short winstreak
@@mireauappel4678 ye this is the difference, the silver yasuo top will say "but i won lane" while he is at 200cs at 37m and 3 lvls down cuz he roamed half the map for like 3kills total While the same person will say "oh this feeding Irelia got carried" while the climber will be 350cs at 32 with 4towers taken and 2 lvl lead xD Doesn't mean sht if he is then 1/6/0 lol
"It's his buttons that led him there, not the champion", shows a clip of one of the most overtuned champs doing the most bs thing no other champ in the entire game could possibly do LOL.
I haven’t kept in touch with league but lider has always been the dark horse of soloq. This man doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. He’s crazy on whatever champion he plays
Yeah except the champs he's using have near unlimited mobility, damage, and CC... so... it is the Champs. Good decision making, but it's also the champs.
I've been noticing that for some reason skill and luck go hand in hand in this game. As impressive as that might have been, discounting the fact that the kit did most of the heavy lifting, if you say he calculated the exact amount of mana, health and healing needed for this, you are kidding yourself.
He's good no doubt, but everyone knows there are a set number of champions that have the edge over all the others. You won't be seeing anyone with this winrate > chall playing sivir alistar. It is what it is.
@@SweatIRL Been ending every season between 200 and 800LP since S5, never seen an alistar with 90% wr(Or that I noticed). Seen a lot of janna's, though.
@@NOname-gb6en That's not the point ? I mean you can train every champs you want you'll never be able to DESTROY 3 people like that just because you play good. I presume than the 3 guys who get outplayed were good but they just CAN'T outplay that and that's NOT fair.
@@matoupetou You have no idea what you are talking about. You can outplay 1v3 on almost every champion if you are mechanical enough. Few examples: Gosu on Vayne, Dante on Heca, Irelia in this video e.t.c.
Obviously he'd still be challenger but I wonder what his win rate would be without those 2 champs. Love, a fill tournament player who has 3 picks per role.
I'm sure he's pretty good, but still these are the most overtuned and disgusting champions in the game. You can be 0/6/0 and just when you buy a bork you 1v1 anyone
Comments: People complaining about the champ and cant accept that he is just inanely good on an high skill expression champ. Then just attacking each other scharacters i.e calling people bad. Instead of saying constructive stuff and ultimately admitting its him and not the champ, some champs can do some things and some champs can do other things. This is just high skill expression from the irrelia knowing thier limits and knowing extensively how the other champs work. Yeah he couldnt do this on other champs but that by no means makes a champ broken cause ultimately if they were they would be seen across pro play and eventually get nerfed. Accept this guy is just better.
I was so disappointed when i saw the champs he played but i knew it would be these kind of broken champs that can auto anyone to death and people think it's skilled. Id like to see him hit chall 60% winrate with yorick, but we all know the champs are not on the same level.
i fucking hate this mother fuckers who complain yes irelia and yone is broken so why wont they use it to reach challenger easily? oh shit they cant! plot twist because even if you use op champs you still need to be good its a fucking massive skill issue, although i do can understand its annoying when you fight an irelia or yone even more so when the player who use those champs are good on it
Clean play, but a level 6 skirmisher should definitely not be able to fight and then towerdive 3 champions (piloted by high-skill players), get a triple kill, and then survive, alone. Utter degeneracy.
To be fair, he played it perfectly. For that to work he had to hit his first e, then prepare the minions with w, dodge Gragas body slam, hit e on two targets and in general just not missclick once
@@ciriousjoker Oh yeah he absolutely played that magnificently, but my point still stands. No hate against you in particular, but your comment reminds me of the mindset some "high-skill" champion mains have about their champ, where they think they should be able to do whatever they want as long as they play well. I'm sure you know the type - Irelia, Yone, Kai'sa, K'sante, Riven, etc. players who will refuse point blank that there is anything wrong with their champion (not to say that any of those champs are OP, by the way, but they're definitely not designed perfectly) because they played the fight well. "Well yeah, I won a 1v2 against the 11/2 Darius and the 7/0 Ahri as a 1/4 Kai'sa, but I dodged Apprehend and Charm, so that's normal!"
@@Ceracio Yone and Asante are dumb, sure. Irelia, Kaisa and Riven are balanced though. Kaisa has really low range, Irelia actually needs to hit her spells and Riven also can't face roll her keyboard unless she's super broken. The 1v2 as Kaisa might be possible if she has some items. The point is that by dodging apprehend/charm you most likely also dodge their other abilities and as a high DPS adc you do have enough damage to chew through most hp bars if you can buy yourself enough time. Specifically for those champs, if Ahri doesn't hit her spells and Darius doesn't get in range they deal very little damage. Some champs just inherently have more playmaking potential and if the enemy champ has limited options against high mobility/outplay spells they should get punished for that
@@ciriousjoker Balanced, yes. I still think the design is stupid. What I'm getting at is that they feel terrible to play against (except non-OP Riven, as you mentioned) because they get to say "I don't care how fed/skilled you are, I played this fight well therefore I win, even when at a number and resource disadvantage". I get that some champions get playmaking potential in lieu of up front combat power, and that's normal, but in that case why do Yone, Irelia, Yasuo, Kai'sa, Fiora and such ALSO get to be statcheckers when they're ahead, or in Yone and K'sante's case, even when they're not ahead, but just not too far behind? Like, a fed Kai'sa can right-click, let go of their mouse and keyboard, and kill most other champions before dying 1v1, why does she get to do that AND win a 1v2 against fed opponents while being underfed as fuck? In card games, different colours/factions/classes/decks get to be good at EITHER getting ahead and pushing for a victory (earlygame/bully/statchecker), or stalling/surviving long enough to outvalue their opponents, and come back from disadvantageous situations (lategame/scaling/outplay). If one could do both, that would be the most toxic thing in the game (even if the deck itself weren't OP). Conceptual differences aside, I don't see why League would be different. There's a reason this kind of outplay champions are the most hated group in the game, and there's also a reason champions like Lee are nowhere near as hated, despite also being outplay champs. If Lee is behind or not absurdly ahead, he is JUST a playmaker. If Yone's behind, he can probably outduel your sidelaner, splitpush faster than them, win a 1v2 you throw at him, and solo non-Baron neutral objectives faster than an adc. I'm gonna stop rambling now. Have a nice day, and please understand I'm not having a go at you or anyone else, for that matter. I'm just (probably overly) passionnate about subjects I enjoy.
@@ciriousjokerto counter that, if any champ other than maybe 5 others play it perfectly there, best case scenario they at least die for the triple. Most of the conditionals you mentioned could be pulled off by any irelia one trick, and mentioning misclicking seems like a reach to put in there(it happens occasionally, but no one is getting Pat's on the back for not misclicking, except of, to excuse certain champions from criticism) Honestly there are plenty of champs that can 1 v 3 if ahead, but this guy had a single vamp scepter , so in my mind the only way that this fight should be winnable in a strategy game is if the enemy team griefs the fight, not counting missed skillshots because irelia has a 0 cd dash
@@kayobas6484 The ex LEC player probably had a Riot boosted mmr Acc anyways. No way a normal account can get to challenger having only 50 games that's riot doing. I've had virgin acc with 90% winrate from unraked to plat-emmerald with same 50 games and the LP gains just don't keep up with the winrate. Riot acc is just cheating broken. Unless he wasnt given a riot acc and his acc maybe already was chall snother season.
Yes, he's good, but he wouldn't get 90% WR challenger playing Heimer. Irelia and Yone are both busted champs and everyone knows it. Same thing with TF Blade. Spam Yone/Jax/Irelia every game and it helps you climb a lot faster
@@SweatIRL I personally think they're over-tuned but I don't play enough league anymore to know how S14 is. Then again, part of their problem is their kit (yone for example)
That's also tons of luck...the triumph lroccinproccing 3 times... Tower shots... Nami coming for almost nothing...mana issues.....respect for the Q management tho.
Bro said triumph proc is lucky lmao. You know it activates when you get a takedown right? Just say you're new to the game homie its ok. We can all learn together.
@@Puddskye. Tower shots are predictable. He probably knew nami was roaming up, What do you mean mana issues, when they dodged their skills? So that likely means they were on CD. The only thing I will attribute to luck, is the amount of hp they lived with. However, HP always varies. So whats important is being able to make the most of it.
No, definitely the champion. I don’t care if you’re the #1 Challenger as soon as I see you play Yasuo or Yone you’re equivalent to a dead lab mouse hooked up to electrodes and a car battery.
As one who had played since season one and never been able to reach higher than diamond 2 i need to say this. People really dont understand how good challenger players are compared to any one else. They are simply out of this world
I mean, you’re saying “he’s definetly not a mage enjoyer” like it’s something new. He was always known for playing ad assassins in mid, I remember analysts talking about his Yasuo before his debut in LEC.
1) that was really impressive. 2) if it took that many few games, he was diamond or masters to begin with on that account. 3)Just because you’re REALLY good, doesn’t mean you aren’t abusing certain things. He would never reach a similar winrate playing mages, tanks or less overloaded bruisers. Certain champs, if you’re really good, like Irelia, Fiora, Yone, can 1vs5 if you’re mechanically gifted.
It was already a good play to get out of the 3vs1. But he instantly knows that they can’t kill him and the way he plays it forward is insane. Yes irelia allows such plays but finding the right spot for this is the hard one
im confused why gragas didn't e under tower immediately instead of throwing q. His E cd was back up. Hmm maybe he was afraid he would hit the minion ig
That was clean af
what clean that champ is dumb borken and shouldnt exist in league
Well yes it was well played but why can he do that??😅😅
@@mecht845 cuz he's better
@@mecht845cuz he dodged everything
@@mecht845 He can do this because he played patiently and confidently, baiting every single enemy ability before committing to the all in
Bro that play was insane
and busted.
My enemies when I'm one win away from ranking up be like
😂😂
😭😭😭💀
The 1st time mid dude with 42% win rate 😂 i can relate
😂😂
Fr I played against rank 1 challenger in my diamond 1 promos. Late night NA matchmaking be like.. lul
he used to be a pro player so he can't be bad
well u would be surprised
Scarra exists
@@itsjayk6581AHAHAHAHAHA
@@sosik7547u played with some of them bro
Cluegi you for sure dont watch pro play
Just casually pulls off a play 99.99% of us couldn’t do in 100 lifetimes.
: Irelia and Yone abuser 😠😠😠
Just because it's hard doesn't make it fair, who else could do this.
Irelia abusers r fine bc atleast u need insane skills for her, yone abusers on the other hand
@@luke.k5768what skill? ive been spamming the shit outta her and already got to emerald on my second account, her skill floor isn't overly high...its just shes more overloaded then every other champ in the entire game so she will almost always win vs ppl of equal or lesser skill simply because she stat checks most of them through Botrk procs...irelia is the main character of league rn essentially
You know full well he wouldn't be sitting at that winrate with any other champs.
@@leeroyj7300 yes bro ur so awfully good at league damn yeah no skill needed to play irelia right ahahahah😎 ur so cool
Some champs are more equal than others.
Just cause it’s difficult to execute doesn’t mean it should be possible. Riot has a hard time understanding this
@@gangsterman5590what’s the point of high skill champs then
@@mirramig fym whats the point this isnt valorant. league isnt a micro oriented game. its a strategy game that leaned to more micro mechanics compared to dota. but champions that can abuse the balance of the game the closer you get the the upper limit of how well u can play that champ is silly.
@@gangsterman5590So a champion that requires you to keep up passive stacks amidst all kinds of chaos while also depending on hitting your skill shots should be less rewarding than a Garen just pressing 3 buttons to 100-0 someone?
@@gangsterman5590 you are either low elo, you play a brainless champ or the combination of both. Most people dont want ro play garen,ivern,annie every single game, theres a reason why riot doesnt release incredibly easy champs.
Enemy: *breathes*
Irelia: QQQQQQIDUSIYWOAJQOHDOSUWIYEIWYW
ok play then bro ?
A perfectly played broken champ is truly scary.
irelia isnt broken... tbf high elo plays limits and they will contest and try but gragas lvl 4 here and the fact they stayed on that play after liss was 100 hp or less is a big mistake by them. As well as a missing bubble by nami.Very well executed by the irelia tho.
@@Rivencrck Having 90% wr Irelia begs to differ.. Why isn't he playing mid mage? Oh right they bad at 1v9
@@BluEclipse94 Theres people on mages too with insane winrates. Your arguments are actually nonsense xD Your so wrong people do this with mages as well! Theres people making 80+% winrate for probably every single mid champ in the game. The secret is beeing cracked. Look at this guys plays, hardly u could pull this off heh? However, theres an advantage in playing snowball heavy champs specially in low elo but in high elo it can also be a burden as its much harder to pull off and utility champs etc have more value bc u actually have teams to play around etc . Irelia is also very hard to play specially against players that know how irelia works. U low elos are so delusional with your talks its crazy. at least hit like d2 + THEN you will have a BASIC understanding of this game. And this is not coping. The first time I hit mid diamond I realized how bad I truely am and how much there is a gap to masters and challenger. At diamond elo you really just get down the basic concepts. You can be a total bafoon mechanical etc if u play like BASIC macro u will still get diamond. I wish ppl would first get high elo, then talk, bc only then they have background to back up their ego and thoughts. And I assure your minds will shift 360 on that journey!
@@Rivencrck Aw here goes butthurt yone abuser, I never saw a mage with insane winrate, even now when jungle mage is considered broken it has max 60% wr on best players.
While yone,yasuo players with lethal tempo were pumping around 90% wr in servers like China, Korea and EUW. Oh please elo this elo that, I'm rank 1 in wow arenas for years, and immortal in dota, im newer in league but I got skills and game sense, there's no need for my mind to ''shift''.
If u think champs like Syndra can go 90% wr u are delusional, only 1v9 champs like yone,yasuo,irelia and simial; can reach that lvl. Try maining a mage and I assure your mind will shift 360 on that journey!
I'm main Irelia Diamante and I agree with what you said@@Rivencrck
Its just these champs have much bigger outplay potential than than the others
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Gragas E flash > Irelia dead
It's not just... it's true but that has nothing to do with this clip
nobody talking about him getting into challenger in less than 50 games? Like he got placed in master or at least diamond to begin with
Maybe he started Diamond/GM last season, HIDDEN mmr help you get 35+ every win and 11- in lost.
So if you lose alot then you will get -20 and +22 most of the time.
so getting a lost streak would make your account be -30 and +14 at most.
You can Spawn emerald 1 max😅 every 1500lp chall Spawn emerald 1 like masters but the master Will do +70 on the first win when the 1500lp challenger Will get a solid +90 or even the 100 lp
u cant place diamond le5 alone masters lol
@@Lsir it was a fresh account but not entirely sure if its a riot one since those have higher mmr
It makes sense, 90% WR means even if he's getting +18/-25 that's +685 over 50 games. The rates were probably better than that since he presumably got initially placed into emerald and was almost immediately playing masters+ lobbies with better LP gains.
He’s super clean but what the fuck is the irelia auto damage
but what the fuck is irelia passive + lvl lead + prolly item lead + all building full dmg!!!! cant be balanced if a mage builds full damage and still gets oneshot riiitoo????
@@pureaut1sm 130 dmg auto attacks (excluding red buff, if im seeing it correctly) with a cull and t1 boots lmao. You tweaking.
conqueror + vamp sceptre + redbuff + they are all in an automatic disadvantage if irelia's in melee range since, they are all ranged(in exception of gragas, but he's treated like a mage both ways.) + irelia passive is one of the strongest in the game specifically earlier on SPECIFICALLY with conqueror stacked. gragas level 4 nami level 4 lissandra level 5 and they missed mostly every ability except nami w and lissandra q. i can say im usually a bit biased as an irelia main but holy shit never seen someone as bronze as you starting an aurgement.
also one protip look at the champions weaknesses before looking at its strengths because people like you would say kayle is easy and broken
@@pureaut1smfamous irelias powerspike - vamp sceptre
@@pureaut1sm kayle is the biggest dogshit in the game, only matched by quinn. you can yap all you want lol, the irelia's abilities and movement are phenomenal, but the auto attack damage is nothing but stupid. You can keep attacking me, you low elo rat, but i'll stick to my premise that her auto damage is stupid
He isn't challenger because of the champion. But he has a 90%wr because of the champion.
Logic on that checks out
No.
u could never reach 90% WR challenger no matter what champs you picked, even if u dedicated your life to it
@@Shockking21 that's an incredibly smart and well constructed argument! Good job!
@@sir5749he's not wrong though
We wasn't surrounded, he was in a target rich environment
On one hand, that play was incredibly smooth. On the other, I don’t think any champion should be allowed to have that many dashes in a single fight for any reason.
yasuo?
I count 12 dashes in 20 seconds. Lets see him doing the same play with Vel Koz.
It's funny because Vel'koz WR% is significantly higher than Irelia's
Wait until this mf finds out that not all champions have same strengths and weaknesses
@@doffy5394lmao okay wise guy, how about this: let’s compare and contrast how many matchups both of those champs win/lose, & see the ratio.
How many 1v1’s do you think Irelia with current patch 1st item BoRK win against the entire roster vs Vel’koz with idk first item Luden’s Companion? Hm? How about even funnier give velkoz magic pen boots & to even it out give irelia tabis or even attack spd boots.
Guarantee you run that shi in a simulation surprise NOT surprised Irelia bodies half the cast meanwhile you need work exponentially harder on Vel’koz. The game is not balanced rn & hasn’t been for a while, it needs to be addressed & changed for the game to get healthier.
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato ofc irelia will most likely win if she can REACH you because she is a duelist, if she couldnt win 1v1 vs most mages given that they have the same gold, what would be the point of the champion? The problem isnt irelia the problem is botrk, she has one of the best powerspikes after purchasing this item, the items passive and stats needs to be readjusted a little.
@@Crona_Gowther_Kanato also if you really believe that irelia is turbo broken, you should in all seriousness play her few games vs players of your own elo
i liked to watch him play in LEC, always banger game, never boring!
He was a reason to watch lec for Sure always enjoyed his Gates.
His champion pool was entertaining!
This dude abused Garen XD.
I'm baffled at the Lol community. Can't believe they actually think it's just the champs he plays. If you think playing X champion is free ELO, just go and play it. But you won't, because it's easier to just throw shit at people and having that narrative in your head than actually testing it out and be proven wrong because 1-the champ takes actual skill and 2-it doesn't matter what champ you play if your decision making is trash
Hard pill to swallow for them lol
I used to think that when I was new but nowadays I'm a jack of all trades so I understand what is needed to play those characters, although not the most skill required for those two champs but the plays that were shown in this video speaks volumes of how good he is. Plus Irelia and Yone players are majorly bad at the game unless you meet a few ones that are good
Irelia is the only assassin bruiser diver in the game that also has good consistent AA damage.
I wouldn't even put her in the assassin category she's definitely a bruiser skirmisher she just can move around a bit more and does alot of built in on hit dmg but her itemization has always been bruiser items excluding Bork bc they compliment her kit very well
@@nathanheath4497 idk man. Not many have enough burst to kill squishies in 1 combo and irelia is able to she can even burst a health stacker like Mundo early on
@@Dentas137literally almost every bruiser can??
what do you mean she's an assassin that ALSO has consistent AA dmg? her AA's are her primary damage output. without them she can't do shit. neither Q nor R does anything without AA followup
@@PanderStar E stun - Q - AA - R -- AA - Q -- AA - if enemy walks into blades -- Q -- AA dead. Sure she weaves AAs into her combo but she can literally burst fucking mundo from 100-0 at lvl 6 with just a vamp sceptre and you mean to tell me that's only from AA? Oh btw Q gets reset if she hits E or R on a target so she can free stack to 4 from one target and then run them down with AAs from 200 range.
towers on break
Bro prepped them to last hit them with Q 💀
Right!
Yone abuser? No. Yone AND Irelia abuser? Correct.
Yet you still wouldn't be able to climb W those champs 💀
im surprised ppl still complain about irelia when other bullshit exisys
@@Melanie-hx3icdoesn't make Irealia less bs
Exactly 😂
@@asunayuuki6714ur just bad at the game
Solid vampiric scepter powerspike, the statcheck is absolutely nuts :))))))))
If he is climbing at rekord breaking speeds then surely we can acknowledge his skill AND the brokeness of the champs at the same time right??
I mean he is competing with every broken pick in roughly 10 seasons of lol after all
I understand that he played well in that clip but the fact his champ was able to do that is ridiculous. Honestly no many other champs that are viewed as really strong are able to do that.
cry
okay but that doesnt mean that the champs he is playing arent good, its the combination of both, he couldnt do the same on yuumi lets say, no matter how good he is, the champ you play still matters a lot and there are stronger and weaker champions no doubt. and some are just better than others for solo queue, that is a fact, solo queue is not competetive, its 2 completely different games.
Yeah but time and time again these people can do this on most any champion ofc you can't on yuumi that's not what she's made for but a challenger yuumi can still do insane things that most others cant
Ur literally bronze lmao
yes people in chalenger purposely play the worst champion in the game to prove they are better. what are you smoking man, ofcourse they play the better champs.
Coping so hard LOL
@@R1Looter Ofc they do Its how it works youd have to be down right dumb to not to take advantage of it yet you still see people trying to abuse the same champs who are still bronze just saying :^ champ means nothing without the proper player to use them
TFBlade had already obtained a 90% win rate challenger, but tbf it took him more games than it took Lider.
That makes it more impressive
@@inksword6029 not rly it just means that tfblade started on lower mmr, which makes it easier to reach chall with a high winrate
@@200yearsofcollectiveexperi5 some people get riot accounts with absurd mmr and get chall really quick so its just a matter of having a short winstreak
That play was insane ? That 1v3 was sure against AI😂
"not the Champion" funny as fk my bro
"It's not the champion that got him there"
Proceeds to show the most irelia clip in existence
I'm sure he's good, but I wish I had a team that could carry my 6/14 Irelia games 😅
Still better than having a 0/10 yasuo...
You don't have 300+ cs when going 6/15
@@mireauappel4678 sure I do, it's called rage splitting 😁
@@mireauappel4678 ye this is the difference, the silver yasuo top will say "but i won lane" while he is at 200cs at 37m and 3 lvls down cuz he roamed half the map for like 3kills total
While the same person will say "oh this feeding Irelia got carried" while the climber will be 350cs at 32 with 4towers taken and 2 lvl lead xD Doesn't mean sht if he is then 1/6/0 lol
spotted the kda player
vampiric scepter triple kill is disgusting but it was crazy well played
Them dashes tho. How many dashes was that? Ten or more lol😂
"It's his buttons that led him there, not the champion", shows a clip of one of the most overtuned champs doing the most bs thing no other champ in the entire game could possibly do LOL.
"Not the champion"
I haven’t kept in touch with league but lider has always been the dark horse of soloq. This man doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. He’s crazy on whatever champion he plays
Bro casually 1vs3 under tower
Yeah except the champs he's using have near unlimited mobility, damage, and CC... so... it is the Champs. Good decision making, but it's also the champs.
And the low cooldowns. It requires nothing but button mashing to play these champs.
Why is every yone playee challenger
@@mtk1808so why aren’t you challenger with 90% wr?
Building tank items
@@hooskyfloosky1653because he doesn't wanna play this shit? I'd rather stay bronze forever than lose my dignity playing yone or irelia
Weakest Irelia main with vamp scepter:
I've been noticing that for some reason skill and luck go hand in hand in this game. As impressive as that might have been, discounting the fact that the kit did most of the heavy lifting, if you say he calculated the exact amount of mana, health and healing needed for this, you are kidding yourself.
the way that he dodge the bobble and the gragas E and after he calculated the CD off the enemys was impressive
He's good no doubt, but everyone knows there are a set number of champions that have the edge over all the others. You won't be seeing anyone with this winrate > chall playing sivir alistar. It is what it is.
Yes, some champs have higher skill ceilings which allows for higher skill expression, but that just goes to show how good he is.
@@El_WIZZA_ yone and skill expression in the same sentence lmao
@@niels64545 your reading skills are terrible sir. Where did I mention yone in my previous sentence?
Alistar may not be the best champ to support your point
@@SweatIRL Been ending every season between 200 and 800LP since S5, never seen an alistar with 90% wr(Or that I noticed). Seen a lot of janna's, though.
Let's be real, the others 3 champs just can't outplay that.
Ah yes let me see you hit that Play against the exact same Players in your lifetime
@@NOname-gb6en That's not the point ? I mean you can train every champs you want you'll never be able to DESTROY 3 people like that just because you play good. I presume than the 3 guys who get outplayed were good but they just CAN'T outplay that and that's NOT fair.
@@matoupetou You have no idea what you are talking about. You can outplay 1v3 on almost every champion if you are mechanical enough. Few examples: Gosu on Vayne, Dante on Heca, Irelia in this video e.t.c.
Lol
I don't care about vayne, tell me what gragas or lissandra can do in this situation exept give up. I think than you have no idea
bro got the good teammates😂
bro was setting up the champ last hits like he was getting ready to stack his passive holy fuck
Irelia full build is just vampiric scepter confirmed
Incredible fed and higher lvl clip. He sure face tanked their kits like a genius and out dps'd them
wdym face tanked when he dodged almost the entire gragas kit and 2 bubbles xd
Obviously he'd still be challenger but I wonder what his win rate would be without those 2 champs. Love, a fill tournament player who has 3 picks per role.
"Its not the champion"🤣🤣
Damn didn't know right clicks is a skill now.
U're probably diamond+ with Irelia to be saying that, right?
Go play irelia and climb out of bronze then lol.
woa legit braindead
I'm sure he's pretty good, but still these are the most overtuned and disgusting champions in the game. You can be 0/6/0 and just when you buy a bork you 1v1 anyone
no you dont?
Ok if your logic is correct than just play irelia and get free elo?
jarvis, put this clip into an elo guessing game
after all that play;
irelia: ok im warmed up
Not irelia healing around 500 hp in that dive lol
Comments: People complaining about the champ and cant accept that he is just inanely good on an high skill expression champ. Then just attacking each other scharacters i.e calling people bad. Instead of saying constructive stuff and ultimately admitting its him and not the champ, some champs can do some things and some champs can do other things. This is just high skill expression from the irrelia knowing thier limits and knowing extensively how the other champs work. Yeah he couldnt do this on other champs but that by no means makes a champ broken cause ultimately if they were they would be seen across pro play and eventually get nerfed. Accept this guy is just better.
I was so disappointed when i saw the champs he played but i knew it would be these kind of broken champs that can auto anyone to death and people think it's skilled. Id like to see him hit chall 60% winrate with yorick, but we all know the champs are not on the same level.
He lined them up like he was playing checkers
That was actually insane wtf
Uh oh he said it takes skill to have a 90% wr in challenger on irelia and yone, here come all the lol players explaining how broken those champs are
Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive
i fucking hate this mother fuckers who complain yes irelia and yone is broken so why wont they use it to reach challenger easily? oh shit they cant! plot twist because even if you use op champs you still need to be good its a fucking massive skill issue, although i do can understand its annoying when you fight an irelia or yone even more so when the player who use those champs are good on it
Clean play, but a level 6 skirmisher should definitely not be able to fight and then towerdive 3 champions (piloted by high-skill players), get a triple kill, and then survive, alone. Utter degeneracy.
To be fair, he played it perfectly. For that to work he had to hit his first e, then prepare the minions with w, dodge Gragas body slam, hit e on two targets and in general just not missclick once
@@ciriousjoker Oh yeah he absolutely played that magnificently, but my point still stands.
No hate against you in particular, but your comment reminds me of the mindset some "high-skill" champion mains have about their champ, where they think they should be able to do whatever they want as long as they play well. I'm sure you know the type - Irelia, Yone, Kai'sa, K'sante, Riven, etc. players who will refuse point blank that there is anything wrong with their champion (not to say that any of those champs are OP, by the way, but they're definitely not designed perfectly) because they played the fight well.
"Well yeah, I won a 1v2 against the 11/2 Darius and the 7/0 Ahri as a 1/4 Kai'sa, but I dodged Apprehend and Charm, so that's normal!"
@@Ceracio Yone and Asante are dumb, sure. Irelia, Kaisa and Riven are balanced though. Kaisa has really low range, Irelia actually needs to hit her spells and Riven also can't face roll her keyboard unless she's super broken.
The 1v2 as Kaisa might be possible if she has some items. The point is that by dodging apprehend/charm you most likely also dodge their other abilities and as a high DPS adc you do have enough damage to chew through most hp bars if you can buy yourself enough time. Specifically for those champs, if Ahri doesn't hit her spells and Darius doesn't get in range they deal very little damage.
Some champs just inherently have more playmaking potential and if the enemy champ has limited options against high mobility/outplay spells they should get punished for that
@@ciriousjoker Balanced, yes. I still think the design is stupid. What I'm getting at is that they feel terrible to play against (except non-OP Riven, as you mentioned) because they get to say "I don't care how fed/skilled you are, I played this fight well therefore I win, even when at a number and resource disadvantage". I get that some champions get playmaking potential in lieu of up front combat power, and that's normal, but in that case why do Yone, Irelia, Yasuo, Kai'sa, Fiora and such ALSO get to be statcheckers when they're ahead, or in Yone and K'sante's case, even when they're not ahead, but just not too far behind? Like, a fed Kai'sa can right-click, let go of their mouse and keyboard, and kill most other champions before dying 1v1, why does she get to do that AND win a 1v2 against fed opponents while being underfed as fuck?
In card games, different colours/factions/classes/decks get to be good at EITHER getting ahead and pushing for a victory (earlygame/bully/statchecker), or stalling/surviving long enough to outvalue their opponents, and come back from disadvantageous situations (lategame/scaling/outplay). If one could do both, that would be the most toxic thing in the game (even if the deck itself weren't OP). Conceptual differences aside, I don't see why League would be different. There's a reason this kind of outplay champions are the most hated group in the game, and there's also a reason champions like Lee are nowhere near as hated, despite also being outplay champs. If Lee is behind or not absurdly ahead, he is JUST a playmaker. If Yone's behind, he can probably outduel your sidelaner, splitpush faster than them, win a 1v2 you throw at him, and solo non-Baron neutral objectives faster than an adc.
I'm gonna stop rambling now. Have a nice day, and please understand I'm not having a go at you or anyone else, for that matter. I'm just (probably overly) passionnate about subjects I enjoy.
@@ciriousjokerto counter that, if any champ other than maybe 5 others play it perfectly there, best case scenario they at least die for the triple. Most of the conditionals you mentioned could be pulled off by any irelia one trick, and mentioning misclicking seems like a reach to put in there(it happens occasionally, but no one is getting Pat's on the back for not misclicking, except of, to excuse certain champions from criticism)
Honestly there are plenty of champs that can 1 v 3 if ahead, but this guy had a single vamp scepter , so in my mind the only way that this fight should be winnable in a strategy game is if the enemy team griefs the fight, not counting missed skillshots because irelia has a 0 cd dash
Bro is cooking with that mic
Probably the most insane irelia clip in history
Not the champion.. right.. last season I was emerald4, now d1 with 80% wr because I spammed vi and brand in jg in the first 2 weeks lol
no way u r comparing ur d1 stats to this..
Are you actually comparing low-mid elo to the highest of the highest?
90% wr Chall and 80% wr D1 ARE NOT the same
People here really have some issues with understanding the point of OP comment. But what can I expect from league players
@@kayobas6484 The ex LEC player probably had a Riot boosted mmr Acc anyways.
No way a normal account can get to challenger having only 50 games that's riot doing. I've had virgin acc with 90% winrate from unraked to plat-emmerald with same 50 games and the LP gains just don't keep up with the winrate.
Riot acc is just cheating broken. Unless he wasnt given a riot acc and his acc maybe already was chall snother season.
Nah wtf, he’s good yeah but what tf was that Gragas and Lisandro doing? Are they brain damaged
“his button clicks not his champion”
Shows irelia casually 1v3 ing
I dont see enough question marks on that man
Yes, he's good, but he wouldn't get 90% WR challenger playing Heimer. Irelia and Yone are both busted champs and everyone knows it. Same thing with TF Blade. Spam Yone/Jax/Irelia every game and it helps you climb a lot faster
this, its a comp game ,so eatger you play this or som else and maybe never reach it, or you will take 2 times as long. Just facts,
Bruisers are just the best types of champions to solo carry games and that's fine no?
@@SweatIRL I personally think they're over-tuned but I don't play enough league anymore to know how S14 is. Then again, part of their problem is their kit (yone for example)
Then you do it on yone irelia and jax
@@thienantran2362 like I said I dont play leagur anymore.
Yone+Irelia abuse
if irelia is so broken then what rank can u peak on her?
ur silver peak mutant XDD
@@ottoharing7161 Probably like high diamond or low masters easily. Way easier than it would take playing almost any other champs mid/top
@@eckpu don't project
Dude just utilized Conqueror to its full potential despite being the worst Rune in the last 2 seasons
To make a play clean as that and stay alive must say respect
was that clip supposed to be super impressive 😭 that’s just irelia
Says the silver player
@@bigpascal2k7🤮
Yeh you could do it any day im sure. In cardboard 17 elo where you naturally exist.
@@darkin1484 the projecting is crazy brother
@@bigpascal2k7 not silver
That's also tons of luck...the triumph lroccinproccing 3 times... Tower shots... Nami coming for almost nothing...mana issues.....respect for the Q management tho.
Pure skill bud. Watch it again.
Bro said triumph proc is lucky lmao. You know it activates when you get a takedown right? Just say you're new to the game homie its ok. We can all learn together.
@@El_WIZZA_ 💀 everything I mentioned but the troumph proc is luck. There. 🤣
@@Puddskye. Tower shots are predictable. He probably knew nami was roaming up, What do you mean mana issues, when they dodged their skills? So that likely means they were on CD. The only thing I will attribute to luck, is the amount of hp they lived with. However, HP always varies. So whats important is being able to make the most of it.
Caitlyn about to collect the shitdown with ult: 👁👄👁
No, definitely the champion. I don’t care if you’re the #1 Challenger as soon as I see you play Yasuo or Yone you’re equivalent to a dead lab mouse hooked up to electrodes and a car battery.
Yasuo?
not the champion?
cope
That was the best Irelia play I have ever seen
As one who had played since season one and never been able to reach higher than diamond 2 i need to say this. People really dont understand how good challenger players are compared to any one else. They are simply out of this world
look how he anticipates and dodges nami bubble and gragas e, so insane
Dude made the play I see in my dreams at night
that irelia e cast was so fast my sleepy brain didnt even see the mouse move
Forever one of my favorite players. Was always so good on broadcast too!
Wow. That set-up was beautiful.
i play league since season 1, this was one of the best plays ive seen
That 1st E was nasty. I watched it 5 times and still couldnt see it
Dude.... wtf was that play, perfect
Bro and he tanks the tower shot and the wave to set it up to push back to him on recall crazy
Some people are just too good at video games.
I’d instantly surrender and i wouldn’t even be mad about it
im pulling the cables with my teeth after that
That's disgusting 😂 how he managed to have just enough mana to pull that off is insane
I mean, you’re saying “he’s definetly not a mage enjoyer” like it’s something new. He was always known for playing ad assassins in mid, I remember analysts talking about his Yasuo before his debut in LEC.
that using q to dodge grag eqw is just elegant
“Ok i warmed up”💅🏻
I have to give your that…. That’s so clean….
Only pro player who had the balls to lock in zed last year
This is just the Blight and Nurse 1000+ Win streaks, but in league...
1) that was really impressive.
2) if it took that many few games, he was diamond or masters to begin with on that account.
3)Just because you’re REALLY good, doesn’t mean you aren’t abusing certain things.
He would never reach a similar winrate playing mages, tanks or less overloaded bruisers.
Certain champs, if you’re really good, like Irelia, Fiora, Yone, can 1vs5 if you’re mechanically gifted.
My guy pressed 3 buttons at the same time
It was already a good play to get out of the 3vs1. But he instantly knows that they can’t kill him and the way he plays it forward is insane. Yes irelia allows such plays but finding the right spot for this is the hard one
Okay, that was actually insane
im confused why gragas didn't e under tower immediately instead of throwing q. His E cd was back up. Hmm maybe he was afraid he would hit the minion ig
Tbh, if juggernauts were balanced around what duelists like Irelia and Yone could do, theyd be way more broken in low elo
Win streak in solo ranked is insane