Ice Climbers - Cheer Cancel Desync Guide
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- In this video, we cover the ins and outs of one of the best desyncs the Ice Climbers can perform, Cheer Cancel.
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#SSBU_IC#cheercancel - Hry
I know what I'm doing tomorrow on stream LOL
Ic's, busteed
Bald busted ;)
Woah esam existing on a ICs video
Cheer canceling IDJ combos are going to be wild
Give a shout out to this guy
Although i dont main icies, I am watching how this character's meta develops closely. This character is insane
This is garbage. Show the steve steak cancel. that's all I'm here for tbh.
LMAOOOOO
Thank you so much Imprez. Been wanting a guide on CC desync for ages. You're the man!
Great Ics videos. Found these gems while trying to find a basic guide for the whole character lol. The desync is explained very well, and the controller input overlay really helps!
by far the most useful guide i have seen
great video! i love that so many people are hustling to advance the IC's meta. keep it prez!!!
Thank you!!!!
Best IC's guide by far!
Amazing video, you explained it really well and I was able to do my first cheer cancel my second try, I get it about 1 3rd of the time now, but I am going to work on it till I get it constant. Thanks for the instructions!
Just like that. You earned a sub.
Amazing video my guy
This is such a great video
Thank you :)))
Great vid!
Note: another really good option (untechable!!) Is CC Dthrow (footstool with Nana and immediately dair) and Fsmash as Popo
It kills pretty early and is completely true and untechable!
I'm a huge IC main, and this is what I require!
Much more to learn. Thanks :)
THE most underrated Smash channel I’ve seen. The edits are OUTSTANDING
Thank you!!! I put a lot of heart and soul into my longer tutorials, and I love to hear that. Thank you so much!
I always play random against my friends and get Icies EVERY TIME within 5 games I hated it but I decided after watching WADI labbing them I wanted to give them a shot. I just picked them up and trying this tech was driving me crazy but I can get the desync half the time now
I have ptsd from when I first fought by watching this video.
LOL
as an up and coming ice climbers main, this looks interesting. I will try this tomorrow morning and give my opinions on it.
It's very good! Hope you get good use out of it.
*melee handoffs intensify*
❤️
Points for Superliminal soundtrack. Crazy game.
that first combo showcase was just ICs doing a steve combo on steve
the superliminal music is beyond based
WOW
Surprised with the quality of the video, cause I already know jcc but it was still a fun watch! Like the narration, good mic quality, steady voice good pace. Still don’t know the timing to varry the height of the (fair) fsmash (2:27 vs 3:40). Quality stuff!
Yeah it's honestly like something I just had to "feel" when I learned it. I can help you personally sometime prob!
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH :)
Just learned how to do this and I’ve been starting to get it more consistently in online matches. Time to see how far this can take me >:)
Update?
Update?
Update?
Hey there, so I just wanted to start using them since I never really played Smash bros before. So what controller set up would you recommend for the GC one?
I am unusual, and I use default with tilt stick, but I hear setting jump to a trigger/bumper is common
Thanks, it's hard because all the guides are pre-8.0.0. Thanks!
Ferb I know what we're going to do today
I’M SO STUPID YOU SAID TO DASH AND I SPENT 30 MINUTES FULLY SPRINTING…ugh Lmao. Dashed and I haven’t missed it a single time yet :) thanks!!!
Trust me, I've been there LOL glad to hear it
@@Imprez2564 this characters damage potential is insane even off of nair fast fall airiels and this whole time I’ve been going to locals solo Dk. You really helped a lot hope you keep growing haha
this... genuinely helped me. thank you. i was doing the same thing
I’m stupid, I just realized you said dash not the full run animation. Thanks for the guide!
I had this problem once too😂
Thanks man!!
Oh my god thank you
Finally a good ice climbers guide. Spot dodging and dash backs and all those other things suck.
Ngl I just came here looking for other cheer cancels than jump...I'm blred I need more minds to prey on lol
...now I'm thinking...is nana just popos persona
Imagine what he would do if he was online
I dont understand. I can do the everything up to choosing weather to do a smash attack or something after the throw. do i just input a smash attack? cuz everytime i do it i foward throw and do something i didnt want to.
A+B smash only!
@@Imprez2564 ohhh i see i was using smash stick. thank you for your response
All of this works too if you are already desynced and regrab, right? Nana wont cheer anyway but im talking bout bthrow fair or dthrow footstool for example.
Reset training messes me up cus I wanna do pro controller r grab into l pummel into ab smash..
been tryong for a while and I get the cheer jump cancel, not the jump before the cheer, any tips (i use gcc)
Make sure you basically don't let Nana touch the ground before the throw, if she's there for like a split second she'll re sync
I'm a hero main, but I wanna widen my mains and this is so aggravating to do, any tips? Already tried x1 frame
It's probably a LOT faster than you think, and for a lot of people the easiest set of inputs is mashing grab and jump at the same time basically, twice (for jump CC at least)
You want to make sure it's some form of grab, ______, and pummel VERY fast in succession
I really understand everything and sometimes hit it but i dont know what im doing worng when im not hitting it :/ any tips for the timing on jcc
Yeah! You usually won't want to buffer it immediately, you want to wait a little bit for the follow up so whatever you do (probably fair) will connect properly.
This is a really good, underrated tutorial!
Any tips on how to do it with a pro controller?
i recommend using shoulder button jump and spamming them when you hit grab
@@Freezie-oz9we k thx
Wait so u pressed grab -> grab and jump and a -> jump? For the nana jump input.
Yeah check the part where I explain the controller inputs! I personally do
Z+A twice quickly after dashing
When I throw, nana does the cheer cancel but doesn’t double jump for the follow up f-air. What am I doing wrong?
Try delaying the timing, but still before she hits the ground. you have to input another jump to get that double jump
When I do Grab & A+B, Nana does do a forward smash, but the opponent doesn't get knocked out of my grasp. What am I doing wrong?
This usually means the fsmash is stale
I’m having trouble with two things right now, nana doesn’t always go right that much so I don’t hit the foot stool, and when I do hit the footstool she will sometimes just airdodge normally and not directionally, am I doing something wrong?
Hold forward to get the footstool! A lot of times she isn't close enough without holding forward. As for the second part, maybe you're letting go of the stick too fast? Try doing it at a slower speed and see
thank you so much1 @@Imprez2564
So how do you do it?
Any tips on landing the back throw>fair? Nana always seems to jump to low when I try it.
Try holding out and make sure your second jump is a short hop aerial, not just a jump and then fair
@@Imprez2564 Thanks for the quick reply, that was really fast! I'm still not getting it, though. Nana only does a very small double jump after the throw when I try. When you do it, your Nana does a way higher double jump. But I'm already up too late as it is, so I'll try again tomorrow hopefully.
Man I love icies, been maining them for a while, but I just can't seem to get this desync, idk if its my control or me but I just can't seem to get this anywhere near consistently
If anyone has a link showing the physical hand movement that’d be lit, I feel like it’s hard for me to imitate the button mapping
@@TheArmandoGutierrez my best suggestion is to start by doing a dash grab but just MASH Z+X twice
Do it "at the same time" but realistically the game has to read the grab input first. Z+X is the easiest way for jump cc imo
How?
I only managed to get them desynched 2 times in Training mode. Often when I tap grab and jump the game converts them to a short hop aerial.
If you're using the grab button and jump, make sure you're tapping it twice quickly, and try it out of dash (not run, but dash). Dash is easier than standing
Can someone help me please, I am having trouble with getting the Cheer Cancel into Footstool. Nana does get in a position where it would seem a footstool would be possible but she does not footstool
Hold forward!
As much as I wanna learn this, everytime they desync nana just airdodges immediately because Im mashing grab, pummel, and jump too fast. No idea what to do or how to fix it, oh well.
Make sure you only do it twice, and if you still can't get it I recommend joining ic cord! Fantastic discord and community
@@Imprez2564 didn't expect anyome much less you to answer since this video is 9 months old. Thanks! And great video by the way! Don't know how you don't have more subs
Do I need to control you have to do it or can I use joy cons
You can use anything really
#CANCELCHEER
Anybody know how to do it on pro controller with NORMAL settings without changing any buttons or anything?
Works the same way, try Z+A method I mention
Everytime I try to spam X and ZR on my pro controller I just start doing nairs and it doesn't work. Does anyone have any pointers to help me out with this for pro controller?
lol idk if this is helpful 3 months later but i press grab just a *tiny* bit before x. if i press them both at exactly the same time i nair, and then if i jump first then do grab, i airdodge. So yeah just a tiny tiny bit before u press jump press grab when you're 'pressing them both at the same time'. Also don't forget that this is for dash and not full run.
@@johannp8435 thx for pointing the dash out.
1:03 I can't do it someone plz help me
Did this get patched or am I just not understanding the inputs?
Nope it still works! Timing is pretty fast.
#cheerisoverparty
I seem to be inputting it too slow is there anyway to get it down pat Consistently?
My best tip is to just press X and Z both very quickly out of a dash, reference the video for timing!
@@Imprez2564 wow, thanks for tip and replying so quickly
I can’t so forward throw fair no matter how hard I try any tips?
Is it a timing issue with the fair or are you just not getting cc?
If it's timing, just know the fair can be buffered as needed. The timing really is something you have to feel out, but my guess is you aren't doing it fast enough, as that's typically the problem
I had a problem with this too you have to make sure nana is done with her animation and right at the end of it hit attack and jump at the same time while holding forward
i keep on getting the desync but i cant control nana after she jumps, any tips?
Make sure you aren't letting her touch the ground!
@@Imprez2564 thanks for the tip, its just when shes in the air and i throw i cant really control where she goes or what move she does consistantly
I have ab smash on but I can’t get the fsmash. Any tips?
It's pretty fast, honestly start by doing dash grab and literally just mash AB and Z, FAST. Odds are you'll get the timing and then learn it from there. That one is the simplest
Is the timing to do a spot dodge really strict? I keep getting down throw
So what are the inputs on a pro controller?
Same timing just use the respective buttons for jump/pummel!
@@Imprez2564 thanks I’ll keep trying
Are you using default controls?
and do you use Z for the pummel?
@@TheGreatGatsbySSB yes and yes you can, there's multiple ways of doing it as shown!
How exactly do you do seperate aerials like at 5:00? I do them accidentally sometimes.
Hitlag desync! It happens when you hit a synced aerial in the air, you can buffer two options.
There I buffered a nair and then held forward so Nana did fair!
@@Imprez2564 every time I try to hit an aerial and buffer for popo and do another for Nana, they seem to do the same aerial. Is there some system to make sure they do different aerials?
0:38
Wtf whenever I do grab and jump at the same time a nair comes out? Can someone help me
Try one of the other input methods I covered first, like Grab X and A
I CANT DO IT IDK WHY
Don't give up! It takes practice!
I still don’t get it :(
Remember, grab > option of choice > pummel REALLY FAST
Hop in the ICs Discord for more help too!
After 4 weeks of procrastination I actually did it :)
Can someone pls use a pro controller to show inputs for the 75% people that don't use gamecube😭
It's exactly the same timing and inputs, just use the respective buttons on a pro controller
@@Imprez2564 true it is just respective buttons on the other controller but some buttons that are right next to your finger that you can just slide to with your finger you have to reach across your controller to get or you have to put your thumb a little farther to the left than usual which makes a lot of difference when you're trying to do a combo like this
Not working for me
Then do it better bruh! 💀💀💀
@@princedemo9291 nah the meat munching crazy😭
You just killed me on fort
I’m having trouble understanding this guide.. I can’t put into words why either..
Uh ok try watching the inputs slower maybe!
I get confused at 1:15...
Like rapidly hit jump and grab twice doesn’t seem to cause the cheer cancel.. and I’m sure that’s where I’m misunderstanding
@@holdenlabrie5706 You press z, and then IMMEDIATELY press z and y at the same time. The 2nd Z is for the pummel, and y will make Nana (hopefully) jump!
Also sorry Imprez, I realize the wording isn’t exactly productive but I’m new to desyncing in general so it’s a little complex for me