Has NASCAR Gotten SLOWER In The Last 10 YEARS?

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  • čas přidán 25. 03. 2024
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  • @THEWINDTUNNEL
    @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci +40

    Which of these two eras do you prefer?

  • @sharkk127
    @sharkk127 Před 4 měsíci +108

    I wish nascar would go back to 900 hp, i want to see the drivers actually challenged and to see whis actually the best

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 Před 4 měsíci +16

      Instead, they would rather make the cars easier to drive and copy other motorsports to get fans outside of NASCAR.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@deathtrooper2048the look of the 2014 NASCAR FORD FUSION still miles above 2024 REPCO V8 Supercars Gen 3 and GEN 7 NASCAR Cars.

    • @miketwotwenty
      @miketwotwenty Před 4 měsíci +4

      I think 800hp would be perfect I definitely would love to see more horsepower!

    • @wyro5o
      @wyro5o Před 3 měsíci +9

      Talentless rich kids with sponsors can’t handle 900hp

    • @MattyC62185
      @MattyC62185 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@wyro5o yes and 900 hp on a truck like Daytona those cars would be so fast that lots of them could be dying. Even then the restricted plates on tracks like that cap them at about 400 hp Michigan and Talladega also have those dang plates

  • @nitroshark9887
    @nitroshark9887 Před 4 měsíci +135

    2014 was the best rules package

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +13

      And also LAST ever season when NASCAR being at its best. Ever since 2015 to 2024, NASCAR has gone downhill forever.

    • @miketwotwenty
      @miketwotwenty Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@purwantiallan5089 I miss 2014 nascar season, but NASCAR is more interesting than it used to be I’ve been watching for over 20 years, but you can’t deny that when they added more roadcourses in NASCAR it make it more interesting! I think we have a good amount of variety of tracks I think NASCAR should go back to Canada or race in Japan at Suzuka!

  • @josephharrison5639
    @josephharrison5639 Před 4 měsíci +26

    NASCAR needs to increase horsepower back to 750 if not higher

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Maybe next year they gonna increase it to 950 or 1000bhp like Pikes Peak Hillclimb Cars.

  • @walletracer9882
    @walletracer9882 Před 4 měsíci +40

    Hard to believe that a Gen-6 car would beat a Gen-7 car around road courses. Brakes and suspension are so much better now.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci +13

      Look no further than Watkins Glen real qualifying times

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +7

      2027, hopefully NASCAR should go back to 1000bhp package on all tracks and 5 speed sequential gearbox.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@THEWINDTUNNELwhy not try out Fuji Speedway or Suzuka or Istanbul Park?

    • @myck7021
      @myck7021 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The reason is the actual chassi is so heavy creating more downforce, so Gen 7 basically gives a false sense of speed when in reality there dirt slow

    • @thrashmarky
      @thrashmarky Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠@@purwantiallan5089because they actually race at Watkins Glen

  • @cascolan
    @cascolan Před 4 měsíci +18

    Reminder: the true laptimes are shown at the end, under the “Theoretical Qualifying Times”. The video showing the racing is just for entertainment.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      Even 2024 ARCA cars from Gen 4 NASCAR Stock Cars also looked better than Gen 7 NASCAR Car.

  • @punyhunk8686
    @punyhunk8686 Před 4 měsíci +202

    This is a poor comparison. IF you wanted to see which was faster they can't be on the same track. It would have to be single car runs. I can tell because the Gen 7 car is absolutely struggling behind the gen 6 car. It's going way off line in some areas and that's screwing with the actual speed. Not hate! Just constructive criticism.

    • @1999Subaru
      @1999Subaru Před 4 měsíci +53

      Even if that was the case, the results still wouldn't change.

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 4 měsíci +43

      Exactly. Gen 7 is slower regardless. The lap times/records are nowhere near Gen 6 peak.

    • @dieselscartalk4146
      @dieselscartalk4146 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Even if the Gen 6 was faster, it's still not representative of the gap between them.

    • @juanc5149
      @juanc5149 Před 4 měsíci +9

      If anything Gen 7 car has an advantage because it can use gen 6 for drafting… if it could keep up.

    • @YOLOLMK
      @YOLOLMK Před 4 měsíci +18

      i mean, the creator did put theatrical qualifying times after each race is done, so i think he did what you want

  • @v8ramair145
    @v8ramair145 Před 4 měsíci +36

    Awesome video. Gen 7 is slower in all forms of racing, even with bigger brakes and wider tires. Less downforce and hp makes a huge difference. (And for those that claim Gen 7 makes more downforce, that is wrong. 2014 peaked with downforce at around 3500 lb. Gen 7 was around 2000 for non superspeedway and 2500 for superspeedway, which has already been reduced this year)

  • @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
    @Waddle_Dee_With_Internet Před 4 měsíci +7

    2019-2021 was the slowest era

    • @josephperez6706
      @josephperez6706 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah they had 550 hp for most of it I think. The cars are still fast no matter what but I can still see why people want more hp

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci +5

    NASCAR GEN 7 in 2024: BRING BACK THE 2014 PACKAGE, PLEASE!

  • @chechocy7364
    @chechocy7364 Před 4 měsíci +16

    The Argentine TC is undergoing a renovation. Can you pit a car from the old gen against one from the new gen?

    • @crisstiancasali1998
      @crisstiancasali1998 Před 4 měsíci

      Lo único que cambio fue la carrocería.. chasis, suspensión y mecánica sigue siendo la misma, este año se aumento en 50cc pero es para todos los autos por igual

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      Well maybe in next month.

  • @daltonhawbaker1166
    @daltonhawbaker1166 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Not only did the cars get slower,but the quality of racing drastically declined.

  • @gawr88
    @gawr88 Před 4 měsíci +6

    2014 was a goldmine

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      True. Even Karin Asaka (also a big fan of NASCAR in general), Mia Taylor, and Yuu Takasaki (which Mia call her as "Baby-chan") also prefer the 2014 package over 2022 spec Gen 7 NASCAR Cars.

  • @horsecrazyviking7121
    @horsecrazyviking7121 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Should note that the Horsepower on the superspeedway is around 450 for 2014 and 510 for 2024.

  • @joshhuffine4522
    @joshhuffine4522 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Ive been saying it for years!!! Let the cars loose and fix the walls fences.. we should be running 230+mph on the superspeedways.

    • @metalbrick55
      @metalbrick55 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Last time we left the cars unrestricted at super speedways, we had a car fly into the catch fence.

    • @alanjohnson911
      @alanjohnson911 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@metalbrick55We've had cars in the catch fence restricted............surely you remember Austin Dillon Daytona wreck, Carl Edwards Talladega wreck, Ryan Newman wreck...wasn't in fence but mega airborne. Lift off speed is in the 167-175 ballpark.

    • @metalbrick55
      @metalbrick55 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@alanjohnson911 I know. Those would have been worse if the cars were still unrestricted at that point. Gen 5 could pass 250 easily and gen 6 did 240 at a Michigan test.

    • @alanjohnson911
      @alanjohnson911 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@metalbrick55
      I know that, I'm all for more HP, I've been watching and around stock car racing and Nascar for 50+ yrs. I'm old school so I'm always up for more HP, I also drove a late model in the 80s. I always wanted more HP lol

  • @JayStephens8
    @JayStephens8 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Would be nice if nascar would get off their asses and raise the hp, fans, drivers, teams, and manufacturers all want it but nascar keeps making up every excuse imaginable not to

  • @ScottyPryor
    @ScottyPryor Před 3 měsíci +4

    next gen would be filthy with 900hp

    • @bencaldwell7234
      @bencaldwell7234 Před 3 měsíci

      Agree you would also take care of the tire fall off problem with 900 horses put the race back in the driver's hands they will ajust to how hard they want to run the car. Gen 6 so much louder to

  • @valecasini
    @valecasini Před 4 měsíci +15

    Why is the 2014 one "tail happy"?

    • @miketwotwenty
      @miketwotwenty Před 4 měsíci +21

      It doesn’t have a independent rear suspension!

    • @loganwatterson7308
      @loganwatterson7308 Před 4 měsíci

      Looks like it’s being driven by a controller instead of a wheel

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@loganwatterson7308does the Gen 7 NASCAR Cars driven with PS5 Dualsense Controller?

    • @km6832
      @km6832 Před 4 měsíci +2

      900hp skinnier tires

    • @metalbrick55
      @metalbrick55 Před 3 měsíci

      The gen 6 were always tail happy if you weren't careful. it's why car control was so important up until gen 7, arguably the end of gen 4 being the hardest to drive. When you have 800 horsepower going to 13 inch wide tires, you're gonna get tail happy lol

  • @user-Dr.
    @user-Dr. Před 3 měsíci +1

    They have got to bring the HP back before all of the fans are gone, reminds me of going to the local go kart track, 7 mph limit, the fatter guy always loses, takes him a second longer to get to 7, out of the corners.

  • @crowley29
    @crowley29 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I think what it is is that nascar is scared to give the car more horsepower because they know the car isn't safe and they already had 2 injurys with it

    • @ChrisBl33p
      @ChrisBl33p Před 3 měsíci

      The engine builders say 750 is definitely doable without incurring much additional cost, and the drivers would like it (quite a few of them have said this on record), but NASCAR wants a fourth manufacturer (Honda) and they're not willing to raise power.

  • @TheRacingMemes
    @TheRacingMemes Před 3 měsíci +1

    Please, compare Gen 6 2014 NASCAR Cup, 2024 Next Gen and ARCA Menards Series to see if ARCA is faster than Next Gen and how it's slower than 2014 Cup car

  • @ScottJohnson4449
    @ScottJohnson4449 Před 4 měsíci

    Very cool. My favorite comparison was the new car vs. Petty Superbird.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci

      People loved that one, it even got featured in "The Drive"! www.thedrive.com/news/plymouth-superbird-nascar-racing

    • @ScottJohnson4449
      @ScottJohnson4449 Před 4 měsíci

      I just read the article. Very cool, indeed. Props!@@THEWINDTUNNEL

  • @56JKL
    @56JKL Před 2 měsíci

    I’d be interested to see an unrestricted gen 4 car. Cool video. Crazy to me that even cars from decades ago would destroy modern cars in top speeds and stuff. Gen 7 might beat it on road courses though.

  • @java_.1.
    @java_.1. Před 4 měsíci

    I need that gen 6 car

  • @mattj6676
    @mattj6676 Před 3 měsíci

    It's hard to compare the two, but it's an interesting exercise in any case. The modern car should handle better than the older one, especially on the road course, it's a different size wheel with lower sidewalls, the suspension is better, etc. There are also differences between the tire compounds in the different eras, the newer tires are designed to wear more quickly because the cars' chassis are so much better. I'd be curious how the road course looks at lap 15 in terms of relative speed. In the end, there's no beating an extra 150 hp...

  • @ryanplayz6848
    @ryanplayz6848 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey man, I'm a big fan and I just wanted to know where you get the mods for your videos. For example the f1 cars and the lmp1 cars.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Check RSS, URD and VRC's pages. Best mods for AC

    • @ryanplayz6848
      @ryanplayz6848 Před 3 měsíci

      @@THEWINDTUNNEL alr ty man

    • @ryanplayz6848
      @ryanplayz6848 Před 3 měsíci

      @@THEWINDTUNNEL Hi, I know it's been a while since I commented this, but most of these cost money and I don't want to pay for a game I already paid for. Do you have any websites that allow for free mods? If you do, thank you.

  • @packisbetter90
    @packisbetter90 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I miss gen 6 and before

  • @thegreattreon0177
    @thegreattreon0177 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Lol just like I predicted a few days ago, The 2014 car would destroy the 2024 car. There's nothing that'll replace good ol horsepower no matter the car

  • @andyjennings15
    @andyjennings15 Před 3 měsíci

    Displaying the speed of the cars in the apex of the turn would give a better understanding as well. Or was that what you did at 1:05 ?

  • @jamex98
    @jamex98 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Well this 2014 gen6 are the better racing, no matter they're got old 4speed gear but has be the faster than the current era we see today. Nascar needs to go back on highly horsepower. And this also a reason i lost interest watching Nascar for longer years since dodge left in racing

  • @sirafoxtron1701
    @sirafoxtron1701 Před 3 měsíci

    In the short one to intermedete the 2014 ford just wiggling through the corner

  • @UberBug1
    @UberBug1 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Still playing NR2003 here

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Fantastic sim, it's ageless!!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      NR2003 and Dirt to Daytona and ALL NASCAR THUNDER GAMES on PS1 and 2 are still the GOAT!

  • @castironbandito
    @castironbandito Před měsícem

    The benefit of having lower horsepower with the next-gen cars is that they are safer as having 900 horsepower meant there would be more wrecks and the cars would be hard to control. So yeah, I'm glad that NASCAR lowered the horsepower to make them safer.

  • @lamonthemingway7332
    @lamonthemingway7332 Před měsícem

    They should begin back the old NASCAR cars

  • @jasonrussell5613
    @jasonrussell5613 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Give me a 87 thunderbird with an Ernie Elliott built 625 horsepower engine and I will be happy! Had the 87 but the 3.8 just wasn’t enough!

  • @revelare_xvii6269
    @revelare_xvii6269 Před 4 měsíci

    If Nascar isn’t gonna add more power to the engines themselves then they might as well go the hybrid route, maybe a similar setup to LMDH cars.

  • @Th3cosmic_
    @Th3cosmic_ Před 3 měsíci

    where did you find the mod for AC? thanks!

  • @greendayray
    @greendayray Před 3 měsíci

    I randomly watched a clip from the gen 6 era recently and I instantly was like…man, it looks like they are going a bit faster. You don’t notice until you compare clips

    • @alanjohnson911
      @alanjohnson911 Před 3 měsíci

      They are going a LOT faster...especially top speed at end of straightaways. At California and Michigan they were running upon turn entry, 218-220mph in qual trim

  • @rouge4736
    @rouge4736 Před 4 měsíci +7

    DO GROUP C CARS AT TALLADEGA OVAL NOT ROAD COURSE

    • @joogiewatkins1519
      @joogiewatkins1519 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Talladega has a road course?

    • @Crona95
      @Crona95 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@joogiewatkins1519had more specifically, it was run from 69 to 89 after that any trace of it was slowly removed until mid 2006 when the track was repaved entirely

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci

      Hell yeah 😏

  • @dawurss
    @dawurss Před 3 měsíci

    Would been interesting to see them at Sonoma

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Great question. On such a lower speed technical track, we would think Gen 7 would have an advantage with bigger brakes and wider tires. But Gen 7 is still multiple seconds slower than Gen 6 here. Almost pathetically slower, for having those advantages.
      2023 pole: 77.7 seconds
      2014 pole: 74.3 seconds

  • @jfm0155
    @jfm0155 Před 4 měsíci

    Do they have plates on for Daytona?

  • @mikeadams2677
    @mikeadams2677 Před měsícem

    Too bad you can't get Bill Elliott's #9 Thunderbird that he broke the speed records in at Talladega and Daytona, back in 1987 to run against both of these cars. They had that car running like a rocket sled on rails!!
    212.809 mph at Talladega and 210.364 mph at Daytona

  • @King1614
    @King1614 Před měsícem

    Is this rfactor2?

  • @wickedgood1984
    @wickedgood1984 Před 3 měsíci

    The problem with this whole simulation is that the gen 6 car is a solid axle drive train where the transmission is attached to the engine and use an drive shaft to turn a solid rear axle. and the gen 7 is a rear transaxle setup where the transmission is in the rear with independent rear suspension and a torque tube run from the engine to the transmission in the rear. I don’t think this simulator takes in to account either of those setups. So this isn’t really a good setup. I’d say the closest we could get is iracing. Or comparing actual live data

  • @twandepan
    @twandepan Před 4 měsíci

    this voice is much less annoying than the other one, nice!

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci

      We are doing our best to make it sound as natural as possible!

  • @RealJohnWayne
    @RealJohnWayne Před 2 měsíci

    They're 20+ mph slower than Bill Elliott was at Daytona and Talladega in 1987, and did you know there was no "Big One?" @NASCAR 👍 🇺🇸

  • @Med_41
    @Med_41 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Is the 2014 cup car faster and a GTE from 2014?

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci

      Hmm 🤔

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Excellent question. It's likely GTE was a tiny bit faster at technical tracks, such as Sonoma. But of course in ovals where horsepower matters (or maybe even high speed road courses), GTE would possibly lose. The only shared data is...GTE is based off GT2, and GT2 ran in Sonoma several years prior to 2014. Their lap times were:
      Pole: 1:34.263
      Race lap: 1:35.112.
      The only time Gen 6 ran the full circuit was 2019, which was reduced horsepower and downforce:
      Pole: 1:34.598
      Race lap: 1:37.194
      To compare 2005 GT2 with 2014 GTE, at Road America, GTE ran a 2:03 where GT2 ran a 2:08.
      So a rough prediction would be GTE running a low 1:30s and 2014 Cup running a low to mid 1:30s.

    • @Med_41
      @Med_41 Před 3 měsíci

      @v8ramair145 more even than I thought. Although it makes sense, cup has more hp, and the GTE has more downforce.

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci

      @Med_41 I think the biggest problem for Gen 6 is that it weighs several hundred pounds more than a GTE car (~2700 vs ~3300), and GTE has far more mechanical grip, especially since GTE front tires are 13 inches wide and rears are 14. Gen 6 only had 12 inch wide tires all around. Much harder for grip with less tire and that much more weight. However, as far as downforce, I'm guessing Gen 6 has more at 200 mph (3500 lb, per articles in 2014, which means it could drive upside down at 200 mph), but I wonder what the comparison is at say 100 mph.

  • @jonnysteventoaladelgado9110
    @jonnysteventoaladelgado9110 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Genial

  • @epicmotorsport856
    @epicmotorsport856 Před 4 měsíci +2

    2014: 13 winners
    2024: 19 winners

  • @itzz_mayank013
    @itzz_mayank013 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Compare 2014 with Nascar Le Mans Car

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 4 měsíci

      I would love to see the lap time of the G56 at the Glen. It should beat the 2014 by a margin, but G56 is far from high speeds, so 2014 would destroy it on a high speed oval.

  • @Rhett_Kierbow
    @Rhett_Kierbow Před 3 měsíci

    Even the drivers are upset because they want more horsepower

  • @korbinsworld24
    @korbinsworld24 Před 3 měsíci

    I don't think this takes all differences into account. The new car has wider tires, much better brakes, and better suspension. Daytona is accurate, and the intermediate is probably close. The short track and road course would probably go to the new car because of the added grip and stopping power.

  • @user-jf4nj3ez2k
    @user-jf4nj3ez2k Před 4 měsíci

    Yep..it sure has

  • @Jdog2201
    @Jdog2201 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Gen 4 was the best imo but early Gen 6 was good as well

  • @JacobCraigo
    @JacobCraigo Před měsícem

    Man whoever made the Next-Gen car model (or adapted it for Assetto Corsa from something else) needs to increase it's size. The cars are roughly the same size as the previous generation, but that thing looks *tiny* compared to the Gen 6 car.

  • @gabriel2633
    @gabriel2633 Před 3 měsíci

    2014 é meu favorito

  • @miuqana
    @miuqana Před 4 měsíci

    I'm not surprised, lesse aero, less hp and more weight on the Gen 7.

  • @jaymartin4166
    @jaymartin4166 Před 3 měsíci

    The fans noticed the punk car's as well. I have street car's that will run faster than their junk for less than $100,000.

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci

      Agree, and the sad thing is nascar doesn't seem to care. I remember when this car came out 2 years ago. It was either Harvick or Hamlin who was appalled at how slow they were. They said it was even slower than the truck series.

  • @beatbox_one_and_two4462
    @beatbox_one_and_two4462 Před 2 měsíci

    So racing hp in general is going up but nascar is going down?

  • @rustybrown1044
    @rustybrown1044 Před 3 měsíci

    My thing is you put kilometers up there NASCAR's America miles per hour

  • @user-Dr.
    @user-Dr. Před 3 měsíci

    Go back to 95, even faster yet, I built a road racing car out of a 93 Camaro, it's about 300 pounds lighter than the cup cars, I built the original gen 2 LT1 to 625 NA HP my best lap on the Glen is 1:16.244, I never thought to compare it before, I can't believe how much money they have into these cars to make sure that they are very slow.

  • @Ochoduckie
    @Ochoduckie Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wait, you’re telling me that the Gen 6, with its solid rear axle, smaller brakes, higher profile tire and archaic steering box is hitting the same braking points AND going faster through the turns at Watkins Glen than a NextGen? I can believe the oval speed difference, but there’s too much going against the Gen 6 to not think there’s some shenanigans afoot.

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Braking zones should be less for NextGen, but considering the less downforce, I can buy similar turn speeds because Watkins Glen has high speed turns. BUT, even in slow speed technical tracks like Sonoma, NextGen still is multiple seconds slower than Gen 6. If you compare lap times, NextGen is a big disappointment in terms of raw speed. I'm wondering if also Goodyear has something to do with it.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci +1

      The Next Gen is considerably slower at the Glen. The only thing that does better is the braking (as you saw on the Bus Stop) the therorical qualy lap times are based on real lap times

    • @alanjohnson911
      @alanjohnson911 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Come to find out, you can't replace HORSEPOWER and the Gen 6 cars handled great

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @alanjohnson911 I wholeheartedly agree. Which is why I quit watching NASCAR after 2014. However, an interesting observation: I overlayed the Hendrick Track Attack Gen 6 car with 850+ hp with the G56 car when they both ran at VIR, with their in-car laps. I cannot believe how much better the handling of G56 is compared to Track Attack. Although the Track Attack did get down the straights much faster, it is beast to handle that much HP at a place like VIR. But of course, that's also why 2014 racing made it rely heavily on driver skill.

    • @alanjohnson911
      @alanjohnson911 Před 3 měsíci

      @@v8ramair145
      When I say Gen 6 cars handled great, in context I should've worded it......handled great for a non independent rear suspension, non-coilover shocks, solid axles and recirculating ball steering (non rack/pinion). For the suspension technology carried over from the 60s-70s obviously with more modern technology updates, it handled very good...not to mention when trying to hook up 950 HP.

  • @Lark_36
    @Lark_36 Před 4 měsíci

    what game is this

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The gen 7 certainly looks better.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 4 měsíci

      But it is slower by 33kph and is 19kgs heavier than Gen 6.

    • @packisbetter90
      @packisbetter90 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Gen 7 would look better to me if the numbers were in the middle

  • @getthegaff1
    @getthegaff1 Před 3 měsíci

    Gen 6 by a long shot.

  • @4_14_fan
    @4_14_fan Před 3 měsíci

    This is what I keep saying with the gen 7, stop taking away horsepower and downforce, theres no excuse for this car to be as slow as it is, we could have record setting lap times every week with 950 horsepower and full aero package

  • @nathan1sixteen
    @nathan1sixteen Před 3 měsíci +1

    While I’m sure the 2014 car is faster, putting the 2024 car constantly in dirty air doesn’t make this a fair comparison. I’m not gonna go and look up qualifying speed for the 2 cars, but, you can visibly see the Next Gen getting tight at Bristol as it can’t wrap the bottom. Also, the improved braking performance at Watkins Glen wasn’t shown at all. The Gen 7 car can drive WAY deeper into the corner than the 2014 Gen 6, so it should be able to close that gap SIGNIFICANTLY versus what we saw here.
    Again, the 2014 rules package was great and I’m sure it was faster than the Next Gen, but this comparison isn’t fair.

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The qualifying times are in the video under "theoretical lap times". Those numbers are actual qualifying times from the real cars. Gen 7 is multiple seconds slower.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 3 měsíci

      ☝🏻 You could clearly see the NextGen braking a lot later at the Bus Stop

    • @toddc6682
      @toddc6682 Před 3 měsíci

      Wake up & smell the smelling salts. Look around. Old stuff is better than new stuff!

  • @chipmiller3155
    @chipmiller3155 Před 3 měsíci

    It's getting slower, just like the fans

  • @andrereaves2712
    @andrereaves2712 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The older car is a wiggly thing

  • @mojmoj3763
    @mojmoj3763 Před 3 měsíci

    asphalt limited late models shouldnt have as much horsepower as a cup car..

  • @rouge4736
    @rouge4736 Před 4 měsíci +3

    IN 2034 THE 2024 WILL LOOK FAST

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 Před 4 měsíci +3

      In 2034 they'll be hybrids with >1000.

    • @gregrowe1168
      @gregrowe1168 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Probably be like F1, turbo V6 engines that make a ton of hp.

  • @bruceholloway1123
    @bruceholloway1123 Před 4 měsíci

    2014 I washed all the old races. I didn’t realize NASCAR’s got slower of the years reminder dude you did this with Ford Maybe try this on a Chevy or Toyota to see if that’s her actually has gotten slower

  • @rvegasguy_5216
    @rvegasguy_5216 Před 3 měsíci

    They dont add horse power bc the new gen car cant handle it

  • @Whyteeford
    @Whyteeford Před 3 měsíci

    The 2014 is WAY to loose

  • @jorggamingcr409
    @jorggamingcr409 Před 4 měsíci +1

    After watching this video NASCAR decided to remove 100hp more from current gen cars...jk jk

  • @klayshotter
    @klayshotter Před 4 měsíci +1

    Look at all the Americans crying 😂😂

  • @ragingrac3ryt8942
    @ragingrac3ryt8942 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love to see my favorite year of gen 6 absolutely DECIMATE the Nextgen

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 Před 4 měsíci +1

    NASCAR vs American V8 Supercars

    • @derbyjr
      @derbyjr Před 4 měsíci

      So Trans Am?

    • @griffinfaulkner3514
      @griffinfaulkner3514 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@derbyjrIf they use a TA1 car, then even a Gen 6 car is gonna get annihilated. Those things are some of the most genuinely unhinged race cars I've ever seen, and the ones that use a single-exit exhaust put even the old X-pipe boom tube cars to shame.

    • @THEWINDTUNNEL
      @THEWINDTUNNEL  Před 4 měsíci

      You might find this interesting:
      czcams.com/video/Smz_SNqlyDQ/video.html
      czcams.com/video/Z8wSqavkRlw/video.html

  • @anggr4549
    @anggr4549 Před 3 měsíci

    Most tracks they have 510 now .this is fake

  • @hotlc_jde
    @hotlc_jde Před 3 měsíci

    Yep, the nascar vehicles get all worse

  • @purplestrawberrysunset
    @purplestrawberrysunset Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's theoretical not theorical btw. But i like the fusion more.

  • @burntheobedient4473
    @burntheobedient4473 Před 3 měsíci

    I stopped watching when you displayed kmh over mph.

  • @dirtyair6305
    @dirtyair6305 Před 3 měsíci

    Current car has more HP at Daytona, Talladega and Atlanta. Current car also has faster corner speeds. And at road courses it torches the old car on handling alone. Very misleading video

    • @v8ramair145
      @v8ramair145 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Can you then explain why this new car is over 2 seconds slower at one of the slowest technical tracks, sonoma? And over 2 seconds slower at Watkins Glen? NextGen is slow and the video is not misleading.

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 Před 3 měsíci

      It depends if it's an early gen 6 or a late gen 6 car, they have completely different horse power number.s

  • @GabrielMenezes-qb4vc
    @GabrielMenezes-qb4vc Před 4 měsíci +1

    First ?

  • @310chris18
    @310chris18 Před 3 měsíci

    Nascar sucks now miss those 900hp days

  • @chase9812
    @chase9812 Před 3 měsíci

    900+ HP Always!!! Look at the stands! No one wants to see slow ugliest cars ever!!!

  • @bobwhite9873
    @bobwhite9873 Před 3 měsíci

    Nascar sucks, don't their engines run on corn now? Go figure.

  • @9078roman
    @9078roman Před 3 měsíci

    NASCAR 3030: 155HP. It's incredible!!!