Explaining the First Half of Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice's Story
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"My Lord, I've come for you. This, will only take a moment."
3 days, 2 controllers and 1 nervous breakdown later......
I was up till like 2 am fighting Genichiro until finally beating him. Never was more happy.
Genichiro is super easy if you can deflect and dodge all while being aggressive as well. His posture is so easy to rape.
@@davidstanfield9790 So basically be good at the game ?
I got stuck on genichiro and literally restarted the game. Then fire emblem came out and I never went back. I’ll beat this game...eventually
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I heard you guys like lore
Yes papa Vaati feed us lore
WE REALLY LIKE Lore
I like lore but i like crying lore more.
yes indeed
more plz
I felt a stab of depression every time you mentioned "in the DLC to come."
Yep, no DLC for this game sadly.
CerpinTxt87 Ikr I wonder why tf there’s no DLC, the game was really successful and a DLC would’ve been great, let’s hope they make sekiro 2 😭💔
@@Mashiris They already said in beginning there wouldn't be dlc. It's because they have other projects ongoing. We are getting a gauntlet update in october which is gonna be awesome.
Boy have i got news...
@@i_havethe_highground3955 ? Explain?
6:40 The sheer upper body strength of this like 9 year old child, lifting this big-ass burning beam up and delivering his whole Shakespeare death scene monologue then presumably dragging an entire adult man out from under the same beam, which is still on fire. I suppose we're lucky he decided he needed a soldier and didn't just take off south to go beat genichiro's face in with the fucking beam.
This comment needs more likes
he cant be damaged by normal means
Please dont say the f word like that
@@giovannicorraliza8552 is your mum monitoring your youtube browsing lad
to be fair wolf is like 5'1
Patiently waiting on the lore explanation on how Isshin got a Glock 19 in 16th century Japan.
An asspull that transcends time and space. The spear's asspull only transceded space BTW.
Time is convoluted in Ashina 😁
@@mohammedalrabee4275 lol its like a russian doll, isshin comes out of genichiro and a fuckoff spear comes out of isshin
Maybe he got it from robert's father
Quantum technology
Has anyone else noticed that the style for Sekiro, his hair style and clothing, seems to be an amalgamation of a shinobi, a samurai and a monk. I don't think that it's a coincidence that you learn how to fight as all three in the game.
Coat of a monk, the arm bindings of samurai and the shirt and pants of a shinobi
Wolf is so damn versatile it's scary. That fact that the character is able to take down enemies from master samurai to straight up demons is great
All Shinobu are samurai. But not all samurai are shinobi..
@@christianruvalcaba7788 Can you explain how this makes sense? The two were diametrically opposed in a number of ways.
@@stormjoe505 you're thinking of the shinobi clans. Known for guerrilla warfare. But certain regiments of samurai are also called shinobi. They do the same, but the samurai versions are more into espionage and sabotage. I don't remember which group is older. But if I remember correctly, some of the ninja clans assimilated into the samurai.
"Once more, you're defeated through treachery". No, that guy kicked my ass fair and square the first time.
Bernardo Osorio haha im sure 99% did
@@hugomartinez4482 99% means 1 out of 100 players beat Genichiro when just starting the game. I think that's totally impossible.
Vince Yutuc i think he meant the opposite
@xBirds At the start of the game? Genichiro's super easy at the start. I managed to kill him. Well "kill", you still get your arm cut off, but at least you get the satisfaction of beating his ass.
@xBirds I was referring to the very first encounter, at the start of the game, where he cuts off your arm. No mikiri counter available yet, although it's not really necessary. That first encounter with him is super easy. The second encounter is not much harder either, though, took me 2 or 3 tries in total.
"The DLC to come" hurts deep in 2021. I wish badly that we had gotten proper DLC for this game. There's so much more story to tell in this world, and I don't think I could ever get enough of this game's combat.
I hope they somehow implement a similar fighting style in Elden Ring
I hope they will continue to do a second game of it after elden ring.
Idm not having any dlc but i do want this to be continued as its a grear world
@@DerDevos Have you not seen the gameplay trailer? They didn't.
The only changed Fromsoft added to (physical) combat is the counter-attack (R2) immediately after blocking and attack.
Other than that, From seem to have focused more on Magic and (I would assume) Miracles balancing and making them [more] useful in combat.
@@Ancor_Vantian I was more thinking about a weapon/weapon art, but it probably is a bit wishful thinking
@@DerDevos Ah!, I see what you mean.
Well, you have the... Wolf-sword(is it?) look-alike weapon from the trailer.
That one seem to have a weapon art that quick-dashed the playable character towards the enemy, and finished it with a backflip that pushed the player away
I don't doubt there will be more like those in the game.
Probably for most curved swords.
We'll have to wait and see.
For Vaati this must be like Christmas. Finally a Fromsoft game where he can use freecam without getting banned.
Are you sure you're not a stand?...
MA. MA THERE'S A WEIRD FUCKING CAT IN THE YARD
@@patch-fm just use your hand and pet it.
He should just do his footage from a pirated version since they wanna be dicks
@@mythicalthings1796
Stray cat!
"The curse of immortality" seems to be a common theme in From Soft games. This thread runs through Dark Souls, Bloodborne and now Sekiro. It kinda makes it fun to think that these games are all in the same universe.
PieSky FlyGuy wonder how it will be incorporated into the norse game?
well i hope it is?!
From Software, Makers of Immortal Universe
they need this to justify your deaths. What they want to do is to make a game that remains always consistent with the story they want to convey, so that all the game mechanics, enemy locations and items uses can serve as clues to discover the story. In that goal, they obviously need something to justify that your character dies and keeps coming back, as the game itself requires it
It's been said that all the dark souls games are predating blood-borne. And that there is evidence of this in blood-borne in the chalice dungeons where you see old corpses of dead men in knight like armor. Something you don't see anywhere else in blood-borne. also the dark souls series is could easily take place during the medieval times which is between the 5th century ad and the 15th century ad. Which easily predates Victorian England which is the inspiration for the setting of blood-borne. Which began in the 1800's and ended in the early 1900's. which is perfect because sekiro shadows die twice can fit right in between the two as the heir of the samurai began in the 1600 and ended in the 1800.
@@chrislopez7395 It's pretty much confirmed that Dark Souls and Bloodborne take place in different universes, although there is an argument to be made that the world of Bloodborne is the new painted world created at the end of DS3, painted with the blood of the dark soul. Sekiro on the other hand has many indications that it is related to Bloodborne beyond themes of cursed immortality. Blood granting immortality, centipede living inside people, transcendental beings living in pocket dimensions (dreams/divine realms) that bestow immortality to a chosen champion or heir, squid people, the list goes on. I personally believe that those two games take place in the same world.
Vaati: calmly tells a story of political strife and bloodshed.
Gyobu: MYYYYY NAAAAAAMMMMMMEEEE!!!!
This is got to be the best line in game, English or not. The mans voice is a gem that goes unnoticed by most...
I wont play thru this game in English because it just doesn't feel right, but I do wish I could turn it to English just for that line lmao.. That voice actor fucking NAILED IT
IS GYOBU MASATAKA ONIWAAAAA
gyobu gets close to youre ear then you go deaf souronding you is dust the last thing you here is MY NAME IS GYOBU MASATAKA ONIWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cool detail they put there
"This will probably be covered in the DLC"
Prepare to CRY
*HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU DIE AND COME BACK FOR ME? 2-3 TIMES?*
"Y E S"
Lmao 😂😂
*Or peharps a number so large it cannot be counted*
"Also Yes"
Don't forget the very fitting line when you return the Kuro Charm, which makes the game significantly harder:
"Suffering is what I desire."
@@stansmith4432 lol when he said that that's what I said out loud many times
@@dominicp9296 It would've been really funny if Sekiro had a death counter reveal at that point or at the end of the game
I never realized until just now that all the corpses around Memelord Gyobu are Interior Ministry soldiers. Whoops...
He did kill them by himself, only to be killed by our sadboi Sekiro
not really, the corpses of Ashina soldiers are more than the Red Guards.
16:43
Genichiro: Ah shi
Wolf: no swearing
Genichiro: Ashina
Lmfao!
Deep! and neat xD
Legendary
Ah sh*t here we go again
This is the best action/adventure game I've played in my life. The combat (my god the combat), the setting, the story... I just love all of it.
agreed
Now I expect a whole "prepare to cry" series for each side character and area... I cannot wait for what lore lies ahead...
"Shadows Cry Twice"
it'll happen.
And a video on how this connects to Bloodborne and Dark Souls.
Fish sidequest comes to mind
I wish he'd finish his prepare to cry for bloodborne. I'd still love a lady maria prepare to cry.
Ashina land : exists
Sekiro : I'm about to end this man's whole career
ishinn: i can be a little problem for u
Guardian Ape: Hold my beers
Jered Sanders demon of hatred: hold my sake
@@thegravewalker3712 *hold my tea
@@wolfhaley8023 Correction. Guardian ape: Hold my shit!
I love how both Isshin and Genichiro are not vilians. They are like the Wolf they protect what is dearest to them with all strenght they have. Just like the Wolf. The real vilian is Owl who killed his son and betrayed his country for a dream of immortality. If only he knew it's not a blessing but a curse
Genichiro attacks a child and pretty much kills him. He is a villain.
Isshin is cool though. At his worst in the game he tries to fulfill his grandsons final wish.
@candlestone5397 the wolf killed the child at the ending of the game. Is wolf the villain? Wolf also destroyed and killed all of ashina's defenses and Defenders.
I believe wolf, genichiro and ishin are all good guys. And the goals of the shinobi and genichiro are the same, but how they're doing it are diffrent.
@@candlestone5397genichiro did what he did to protect what he loved, wolf killed thousands of people, probably more than genichiro so according to that logic wolf is a supervillain
the goal of Wolf is simply to fulfill his master's wishes and protect him. He was raised to be little more than a tool and doesnt have the same morality we have because of that. he kills around 2-300 people to do that.
Genichiro DOES have the morality we have, and Decides the best way to save his land is to force a child into something. and when that doesnt work he kills the child, and then himself in order to bring back his grandfather while making his last wish to kill The shinobi instead of, you know, the one's who are trying to take the land.
Genichiro is at worst a villain, and at best inept.
@@candlestone5397 everything he did be did for his land
Haters: Sekiro has barebones story!
Vaati: Hold my sake.
*holds sake*
*drinks sake*
*chokes on Monkey Booze*
Holds sake
drinks sake,
Drinks down the Monkey booze
Savors Dragons sake, and munches on the monks candy
Sekiro had a great story and was so much less convoluted then other souls games, especially elden ring , the story in that game is retarded to figure out unless you wanna get 0 bitches or watch CZcams explaining it 😂
the interior ministry is implied to be Tokugawa Ieyasu's faction. their emblems are very similar.
I love how on the surface it has that classic 'last days of the samurai' feel, with the old rulling clans beeing brought to heel by the central regime. Also that it exemplifies the last remnants of devine culture and heritage disapearing because these familys would rather that knowledge died with thier clan as a final act of pride and defiance.
@@blakedoubrava1149 There's also guns everywhere.
Well its only natural since its right after sengoku era so its Tokugawa Ieayasu or Toyotomi Hideyoshi
tobyash92 If From is sticking to historical accuracy it would have to be under the Toyotomi regime because the Date clan wiped out the Ashina back in 1589. At that time Date were aligned with Hideyoshi and he’d banned war for personal gain so its likely this game details Hideyoshi’s punishment of the Ashina remnants
Guns are not too new. They just weren't super practical until the modern age because of the improvements to design. Although I am annoyed with how many seem to be rather advanced.
We need a cinematic camera mod for combat, holy fuck some of the clips in this video were beautiful.
There are probably cinematic camera mods on PC for Sekiro.
I've checked nexus mods for camera mods but I haven't found any.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the footage
@@sblur1737 Try asking Vaatividya on Twitter or Facebook about the mod he used for the camera here.
Check cheat engine tables usually you find camera mods there like for dark souls
the Japanese voice acting was excellent in this.
Better than the English voice acting
Yeah and having English in a Japanese theme game just doesn’t fit sometimes.
This time the English was way better than Japanese for me. I found the voice of owl horrendous in Japanese. And plus its really difficult to read subtitles in a game where it demands your 100% focus during a fight. Normally I always prefer the default language but this time I just didnt feel it in Japanese.
@Criminal Scum I honestly loved every character's voice in English. They did a really good job. Especially owl and genichiro. And yes I agree, sekiro's voice suits his character very well too in English.
@@shreyanshsingh379 The English voice acting was phenomenal as well. Scuptor, Sekiro, Gyobu, Isshin, Owl, Genichiro, all of them had amazing English voice actors.
One fights for his master... The other one for his land
Both are determined to give up everything to achieve their goal no matter the cost.
Makes you wonder about who the antagonist really is, in my opinion.
I love stories like these! Because context matters and depending on how you look at it there can be one antagonist or both or maybe none of them.... Always interesting
12:38 I just love how let Gyobu interrupt your sentence there.
Had me laughing pretty good, well played. xD
MY NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
fuck i didn't even realize he cut him off there. this is beautiful.
Lindwyrm *IS GYOUBU MASATAKA ONIWAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!*
MY NAME IS NOGAMI GENSAI!
Haha what a story teller, Vaati is the man!
"How many times have you died? Twice? Three times? Even more?"
*Distortion2 laughs in the distance*
Lucas M That guy beat the game in less than 24 minutes........and is breaking his own world record on a daily basis.....he’s my hero.
@@jeffbecket2311 its his fking job. Prob makes more than you a year just by playing games.
jeff becket okay Jeff
@@jeffbecket2311 sounds like someone who's jealous
@@jeffbecket2311 How about we just let people play games the way they want to?
Such a great game. I almost gave up during my first play through, frustrated with how little I understood about the combat system.. Glad I didn’t give up because this game has become one of the greatest games I’ve ever played. 10/10
Same I gave up in 2019 and now I finished the game today
Same I gave up in 2021 and now I finished the game today
Dude I'm so grateful for all of your content. Please never stop. Your editing, your voice, your ability to flesh out the stories, retain lore and communicate the plot efficiently blows me away every video. Thank you thank you!! I don't watch alot on CZcams, but your channel is always a staple!
The Interior Ministry is highly likely the central or regional government lead by Tokugawa Ieyasu. The first clue comes straight from the name Interior Ministry, the Kanji version of which is 内府, the position Tokugawa held under Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and how he was referred to by some even afterward (江戸の内府). The second clue is the Kanji version of the Red Guard (赤備). It is a legion in Sengoku era originated from the Takeda clan, and later adopted by Sanada Yukimura (sided with Ishida after Toyotomi) and Ii Naomasa (sided with Tokugawa after Toyotomi). Combined with the previous clue, the Red Guard in Sekiro is probably the legion led by Ii Naomasa sent by Tokugawa. By my interpretation, this piece of lore puts the historical setting of Sekiro between the Battle of Suriagehara (and the demise of Ashina clan) and the end of Sengoku era, which happens to be the period in which Tokugawa was rapidly gaining power.
They also said it takes place at the end of the Sengoku era in pre-release interviews. That's some cool info and connections to history, though.
thanks for the setting info, this actually makes it cooler to put your killings into historical context 😁
Wasn't it battle of sekigahara
Ziliang Lin I like the way you broke that down. I see you mentioned toyotomai hideyasu, you think this game slightly relates to onimusha? Seeing that hideyaso toytsmai was in that as well. Samounuske armor Was red like the interior ministry. The era or setting to this games date back to feudal Japan. And they really have similar names tbh. I mean you have the Okinaga flame vent and in onimusha you have the main antagonists which is nobunaga oda. You fight demons in onimusha and you fight infested in sekiro (which are demons pretty much) Idk I guess what I’m trying to say is what if sekiro is a back story or something of how demons or infested became to be in the land of Japan. The main antagonists in onimusha dawn of dreams was a demon who was a centipede, And i just feel the games are somehow related to each other.
@@dmo8279 my man you can even link Nioh to these games if you want, it's all about demons and feudal Japan.
I like how Owl's fake dying words are basically Eileen The Crow's final words.
Please don't remind me, Eileens death still makes me sad to this day.
@Jose Carbajal Yeah that's a big no from me fam.
they're both bird-based characters, From thought you wouldn't notice 😂😂
I think it's dope they made a story based off of respawning
This has to spread. Sekiro is not just a hard game. It also has amazing story
Genichiro really needed to learn how to talk things out.
"Drink them, and You may inherit an echo of Kuro's immortality"
Echoes of his blood, you say? Now it's cannon, Sekiro is set in the same world as Bloodborne. Fight me.
Add to this the Vermin being very close to the Undying centipedes. And there was a Bloodletting Beast that was headless with a centipede sticking out its head. And Yamamura, from an "eastern land" having an outfit very similar to Sekiro's. And that Dragon Blood Droplet is sure pale-blood colored...
I wanna see sekiro vs
Lady Maria or Gherman
@@chilairearts4238 It wouldn't work. The characters in Bloodborne and Dark Souls are extremely powerful because they actually do absorb the strength of their defeated foes in the form of blood echoes and souls, which empower their physical and magical abilities to such an extent that they can topple superhuman beings like "gods" and lovecraftian horrors with ease. While there is certainly magic at work in Sekiro, the titular protagonist is still just a normal human who trained himself to accomplish incredible deeds almost entirely through raw skill and d e t e r m i n a t i o n. While the fight would be amazing to witness, especially considering the fact that Sekiro does have the immortal-slaying Mortal Blade, the power discrepancy is far too vast and he wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance against a Hunter or Ashen One.
@@ChunkyTheClown well we'll just wait for sekiro to get a meiji restoration from ds or bb
Curse the children and the children of their children .... You might be on to something
Vaati: This video will end at the midpoint, when you ascend Ashina Castle.
Me at Mibu Village before even going up the castle: Whoops, so that’s where the kid is...
Well, if it's any consolation, you kinda made things easier to yourself going there first and unlocking sculptor statues.
Oh. I never thought we could go there early. I always fight Genichiro first or go to Senpou Temple. But if we head to Mibu Village first, we could fight Shirahagi, then Orin and Corrupted Monk. I wonder what Kuro would say if I already have the Shelter Stone when I meet him in the castle.
“this will take a moment” took 2-3 hours to kill the guy Kappa
Some people took as long as an year
@@shreyanshsingh379 no way.... Unless they quit for an year
@@kartik5876 of course I'm talking about those people
"He will risk his life to take me home. For he...is my Shinobi."
Sekiro arrives with perfect timing, sticking a superhero landing
*Avengers Theme starts playing*
Sekiro: Shadows avenge twice
Perfect
* dies xxx amount of times *
“Perfectly balanced...as all things should be.”
(audience applause break)
I am not a gamer myself but your lore hunting and expositions are amazing. I just watch these to hear the stories. It's astounding how you piece together the story in a cohesive whole and your attention to detail is infinite at times. Thank you for sharing this.
asamvav just imagine how long all the editing takes. Or looking over a finished product then realizing something was left out...starting over.
5:58 Is pretty shocking to hear what a boss is willing to say when they think they’ve won and to hear what they say on their dying breath. And for Sekiro to be constantly seeing this over and over is probably an emotional rollercoaster.
Some of the stuff they’ll say to you as they go on to do whatever they had planned next really shows how much they actually cared about you or at least put emphasis on that fact. But it’s also true that their dying words show how much they didn’t realize they thought about you.
15:02 as many times i had killed an ashina soldier, they had always came back after i rest at a sculptor's idol. So don't blame us. And i always cure dragonrot too.
We need a DLC for Sekiro, or another masterpiece from fromsoft. This AAA company is one of the few that treat games like art, not just a product or cash grab.
I still dislike how you have to say "from from software"
@@shootbob79ps42 I just say from Fromsoft it's easy
@@Ashhley_the_shawty from FS game? From FS?
I want the lore from
RoBeRtOoOoOoO
Pretty sure that story is worthy of a Prepare to Cry.
There was a lore video, can’t remember if it was vaati or not however, it basically states that the amoured knight and his son went to the monks to cure his son from a sickness. The monks were doing experimental techniques and the knight was to pay the monks with guarding the temple. But it was all for nought since Robert was already dead and the only child to survive the process was the girl who gives you rice.
Brandon M. Bruursema there are a handful of youtubers other than vaati that make sekiro lore videos.
@@KawfeeKun Smoughtown
@@KawfeeKun Also, I think his name is Roberto, not Robert. By the look of his armor, the armored knight is portuguese, although the Robert's Firecrackers use the english version of the name...
I'm not sure if it was mentioned in any of your videos, but in the opening trailer, Isshin definitely wields Black Mortal Blade when fighting Tamura (check frame by frame, it has the same guard and handle). I think it is quite important.
Yotsuya - Explains how he has info on it, and perhaps how Genichiro got it. Good eye!
different hilt if you look at it closely
You can tell this game has insanely good animation, when even with free camera, the fights do look like actual good fights. Just brilliant.
Prepare to cry for mist Noble when?
do you mean pot noble? or did I miss something...?
@@NickHunter No! It's The One Who Was Responsible For The Fog In The Mist Forest That We Killed Inside The House In The Middle Of The Map.
@@NickHunter Nah, Mist Noble's the most overpowered boss FromSoft has ever shat out.
beat Mist Noble after 4 hours and numeral attempts!
@@euphoricstamen9562 used the cheese and it was 20 minutes of fight
Did you cut yourself off on purpose as a joke for Kyobuu? If so, brilliant.
I wouldn't say so...
Gyobou
@@ujjwalmishra8962 its Gyoubu
@@xcessiveO_o its gubou
I love thissssss !
Made my day !
This was so enjoyable to watch. I was riveted as your voice & the music combined with the story in a feeling of peace with a tinge of sorrow. What a great introduction.
Just to clartify, those ninjas you fought on the rooftops before Genichiro are actually serving Ashina. I thought they served Owl/Genichiro directly, hence we find them trying to ambush Isshin, but when ministry ninjas invade with Owl, they do fight against them, for the rest of the game. Not to mention they wear Tengu masks and are thus probably led by the guy who requests you exterminate rats to begin with.
The guy who asks you to eliminate rats is Isshin himself.
Also they fight with the blue robed Ashina Elites below the dojo outside Isshin's room if you lure them there so no I don't think they are allied with Isshin.
They are called nightjar ninja by the way
@@indiankid8601emma herself says ingame that Isshin ordered the night jar to put smoke signals on the rooftops (route to secret passage in reservoir)
Nobody:
Genichiro: *Heresy, you say?*
Nobody:
Gyoubu Masataka Oniwa: *MY NAME*
PunkZombie1300 - Samurai shouting out their name & deeds is a long tradition.
If you were smart, you only engaged the enemy as a last resort, falling back from foes you couldn’t beat & intimidating others into submission. After all, most of the enemy soldiers were Ashigaru farmers. IIRC, if you could intimidate the enemy into retreating from your badassititude, you could win without bloodshed.
... of course, the westerners didn’t get (or care about) the memo, and just shot people who came forward for pre-battle boasting.
Did someone say (deeply inhales) H E R E S Y
@@SuperHongTay Waterloo battle i think but not 100% sure
Thank you for saying Sekiro is way more complicated than ppl realize!
It’s like nobody knows what they’re missing out on!
I know. There was a bunch of questions I had when I finished it, and I was thinking there was a good bit to this game's story than people were thinking. Not as weird as Miyazaki's stories, but still there is an interesting story there.
I guess this is a Miyazaki's story just as in the other games, but we just need more time to unravel it, currently, it's still the beginning of the story hunt
The lore just isn't well presented ingame. That's not my fault for not listeting. I skipped all the dialogue in my first playtrough, yet this video is verry interesting to me. Guess a youtuber is a better presenter than a from
@@Kostadin_Arolski Bruh how can you say that lore wasn't well presented in the game when you didn't even read the dialouge???
It doesn't get enough love compared to bloodborne and DS but its better than both of them combined imo
I consider this game a masterpiece! Sekiro has easily become my favorite game.
The way that you use the footage as they speak and how the camera is in a perfect angle is amazing 🤩 now that I'm about to finish the game I realize how enjoyable would have been having the story being told like you present it
Just as I was about to go to bed, you spoil me Vidya.
...same here
Gives me something to do while UMVC3 downloads
Yup
Perfect bedtime story though
I want a Tomoe and Takeru Dlc... accessed like the hirata memory
i want a dlc based on the lady who was the sculptor partner, or at least know more about she
@@arturochaves8240 yeah her name is "kingfisher," and by the looks of it orangutan (sculpter) and her were close given his intense reaction on bringing back her finger after the guardian ape fight. I'd definitely would love a dlc memory as well where you meet orangutan and kingfisher together in the past training in the sunken valley. Perhaps it could build up to a climax where you fight the guardian ape together and you can prevent her death or something. Time is pretty weird in sekiro but something along these isn't too much of a stretch in disbelief.
I'm more for an owl/butterfly/Sekiro DLC maybe in the forest which is actually named after owl's real name. Uzuio or something like that. Or more about the interior ministry/great war of ashina dlc
Dennis Leonardo yeah, its a shame. There is to much lore untouched and propably the dlc wont cover it all.
JunoJupiter GLRR why would you want Tomoes and takerus dick?thats just weird
Gyobu Masataka Oniwa knows how to make an epic entrace.
Me: Wow guardian ape was pretty hard, I hope I get a break now.
Owl: Hold my bell'
Me: Please no more
Isshin: Hold my Sake
Guardian ape is probably my favorite boss fight I’ve ever done,
the Owl fight I spent around 50~ tries on.
I’m scared of Isshin…
@@simonmalmstrom9593 no you will not be scared, but you will be angry and frustrated.
@@UltimateSG15 Hmm idk about that, tbh I havent gotten frustrated or angry at any of the games bosses.
I'm hoping for a Hanbei the Undying "Prepare to Cry"
Edit: Thanks for the likes 👌
There's gonna be a sekiro manga following he's story
@@kohth5027 for real ?
Dicks out for hanbei?
I didn't find out much about hanbei when I played the game but I can definitely say that the sculptor will have a prepare to cry
@@NguyenVuThai yep it'd be out the end of May saw it in an article a few days ago
How long until "Shadows Cry Twice"?
*Does double finger guns
EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
How long until Bloodborne 2? Never.
@@grubbybum3614 I mean it doesn't really link in with what I said but thank you for the contribution
@@joshuanewey9334. Yeah, I read it as you were asking when a Sekiro sequel will hapoen
@@grubbybum3614 The game is called "Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice", Vaati has a series called "Prepare to Cry" about Dark Souls lore, which links in with Dark Souls: Prepare to Die edition. So you see where I was coming from now.
We are still waiting for The Second Half
Only some of this sank in during my first playthrough and I was pretty thorough. This is awesome, thanks for compiling all this lore in such an entertaining manner, I know it probably took a ton of work to get all that extra footage
So glad I can finally know what Iv been doing for the past 4 weeks
N M 😂😂
There's already lore videos that have covered this content for weeks.
I know right 😂
they are not retarded per se i think but they are definitely autistic. there's a difference. either way, it's sad...
I'm pretty sure that Owl NEVER planned for Wolf to survive Hirata Estate. From my understanding, it was completely outside of his expectations for a stray orphan he picked up to eventually become Lord Kuro's shinobi. At that point, it's most likely that Owl did not have extensive knowledge of the immortality granted by the Dragon's Lineage, and simply desired to obtain power via temporary cooperation with the Interior Ministry.
That's why both Great Shinobi Owl and Owl (Father) are suprised to see you alive. The whole tragedy of Hirata was by his design... With the sole exception of Wolf coming out of it alive.
The text from the Owl Father memory suggests that he definitely did not intend for Wolf to die at the Hirata estate. It describes Owl's views on Wolf, while he did take wolf on on a whim he grew to love him in his own way and hoped to one day duel him to the death.
Pretty much confirms that sekiro was not supposed to die there and in fact was not even supposed to be in the estate.
The text ends with "he got his wish, if only in an old memory"
@@robadc Precisely. Think about it. The real Owl actually DID battle Sekiro, so what is the ending of that text supposed to mean?
But this is the memory of the "past" Owl, and what it means is probably something along the lines of: even though Owl grew attached to Wolf and wished for such a battle, his plan required Wolf's death, and so the opportunity of a duel was lost forever.
But in this old memory, you change the outcome and give Owl what he wanted. Remember that Owl, as a Shinobi, is not ruled by emotions and attachment. He can block it all out in order to achieve his goal. That is why he simply assassinated Sekiro in the past, and why he is surprised to see him survive (both in the memory and in the real world), and why the Lone Shadow in the memory is surprised to see you too. The plan was definitely to kill you.
@@IlluvatarPaladin My theory on it was that Owl purposefully lured Wolf away from the estate in an effort to spare him. When Wolf showed up it was a major miscalculation and he was forced to access the situation (faking his death, we know Owl has a penchant for manipulation).
When Wolf fought and killed Lady butterfly it was a step too far and he was forced to intervene and kill him.
I suspect he wanted his duel with Sekiro while he was still in his prime, to have it be a true duel. Atop Ashina castle the Owl we find is older, slower, weaker than he used to be. From what we know about the Owl, that's not what he would've wanted.
@@robadc actually here's his plan. He sent out Sekiro to a mission, leaving Kuro and the Hirata Estate vulnerable to any attack. If you explored the Estate and found out the guy in one of the shack he will tell you that you were nowhere to be found when things go south. Implying that he was suppose to guard Kuro personally and the area as well. But due to the fact he was still under Usui, the Owl's command he should still accept orders from him.
With the whole estate left vulnerable, Usui finally executed the raid. Also the guy in the shack knows that the whole scene is just an act in order to kidnap Kuro with him saying that you're a traitor.
Sekiro, without knowing that he became a vehicle for the whole scene. Him without knowing that the raid was conducted by his Father, set out to save Kuro from below which is a trap. You see, Lady Butterfly knew that Owl was into something really bad, and she intervenes by having Kuro downstairs. (Who knows perhaps she also wants the immortality, or she was to keep Kuro from Owl).
She acts aggressively as she knew you were set to go down to kill her so that the Owl could kill you and have Kuro.
The only flaw in this theory is that if Owl stabbed Sekiro after the fight then why not get Kuro, it's his perfect opportunity. Perhaps, his time ran out and Genichiro and his troops was already there to save Kuro. Or Owl was into some real shit plotting into something that would make him the hero of the story and the whole political campaign rather than a shinobi killing a child.
Also why Owl wants you to betray and kill Kuro if he can kill the kid by his own from the very start and at the rooftop in-game.
So many loose ends, feel free to correct and present new theories they are fun
@@robadc Yeah, he was probably just going to inform Wolf of Kuro's death post-fact and have him join the team instead. But then again, the Lone Shadow does say you're supposed to be dead, so who knows what Owl's exact idea was...
UNLESS, the Lone Shadow was the one who stabbed Wolf after he killed Lady Butterfly, and Owl only arrived after Wolf and Kuro were gone. Which would kinda explain why Owl didn't interfere in the fight and how Wolf survived without Owl's knowledge. That would also perfectly explain what the Lone Shadow says when you arrive at the memory: he thinks you should be dead because HE was the one stabbing you!
been watching your videos for awhile now. I am certain that i would of never played through any of these games without you, thanks alot man.
Genichiro: I give up my humanity wolf!
(puts on stone mask)
Your editing has gotten so excellent man, well done. The timing of the music and sound effects in tandem with your voice is stellar, adds a lot of atmosphere.
12:21
ah from software
made us feel bad for the enemies and made us feel like the real bad guys
They've had somewhat of a history of that. Examples: Great Grey Wolf Sif, Artorias of the Abyss, Crossbreed Priscilla, Midir, Lady Maria of the Clocktower, do I need to go on?
@@hernehaugen6878 i didnt feel bad fighting Maria. She did horrible things to many people for greedy reasons and tried to hide it from the rest of reality.
The REAL sad boss is Gascoigne. He does all he can to keep from going mad while defending the church, but the blood makes him kill his wife. Its even more sad if you did his daughters questline
@@HavikXIII Oh fuck. You win this one mate, good on ya. I always forget about the good Father.
My true master wasn't neither Shinobi owl or Lady Butterfly. It was the Undead Warrior at the Dilapidated Temple. That guy teached me EVERYTHING in this game, and i was literally in tears when he finally asked me to put an end to his misery.
TheKrustaceoX That was a genuinely touching moment. I can’t even imagine what a release that must have been for Hanbei. Never being able to die and having to live with the guilt of surviving his own master. A truly bittersweet end to his tale. Amazing how from can craft such a likeable character who on the surface seems to be nothing more than a “combat trainer”
Fuck you for spoiling
17:19
"i reject my humanity, JoJooooooo!"
It is a JoJo reference so I won't ask if that is a JoJo reference
"an indeterminable amount of time", doesnt the flashback to Hirata literally say three years?
Yes, the first NPC there mentions it
Yeah I noticed that too, sekiro states it was 3 years ago
I thought he was referring to how long he was sitting there
@@donet0death240 nah
It could be wolf years.
ROBERTTTTTTTTOOOOO. This demands a video of its own.
Legends say he’s still falling.
@@BigBossIvan You can feel the moment he hits the ground after killing him tho :D
@@zeratai2465 he breaks the ground and continue falling
Exactly what I've been thinking through all the lore info we get. Lady Tomoe is such an interesting character that I felt her in some way as important as (if not more important than, in this case) as Lady Maria. So I really hope we get a DLC revolving around her, maybe a sort of remembrance like the Hirata Estate we access through the Buddha offering.
Honestly, i didn't expect this game to be this badass. Exiting fighting mechanics and an amazing story line. I just love it.
You HAVE to bring Tomoe Gozen to the next video. I'm 99% sure the Tomoe in the game is based on her. I mean a female Japanese general that fought with a big bow on her back? While in the game she was Genichiro's mentor and Genichiro fight with a big bow on his back? Plus, she was born in the same time of the real Ashina clan in the history.
I was just wondering when will Vaati release sekiro lore video, I consider this video a gift from the sky
Gift from the Divine Child of Rejuvenation.
12:36 i love it how he get interupted by the marvelous GYOBU MASATAKA ONIWA and just go along being silent the whole time throughout his introduction
Wow, the editing and writing of this video is professional level. So impressed!
if Tomoe DLC happens she is gonna be fkn Friede+L.Maria kickass, prepare your Anor to get rekt
fire, frost and now lightning will kick your ass many times
Great video man. Always been a big fan of your work!
This video is brilliantly edited and captivating to watch. Thanks for making this.
Man I only just got into Sekiro and while browsing CZcams for videos about the game I came across your channel and absolutely love it.
I've got hundreds of subscriptions but this is definitely one of the fastest.
Keep up the amazing work.
there mouth moving...
This is not FROM SOFTWARE game.
Yes, but it's not synchronous with the dialogue, so it's still alright.
I think From would digress. Lol.
Mouths have move before, as I recall some characters on Dark Souls 2 had it
@@marcel7922 I mean it's probably synched with Japanese and not English...
@@PunkZombie1300 it desynce in some voice lines. Its like watching iron monkey or some other import movie
THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS
Finally i can understand sekiros story theres so much information and lore its hard to get a grasp but oh so rewarding when you do! thank you vaati for putting the story together!
Holy shit I didn’t realize how much of a favor I did for myself not changing the dialog to English
Actually, what's interesting about Sekiro, and presumably the reaction of the fans, is that the PLOT of Sekiro is much more complicated than Dark Souls, whereas Dark Souls had much more complicated lore. But unlike Dark Souls 2, which also had a complicated plot, Sekiro delivers it in a phenomenally interesting and less confusing way. Pretty much everything you find, really furthers to expand the plot of the game, rather than the specifically the lore. Almost everything you find is critical to understanding the core plot of the game better. But an important aspect of this is that the core plot, without further investigation, is simple enough that you can understand the basics of what's going on, without further exploration (aside from a few bizarre things that happen). When you fully investigate and 100% the game, everything unfolds to show you all the reveals and twists of the main plot line. Another thing to point out is that even the SECRETS are paced in an interesting way. It's almost like there is a b plot, a c plot, and a subtext that is all paced in parallel to the pacing and reveals of the main plot.
A perfect example: The purple shinobi at hirata estate. The first time you encounter this character MIGHT be the first time you encounter a shinobi of this kind at all and additionally, you might not even realize who this fella is when encountering him. It's not till much later in the MAIN plot, that you are given direct facts that these purple buddies are Interior Ministry SCUM (however, exploring secrets can reveal hints to this ahead of time). Now what's interesting about the pace of this reveal is this: The 1st ministry shinobi, found in the hirata estate, is a secret to begin with and entirely missable AND you discover before finding out he's a ministry shinobi. So you might have people that discover the secret, wonder what it's about, and then entirely forget about it when they learn that the purple dudes are ministry shinobi. It takes either a reason to return to the hirata estate and fight the enemy again (like in a second playthrough) to make you re-discover the truth (this time equipped with the information that he's a ministry shinobi), OR for you to remember that the purple dude was AT the hirata estate, at the time it is revealed to you that the purple dudes are ministry. In the second scenario, at the same time you learn who the purple dudes are, it clicks in your brain that the ministry were behind Hirata estate also. Because of this pacing, the discovery of the truth behind harata estate is IMMENSELY satisfying. It provides players that find these well paced secrets, the satisfaction of feeling like they discovered the truth themselves. On the other hand, it can give players that hold of on hirata estate, or return on a second play through, a sense of reveal.
But the kicker about that example, among many of the potential examples of secrets and pacing in Sekiro, is that virtually ALL of it is directly related to the main plot. Basically: Dark Souls has a simple plot, with some secret subtext, and A LOT of secret lore which gives you new outlooks on the main plot. Simple plot + secret lore with subtext. But Sekiro is more like this: Seemingly simple plot but with secrets that ADD to the plot directly. The more you explore dark souls, the more you learn about the world, which gives you insight to the pretty straight forward plot. The more you explore sekiro, the more a much more complicated and intricate plot unfolds.
100 % agree
Bloodborne lore 👀
Wow great post
@@MTLGSE thanks, I had forgotten I wrote that
Nobody:
Vaati: Psst... hey, kid... wanna listen to some lore?
Nobody:
You: unfunny overused joke format
Nobody:
You: Triggered over a random comment on yt
Will there ever be a second half
"The DLC to come..." :(
It's so weird to hear the English voice acting . Because I played though the game twice on Japanese voice acting.
Edit: Damn, 115 likes. More than i have ever got :D ty
Me too, my first two playthroughs are with Japanese voices, but I'm planning on playing NG+ and NG++ using English voices.
Gyobu masataka oniwa is a madman with English synchro x)
@@AscendantStoic Yea, maybe i'll do that too, with the other 2 endings. Just need motivation to play the game twice all over again :p
Japanese audio sounds more authentic on gyoubu imo
"WARE! Oniwa Gyoubu Masataka nari!!" sounds a lot better than "MYYYYYY NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME"
Vaati i need you to make a lore video that explains how the guardian ape is able to poopoo without peepee. We need this
There's quite a bit of liquid covering that battlefield though. Just sayin'.
easy. He shoves his hand up his butthole and grabs the poopoo from inside.
Maybe his dick has a problem :v
All of these are valid explanations
Same way he can run around while holding his own head.... P..C...P, that wet, dust, dip, amp, vitamin p, god hier's dragon blood for ya blood my man. That good stuff, wooweee! Make ya feel good, is good, real good, in the neighborhood.
This video must've been an insane amount of work! It's glorious. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the vast amount of lore in all of these from software games. Definitely got me hooked as a lore seeker searching for amazing lore to epic stories
Great game,here's hoping it will have a DLC expansion too.
works with only one of the endings ( the "let's go west" one), so how to transfer the other endings into expansion ?
"naah, you did the game wrong" as the expansion starting point for those with shura and other final decisions is not satisfying IMHO
Most likely through bells. They could do a lot with memories like Hirata
I just want wolf to go to yharnam since it takes place in the same universe and he went west
@@pronewun5832 well, the wolf doesnt survive every original ending or is on killing spree or he is some thousand kilometers apart from Japan. so unless the dlc is totally different in story or timeline i sense some problems.
@@rivenoak the DLC would likely be extra areas and bosses that just add to the timeline in the centre of the game, rather than adding on to the end
Could you imagine what would have happened if Kuro & Sekiro sided with the Ashina and embarked on a quest to stop the Interior Ministry instead?
I desire this.
Void agreed... hopefully we get lots of content
Unfortunately, the historical fiction nature of the game makes that impossible, as cool as it would be. The Sengoku period was marked by the domination of the Tokugawa dynasty, which slowly absorbed the warring factions through diplomacy and war. Ashina cannot survive, despite all its power and the might of Sekiro, because of how many people and how many resources the Empire brings to bear on its enemies.
It would not end with you fighting a dragon though
@@moredetonation3755 Nobunaga* It was Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi who did most of the work. Tokugawa came to power after Hideyoshi kicked the bucket, the sengoku period ended before the establishment of the Tokugawa shogunate.
Once again an amazing video from your channel. From Software games have the most fascinating stories i have come across in gaming. You can criticize how they tell them and that a lot of players will never fully grasp them, because they are hidden and you have to find out on your own. But the way they do it and the way it all comes together when watching your videos is in a weird way the best thing i have ever experienced in gaming. I play these games very slowly, read every text, try to connect all the dots. A lot of them where clear, but others where not. It is like opening your eyes, and for the first time you can finally see the whole picture. And it is much more delicate than you ever imagined. I am truly grateful for the beautiful connection you bring to the from software games lore and i don't want it any other way. This is much more satisfying than a game that presents its story in a classical fashion. Very much similar to the difficulty of the games and how your struggle to beat them forges a connection that could otherwise not have been, the way they tell stories makes the connection even stronger. What a time to be alive.
Man I keep coming back to watch your Sekiro lore vids just to remind myself why I love this game so much. 😭😭
I just beat Demon of Hatred😭. And Sekiro knew it was the sculptor. Felt so satisfying
Rah B How did you make him understand? He says no when talking to the old lady.
zEeoN you have to get the sake to have a lot of conversations with the sculptor. Talk to the old lady as much as you can, it’s basically a lot of dialogue you have to have with the sculptor, Emma, and I believe Isshin. But mainly the sculptor
Rah B Thanks! I saw it happen in another unrelated video shortly after by pure happenstance and I only missed one eavesdrop to make it happen myself, it seems. But at least there is no trophy tied to it, so heard is heard ;)
zEeoN yes that’s the only things you have to do but it is satisfying to hear Sekiro’s dialogue when fighting the demon of hatred. It’s just so epic and the fight itself is more than defeating a demon and gaining the memory. But you’re actually saving the sculptor and setting him free
30 minutes ago my heart was distraught that no Vaati video was out. Now I can rest peacefully.
Thank you so much...Top quality as always. Keep on the good work @VaatiVidya
Watching all of these again. This series is so good. Makes me want to g mo back and replay Sekiro again.