How Do VIOLENT MOVIES Impact Us? The Psychology of Stylized Violence

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2019
  • What are the psychological affects of 'cool' violence? In today's Psych Cinema, therapist Jonathan Hetterly analyzes:
    1) Detachment & Desensitization towards violence, and how that doesn't equate with romanticizing violence in real life - 2:32
    2) Sensation-Seeking & Arousal, which is the chemical reaction that occurs during watching violent content - 5:25
    3) Schadenfreude, which is pleasure derived from another's misfortune - 8:49
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  • @ShrinkTank
    @ShrinkTank  Před 5 lety +6

    GIVE US FEEDBACK: What kind of impact does violence in movies have on you? 💭💥👊Comment your thoughts below!

    • @gherieg.1091
      @gherieg.1091 Před 3 lety +1

      To say that violence, especially with realistic issues and themes involved, doesn’t have a deep impact on people is to say that the billion dollar ad industry is based on ... nothing.
      Everything we perceive in life or in art affects our view of, and conditions ( the subconscious directs ) our potential behavior towards, our environment and people surrounding us.
      The impact of art, especially movies, is more profound because we watch with full undistracted attention ... and we don’t get any chance to put a counter narrative pushback while the layers of conditioning are being weaved into our psyche crowding outward parts or all of our already formed set pieces.
      Art impacts the subconscious much more than it does the conscious mind.
      Best to stay away from that Tarantino demon and TV shows like True Blood.
      And brutally violent 😱 video games.

  • @MustacheCashStash125
    @MustacheCashStash125 Před 2 lety +17

    “Movies don’t create psychos. Movies make psycho’s more creative.”
    - Billy Loomis

  • @alvinaeth9393
    @alvinaeth9393 Před 3 lety +4

    great video! love it

  • @em8747
    @em8747 Před 4 lety +23

    I would say that film violence can be used to impact people successfully, directly or indirectly. Look at propaganda films that are designed to make people sympathize with a particular view. I'm not implying that these people go out and commit real acts of violence - but it might formulate their view on the matter and it might make them cheerleaders for those who actually will use violence. This, I argue, is not just about propaganda movies. The impact of violent movies might come out in other forms such as hateful opinions: maybe by being more aggressive in other ways without necessarily going out and committing violence. An example of an opinion easily taken up by the masses is - wishing that criminals should be violently punished, or in some cases, murdered: or whomever our society (media and politics) describes as bad in a given time period. In war, we need people that will use violence easily, thinking it's justifiable. Certain violent movies could also provide a satisfying narrative for this particular thinking.

    • @ShrinkTank
      @ShrinkTank  Před 4 lety +8

      What a thoughtful comment! Thanks so much for sharing your viewpoint. - Mariel

    • @naitai8775
      @naitai8775 Před 4 lety +5

      Like the film inglorious bastards, it’s irony inside the film being heavily violent, and a war film shows how propaganda in nazi Germany brainwashed people in there country into enlisting by films. The German sniper who was praised of killing many and was Made a film after him, like the American sniper I thought that was the right movie to fit your description on propaganda in movies, that it can control minds like if millions watch it or people from that country, state ,hometown there’s gonna be a mass that’s heavily influenced by it, and will seek to become like that person for the renown and social status.

    • @paulv2394
      @paulv2394 Před 2 lety +1

      People in general have become weaker. Violent movies or not.

    • @dardmul
      @dardmul Před rokem +1

      What do you think about HUNTER X HUNTER, and other shonens?

    • @dardmul
      @dardmul Před rokem +1

      @@naitai8775 what do you think about HUNTER X HUNTER , and other shonens

  • @therapyfornerds6020
    @therapyfornerds6020 Před 5 lety +21

    It is an interesting thought. Decades ago the most sensational movies where focused on dancing. Stylized violence particularly violence based around martial arts seems to have replaced that over time. I’m pretty squeamish when it comes to violent movies, but it is still pretty satisfying when the villain gets what it coming to them. For the most part I enjoyed John Wick 3, there was just a few times where I had to look away.

  • @MinnMorke
    @MinnMorke Před 3 lety +7

    Interesting topic, I wasn't familiar with the "stylized" violence term even though I've seen it in several movies over the years. Back when I was younger in the late 70's, some parents were convinced that watching movies with too much sex, violence, drugs etc.. enticed teens to want to copy that behavior. I'm sure there are some parents like that today, too. I definitely think there are situations when parents need to step-in and confront their children when they're watching too much garbage on TV or online. This "binge watching" concept can become way too extreme and unhealthy.

  • @stevenclark9655
    @stevenclark9655 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I watch this video repeatedly to remind myself of my attention-seeking anxiety toward what level of violence I enjoy watching in the movies I love. A movie recommendation I have is you mentioned cartoons, but I would say the dark in something like Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory or The Wizard Of Oz. Movies that at one point had a different rating than what they would have been if made today.

  • @almamater7427
    @almamater7427 Před měsícem

    "movies make bullies. bullies are made from not natural selection and instead through digital selection. it destroys our survival."-charles berkeley

  • @alenngk
    @alenngk Před 4 lety +3

    Love this content ♥ Just now writing about violence and why people like it. I'm here because I'm looking for this paper where this love to gore was described as the human nature. The ability to defend themselfs and be capable of doing what must be done to survive. Exactly that dopamine levels that kept the human kind thousands of years and nowadays normal people can barely know what one is capable of until the very last moment and thus looking for the violent content like the kind of training.

  • @senselessmonkee
    @senselessmonkee Před rokem +2

    Yes if you can retain your sanity watching realistic violence can mostly not impact a person's behavior but as is the case today (2023) sanity with youth especially has taken a serious down turn. With the onset of the pandemic it seems people have come unraveled and probably seriously depressed. Guns and senseless violence are exploding in America and hate crimes are up a lot. The line between fantasy and reality is most likely blurred and movies and games might be encouraging it further.

  • @heikkijhautanen4576
    @heikkijhautanen4576 Před 3 lety +5

    Of cours young People should not see very violent movies, but that demands parents being awake and guiding the Kids how movies are made and that its fantasy like books Etc.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi Před 2 lety +2

      not just explaining them that it's fake, but also providing them emotional support after watching a violent clip and teaching them how to process their emotions
      and this calls for raising kids with empathy, understanding, emotional availability, open and honest communication

  • @SkinnyEMedia
    @SkinnyEMedia Před rokem +1

    Violence in movies plays more like pornography. The way people react when people die or get shot or explode, some people cheer or heighten the senses in the same as a beautiful lass getting blown and ejaculating but without sexual arousal, just hitting the pleasure sector of the brain.
    Vigilante films are the worst in this department or even action and horror. Dramas, particularly social realist works like DOLORES CLAIBORNE with shocking domestic or sexual abuse scenes or IRRÉVERSIBLE with its extreme rape scene and a brutal scene of a man hit in the head to a bloody pulp, tends to disturb and shock not arouse.

  • @Equus21
    @Equus21 Před rokem

    I've made short films and I also love filmmaking. Action is my favorite genre. John Wick is my fav action series of all time. I do love the stunt work, how real the props look and I love the cinematography. I love how actors can come together and create a rollercoaster action flick...can make my heart pound. It's not WILL John Wick escape this...it's HOW. That part of storytelling is so cool. I hate violence in real life. Never have shot a gun, I can't watch the news because mass shootings make me wanna cry. Fictional violence and real life are worlds apart...and it's up to parents of kids to teach them.

  • @willowbroaddus2753
    @willowbroaddus2753 Před 2 lety +5

    I’m glad that there is a counselor out there exploring this question in CZcams land. Last night my partner and I sat down to watch what looked like an interesting science fiction movie that is new on HBO. I forgot the title but it’s about androids escaping earth to raise humans on a new planet after Armageddon. The film was extremely interesting until it erupted into a massive amount of senseless violence. It was absolutely horrifying to watch this and it made it difficult to sleep and it felt like it infected my psyche. Also the premise for the violence in the film was absolutely stupid. If this was supposed to be an exploration of what would happen in a similar scenario, than it does not make sense for the android to go on that violent rampage and destroy all hope of humanity‘s survival. The survival it was supposed to be protecting. It felt like the writers of the film simply decided hey let’s have a super intense violent orgy now. That type of senseless gratuitous violence is absolutely disgusting and it’s in so many films! I’m just so sick and tired of it, and I truly wonder how it is affecting humanity. Living here in our privileged modern societies we are filling our heads with this violent garbage, and then using our tax money to fund a massive war machine that inflicts violence Around the world. And most people just passively accept this. Why are we so immune to violence?

    • @honestaussie5747
      @honestaussie5747 Před 2 lety

      Quite a number of artistic script writers and screenplay writers belong to cults and so creation and projection of violence into other people’s minds is seen as a ritual in order to affect people as a ‘fruit’ of the cult.

    • @liquidKi
      @liquidKi Před rokem +4

      Exactly. Perhaps it doesn't make individuals more likely to perpetrate violence, but does it make individuals more passive or accepting of war? I'd say it's a fair bet.

  • @hiji5512
    @hiji5512 Před 6 měsíci

    Exactly.!!!!!

  • @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited

    I used to be afraid of gore and horror but now i find it funny when the bad guys die

  • @justadude777
    @justadude777 Před 3 lety +10

    Violent movies and games did give me violent thoughts growing up for example if I were to fight a bully or someone bad I wouldn't care to show mercy. I had a desire to brutally hurt them because it was just how I saw such situations by getting my perspective from violent content.
    Now I never had done anything brutal like I see from games and movies but the violent content was transforming my mind set and the source was from the things I've seen in movies.
    Violence sucks in my opinion I wish I was just a farmer boy who picks up hay and animal crap for a living than be surrounded by So much tempting violent content I some times avoid but sometimes dont

    • @gherieg.1091
      @gherieg.1091 Před 3 lety +6

      I agree with you.
      To say that violence, especially with realistic issues and themes involved, doesn’t have a deep impact on people is to say that the billion dollar ad industry is based on ... nothing.
      Everything we perceive in life or in art affects our view of, and conditions our potential behavior towards, our environment and people surrounding us.
      The impact of art, especially movies, is more profound because we watch with full undistracted attention ... and we don’t get any chance to put a counter narrative pushback while the layers of conditioning are being weaved into our psyche.
      Art impacts the subconscious much more than it does the conscious mind.
      Best to stay away from that Tarantino demon and TV shows like True Blood.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi Před 2 lety +1

      @@gherieg.1091 "To say that violence, especially with realistic issues and themes involved, doesn’t have a deep impact on people is to say that the billion dollar ad industry is based on ... nothing." and there goes the new overhyped tv show Squid Game, with lots of violence and realistic issues and themes
      "The impact of art, especially movies, is more profound because we watch with full undistracted attention ... and we don’t get any chance to put a counter narrative pushback while the layers of conditioning are being weaved into our psyche. Art impacts the subconscious much more than it does the conscious mind." this is true, our brain produces alpha brain waves when watching tv, that's why we often don't hear when someone in the room is calling us

    • @gherieg.1091
      @gherieg.1091 Před 2 lety

      @@FruityHachi Thank you, sir. And right you are.
      I rolled up my sleeves for nothing when I started reading your comment because it seemed like you were going to give me pushback ... 😁
      ... but you bolstered my argument with deeper arguments I didn’t know about. That’s why I said thank you ... for teaching me. I read it several times to get deeper understanding of it and to make it mine more, as well.
      I’m going to have a look at that show Squid that you mentioned now, whatever I can find of it on CZcams.
      Have a great day.

    • @dardmul
      @dardmul Před rokem

      @@gherieg.1091 What do you think about anime Hunter x hunter, and other shonens anime?

  • @liquidKi
    @liquidKi Před rokem +1

    2 things you're saying don't seem compatible to me. On one hand people are desensitized because they know it's not real, yet on the other hand it serves as a visceral stimulation, despite the desensitization? It seems to me like these two premises work against each other.

  • @almamater7427
    @almamater7427 Před měsícem

    what if you never watch movies?

  • @gterobert
    @gterobert Před 3 lety +3

    I refuse to watch very violent movies they are just not my taste!

  • @RaviTejaGude1
    @RaviTejaGude1 Před 2 lety

    Can you react to one of the south Indian movies in which police violence is glorified and glamorized? The movie is called Bheemla Nayak

  • @neidermeyer9361
    @neidermeyer9361 Před 3 lety +1

    No, nowadays violence in movies is not like spicy food.

  • @MountTheodore72
    @MountTheodore72 Před 3 lety +2

    This is an interesting take because for years many white conservatives or right wing thinkers couldn't help but blame gangster rap and the glorification gun violence in music videos (Not to mention black gangster movies) for the continual violence found in the inner cities, namely the black areas. They felt that those songs and glorification of guns and violence was a major part of the rise of violence in those particular areas. What's your take on that idea?

  • @truthseek3017
    @truthseek3017 Před rokem +1

    Primal vs Divine emotion
    Masculine vs Feminine
    Dark vs Light
    Hate vs Love
    Violence vs Peace
    I do believe there is dark and light forces at work and these forces can get into people and influence them, then they spread those vibrations. The yin yang balance of dark and light, masculine and feminine.

  • @b0b303
    @b0b303 Před 2 lety +1

    How does this video have 7000 views? It’s such an interesting topic

  • @naveenkmohan8251
    @naveenkmohan8251 Před 2 lety +1

    movies like john wick will not impact people becoz it is not at all relatable , but i think joker will

  • @WD40318
    @WD40318 Před rokem +2

    Best example of real violence in film is probably Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's list. Not because of the dismemberment and gore "realism", or the typical bandwagon that "it is the most realistic movie ever" but, the fact that it shows that with violence there is NO winner, even after you were "victorious". The trauma of violence whether received or inflicted causes a chain reaction of trauma for EVERYONE. Nobody wins. With these John Wick movies, it is a sense of justified violence. It is a fake and absurd concept. I think people like to project the idea of escapism through the consequences of "just" violence. When in reality, it is destructive and brings out the evil of human beings. My 2 cents.

  • @alejulul2379
    @alejulul2379 Před 2 lety

    Maybe law and order is schaudenfraude

  • @rustedcoin9341
    @rustedcoin9341 Před 4 lety +1

    You take too much time to get started, cut to the essential. Appart from that cool video

  • @heikkijhautanen4576
    @heikkijhautanen4576 Před 3 lety +8

    Its not the films, Americans should think about their relationship with Guns In General, they seem to be obsessed with firearms.

    • @justadude777
      @justadude777 Před 3 lety +1

      Films can plant ideas tho

    • @justanimage5012
      @justanimage5012 Před 3 lety

      Imagine the billions and billions of dollars that wouldn't be injected into the economy if Hollywood didnt do what they did..
      Hmm, no thank you

    • @alices8660
      @alices8660 Před 2 lety +3

      You clearly don't understand America. People like their right to bear arms so they can defend themselves if they ever need to and to hunt. Not everyone likes violence here. We don't take joy in cold blooded violence. Sure maybe some people do but that's all over the damn world. Don't act like it just America. Also it's not just Americans that likes films with violence people from other countries do too. So why don't you criticize them?

  • @josefengelhardt2767
    @josefengelhardt2767 Před rokem

    Movies Like
    A Clockwork Orange
    The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
    Scarface
    And Falling Down
    Are Not Only Phenomenal Pieces of Art but Phenomenal Examples of Films that are Pushing Against Censorship Guidelines

  • @SkinnyEMedia
    @SkinnyEMedia Před rokem +1

    Then begs the question, why is pornography so explicitly regulated and censored than violence? A rape- or murder fantasy is perhaps more dangerous than watching two loving couples kissing and humping.

  • @iceilgar8105
    @iceilgar8105 Před 8 měsíci

    I wanna watch english series but I can`t find anything nice to watch. They all are garbage, full of negativity, violence and blood, rape and so on. So nothing to watch.

  • @celebrity_rooster7488
    @celebrity_rooster7488 Před 2 lety

    Violent people finish first. Take a look at Jordan Peterson before becoming judgmental. Non-violent people never ever become millionaires.