Can You Beat Shin Megami Tensei V Demonless?
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- Kept you waiting, huh?
To celebrate this game getting taken out back and replaced with a new one, let's go back one last time and see how we beat Shin Megami Tensei V without using any demons!
Special thanks to:
- Sonata, for voicing Raidou: x.com/Tsuzihri_07
- Thanos Pagkidis, for his amazing renders: x.com/ThanosPagkidis1
- Deus, for his footage of solo Demi-Fiend: • Can I Beat The Demi-fi...
- BuffMaister, for his footage of Loup-Garou using Souffle D'eclair: • Shin Megami Tensei 5 -...
- Vincent Lee's, for his fantastic remix of Moon Prism Power, Make Up: • Vincent Lee - Transfor...
- ElevenWAV, for her amazing rendition of "Humans, Demons, and...": • Shin Megami Tensei V -...
Music List:
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Babe wake up. They gave Zeph a main speaking role.
“Shin Megami Tensei V is the first Shin Megami Tensei V game to be released at this point.”
*brain short-circuits
Suddenly, SMT V 2!
I mean...it's not wrong with the release of Vengeance
Bro, Vengeance is out in half an hour, you really pushed it to the limit here.
Custom Cutscenes:
2:38 Aogami Schwarznegger
4:51 Meeting Gustave
6:40 Amanozako is Annoying
9:15 It's a Navigator, it Doesn't Count
24:04 MOMMY
25:34 Oh hey, it's Raidou
54:20 Raidou Fight
1:47:25 Alan Rickman
Another amazing video. I didn't like it quite as much as DDS2, but don't let that discourage you. This was still an awesome time on a day when I really needed a pick me up.
What do you mean 'custom'? That's exactly how I remember them from my game.
I'm so glad this became a video. SMTV Demonless is how i found you guys, and I'm so happy I did
FionnMacCumhail is one of the best bosses in modern megaten, actually requiring the player to make a strat other then buffs and debuffs outside challenge runs, great designed boss hope vengeance has a bunch like it
on vengeance you can get phys damps easy before him, which makes him super easy
@@SantosOverlord yes, but I thankfully missed them and beat him on attempt two with respect for the game, in fact most bosses I’ve beaten on second attempt but considering the utter whiplash of 1st or 23rd try from original V it’s so so much better
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 i mean i went for the same as the original since its needed for the wolf boss, and then....
What an amazing run
SMTV is one of the best Atlus games ever released from a gameplay perspective and it was an honor to help Robin and Zephyr out throughout
For those curious, I began talking with them at about Yakumo, this actually happened before I started CZcams seriously and it also predates when I gained a following on Twitter as Daily Figue.
I also wanted to highlight a few of the other instances I helped because I just want to gush about V some more
1. Tetrakarn for Chernobog- At the time they fought him, Robin and Zeph hadn’t yet watched Deus’ video where he beat Chernobog through the Tetrakarn stat. To my knowledge, Tetrakarn is the ONLY way to solo Chernobog because the pressure he’s able to apply with 4 press turns is too much
2. Floral Gust for Zeus- When they first started Zeus, Robin and Zeph were using Wind Breath as their main damage skill. However I remembered that by beating Baal for Demeter, he gives you his essence, which has Floral Gust, the wind version of skills like Glacial Blast and Ragnarok which does about twice as much as Wind Breath. And Baal is the only demon who has it who isn’t either NG+ exclusive or Alignment locked. They used this for their first win against him but later found success with Wind Breath when they went back with Resist Elec.
3. Parvati for Shiva- Shiva is probably the most complex fight in the game due to his AI. If you null/drain/repel any of his or his allies non-ailment attacks, he’ll go into his Almighty mode. The ONE EXCEPTION to this, as I discovered through soloing the fight myself, is Parvati’s Mahamaon. In this instance, Shiva does not care if and ONLY IF light is nullified innately (I.E. not through a passive). So doing this with Cleo’s affinities ensures you get an extra turn to kill Ananta and get about a 100HP heal. Robin and Zeph also tweaked the strategy to eliminate Kali and instead use Ganesha. The reason why I preferred Kali is diminishing returns and Ganesha has Matarunda, which doesn’t pair well with Parvati’s Marakukaja. However with Kali, you can always match Parvati’s defense buff with your own attack buff and, for some reason, Kali just forgets she has Dekaja. But at the same time, Fogna at a bad time can be a disaster so either way is viable.
Thank you so much again for letting me help and I’m very much looking forward to dissecting VV with you guys!
Dropping this a day before vengeance is a power move
My guess for the poison cleanse during Chernobog: Dark Sword inflicts Mute, which I'm pretty sure has the highest priority of any ailment in the game. The Mute chance procced and the game attempted to inflict it before realizing you had Tetrakarn up, but in that split second it got rid of the poison. There's actually a similar glitch in SMT4A with Smirk and Lost - despite Nanashi being immune to Lost, getting hit by a Force spell will still cause the game to check for it and, if it procs, will remove Nanashi's Smirk before realizing Nanashi can't be blown away.
This is suprisingly logical, maybe having a Mute weakness could lead to an advantage in this fight if this is true. But what Essence has that along with a Phys resistance..?
This seems like a fitting farewell to base SMT V. Good job pals.
I don't know if Zephyr having a speaking role is just to go with the Nahobino bit or not, i like it either way.
Incredible watch honestly, as always. Looking forward to Vengeance, and I'm looking forward to your next video whatever it may be.
2:30 I summon my persona? *EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
I pull out my gun?*EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
I re awaken with demonic powers?*EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
Damn I really am short on options hunh
Don’t worry. Your local cyber demon will arrive shortly to turn you into a magical girl.
Goddamn I love your guys' stuff, in part because I can also hear that someone at the editor's desk loves Project Moon with how often I hear the music in there.
On an unrelated and completely shameless note, I'd love to work with you guys for voices if you ever need more people! Much love! 💙
krauser and CHRIIIIIIIIIIISSSS special appearance + Zeph speaking role=ABSOLUTE CINEMA
Love this video and the abysmal timing of it literally before this game gets rereleased with double the content.
We're so back
This is gonna be a fun one. I remember watching this series weekly as you and zephyr worked through the game. It’s gonna be really cool to see it all again with some more commentary.
So glad the feature length movie for this series came to be, as I remember watching each new part as they were uploaded, always looking forward to the next one
This is bound to take me down memory lane, we're so fucking back
I can't unsee that transformation scene now lmao
The only sad thing about Freikugel is that it doesn't have a unique animation for Nahobino. At least it does for Demi-Fiend. Laser face in HD.
I didn't even realize that there's a "smart AI" thing since I was using the Trumpeter essence for affinities for most of the endgame, since it gives resist or better for all elements, and I just slot in Resist Phys when I got an essence with it. I only really found out in the Demi-Fiend fight. If everyone blocks or better Phys, then he just spams Freikugel, sometimes using Chaotic Will. If any of your party is resistant or neutral to Phys, he will switch between Deadly Fury on them and Freikugel on random party member, with a preference for the former since he thinks that since it can hit that he can get more press turns from it, since it's an always crit move, which it can't when resisted. He will also use Gaia Rage if you cast Tetrakarn, so you can't hope to bullish your way through that way.
With the poison going away in the Chernobog fight, I think I know what happened there. Like DDS, ailments have a priority list. My guess is that Dark Sword's chance at Seal, which is the highest priority, was going to proc against you. As you can only have one ailment on you at once, the game preemptively removed the poison. The game didn't see that the attack was going to be reflected, however, most likely because it was added from Tetrakarn. The only reason that Chernobog didn't get sealed was because his resistance was higher and the roll wasn't high enough for him, probly. And reflected attacks can inflict their secondary effect. In the Demi-Fiend fight, if all your party reflects phys, his Javelin Rain, which he always does on his first turn, will hit himself four times and each one can Seal him. This happened on my successful attempt. My only other guess is that attacks with an ailment secondary can just randomly remove other statuses, even if they don't proc. I've seen it happen multiple times and I just chocked it up to being a bug.
I really like this video, I'm glad this channel popped up in my recommended :)
Just beat SMT 2 today in prep for Vengeance! Love this series, it’s helping me through tough jobless times
invalid run, bro used Aogami
This was amazing to watch awesome job guys
best way to hype oneself before smtvv
glad this video was made! good to refresh some basics before going into the game
Hell yeah loved the video. Especially the part with shiva
YOU'RE GOING TO UPSET THE SEMANTICS POLICE
xD
Finally, another challenge run to add to my "Robin videos to rewatch every few weeks" collection.
Wasnt expecting this challenge, kinda thought you were upload SMT4A. Still very nice my dude
This game is one of my favorites on the switch to this day
Always love hearing projmoon music in these videos. GG, WP.
Got my snacks and drinks ready!
(edit) Aaand done watching. Great job!
Yay! Thank you!
Nice. I got to watch this early due to buying a Patreon tier. I gotta say that I really like your style of videos. Deus' heavy editing style is great but it can be a bit too...rich at times.
The emphasis on dialogue and gameplay info makes your videos easier to listen to casually which is big for me since I listen half the time while cleaning at my job.
The only thing I could try to criticize is that Zephyr's voice work isn't as punchy as Robin's. Voices are voices, can't change that. And the Aogami Schwartzwelt impression was pretty good. But I think if Zeyphr tries making his voice boom a little more in the sections where he talks, it would stay more in line with Robin's voice work. That way, there isn't such a whiplash when they change.
Yeah, it was my first time reading from a script in many many years and i don't nearly have the theatrical experience as Robin (he's a theater kid lol), so hopefully that'll improve in time.
~Zephyr
oh damn surprise Roland theme in the zeus fight LOL, amazing video y'all :)
PM brainrot real
@@Lfk_777 always
YES IM SO READY FOR THIS VIDEO AND VENGENCE
I was correct this was amazing
WHAT? ROLAND 3 AT 1:36:40 ???!?!?? The PM sleeper agent within me just activated so hard out of nowhere while idly listening to this video lmao.
PM BRAIN ROT REAL FRFR
god the moment i heard this i rewinded 5 seconds and paused to check for fellow pm sleepers
This is going to be soooooooooo GOOD!!!
Oh my god, an SMTV challenge run right before Vengeance really was the last thing I was expecting 😭😭😭 Let's fucking gooooo
tbh i call the law of diminishing returns "ailment staling" in analogy to smash bros staling
Robin, I've already watched this playthrough by your Vods, do you really think I'll watch it again as a 2 and a half hour movie?
Because you're goddamn right I love your content
2:08:01 your audio looped again
Great video 10/10
The sound my neck made when i snapped my gaze to my other monitor as soon as I heard the Einhander soundtrack
Having watched the let's play man Revengance will Definitely be less than 100 parts this time
Time to do this all over again for Vengeance! Oh boy!
The only question I have is: Why Metatron is Alan Rickman??
Alan Rickman plays the Metatron in Dogma
Wax on. Was off
New RobZeph challenge run video, I used to pray for times like this
ahh the fact I'm watching this while playing kingdom hearts on my steam deck is the highlight of my day
since this series got its own video will the no demi-fiend series get its own video as well?
Ah yeah bring on the hype
ARTIFACT SCYTHE MENTIONED LETS GO
Artifact Scythe Pog
Peak has dropped yet again
There are very few things that will get me more hype in my sub box than a new full length Robin and zephyr feature film
Yooo the Ishtar battle theme was one of my the absolute highlights of the game. The battle is pathetic but goddamn that track is 🔥
Just got to the the end game of V so I can now watch this video
Hey there is a new HARDER version of the hitoshura will you do it?
now that SMT:5 vengeance is out, you should do a canon of vengance run with only human characters and the MC, so it plays like SMT 1 and 2, where aside from the demons, you also have the human characters appearing as guests now and then
Some of the human characters use demons to fight though
Love to see you try to beat Vengeance with human allies.
Well we’ll be streaming this tomorrow!
Ah man, they cut the recipe for dishwasher Lasagne, that was the highlight of the entire playthrough for me
If you like the way the Temple of Eternity plays as a dungeon, you should check out the Etrian Odyssey series, and maybe the Persona Q games though I have no idea whether they're as good. EO3 onwards tend to design dungeons in a way that uses puzzles relying on minibosses called FOEs, so if you can take them you can brute force your way through a puzzle, but they are deliberately above the curve so you won't always be able to- especially on a first playthrough. The puzzles are also usually pretty engaging, relying on learning and understanding the movement of FOEs and how they interact with the environment.
You don't need to play the series in order, they're pretty much self contained. If you wanna give them a try I'd recommend starting on the EO3HD remake, or emulating EO4 or EO5 from the 3DS, with 5 being my personal favourite in terms of gameplay (both in and out of combat).
It is so weird seeing how this played out vs how Deus's run played out. Since you actually managed to beat Shiva in NG. While Deus had to go to NG+. At the same time he also just left the first two allies alive. While you swapped to different ones. I am interested in how you got Boon Boost EX was it from the DLCs that weren't able to be gotten at the time by Deus? Though I guess part of it might have been not nulling certain damage allowing it to be possible.
WAIT HOLY HECK IS THAT LIBRARY OF RUINA MUSIC LETS GOOO
pm brainrot real
@@Lfk_777 us pm fans are a hivemind
While watching inkotice some interesting music.. Shudder from Einhander... what a classic
Me and Zeph were talking about the Lyrical Paragraph one day, and I was like "Why not?" lol
I don't know if anybody else noticed it yet, and do correct me if I'm getting details wrong, but during the Shiva fight, one of Zephyr's takes of explaining how to deal with Ananta and how it's a higher priority than Shiva himself plays twice.
Still, I very much did enjoy watching this, I've done so multiple times and have noticed some of the smaller details on the repeat viewings. I hope the algorythm continues being favorable to this channel's growth.
So I'm not crazy! I was rewatching it and heard the exact same thing and I just figured I looped it somehow but nope.
God, I just finished watching Deus do this wild psycho shit. Now I'm going to watch two more crazy people do it. Oh boy.
So kinda random, but this video made me remember it, but a few years ago on one of your SMT V Demonless videos you mentioned in a comment that you were making a video on the story of SMT V, and I was wondering if you were still working on it?
I have had that video in the back of my mind for a while, but with the advent of Vengeance, I decided we should beat that and see what changed before I make my case. Good to know whether I'm talking about all of SMT V or just Canon of Creation
LOL
@@RobinandZephyr that makes sense. I’m just interested to see your thoughts on the story as a whole, though completing vengeance would probably give you some different perspective on the story.
the humor is actually funny
awwwww shit,
here we go again
1:09:05 Could it be based off of the way the game processes the reflect and rider effects?
Like if you reflected a spider bite that was both physical and did poison? Maybe the reflect part cannot really stop the poison part, but it pretends like it prevented it by wiping off the poison at the same time? And it just applies that logic to everything since the times you could even notice this are rare.
Yes please.
FOOD BABY
The voice acting parts you edit into these videos are seriously *loud* compared to the rest of the videos. Both in-game audio and your voice over are fine but I always have to half my volume or more for the voice acting bits.
Noted; I’ll try and balance them better next time!
You can! Deus did it a while back
HUANG LONG GAMING
17:36 fun fact: they toned down the level difference in SMT V Vengeance
as to beating the demi fiend with out NG+,i'll do it
May your luck eternally wax. You will need it.
Is it just me or does around the 2:07:00 to the 2:08:00 repeat? The stuff going on about Anata needing to be killed, either way though this is one hell of a fun thing to watch and I could not believe it was actually possible to do solo runs with this game
it does
Didn't you guys play this game your very first time demonless? Is this what this video is? Chronicling that run? Or was it a run after that?
You got it; it's a vid about that run
2:20:00 ish, vengeance just lets you buy balms straight up on ng+ in the new mode
Meanwhile me trying to beat Huang Long at lvl 99 without demons but with demi fiend affinities just for fun.... yeah, let me tell u, eating 4 megidolaons in a row is unhealthy. XD
YO YO YO
try again with the vengeance version, no level scaling in that.
Song at 1:25:36?
Please do smt 4 next
Rickman really thinks he's fucking MUSTADIO
Quick! Show him your hole!
@@RobinandZephyr and there goes the entire alliance raid
Not being able to put swears in my name in a single player game pisses me off so much
Wym I name myself badass just fine
Low Tier Nahobino
Yoooo
how about SMTV VEGANCE DEMONLESS??
1:11:34
Comment for algorithm
I appreciate the hustle my guy
theres actually 11 aogami essences, 0-10
FILF Pixie?? Excuse me? Lol if that’s what you said it’s funny because according to actual myth, Amanozako is Susanoo’s(aogami’s) daughter
Faux-pixie, as in phony
@@RobinandZephyr gotcha lol. Welp, gotta love those Freudian misunderstandings
This took waaayyy too long, I remember the first EP...I said it wasnt a great idea on a first playthrough to be demonless...You took so long the update came out...lol
The quality whiplash of silky smooth 90FPS of Vengeance to vanilla V on the switch is jarring, and vice versa. It's incredible Atlus made this game run on a toaster.
First
Hate to break it to you, but Deus beat you to the punch. Still a good video.
zeph talking is a neat experiment but it is not it sorry
Good to know you guys are grinding. HAWD. 🎉❤
(srsly, amazing. Huge fan, rly glad to see this massive upload🎉)