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  • A tasty bit of self-reflection! 🎂🎂🎂 / philosophytube
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    BIBLIOGRAPHY:
    Elizabaeth Adetiba, “Caster Semenya and the Cruel History of Contested Black Femininity,” in SBNation
    Sandra Bartkey, “Foucault, Femininity, and the Modernization of Patriarchal Power”
    Simone de Beauvoir, Le DeuxiĂšme Sexe
    Rhea Bhatnagar & Olivia Little, “TikTok creators are promoting dangerous eating disorder tactics to young users -- and the company is letting them,” in Media Matters For America
    Simon Critchley, Infinitely Demanding
    John Duncan, “Making a Girlboss: Patriarchy, Social Reproduction and Neoliberal Subjectivity”
    Eli Cugini, “When Thin Is A Trans Requirement,” in Autostraddle
    Michel Foucault, Discipline and Punish
    Michel Foucault, Power/Knowledge (ed. Colin Gordon)
    Jules Joanne Gleeson, “How Do Transitions Happen?” in Transgender Marxism
    Lakeisha Goedluck, “Apetamin: the illegal slim-thick wonder drug that preys on black women’s insecurities,” in Gal-Dem
    Dimitri Gutas, “The Empiricism of Avicenna,” in Oriens
    April Herndon, “Collateral Damage from Friendly Fire? Race, Nation, Class and the ‘War Against Obesity,’” in Social Semiotics
    Cressida Heyes, Self-Transformation
    Poh’lad Za Hranice, “Transcendental Subject Vs. Empirical Self: On Kant’s Account of Subjectivity,” in Filozofia
    David Hume, A Treatise on Human Nature, Book I, Part IV, Section VI
    Kimberly Hutchings, “Choosers or Losers? Feminist Ethical and Political Agency in a Plural and Unequal World,” in Gender, Agency and Coercion
    Rebecca Jennings, “The $5000 Quest for the Perfect Butt,” in Vox
    Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason
    Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals
    Nigella Lawson, Cook, Eat, Repeat
    John Locke, Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Book II, Chapter I
    Maintenance Phase, “The Body Mass Index”
    Maintenance Phase, “The Obesity Epidemic”
    Anna North, ““I am a woman and I am fast”: What Caster Semenya’s Story Says About Gender and Race in Sports,” in Vox
    Jonah Peretti, “Capitalism and Schizophrenia”
    Adam Phillips, On Wanting to Change
    Helene Shugart, Heavy
    TyTalks, I'm Black...Not ✹Black✹| The Societal Beauty Standard for Black Women
    Heather Widdows, Perfect Me
    Naomi Wolf, The Beauty Myth
    LEMON DRIZZLE CAKE RECIPE:
    Ingredients:
    Butter 175g
    Caster Sugar 150g
    1.5tsp Baking Powder
    Pinch of Salt
    Elderflower Cordial
    Granulated Sugar
    Poppy Seeds
    Eggs x3
    Ground Almonds 75g
    Lemons x2
    Cream the butter and sugar with the zest of the lemons. Mix the flour, ground almonds, salt, and baking powder in a separate bowl. Add one egg to the butter and sugar mixture and beat in, then a third of the dry ingredients, then the second egg, and so on. Add two tablespoons of elderflower cordial and mix. Place in a greased baking tin and bake at 160 degrees Celsius (fan oven) for 20-25 minutes until just beginning to brown at the edges. Meanwhile, mix the drizzle - 100ml of elderflower cordial and the juice of the two lemons. When the cake is done, prick all over with a cake tester (or piece of spaghetti), and slowly pour on the drizzle so it soaks in and doesn’t pool. Sprinkle modestly with granulated sugar and poppy seeds. Leave to cool completely before cutting. Pairs excellently with a cup of earl grey tea or a glass of rosĂ© wine (French, not Californian).
    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 - Appetizer
    2:29 - First Course
    10:30 - Second Course
    21:55 - Side Dish: The Ballad of Kelly Slaughter
    28:45 - Third Course
    #Food #Cooking #Beauty
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  • @PhilosophyTube
    @PhilosophyTube  Pƙed 2 lety +10108

    We Make 🍋LEMON CAKE🍰

    • @mathieuleader8601
      @mathieuleader8601 Pƙed 2 lety +34

      Lemon Drizzle?

    • @PinkCrocodile
      @PinkCrocodile Pƙed 2 lety +50

      I thought it was a joke
      But after seeing the description..........

    • @Mrjkjd
      @Mrjkjd Pƙed 2 lety +38

      ✹BASED✹ and 💊redpilled💊

    • @1a2b3c4d_
      @1a2b3c4d_ Pƙed 2 lety +48

      That cake looked delicious! I’m going to try (and likely fail) to make it!

    • @andrianep.1937
      @andrianep.1937 Pƙed 2 lety +16

      So close to my birthday too, - it's in three days-... Thank you.đŸ„ș

  • @nandayane
    @nandayane Pƙed 2 lety +4728

    The “girlboss” segment is absolutely terrifying. I feel like abigal thought: “what is the most modern incarnation of evil and oppression with a pretty face that I can put onscreen” and the first thought was “silicon valley startup”.

    • @savvy5640
      @savvy5640 Pƙed 2 lety +353

      I thought the same. This segment is, for lack of a better word, brutal. It could almost be a stand-alone video in my opinion: there's much to dissect from it, it cuts right through what patriarcapitalism does.

    • @dvillines26
      @dvillines26 Pƙed 2 lety +84

      it's the rotten core of all silicon valley startup people. if you make a tech startup to make the world a better place, you will make it a worse place. Disrupting an industry kills jobs, and more often than not, people by proxy. the media has tried to condition us to view these people as noble, but they're disgusting.

    • @yuuri9064
      @yuuri9064 Pƙed 2 lety +182

      Yes, and frighteningly realistic, too! Which makes it all the worse/better. Abigail is a phenomenal writer. So many layers, so much subtext.
      (Also, that part where Kelly Slaughter said "female-identified" first made me go, "cool, they're inclusive to trans people!" Followed immediately by, "...wait, is that TERF-speak?" Because, y'know, "Trans-Identified Male/Female" and all that.
      Can someone help me out here? Was she being transphobic, inclusive, or some strange mix?)

    • @pastadog5029
      @pastadog5029 Pƙed 2 lety +236

      @@yuuri9064 I think the fact that she's vaguely in a space that could be interpreted as either progressive or regressive is the point. It's a non-answer that still says a lot.

    • @SeeMeRolling
      @SeeMeRolling Pƙed 2 lety +52

      its so creepy that we all feel like we know someone just like her

  • @minimuttonchops
    @minimuttonchops Pƙed 2 lety +4053

    “Let them eat cake, but like in an emotionally healthy way.” - Philosophy Tube 2021

  • @kimd7835
    @kimd7835 Pƙed 2 lety +990

    "Are you a feminist?"
    "Absolutely."
    "But you're not political."
    "No."
    This is the realest shit.

    • @enchantedgoldrush
      @enchantedgoldrush Pƙed rokem

      ew

    • @eboone
      @eboone Pƙed rokem +18

      @@enchantedgoldrush ...💀

    • @ciacotriyallder2215
      @ciacotriyallder2215 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

      I feel like being a feminist isnt really very political if we take away all the pazzazz and stereotypes and feminist extremists. Politics shouldnt have much to do with morals. And at its core, being feminist is just believing in equality. Thats like saying being racist is political, when in reality its just being an asshole.

  • @lousyfuckingratboy4219
    @lousyfuckingratboy4219 Pƙed 2 lety +1007

    27:06 the way she hits the line "like, i'm in *labor* but i'm not *working* " with unassuming sincerity always spins me out into bug-eyed shock. it's brilliant

    • @thoticcusprime9309
      @thoticcusprime9309 Pƙed rokem +5

      its all acting.

    • @tortis6342
      @tortis6342 Pƙed rokem +41

      @@thoticcusprime9309 brilliant acting!

    • @domesticcat1725
      @domesticcat1725 Pƙed rokem +29

      ​@@thoticcusprime9309no way, i thought the was an actual silicon valley CEO

    • @graybonesau
      @graybonesau Pƙed rokem +3

      @@thoticcusprime9309 nah really

    • @ca-ke9493
      @ca-ke9493 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +9

      I have heard of bosses doing exactly that. Having a meeting right after giving birth. Capitalism is wack.

  • @amaravazquez8591
    @amaravazquez8591 Pƙed 2 lety +5433

    "Are you a feminist?"
    "Absolutely!"
    "But you're not political?"
    ...."no."
    Girlboss logic 101

    • @DyslexicMitochondria
      @DyslexicMitochondria Pƙed 2 lety +33

      Haha ikr

    • @sterlingarcher8041
      @sterlingarcher8041 Pƙed 2 lety +89

      @@DyslexicMitochondria your username made me click on your profile. Your channel is a hidden gem bro

    • @amellirizarry9503
      @amellirizarry9503 Pƙed 2 lety +93

      it will be that way as long as being “political” isn’t consider profitable

    • @saveriannathan1415
      @saveriannathan1415 Pƙed 2 lety +45

      Sigma Girlboss Mindset

    • @pretty948
      @pretty948 Pƙed 2 lety +73

      Margaret thatcher had girl power uwu

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Pƙed 2 lety +2386

    this is the backdoor pilot to a philsophical cooking show called Kant Cook Won't Cook

    • @madisonrhall
      @madisonrhall Pƙed 2 lety +20

      i die X'D

    • @alexchurchfield2901
      @alexchurchfield2901 Pƙed 2 lety +17

      I need it

    • @NankitaBR
      @NankitaBR Pƙed 2 lety +28

      I didn't know I needed this, but now I do.

    • @D9992.
      @D9992. Pƙed 2 lety +14

      Please, some new left leaning CZcams channel make this happen.

    • @PutoMedicoBrujo
      @PutoMedicoBrujo Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@D9992. why dont you do it yourself? you coward!
      ....
      ok, no, seriously if someone sees something like that please tell me

  • @yosowosagasu
    @yosowosagasu Pƙed rokem +500

    "You would be surprised how much a little hormone can change your body! Though if you can't make your own, store-bought is fine!" This. Line. Is. Amazing.

  • @M2ofEMMM
    @M2ofEMMM Pƙed 2 lety +342

    "Knowing something is wrong and believing it anyway" brings me back to the first time I tried to talk about my anorexia with a therapist. I'm skinny. She was fat. When she asked me - kindly, patiently - what I thought was wrong with being fat, I couldn't think of a rational explanation as to how I both thought that she and every other fat person in the world weren't doing *anything* wrong and were in fact beautiful and wonderful people, and yet I was scared of putting on weight myself. It can become sort of an inverse of Naomi's experience - instead of believing that you are a victor where everyone else has failed, you can become trapped by your ideal self in the idea that you are uniquely wrong.

  • @evie4215
    @evie4215 Pƙed 2 lety +5299

    I think the trend of thin women using love of food as a personality trait is really telling, because it proves how ingrained those standards of femininity are in us. It's not enough to be thin, you have to be thin effortlessly, without depriving yourself of anything. Because making an effort to abide by beauty standards is seen as weak, antifeminist, but at the same time being 'ugly' is still unacceptable.

    • @user-xk1rm5di2t
      @user-xk1rm5di2t Pƙed 2 lety +471

      It reminded me of Gone Girl's 'Cool girl' monologue. "Being the Cool Girl means I am a hot, brilliant, funny woman who [...] jams hot dogs and hamburgers into her mouth like she’s hosting the world’s biggest culinary gang bang while somehow maintaining a size 2, because Cool Girls are above all hot."

    • @evie4215
      @evie4215 Pƙed 2 lety +68

      @@user-xk1rm5di2t Yes! I love that monologue, love that book/movie. So gratifyingly vicious.

    • @Karin-fj3eu
      @Karin-fj3eu Pƙed 2 lety +184

      Reminds me of the thing about having to go to the bathroom to reapply lipstick instead of just doing it in front of others

    • @lucyandecember2843
      @lucyandecember2843 Pƙed 2 lety +104

      damned if you don't damned if you do, you're supposed to be a non human human.. somehow

    • @misty9964
      @misty9964 Pƙed 2 lety +32

      i really hate this shit woman in media stop pretending to be naturally thin challenge

  • @HiddenLunarWings
    @HiddenLunarWings Pƙed 2 lety +3487

    "We encourage all our customers to be responsible with their shopping" in such an underrated line.
    Every corporation says the same thing. "We know we're profiting off exploiting people, but it's actually their fault for being exploited."

    • @ScorpionViper1001
      @ScorpionViper1001 Pƙed 2 lety +228

      It's also a window into the mindset of these people. They've convinced themselves the issue is one of discipline and somehow imagine that they themselves would somehow be immune to their own coercive tactics, even though that almost certainly isn't true. But they don't want to take into consideration is that their status has nothing to do with "discipline" but more to do with connections, systems of prejudice, and luck.

    • @gogreen2496
      @gogreen2496 Pƙed 2 lety +68

      "if we aren't doing it, someone else will!"

    • @hamishwalker672
      @hamishwalker672 Pƙed 2 lety +153

      In every gambling ad, "YOU COULD BE A MILLIONAIRE, WIN ALL THIS MONEY, LIVE THE LIFE YOU DREAMED OF, SOMEONE HAS TO!!!
      ....gamble responsibly"

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      It's a quite renaissance attitude "daring to think" and casting off the chosen shackles... Elitism given a new stage.

    • @MeonLights
      @MeonLights Pƙed 2 lety +58

      This is pretty much 1:1 what the people behind lootboxes say when they are (rightfully) told that it's abusive gambling mechanics.

  • @geeblocks3981
    @geeblocks3981 Pƙed rokem +491

    I am a high school philosopher teacher and I must say that this channel has saved my job many times. I have studied philosophy and I understand it... but this channel, this show, has helped me so much to explain to my students concepts and topics and problems... and, even better, how they can see it applied in our daily life.
    In high school, they don't care about philosophy concepts or all the white men behind them unless is something that affects them directly. So this channel has made me land those so complex concepts to what they are actually interested in: themselves.
    Thank you, Abigail.

  • @sweetchocolatesecret
    @sweetchocolatesecret Pƙed 2 lety +642

    I've thought a lot about how this subject relates to me as a cis Black woman and how culture really brings a lot of conflict to the conversation. I'm expected to eat and be thick BUT only in certain places. Like being impossibly thin is more so a stigma in the Black community ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE NO ASS. You can have no tits, an average face, even a tummy in come cases but GOD FORBID you don't have an ass. And now since the ideal body type is being slim thick the relationship between women and food along with procedures like Brazilian butt lifts is just a vortex of pressure and confusion.

    • @redfacegaming7727
      @redfacegaming7727 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      If that's the people you want to attract. You could just be at a healthy weight with a little butt and find someone who isn't controlled by society. I realize that is hard in a Black community but their are outliers.

    • @wickjezek1101
      @wickjezek1101 Pƙed 2 lety +28

      I'm sorry you're experiencing this. That ideal has invaded mainstream (white) culture. We know the mainstream steals black culture, whether that's positive or negative aspects. A body type that less than 10% (that's my estimation, not science backed) naturally have. It's nearly impossible without surgery to have a big ass, tiny waist and big boobs. Boobs and butts are fat. When you put on fat you don't get to decide where it goes. I blame the Kardashians and Brazilian butt lifts. A body type only achievable for the rich.

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@redfacegaming7727 you.... don't actually know what the op is talking about do you? this isn't about a slim subset of people who have a toxic idea. this is the general vibe that is put on every seingle person and stays there until the individual makes a concited effort to break away from it and even then the residue lingers. you don't 'attract' mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, cousins and the like but they are also there. you can't cut out every single business from grocers to schools to government offices and, unless you live away from all humans, you are not able to deflect socially cast stigmas and preconceptions of visual acceptability, fuck the op can't even get away from it in their comment because here you are trying to make this about individual willpower while also making an unnecessary dig about 'healthy weight'.

    • @LarrySonOfMilton
      @LarrySonOfMilton Pƙed 2 lety

      Ignore that racist asshole Red Face.
      It's not the same since I am not Black, but in Latin America the beauty standard is quite similar. That surgery is called a BRAZILIAN butt lift after all. It's an impossible standard.

    • @user-dg3ug7ny5d
      @user-dg3ug7ny5d Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@wickjezek1101 For women aged 20-Over 60, the 'excellent' range for body fat percentage is 14-23.2%. Below 14% is considered unhealthy and it's 8% for a man.

  • @bdp8102
    @bdp8102 Pƙed 2 lety +2293

    That "I'm a feminist but I'm not political" statement from Kelly Slaughter ran ominously realistic, in this post-Ivanka Trump era.
    No actual feminist would ever say that, but lots of high-profile, upper-class, white women (who think "feminism" simply means achieving success for yourself, without questioning any existing systems, while female) often do, unironically, say stuff like this.
    Feminism is inherently political. It may not be a matter of parties, but it is always a matter of politics.

    • @Original_Tenshi_Chan
      @Original_Tenshi_Chan Pƙed 2 lety +116

      Agreed. I grew up hearing from my grandparents "You NEVER talk religion or politics, it's rude", and I feel that attitude is what has lead us to this place. The thing is, much like Feminism, EVERYTHING is political. How do you feel about the healthcare system? How do you feel about your job, pay, and working conditions? How do you feel about being able to choose what medical procedures or medication is most appropriate for your situation? How do you feel about having utilities? Getting an education? Having access to the internet?
      It's ALL politics, it all affects politics/policy, and politics/policy affects them as well. It is impossible to separate the world and reality from politics.
      And not being allowed to question religion just lead to the rampant, unquestioned abuses by people under the guise of "but I did it for muh gawd!"
      Anyone who says they "aren't political" are either cowards, lying, ignorant, or they can financially afford to ignore the politics around them.

    • @skytimely
      @skytimely Pƙed 2 lety +36

      Exactly. She captured the essence of the white upper class women that would hold this idea. Anyone outside of that criteria would be faced with politics that include them.

    • @skytimely
      @skytimely Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Or rather work against them.

    • @infinitemonkey917
      @infinitemonkey917 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Is the character based on a particular person ?

    • @cryofpaine
      @cryofpaine Pƙed 2 lety +39

      @@Original_Tenshi_Chan or are part of a demographic that has the luxury of not worrying about politics because most of society caters to them already.

  • @BeamerWalls
    @BeamerWalls Pƙed 2 lety +770

    "You're in labor, but you're not working."
    Holy shit the opitcs of how terrible that line is hit me like a ton of bricks.

    • @ApequH
      @ApequH Pƙed 2 lety +43

      It was perfect

    • @zetazimmer4769
      @zetazimmer4769 Pƙed 2 lety +27

      My jaw dropped; that was the line of the episode!

  • @madryael
    @madryael Pƙed 2 lety +1861

    I know CZcams is, ugh, so fraught when it comes to commenting, but I did want to share my personal journey with finding real REAL joy with being fat. Here goes: I got my eating disorder from my mother. The list of foods I was not allowed to eat as a child was longer than the list of foods I was allowed to eat. I was never allowed cake or soda even on my birthday. The one time my mom packed me lunch it was wholemeal bread with one tiny slice of turkey and piled with alfalfa sprouts with no mustard or mayo or anything. And an apple. Dinner growing up was often a bowl of rice and stir fried lettuce. And this was only ONE part of the child abuse I experienced from my Mom. Food was always about denial and punishment and discipline; all that jazz. And then............ I got the amazing blessing of raising a child. I expressed so much of my love for her through food and cooking. I made roast chicken and mashed potatoes and gravy from scratch. I cooked cute little bento boxes with pandas made out of rice and nori and little weenie frank squids and yellow egg omelette cut to look like stars. I made cakes and cookies and all of it was love. I also got fat. And I hated it about myself for so long, until I realized that what I actually value in life--what really makes me smile and feel genuine joy--is making delicious food for my family and the people I care about. There's love in that food, just like there's love in my belly and back fat and double-chin. Every excess pound on my body is made out of the love I have for my family, and the love I wish I'd had as a child. In feeding my family love through my homemade oatmeal chocolate chip cookies, I was also feeding myself love. I always thought that if I was thin enough, my mom would one day love me. But what I didn't realize until so recently is that my big bum and curves shows that I always had enough love in my body for my beautiful family and for myself.

    • @aidamanzano2129
      @aidamanzano2129 Pƙed 2 lety +167

      This comment made me tear up.

    • @darkartsninja
      @darkartsninja Pƙed 2 lety +155

      Thank you for being such an incredible role model to your child & breaking the cycle of intergenerational food restriction/fatphobia. I wish my mother shared your beliefs when I was growing up

    • @OriginalPineapplesFoster
      @OriginalPineapplesFoster Pƙed 2 lety +23

      This is beautiful and powerful! Thank you for sharing. đŸ±đŸ

    • @poetanderson2495
      @poetanderson2495 Pƙed 2 lety +47

      Reminds me of the saying "never trust a skinny cook" haha. Great journey! I'm happy you've learned to accept yourself

    • @idrisatardis5553
      @idrisatardis5553 Pƙed 2 lety +85

      My situation is a little different but this resonates with me so much. I’m from a culture where food has a central place and carries a lot of meaning. I’ve recently moved to a different country to escape political persecution. When people ask me what I miss most about home, I would say the food. Some would think that it’s pure hedonistic pleasure, don’t you have more important things to worry about? But food means gathering with your friends and family, it means sharing and gifting. It’s happiness and love. And to be able to be safe at home with people that you love and share a meal together means freedom. I know it sounds quite exaggerated but I miss my friends and family so much. I’m so glad that you have developed a good relationship with food and prioritise joy despite your mom. I’m sure that your kids can feel the love and warmth you put into every meal.

  • @exogender7687
    @exogender7687 Pƙed 2 lety +120

    Any time I explain my eating disorder, I have to go into really graphic details about how bad it was, because when people hear that a fat girl once lost 100 pounds their first assumption is that she regrets gaining 200 back. Not that she was already malnourished before what she did to lose the 100.

    • @exogender7687
      @exogender7687 Pƙed 2 lety +30

      (Also, my health is way better now. I had to drop out of college back then, but now I'm looking into grad school (which is less work-related than it sounds, I'm just a nerd :P ). x3 )

  • @RedMeansRecording
    @RedMeansRecording Pƙed 2 lety +7618

    Holy shit that FIERCE interview section was legitimately hard to get through. Bravo.

    • @musicdev
      @musicdev Pƙed 2 lety +76

      RED????????? Yo this makes me so so happy

    • @SynthieFlowers
      @SynthieFlowers Pƙed 2 lety +33

      Omg wasn't expecting to see you here!

    • @avery8975
      @avery8975 Pƙed 2 lety +46

      jeremy cares about politics and art, woo.

    • @Nalinalinali
      @Nalinalinali Pƙed 2 lety +9

      fancy seeing you here!

    • @goodanytimej8688
      @goodanytimej8688 Pƙed 2 lety +77

      And Kelly Antoinette-slaughter said of the pregnant employee (let them eat lemon cake..... At the office)😉

  • @RaistlinMajereFistandantilus
    @RaistlinMajereFistandantilus Pƙed 2 lety +106

    The Joker: "We live in a society"
    Foucault: "Write that down, write that down!"

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange Pƙed rokem +8

      If you rearrange the letters in “The Joker” and add some new ones, it spells “Focault”

  • @shan8130
    @shan8130 Pƙed 2 lety +161

    The “Side Dish” with Kelly Slaughter was incredible, Abi. It’s a little funny, a little hard to watch because I wanna punch her in the face, but the best part is the subtle nudges toward the idea that while she’s part of the problem, she’s also ultimately still victim of a hustle culture that bleeds into our every day lives and encourages a fascistic approach to self discipline. It’s just *chef’s kiss*

  • @laurastacey683
    @laurastacey683 Pƙed 2 lety +2534

    One example of how deep the pressure for women goes:
    I was showing my mom an outfit for a wedding and her first response was: "I don't like it. It makes you look huge! It's so unflattering. You should go with something else."
    And I was like, "I'm 32 weeks pregnant?!"

    • @Ada-tv7zl
      @Ada-tv7zl Pƙed 2 lety +181

      that needs to stop! this whole putting each other down. I'm sure you would have looked lovely in that dress.

    • @kendallgilligan8132
      @kendallgilligan8132 Pƙed 2 lety +175

      It was only in moving away from my family that I was able to start dressing in a way that felt right to me. And on the occasions when I see my mother and she says something like that, I now have the confidence to say, “Yes. I look fat in this outfit, because I’m fat. There isn’t going to be less of me if I wear a different outfit.” I’ve also come to realize that the people who are most disgusted by fat people who don’t try to cover up and hide themselves feel that way because they would hate themself if they were fat and don’t understand how someone could be fat and joyful.

    • @jdprettynails
      @jdprettynails Pƙed 2 lety +88

      This is why I'm TERRIFIED of inviting my mother to my wedding. I was a bridesmaid for my best friend's wedding a few years ago and when my mum saw the pictures on Facebook she said "Your hairstyle made you look old."
      Thanks Mum.

    • @RozWBrazel
      @RozWBrazel Pƙed 2 lety +45

      Hahaha
      that’s a funny joke
      ...she was joking, right?
      Tell me she was joking

    • @laurastacey683
      @laurastacey683 Pƙed 2 lety +26

      @@RozWBrazel She was not.

  • @TaylorAlexander
    @TaylorAlexander Pƙed 2 lety +1650

    “Apart from work what are you passionate about?”
    When I worked in Silicon Valley I would ask people at parties “what do you like to do for fun?” and consistently they would look at me and be a bit dazed. Like they hadn’t thought of such a thing in a long time. They usually didn’t have any answer. So that question really does hit spot on. đŸ‘ŒđŸŒ

    • @stuartpratuch7036
      @stuartpratuch7036 Pƙed 2 lety +99

      I remember another video that For Harriett did that talked about how a lot of people ask about "What's your job?" and it's terrifying in the other way cuz they're looking to some degree for you to say work so they feel validated in building THEIR entire life around work and good L*rd the codependency :(

    • @alexbrown1930
      @alexbrown1930 Pƙed 2 lety +143

      I have seen a couple women on dating sites have in their profiles "I'm an adult. I don't have hobbies." I really do not see how people can just live life with. Othing other than work. Yet, that is very much how society seems to be pushing people, not just women, but everyone.

    • @kenpanderz672
      @kenpanderz672 Pƙed 2 lety +69

      in many ways the toxic work culture, most noticeable in Japan, also effects many other modern nations like the US. part of the underlying effects of a hyper-capitalist system. money is god, and work is one of the only legitimate ways to make it. worshiping in the factories..

    • @blossom5779
      @blossom5779 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@stuartpratuch7036 do you know what video that is?

    • @ranne236
      @ranne236 Pƙed 2 lety +113

      Just as a different perspective, I sometimes freeze when I'm asked that question in a professional context because I don't really want to share my private hobbies in an office setting. I sew and don't particularly want to get bombarded with requests for free clothing repairs, I'm an activist in the BDSM community and that subject isn't really appropriate for work, and I'm a singer but I haven't done so in a while and do NOT want to be asked to sing impromptu (which has happened). But, I think what you're getting at is also totally a thing, and I'm not trying to disagree with you, just add my own experience.

  • @moshjitsu9487
    @moshjitsu9487 Pƙed 2 lety +88

    Thank you for this video, Abigail. I'm a man and a strength coach / mixed martial arts coach, who has just started to work with more women who want to learn how to fight, get physically fitter, or train to lift weights safely. A lot of the time a negative body image comes attached with these desires (from all genders I work with). It is heart breaking, to tell you the truth. This video, which I'll re-watch a few times I'm sure, has given me more insight into understanding how to approach their needs. I'll be honest, at times it has been a little upsetting listening to clients talk about themselves. I do my best to remain professionally, but tell them I'm the wrong person if they think I'm going to agree with how they're speaking about themselves. Personally, I do this job to help people feel empowered, stay safe, and have fun. So people can see their bodies as something to celebrate and enjoy, not punish with exercise or dieting. To be clear, I'm not a 'weight loss' coach nor would I like to be. I've suffered from body dysmorphia myself in the past and developed what was clearly an eating disorder to make weight for competitions most weekends. Obviously, this isn't about me though, it is about the people I serve. So, thank you for this video. It will certainly help my clients... And myself included - beard, muscles, and the rest of it. (Apologies for a self-indulgent comment. Just wanted to say thanks as I've been watching since lockdown 1, but never commented.)

  • @wadecrudgel6006
    @wadecrudgel6006 Pƙed 2 lety +124

    It's unbelievable just the level of effort that goes into these videos... watching the interview and hearing all of the little quips that are put in like "learning spanish to speak to the gardener", it's just so impressive

  • @lyingmongoose
    @lyingmongoose Pƙed 2 lety +1613

    Started at the bottom, just graduated Stanford. Priceless acting.

    • @crimsoninsight97
      @crimsoninsight97 Pƙed 2 lety +204

      The 180k in her bank account is what REALLY killed me. Like, there's some plausible deniability and simple ignorance from graduating an Ivy League school (maybe) but to say that you're at the bottom with THAT much money is some astounding ignorance, almost willful.

    • @cecilia7932
      @cecilia7932 Pƙed 2 lety +100

      @@crimsoninsight97 And the mom part! "She wasn't easy on me", amazing xD

    • @goodanytimej8688
      @goodanytimej8688 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      And Kelly Antoinette-Slaughter said of her pregnant employee "let her eat lemon cake..... At the office" 😉

    • @besacciaesteban
      @besacciaesteban Pƙed 2 lety +41

      I think it's a nod to bill gates dropping off an expensive college to a job his mommy landed him into in IBM. At least his a little bit honest in this, he always says people shouldn't drop out off school follow his steps, because he just got lucky with it.

    • @joewwilliams
      @joewwilliams Pƙed 2 lety +13

      The entire interview was glorious

  • @lilymanshel6146
    @lilymanshel6146 Pƙed 2 lety +3837

    "As a woman, if I am fat, it feels like I am disqualified from having gender."
    This brought actual tears to my eyes. As an AFAB person currently grappling with gender questions, I have frequently had to ask myself "Am I non-binary, or do I just feel like I'm failing to perform womanhood because I am fat?" I still don't have an answer.

    • @someonesomeone25
      @someonesomeone25 Pƙed 2 lety +93

      One of the reasons I stopped identifying as a man was because of my body. It wasn't, hasn't ever been, masculine enough.

    • @jmully9525
      @jmully9525 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      You're a woman, no matter what gender constructs you do or don't adhere to.

    • @someonesomeone25
      @someonesomeone25 Pƙed 2 lety +139

      @Dan Konnman I wouldn't say I dropped it like dropping a hat. It only occurred after decades of trying to be a man and failing, and after trauma. But regardless of the reasoning behind why my gender identity changed, change it did. And I'm happier this way.

    • @d.o.m.i.
      @d.o.m.i. Pƙed 2 lety +22

      i'm going through the same thing and it SUCKS

    • @b4rry420
      @b4rry420 Pƙed 2 lety +85

      @Dan Konnman are u actually asking a random stranger to just casually open up about their trauma?

  • @achilles4863
    @achilles4863 Pƙed 2 lety +28

    I'm a 19 y.o man who has been struggling with an eating disorder since the age of 11. This video put into perspective a concept that people often forget about: People with EDs don't develop them over fear or disgust towards fatness, but as a way to feel in control and discipline. I was obese when I first developed it and I'm rather thin now but I *feel* the same, and discovered that I wasn't disgusted of my body at my highest weight. I just had been gaslit into thinking I had "let myself go", and that feeling of "choosing recovery means to lose control" is what drives me away from it, even if my health and mental state had done nothing but decline through all these years I've had EDNOS. Society demonizes people with restrictive eating disorders (because they paint people with Binge eating disorders in a different, but equally negative light) because "they reinforce unachievable standards" instead of thinking that we, too, are the victims of these surreal ideals. Sorry for any broken english, not my first language.

  • @chestermightbeafrog
    @chestermightbeafrog Pƙed 2 lety +51

    "Denial is not just a river in Egypt." "That's the point," [holds up knife]. "In labour but not working." I love the effort that goes into these videos and the little jokes that keep it fun while making us think. Thanks 😊

  • @NowYouSeeIt
    @NowYouSeeIt Pƙed 2 lety +3618

    17:47 "As a woman, it feels like, If I'm fat, then I'm gonna be disqualified from having gender?"
    This observation made me think of Spirited Away, when Chihiro’s parents eat so much food that they transform into actual pigs, and the viewer can no longer tell the mom and dad apart. That scene was hard to re-watch with this video in mind. It made me wonder how many people watched that scene and felt insecure about their own eating.

    • @crowtalker
      @crowtalker Pƙed 2 lety +366

      100%, i love spirited away (+ studio ghibli in general) but that little scene is one of the few issues i have w/ the movie. personally i’ve struggled with body image, weight, and food since i was little, so that scene makes me feel deeply self-conscious.

    • @RozWBrazel
      @RozWBrazel Pƙed 2 lety +411

      gotta love that 'visual shorthand' thing films and books love to do with making greedy or evil characters fat

    • @messyhead3155
      @messyhead3155 Pƙed 2 lety +240

      I just thought about that scene earlier at dinner watching my parents devour their meals. I wondered if people with anorexia look at how other people eat with the same disgust the witch in spirited away looks at chihiros parents.
      Then I realized that I'm probably projecting. I'm the one disgusted with this seemingly boundless gluttony and full of guilt and shame around food (It's not quite disordered eating but I'm still a terrible emotional eater). This video will hopefully inspire some further soul searching for me.

    • @hectorroche7665
      @hectorroche7665 Pƙed 2 lety +77

      I did. When i was a kid that part traumatised me. And i don't know any names, but the transforming into pigs is clear in my mind. Fortunately it didn't leave for me any problems

    • @gigi3843
      @gigi3843 Pƙed 2 lety +43

      @@hectorroche7665 omg yeah i had the dvd of it growing up, but i could never get past that scene until i was a teenager. it would just upset me so much i would turn off the movie :(

  • @jadefalcon5166
    @jadefalcon5166 Pƙed 2 lety +1106

    As a women in tech, that CEO bit made me die a little on the inside. That this is what is shown as "success" to us, that this is the "ideal". If we don't overwork ourselves and forget about everything and everyone else in our lives, and look good while doing it, we'll never make it.
    Also was cheering that Abi ate the cake!

    • @adrenalynn1015
      @adrenalynn1015 Pƙed 2 lety +59

      I kept expecting her to eventually remember her children and say that’s her other passion (even as a cover) but nope. My mama heart also died a little. Whew that character was a little too well done!

    • @GuyNamedSean
      @GuyNamedSean Pƙed 2 lety +32

      That character was so good that I kept forgetting it was a character for a moment and started feeling ire toward her.

    • @RozWBrazel
      @RozWBrazel Pƙed 2 lety +18

      @@GuyNamedSean _Acting!_ 👌

    • @Daughter_of_Stories
      @Daughter_of_Stories Pƙed 2 lety +56

      @@GuyNamedSean Oh my god, the bits about maternity leave were genuinely horrifying. Like, she mentioned being in the office the day after giving birth, and I was like, does... does your job not require you to sit down? Or stand up? And then she mentioned "leading by example," and an employee who wanted maternity leave, and I was like, "oh, fuuuuuu--"

    • @juliapoo6780
      @juliapoo6780 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      Its like girlboss feminism merely switches the "ideal self" from one of conventional beauty and feminity with an equally toxic one of constant grinding and productivity "against all odds". In both cases, there is genuine pleasure and a sense of accomplishment, the latter being "successful" despite being a women, but is ultimately unfulfilling, unattainable and causes so much pain

  • @wittmannger1331
    @wittmannger1331 Pƙed 2 lety +97

    The whole weight thing absolutely works for men as well. When I lost a ton of weight I was so surprised just how easier my social interactions became. Like people actually willing to offer genuine help even without asking its honestly amazing.

    • @Xune2000
      @Xune2000 Pƙed rokem +12

      I went from 115kg to 80kg. Women will make eye contact with me now and sometimes even smile. Before, I was invisible.

  • @marsdion6337
    @marsdion6337 Pƙed rokem +89

    As someone who’s had a restrictive eating disorder for 7 years and been hospitalized multiple times, you eating the cake at the end made me very emotional. Logically I know that you did something good, you’ve shown yourself doing something so many of us are scared to do (ate publicly), and at the same time my ed brain feels anxiety and fear (almost as if I am you, and I am the one who ate the cake). It’s genuinely terrifying, but it’s just a piece of cake.

  • @madeline6951
    @madeline6951 Pƙed 2 lety +1219

    omg, housewife and girlboss "ideals" contrasted with self reflection in front of a literal mirror is just so good

    • @keremmadran
      @keremmadran Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Ooh, would've totally missed that if not for this comment. Thanks.

    • @mokemohaveer1
      @mokemohaveer1 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      WandaVision vibes

    • @merlon8599
      @merlon8599 Pƙed 2 lety +23

      And the video is about beauty and the mirror is sorounded by beauty-products. This channel is one of the reasons i think that CZcams Videos have a future as art

    • @yuuri9064
      @yuuri9064 Pƙed 2 lety +24

      Oh, that's a great observation! Any thoughts on how the housewife character's scenes got a bit more colourful at times, but also went back to full greyscale?
      Oh, and I saw the cardboard cutout as a symbol of making people feel like they're always being watched. She refers to the cutout several times, never forgetting it, but also treating the cutout as a person (i.e like it was real). So she acts like she's being watched. Of course, there was an implied film crew, but I have no idea how it would fit into this.

    • @Matheus_Braz
      @Matheus_Braz Pƙed 2 lety +2

      How do yall get all that im struggling to understand like a quarter of what abby says its so frustrating

  • @mistrzynidugichrozkmin7440
    @mistrzynidugichrozkmin7440 Pƙed 2 lety +1833

    "there is a dark, addictive pleasure in being a little facist towards yourself"
    Hell. I mean. I knew this. I knew this since i was a teenager. But this is the first time I've heard someone say it and... it kinda hit me. Yeah.

    • @Mikathedog100
      @Mikathedog100 Pƙed 2 lety +90

      I've always said "self destruction can be very seductive," but I think I meant it more the way Abby worded it....and yes, to hear someone else say it, made me feel understood in a way I wish I hadn't, and definitely hit me.

    • @selahanany5645
      @selahanany5645 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@slappy8941 Oh, do seethe about it. the word policing is real.

    • @user-or4ut2qi3q
      @user-or4ut2qi3q Pƙed 2 lety

      ​@@slappy8941 you are right, the word has lost all meaning. I think they mean authoritarian.

    • @ace625
      @ace625 Pƙed 2 lety +28

      I don't know. Obviously people can go too far with controlling how they eat but in 2021 in the West and especially in the US, where food is cheap and everywhere, I kinda think some ability to control urges for food is useful. At what point is controlling eating "fascist" and at what point is it a healthy response that allows us to not die prematurely in an environment where food that is designed in a lab to be addictive is constantly thrown in our faces?

    • @PoetOfNoise
      @PoetOfNoise Pƙed 2 lety +30

      @@ace625 I think you're hitting an absolutely crucial point, which in the video is completely missing (with all the political economy behind the issue), thus it comes damn close to mistaking consumerism for progressivism! These are all just half-truths, because in nowaday's capitalism we have to manoeuvre through the double bind of both being incentivized to obsess over health, fitness, ego-managerialism and destructive beauty standards AND to binge away on addictive consumer goods, which ruin your health and facilitate apathy and a retreat to the comfort zone! If taken one-sidedly, both can conveniently be interpreted as "empowerment".

  • @loner419
    @loner419 Pƙed 2 lety +257

    That interview segment, especially the "generating value" portion, is exactly like my current employer.
    I'm expected to have 7 hour long calls with clients a day, with a 30 minute lunch and 2 15 minute breaks.
    They have a system where we're supposed to report how we're improving ourselves outside of the job.
    I've literally never done any of that horseshit. I'm not a fucking robot whose sole purpose is to generate value my entire existence.
    I want to fucking live. I want to see my friends and family.
    Sometimes I want to do fucking nothing, and when I'm off the clock, you don't get the fucking privilege to tell me I can't.
    This will likely get me fired in the long run, even though I've taken on extra work to cover for a coworker, but I'll fucking die on this hill.

    • @mithrae4525
      @mithrae4525 Pƙed rokem +16

      I work as a janitor at a fast food joint. No-one expects me to work or 'improve myself' on my time off. It's a dream job :)

    • @julzbehr6696
      @julzbehr6696 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

      Robot comes from the Serbian word robota: forced labor, or slavery

    • @aenea7407
      @aenea7407 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

      @@julzbehr6696actually the word “robot” comes from Czech writer Karel Čapek, but yeah, the etymological origin is in “robota” which is to work for somebody else and not getting paid.

    • @julzbehr6696
      @julzbehr6696 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

      @@aenea7407 huh, neat, I will remember that

  • @Prizzlesticks
    @Prizzlesticks Pƙed 2 lety +262

    Has anyone else had an eating disorder for like, twenty years, and there's no longer even a psychological component to it, it's just how you are now?
    Anyway. I hope one day, I can eat a slice of lemon cake on camera. That's an oddly courageous gesture. Good leading by example, Abby, and I hope you can find a really good support team to help you stay healthy.

    • @SoVidushi
      @SoVidushi Pƙed 2 lety +21

      It sucks to get so comfortable with a habit that destroys you. I hope you are doing better now, you are beautiful and powerful and have so much more to offer to the world and you deserve to be healthy.

    • @lemon_box
      @lemon_box Pƙed rokem +6

      I hope youre able to seek professional help with what you’re going through. You don’t have to live like that, I promise. Sending my best wishes.

    • @AnnaEmilka
      @AnnaEmilka Pƙed rokem +4

      I know I'm a year late to this comment, but if you see this - you might want to check out Of Herbs and Altars on YT. They are talking in depth about their own ED and how it changes you as a person when it's literally half of your life

    • @sparklingdeath1730
      @sparklingdeath1730 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +4

      I’ve had an ED (ARFID specifically) for pretty much my whole life (stories about my strange eating habits from the age of 3) and it coincides with my autistic sensory issues, and lemme tell you, it’s near impossible to break an ED when it’s an ingrained routine and also based off of traits that you can’t get rid of or just ‘talk it out’ with someone.
      I’d love to break a cycle that I know in the end will at least shorten my life, but it’s so difficult to do when literally every good eating option is inaccessible.
      I wish you good luck on your journey however, and hope that one day, I too can eat lemon cake

  • @poetrycomix5831
    @poetrycomix5831 Pƙed 2 lety +1097

    This is the best possible version of "Online Recipe That Goes Into Weird, Tangential Diatribes Before Finally Telling You How To Bake The Damn Cake".

    • @NotBamOrBing
      @NotBamOrBing Pƙed 2 lety +42

      Just letting you know that I read the word Diatribes like it's the name of an ancient Greek philosopher

    • @AngDevigne
      @AngDevigne Pƙed 2 lety +10

      If all of those weird tangent recipes were this good I would read them!

    • @koenahn
      @koenahn Pƙed 2 lety +2

      This could be an Adult Swim short

    • @poetrycomix5831
      @poetrycomix5831 Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Diatribes could often be seen with a lantern, searching for a man he could yammer at endlessly.

    • @nadalekene2446
      @nadalekene2446 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@NotBamOrBing pronounced “dy-ah-TRAH-baes”

  • @asiina
    @asiina Pƙed 2 lety +530

    "It feels like if I'm fat then I'm going to be disqualified from having gender."
    Whew, this one hit hard. As an obese ciswoman, I have often felt what I usually call involuntary androgyny, where I'm not recognized as a woman because I do not have a "proper" woman shape. I've been misgendered a lot because of it, and would often go out of my way to wear makeup and more feminine clothing (which is a whole other thing for obese women) in order to essentially more easily be identified as a woman by strangers, even if it's not what I wanted to do.
    Obese women's bodies are not recognized in society as women's bodies.

    • @myradeguzman4144
      @myradeguzman4144 Pƙed 2 lety +23

      Thank you for putting to words something that I couldn’t until I read your comments. It’s true, overcompensating for my “unfeminine” fat body is something I feel like I need to do, and I feel so much guilt when I feel like I fail at it.

    • @pinkmuffin9842
      @pinkmuffin9842 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      I know I might get a lot of hate from this but this isn't anyone's fault. There are ceratin biological indentifiers to tell a woman from a man and vice versa. The most telling thing are body proportions. I also have problems indentifying the gender of a morbidly anorexic person (I have been in a psychiatrie for a year, so I have seen a lot of them).
      If your body doesn't have the body proportions that it would have by exhibiting generally healthy behaviour or being generally healthy in terms of metabolism, it is no wonder that people can't identify your gender for sure.
      This does not by any means mean that they see you as less of a woman/man once they know what you are.

    • @sophcw
      @sophcw Pƙed 2 lety +20

      @@pinkmuffin9842 uh not ever woman or man has the same body size/shape??

    • @MarkusAldawn
      @MarkusAldawn Pƙed 2 lety +30

      @@pinkmuffin9842 I don't think the point is so much that there's someone to blame for the situation arising, as it is that the way we react to the situation arising is pretty shocking.
      Like, I'd make the case that the sidelining and ignoring of fat people (especially fat women, except as spectacle) is one of the things that makes it more difficult to recognise gender signifiers that aren't for stereotypical slim people.
      I'd also question your logic in pointing out 'healthy' weights (as far as I can tell, weight is how much you weigh and has only a weak correlation to health); gender has nothing to do with health, and it would feel very mean-spirited to tell a chemo patient "no wonder nobody can tell you're a woman, you've got no hair!"
      But really I think the main point is, as Abigail says in the video (and asiina and Myra and other point out in the comments), it's about a voice from inside and out telling you you can't be attractive or even really a full person, not (just) that you can't have a gender.

    • @pinkmuffin9842
      @pinkmuffin9842 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      @@sophcw I never said they had. I said that body proportions are an important factor to differentiate the sexes, just like an Adam's apple will tell you that you most likely have a man in front of you. But if you are trying to argue that people with xx-chromosomes (historically referred to as women) aren't overall similar compared to the differently built xy-people (commonly known as men), I can't help you or argue with you.
      But please, if body types don't matter, why would trans women get surgery/take hormones in order to get a bigger chest? If there aren't biological identifiers for male or female, why would they bother transitioning?

  • @RuthBaderWinsburg
    @RuthBaderWinsburg Pƙed 2 lety +38

    There are so many parallels surrounding the ways society views trans bodies and fat bodies--the disgust, the dehumanization. Fatphobia and transphobia go hand in hand. This video said a lot of things I've been thinking but never was able to fully flesh out. Thanks Abagail!

    • @catherinemccormick3184
      @catherinemccormick3184 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

      Hate ideologies always trend the same way unfortunately, it rarely ever remains in a vacuum (not that I’m saying it’s fine to be hateful as long as you only hate one group of people, it’s absolutely not).

  • @Thytos
    @Thytos Pƙed rokem +32

    35:35 "There is a dark addictive pleasure to being a little fascist towards yourself. So, it's not just that I feel pressured from outside to not eat the cake, it's that I have internalized [it]" That's how I feel about my Duolingo strike.

  • @NotJustBikes
    @NotJustBikes Pƙed 2 lety +4008

    I love the new girl boss character, Kelly Slaughter. We have the same last name. 😂
    That pause at the end is just {chef's kiss}

    • @victor_venema
      @victor_venema Pƙed 2 lety +100

      Love your videos. I knew living in The Netherlands is better, but did not understand how it was done. Thanks.

    • @stefanosanastasi99
      @stefanosanastasi99 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @UC915cV7a65OpwQ3dvJ3KMaQ ja we love to see it

    • @tryingmybestokay
      @tryingmybestokay Pƙed 2 lety +128

      Wow Not Just Bikes and Philosophytube, what a crossover! :D

    • @amadiohfixed1300
      @amadiohfixed1300 Pƙed 2 lety +30

      Wouldnt it be cool that all the characters came together to discuss some philosophical topic in one video

    • @oO0catty0Oo
      @oO0catty0Oo Pƙed 2 lety +27

      Pretty sure I went to law school with Kelly Slaughter

  • @siansaul4932
    @siansaul4932 Pƙed 2 lety +620

    « I mean look at Nigella, this is a completely unrealistic body standard for women - She’s only 5mm thick! » had me cackling

  • @binathiessen4920
    @binathiessen4920 Pƙed 2 lety +861

    Kelly Slaughter is more terrifying to me than the Arsonist. She's the most unnervingly chilling character I have seen in ages.

    • @dalstein3708
      @dalstein3708 Pƙed 2 lety +184

      The Arsonist is doing terrible things to other people, and he knows that he is bad.
      Kelly Slaughter is doing terrible things to others and to herself, and she thinks that she is good; very good.

    • @denshitenshi
      @denshitenshi Pƙed 2 lety +54

      It's the realism.

    • @neginsardar310
      @neginsardar310 Pƙed 2 lety +22

      And we have a lot of this girl in society

    • @akym82810
      @akym82810 Pƙed 2 lety +20

      She's a tad... obvious though isn't she? I get it in some ways because Abigail said she was worried that if she doesn't write a character with a giant "I AM A BAD PERSON" sign on them people might get the wrong idea, but the whole learning Spanish in two weeks to talk to the gardener seems... would anyone ever really say that? In a supposed interview? I get it she's going for the Connie Britton character in The White Lotus but in very obvious shorthand.

    • @Urmom-ty7ll
      @Urmom-ty7ll Pƙed 2 lety +23

      Ratatoskr the Squirrel of Doom she’s exaggerated, like any character. I don’t see what’s wrong with that

  • @hellomew
    @hellomew Pƙed rokem +20

    i was recently diagnosed with autism and adhd, most of my life i have been called stupid by nearly everyone around me for not processing information the same way as them. but your videos are just so eloquent and funny and make it so i always know what you and the philosophers and industries and ideas you talk about mean. thankyou for making philosophy accessible to me. thankyou for sharing your experiences and knowledge with the world. i love all of it.

  • @UnusVita
    @UnusVita Pƙed 2 lety +29

    I have been uncomfortably fat my whole life and I will admit that I cried when you talked about being denied the experience of gender.

    • @grafdrakulaii7545
      @grafdrakulaii7545 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Same and I thought I could escape it by working out and growing out a beard.. no I can’t i’m seriously confused

    • @ciacotriyallder2215
      @ciacotriyallder2215 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

      Same. Im not even very overweight but body dysmorphia makes me feel so damn unfeminine that im so so so ashamed of how i look and act and i hate being perceived. Not to mention that being as a woman unfeminine feels ugly.

  • @rosenberg2497
    @rosenberg2497 Pƙed 2 lety +876

    You really pulled off the look of a housewife that is dead in side with the clapping at the beginning. Iconic.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Look?
      It ain't no act.

  • @chuckdriesler6815
    @chuckdriesler6815 Pƙed 2 lety +546

    "I'm giving Foucault credit for this idea here, even though similar things were said earlier by the Joker."
    speechless 10/10

    • @finnpearce-zuazua340
      @finnpearce-zuazua340 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      I was dying

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander Pƙed 2 lety +7

      I'm da jokah babeh

    • @dmwmarchioni
      @dmwmarchioni Pƙed 2 lety +20

      The rule of three setup leading up to it as well. Very well executed.

    • @ScorpionViper1001
      @ScorpionViper1001 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Is there any greater contribution to philosophy than the Twin Boats Thought Experiment? He was bold enough to actually use two boats of people who could have killed each other for it.

    • @chuckdriesler6815
      @chuckdriesler6815 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@dmwmarchioni this is what got me I was not prepared

  • @sethharris813
    @sethharris813 Pƙed 2 lety +32

    I have a 14 year old daughter who is struggling with an eating disorder. She's been in and out of inpatient care for about a year and manages to do really well in the program but has been falling back into the eating disorder when back at home. I really appreciate the insights shared here and am grateful for a voice I feel can be trusted in Abigail. These times we live in are worrisome to say the least but Philosophy Tube is giving me some hope. Thank you so much for sharing parts of your personal journey, it gives us strength. (On a side note: that mock interview was soul crushing but I believe that's what was intended.)

  • @ebknightstar6177
    @ebknightstar6177 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    I'm NB, and it made me tear up a bit at the mention of eating a whole plate of food being seen as a victory or conquest for men and as failure for women, because as a kid I used to eat a lot food and make a show out of it to seem more masculine, and it only resulted in other people hammering the point home that it was not the lady-like thing to do and in fact I should feel bad about it. It's the type of things that hit hard when I look back to it now.

  • @sapphicfreckle
    @sapphicfreckle Pƙed 2 lety +1286

    "If I'm fat I'm disqualified from having gender"
    God I feel this so much. Even as a Cis lady, growing up as a fat girl was so hard. I felt like I wasn't 'good' enough to act or dress femininely. I would always want to, and had the desire to do my hair prettily or wear dresses and put on makeup- especially as a teen- but when I did I would find myself looking in the mirror and hating myself. I'd be so ashamed at the thought of someone seeing me like that, of them witnessing me having the audacity to try and present myself like other girls when my body looked the way it did.
    These feelings kept me from dressing and presenting in a way that I truly wanted for my entire adolescence. It took until nearly the age of 22 before I could dress- and present my femininity in a way that made me truly happy without the feelings of shame and inadequacy convincing me to hide myself behind baggy masculine clothing. The feelings have never truly left, I still feel sometimes when I look at myself that I'm not 'worthy' of dressing in a feminine way. Whatever that means. --But! I'm much better at not listening to it now.
    Idk where I'm going with this comment- I don't usually overshare on the internet like this. That line just stuck with me throughout the whole video.

    • @locomadman
      @locomadman Pƙed 2 lety +42

      You too, huh? Abby struck home for me when she talked about loosing a dangerous amount of weight in college. Hard to feel masculinity when you’re smaller than you were as an awkward, gangly teenager, let me tell you. And Abby had to experience both ends of that spectrum..! Gotta be rough.

    • @clementineblue5139
      @clementineblue5139 Pƙed 2 lety +44

      I can relate so much to your experience, having grown and lived my entire life as a cis fat woman it was the first thing i thought of as well.
      I never wanted to present particularly feminine, but felt I had no right to any gender identity or presentation whatsoever because no matter what, womanhood had no space for me in it.
      Took me until 22-23 as well.

    • @moeszyslak3097
      @moeszyslak3097 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      God I relate to this so much, even the timeline is the same. I'm a fat cis lesbian and my life partner is a trans woman, and I think one of the (many) reasons we relate so deeply to each other is that we both had to make the active conscious choice to allow ourselves womanhood and femininity. I feel like I don't really understand women for whom gender has always just been a given

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      I am solidly "chubby" and I have curbed my period chocolate habit with iron supplements but cravings were unsettling.

    • @clsisman
      @clsisman Pƙed 2 lety +15

      I’m 29 and I’m still there. Thank you for this comment because is describes the feeling so well. Reading was like, “oh look, THERE ARE OTHERS”

  • @WhimsicalBlades
    @WhimsicalBlades Pƙed 2 lety +356

    "What drives you?"
    "My driver's name is Jaquline. She's really cool."
    I CACKLED. Fucking gold.

    • @yuvalne
      @yuvalne Pƙed 2 lety +1

      +

    • @Timby_
      @Timby_ Pƙed 2 lety +20

      The implication that she’s only a “what” and not a “who” to Kelly is SO telling lmao

    • @fairycat23
      @fairycat23 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Timby_ It's the little things that cause me to exclaim stuff that my parents have to tune out

  • @jamesbaldwin9197
    @jamesbaldwin9197 Pƙed rokem +17

    Abigail this video really spoke to me. I’m a cis man who has struggled with anorexia and gone through a long process of recovery and hearing about your struggles makes me feel less alone

  • @ConstellationAnimations
    @ConstellationAnimations Pƙed 2 lety +158

    To your point, I haven't been able to get top surgery because my insurance won't cover it due to my BMI being a whopping...1 point above their "requirement". Even though removing my chesticles would basically resolve that difference immediately, and I haven't had any issues that are supposedly the concerns with "high BMI". It's all malarkey that's been debunked by health experts, but it doesn't stop my insurance from keeping me from getting medically necessary surgeries and healthcare. :/ I've also had a dermatologist deny a minor surgery to deal with my hidradenitis (which was not as bad two years ago as it has gotten now) because, as he so eloquently phrased it in the most professional of manners, "You're just fat and need to lose weight. You don't need surgery."
    Anyway, thanks for the recipe. I'm gonna do some spite baking later. đŸ€˜đŸŽ‚

    • @ashtonmccormick787
      @ashtonmccormick787 Pƙed 2 lety +33

      @Despize Perform Losing Weight =/= Eating Less =/= Healthy
      I don't know what your generalized question is meant to be asking. If eating less resolves a problem and a doctor recommends it, that's fine.
      Example: If you have a cold, and a doctor recommends eating less solid foods in order to prevent healing complications, that makes sense.
      On the other hand, and to the point this video and my comment were making, if your doctor sees that you have been diagnosed with asthma and have not reported any physical ailments that could have any correlation to your weight and decides to tell you to "lose weight" rather than refill your prescription for your asthma medication, it's a problem*.
      *That's an actual situation that has happened in real life. This kind of thing isn't a joke and it's not up for debate. The way fat people are treated in medical spaces is absolutely abhorrent and needs to be seriously evaluated and restructured.

    • @ashtonmccormick787
      @ashtonmccormick787 Pƙed 2 lety +26

      @Despize Perform Except that in my case, my primary care physician and another surgeon (who was, unfortunately, not covered by my insurance) told me that it happens in all body types - like it did when I was a thin 16 year old. It had nothing to do with my weight.
      Unfortunately, the person that was covered by my insurance didn't even attempt a conversation with me. They looked at me, said I didn't need surgery to remove the issue, I needed to lose weight - contradicting two other professional medical opinions - but because he was the one covered, I couldn't do anything about it.
      It's upsetting to have to go into that level of detail to have a statement about my medical experience validated, but what else is new.

    • @matmurray717
      @matmurray717 Pƙed rokem +2

      Spite baking is the best kind of baking.

    • @rosevan7845
      @rosevan7845 Pƙed rokem +5

      Mmmmm spite baking... spite cake, spite brownies, spite lemon squares.... I hope you brought enough for the whole class!!!!

  • @firefly1313130
    @firefly1313130 Pƙed 2 lety +198

    The philosopher James Stephanie Sterling has mentioned something about eating in public that really resonated with me and my hang-ups: they said that when someone sees them eat, they imagine the person thinking "I knew it, I knew you eat food. That's why you're fat."

    • @Robstafarian
      @Robstafarian Pƙed 2 lety +42

      Thank god for them.

    • @evanbradley6169
      @evanbradley6169 Pƙed 2 lety +47

      I used to work at a buffet, and my manager once asked me to grab a plate of pears for her because her husband's family was sitting at the table closest to them.
      I asked if she didn't like her husband's family, and she said "I don't want them to know that I eat"

  • @whitevelcro6182
    @whitevelcro6182 Pƙed 2 lety +2132

    While the video was supposed to be about food, it's amazing how hard the exact same concepts hit me as a survivor of religious trauma and extremely fundamentalist religion. The unattainable ideal self. The sense of pleasure and superiority in self-denial. The psychology feels like it's exactly the same for some reason.

    • @alexshane5713
      @alexshane5713 Pƙed 2 lety +39

      Oh you're right

    • @maleahlock
      @maleahlock Pƙed 2 lety +16

      Yes and yes.

    • @candyh4284
      @candyh4284 Pƙed 2 lety +95

      BINGO! it's all about being taught to police yourself, like the panopticon

    • @ernie39
      @ernie39 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      absolutely :'-/

    • @danemeow8
      @danemeow8 Pƙed 2 lety +58

      there was actually a sort of idea in the middle ages of women becoming saintly or godly through specifically denying themselves the "pleasure" of eating. they would be touted as unattainable paragons of beauty and saintly suffering and ideal temperament and discipline. so the link between denying the precise "pleasure" of eating and religion is very old. i mean one of the worst sins is labelled "gluttony"....

  • @roundsdm
    @roundsdm Pƙed 2 lety +32

    Ive struggled with anorexia my entire life, i started “dieting” because I didn’t feel like i was worth as much as the girls that were 5-10 lbs less than me when i was 9, thank you SO much for this video❀

  • @missmacapaca
    @missmacapaca Pƙed rokem +20

    i genuinely teared up watching you eat that cake. I've never struggled with an ED and hopefully never will and yet I have struggled with the fact that I am fat and therefore I should have an ED or something that will make me lose weight so I can be desireable by the standards of society. Which is completely fucked up. I am the biggest I have ever been, mostly because I was a teenager until recently and therefore my body is becoming it's adult version. But I am slowly allowing myself to not be gripped by the need to be thin and to try and shake my disordered eating habits and thinking patterns. Thank you for making this video and for being so vulnerable. Just thank you. I am still a bit teary eyed now, typing this up. Much love.

  • @ZPM7
    @ZPM7 Pƙed 2 lety +800

    I know this is by and large talking about fatness as women experience it, but as a man who has been fat for just about as long as I can remember, this spoke to me quite deeply. For most of my life, I've felt like a non-entity because I'm fat. More than being disqualified from gender I just... I felt disqualified from practically all social interactions. I felt, still feel often, that I shouldn't be perceived, that I was not a person that should be befriended or loved or desired. I felt, and still often feel, repulsive, off-putting, lucky to only be ignored. And when I did end up getting attention, it scared me. It didn't make sense, it made me think I was being made a joke of, pranked or something. Even now, as a grown man, sometimes getting positive attention from people feels wrong, it makes my heart race and I find myself looking for the nearest exit. I still struggle with the self-esteem problems from growing up like that. The shame is powerful, I think a lot of folks don't realize just how powerful it is. It has defined and controlled the vast majority of my life thus far, and I'm not fully out from under its shadow.

    • @infwhale9183
      @infwhale9183 Pƙed 2 lety +16

      IMO You look just fine the way you are. Good luck with your struggles.

    • @Joe-vm6ds
      @Joe-vm6ds Pƙed 2 lety +63

      I remember how people started treating me nicer after I lost weight, at first it was great but it saddened me to realize that it was just because of internalized fatphobia. You’re valid just the way you are Zetch, I hope you find yourself out of that shadow one day soon and are happy with who you are

    • @tatabrsouza
      @tatabrsouza Pƙed 2 lety +58

      Likewise, your comment was about your experience as a fat person, but as a trans person I personally deeply related to the feelings you described, as I frequently find myself feeling inhuman, and wishing I could never be perceived. They're obviously not the same thing, but with transness being so often tied to one's body and appearance, I feel kinship with the fight of fat activists, as I feel both trans liberation and fat liberation are intrinsically connected. From what I've seen, many experiences that trans people have, namely with regards to medical care, mirror those of fat people- like with what we like to call the "trans broken arm syndrome". I think this quote by Marsha P. Johnson is relevant: "No pride for some of us without liberation for all of us." Thank you for your comment, and have a nice day :)

    • @scaryteri8
      @scaryteri8 Pƙed 2 lety +33

      @@Joe-vm6ds Agreed. I was furious with how a couple of my guy friends at university who had previously treated me like 'just one of the boys' suddenly tried to Netflix and chill me or make out when they got me alone after I lost weight. The worst part is they KNEW me as a person and still didn't have sexual/romantic feelings towards me until I lost a bunch of weight (50lbs). So who I am was never good enough, I had to be thin to be acknowledged as a woman and my value as a person validated. Fuck I hate the way this world/biology/cismen work. -____- I've decided to be happy with who I am at any size and simply stop dating.

    • @kaydenl6836
      @kaydenl6836 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Joe-vm6ds people will also often treat you better after you quit smoking. Because people don’t like having to deal with the health problems of those around them.

  • @deboraandradecaetano5592
    @deboraandradecaetano5592 Pƙed 2 lety +1717

    As a psychologist, I'm always happy to see how Abigail is sensitive and has a incredible approach to promote social mental health by philosophically questioning the reality. I'm amazed by the high level of comments, I keep learning with everyone here. And Abigail's joy is so wonderful that her laughter at the end made my day. 🍰

    • @thelittlewateringhole5576
      @thelittlewateringhole5576 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      Dear DĂ©bora Andrade Caetano:
      This is not real interaction between you and Abigail Thorne:
      DĂ©bora Andrade Caetano: "Let me see what you have there Ms. Thorne."
      Abigail Thorne: "A Knife! 🍋🍰"
      DĂ©bora Andrade Caetano: "... Okay?"
      Abigail Thorne: "... And a Lemon-cake. đŸ”Ș"

    • @juniorqindes8335
      @juniorqindes8335 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      This isn’t philosophy. .-.

    • @butasimpleidiotwizard
      @butasimpleidiotwizard Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@juniorqindes8335 no the video itself is not philosophy but there is philosophy in it which it uses to discuss it's point which is exactly what this comment was complimenting her on

    • @juniorqindes8335
      @juniorqindes8335 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@butasimpleidiotwizard ah, I can get behind that. Thanks for clearing it up for me

    • @butasimpleidiotwizard
      @butasimpleidiotwizard Pƙed 2 lety

      @@HollyOak can you try and reword that because I'm not sure that question makes sense

  • @vel7866
    @vel7866 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +5

    I actually cried when you finally eat the cake. Thank you for being you and always sharing your knowledge with us!

  • @madryael
    @madryael Pƙed 2 lety +26

    By the way, I wanted to mention that I love the way you've colorized the baking sequences to reflect your emotional state, so that the color corresponds to what is closest to what real life is and the b&w is the "produced" reality given to us by the panopticon/social constructs/biopower.

  • @Mark-tm8fi
    @Mark-tm8fi Pƙed 2 lety +536

    Unfortunately, that girlboss interview is barely hyperbole. Her mindset about only having passion for work and for making use of every waking moment to develop skills is exactly how my dad treats life. The unfortunate thing about it is there's never going to be a point where they reach what they've been searching for, since, like Abby said, the ideal self can never be reached. They're just going to work themselves into the ground. On their deathbed, they'll look back on life, and realize how unfulfilled they are with it. The passions they left undeveloped, the friendships and special moments with others they missed out on, the vacations they worked straight through, all for a slightly bigger paycheck at the end of the month.
    I wouldn't mind it so much if that wasn't the mindset he imposed on me and my siblings.

    • @pahvi3
      @pahvi3 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      My dad too...

    • @mendoxei
      @mendoxei Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Im like that too, but not for the normal reasons. In any case i would never impose that mindset on anyone, esp. my children :/

    • @pavelmeyer9197
      @pavelmeyer9197 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      My Dad has a similar problem. But because he is an activist it's really hard to tell him to stop? Because it's not just for a higher paycheck but for climate justice (and my future) it's really hard to tell him to engage more in life outside of work.

    • @diskoars7145
      @diskoars7145 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Literally me. But my anxiety is so ingrained now that even though I've moved out, if I'm not working or working on myself I feel physically ill. So I've just resigned myself to living to work, and happiness not being a priority. Sucks how much upbringing can mess with your head.

    • @Ermude10
      @Ermude10 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      I don't have any issue with striving for something that can never be reached. I'm into many different artforms, and I'm constantly looking to improve and push further. But I think the "unfulfilled" part is on the spot. Work and productivity for its own sake is not something that can satisfy you by itself. You might be doing work that can help others, or improve something, and those can surely be things to strive for, but working and being productive for its own sake is only done out of some idea that that's what being successful means in our society. It's an external goal imposed on you, and probably without you realizing it.

  • @magpiefabric
    @magpiefabric Pƙed 2 lety +510

    "Knowing that you're wrong but believing it anyway. It's called being English."
    Cuttin' me deep.

    • @noorykorky5056
      @noorykorky5056 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I love the fact that she is English and unafraid to say it. The most truly liberal people, in my opinion, are people who call out their own countries.

    • @GreaterSeraph
      @GreaterSeraph Pƙed 2 lety +9

      "This is America! We don't stop doing the wrong thing when we learn it's wrong! We keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right!"
      - Ed Wuncler I, the American counterpart to this quote

    • @fphoellyickx8982
      @fphoellyickx8982 Pƙed 2 lety

      like a cake

  • @jessicakurian1248
    @jessicakurian1248 Pƙed 2 lety +17

    It feels weird that being beautiful is such a big thing. When people say everyone is beautiful, i just feel like, why is beauty such a big thing for us? We're fine with not being good at certain things, like playing sports. But beauty ends up being something everyone wants. No one can accept without sadness that they are not pretty. No one wants to say I'm not pretty, i don't want to be pretty.

  • @silviusuelbus3108
    @silviusuelbus3108 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    Nobody:
    The ancient Romans watching Abigail’s video: “Quid dicis?”

  • @TheDrLeviathan
    @TheDrLeviathan Pƙed 2 lety +549

    Kelly Slaughter is the most on point character I've seen in a while, in any media.

    • @janegarnham
      @janegarnham Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Agree

    • @jean_etcetera
      @jean_etcetera Pƙed 2 lety +11

      Ikr?? I even forgot she was Abigail.

    • @PhosphorAlchemist
      @PhosphorAlchemist Pƙed 2 lety +21

      Kelly Slaughter is freaking terrifying in her realism. Love the technique of a candid conversation with the interviewer promising to polish up the portrayal.

    • @missybarbour6885
      @missybarbour6885 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      I can vouch for her "trust fund baby" American accent too. It's a very specific one, and Abby nailed it. I guess that drama school worked!

  • @Hexane88
    @Hexane88 Pƙed 2 lety +1243

    As a linguist: The American accent with the vocal fry during the Fierce Interview is absolutely mind-melting.
    As a recovering anorexic: Seeing you eat that cake brought tears to my eyes. Thank you.

    • @Bakucryptid77
      @Bakucryptid77 Pƙed rokem +39

      Her accent there fascinated me too, it’s like an uncanny valley for certain dialects (not a knock at all abigayles regular voice is lovely) if you wouldn’t mind answering are there some things you noticed that you can point out that make it sound weird? I tried to pinpoint WHY it sounded so close but not quite there but didn’t have the knowledge to articulate it lol

    • @m.s.5370
      @m.s.5370 Pƙed rokem +19

      That's so interesting! As someone whose second language is English, I struggle with telling some accents apart, especially American ones. So, I did notice something about that scene, but until I read this comment, I was quite sure I'd imagined it (Of course I can tell Abigail is British).

    • @dragonflies6793
      @dragonflies6793 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Bakucryptid77 I wonder if part of it is long vowels?

  • @carmillaaa
    @carmillaaa Pƙed 2 lety +11

    As someone who is now finally recovered from anorexia after three damn years, I wanna thank you so much for this video. I know finally understand what made it so addictive. It made me sort of feel superior to people around me even though I was extremely physically weak, probably weaker than anyone around me, but I still felt like the mentally strongest person in the room. It felt like restriciting myself made me a better person, even though it was the most self-centered thing to do, but I told myself that because I did it to myself and hurt no one else it was a morally good thing to do which sounds terrible know that I do some self-reflection without the intention of self-harm.
    Even in the worst moments, there was this thing I could rely on, this validation my disorder gave me, and that was it what stopped me from letting go of it, there was something comforting about it that made me enjoy the suffering.
    Now I‘ve reached the point where I try to find fulfillment in less destructive things, because yes @14-year-old-me, that is possible.
    And now, as I am understanding what makes destructivity appear desirable, I understand it and ,,indulge in it“ from time to time without the fear of entirely being controlled by it again and that is just making me feel free again.

  • @WinningSidekick
    @WinningSidekick Pƙed 2 lety +29

    I really relate on the point about overperforming your agab before the egg cracks; for a while I wondered if all my complicated feelings about gender just came down to feeling like I was ugly or bad at being woman. I starved myself and wore skirts every day, but I was still miserable. I only started feeling less miserable when I was able to admit to myself that I wanted to be a man. (Which, wow, considering how much I would stress about gaining weight on my chest in particular I really feel like I could've figured it out sooner lmao)
    Great video as always. Thank you for posting, and I'm sorry it took me this long to watch it. Your work has been really good for as long as I can remember, and it's only getting better.

  • @upandenergy
    @upandenergy Pƙed 2 lety +215

    "I was in labor but I'm not working" is such a brilliant line. Despite literally being called "labor," literally GIVING BIRTH AND CREATING ANOTHER PERSON is not as seen as "work" if it doesn't contribute to the standard of clout-gaining "work" set by this hustle culture.
    She interpreted "WHAT drives you?" as her driver, showing that she sees this service worker as a "what" and not a "who." Amazingly written, Abby.

    • @brennam954
      @brennam954 Pƙed 2 lety +19

      Exactly! It's so incredibly patriarchal, that the incredible physical and emotional sacrifices that women make to have children is completely undervalued and not seen as labor or worthy of having protections. I'm not saying that women are better or deserve to be put on a pedestal or something for having children (as I know someone in the comments is going to try to straw man to miss my point), but just that those sacrfices (and dangers) are completely ignored, the epitome being that we have piss poor family leave policies (in the U.S. at least) and women are expected to go back to work instead of phsyically recovering and bonding with their baby.

    • @JanusKastin
      @JanusKastin Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Also, if caring for children wasn't work, she wouldn't pay a nanny to do it for her.

    • @brennam954
      @brennam954 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      @@JanusKastin In addition, neglect wouldn't be a literal crime if looking after children isn't work.

  • @EvanC881
    @EvanC881 Pƙed 2 lety +696

    As a trans man, I was so relieved to hear that you actually worked so hard to perform manhood before coming out to yourself and starting your transition. I have only heard trans stories about how people "always knew they were this way" and, for transmasc people, were often tomboys growing up, but I was a TOTAL femme girl with makeup and heels and dresses before I transitioned. It makes me feel better that I'm not alone in that experience of hyper gendered performance pre-transition.

    • @tonymongoose2481
      @tonymongoose2481 Pƙed 2 lety +51

      Oh same here! I’m a trans man and I, pre social transition, was super feminine in how I presented myself. As well as being a sort of semi-subconscious way of trying to convince myself that I was a girl, I think it was also a kind of defense mechanism as, if I didn’t look or act masculinely, no one could judge and dissect my true self which I was more insecure about. Like, it didn’t really matter if people judged me for how I presented my femininity because deep down I knew that wasn’t an outwards presentation of my true self, it was more like a costume, or even armour. Showing my masculinity would’ve left me open to judgement on it and I wasn’t secure enough in my masculinity let alone my identity as a man to feel comfortable having that scrutinised. Obviously I know that our experiences are unlikely to be exactly the same (life and people are far too wonderfully complex for that) but I thought I’d share my experiences in case any of it resonated with you as what you said resonated with me. Hope you’re having a good day/evening/night.

    • @alexshane5713
      @alexshane5713 Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Lots of us spend years trying to "archive womanhood" only to find it impossible or to realize that reaching it made us miserable. It's a form of coping for lots of trans people that is not talked about enough. I'm glad Abigail decided to include that part

    • @modchmod777
      @modchmod777 Pƙed 2 lety +45

      Non-binary person here. I spent years trying to be a "manly man". Trying to get buff, drinking whisky, and growing a big beard. Then I thought I was a trans woman and tried to go the other way. I wore stereotypically feminine clothes, I started wearing make up for the sake of it, I had super long hair (I didn't cut or look after my hair for years pre-transition), and I even lost a lot of weight. I once caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror and I looked way more feminine than I actually was. It gave me a familiar sense of dysphoria as seeing my pre-HRT face. Ultimately neither made me happy and in the end I settled into what I consider an "androgynous" style and am much happier now, even if most people misgender me initially.

    • @JhericFury
      @JhericFury Pƙed 2 lety +13

      I don't normally speak for my sister because I'm not her, but she did the same thing before coming out. Going to the gym and getting super buff, growing a big beard, so you're definitely not alone.

    • @JhericFury
      @JhericFury Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I don't normally speak for my sister because I'm not her, but she did the same thing before coming out. Going to the gym and getting super buff, growing a big beard, so you're definitely not alone.

  • @EveMizgala
    @EveMizgala Pƙed 2 lety +19

    "DO NOT HASAN PIKER ME!"
    I frequently remember this line, laugh, and immediately go on a short Philosophy Tube binge.

    • @mollusckscramp4124
      @mollusckscramp4124 Pƙed rokem

      I've been scouring comments as I'm aware of Hasanabi but have no idea what this means... please explain lol

    • @EveMizgala
      @EveMizgala Pƙed rokem

      @@mollusckscramp4124 There was some drama a while back about Hasan having too much money to call himself a leftist. It was a sad attempt to cancel him. Abi was making a joke by suggesting that living in a hole in the ground would be enough to get the same reaction.

  • @__8120
    @__8120 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Your American accent has gotten a lot better since "I love this guy! Do you want a free hotdog? Do you want to hold my gun?"

  • @nancytribe
    @nancytribe Pƙed 2 lety +700

    Side note: as someone with that quite specific American woman accent myself, the way Kelly Slaughter says "and" in particular is perfect. SHUDDER

    • @Everysinglepersonismyenemy
      @Everysinglepersonismyenemy Pƙed 2 lety +19

      ‘iynd’

    • @RowdyBoy82
      @RowdyBoy82 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      Ayund

    • @nicolette7007
      @nicolette7007 Pƙed 2 lety +24

      i spend lots of time with the study of diction (for opera) and have to deal with foreign languages/accents all the time, and i can attest to the fact that the American [a] in "and/can" is lowkey the single hardest sound for foreigners to imitate, even for english-speaking brits. and she NAILED it. I’m truly blown away. diction is so hard, y'all-even when you think you have a knack for it

    • @Nina.playdead
      @Nina.playdead Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Scary good ngl

    • @L3onking
      @L3onking Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@nicolette7007 I'm Pacific Canadian and our accent is pretty neutral but I STRUGGLE with the American "a" too.

  • @Karolina-qr5pz
    @Karolina-qr5pz Pƙed 2 lety +519

    Not gonna lie, Kelly's angry face whenever she got asked an uncomfortable question made me chuckle

    • @vfaulkon
      @vfaulkon Pƙed 2 lety +42

      It hits different after you watch the whole thing - even her anger seems deadened, because she's effectively turned off her emotions in pursuit of her goals. I mean, what kind of mother could say 'yes you're in labor, but you're not working' without a hint of irony?

    • @ProfDCoy
      @ProfDCoy Pƙed 2 lety +9

      Yeah, I saw it less as anger and more as setting her face and mind into a blank mask at the sudden threat of emotion and introspection.

    • @brennam954
      @brennam954 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@vfaulkon I thought Kelly's portrayal was so well done. On the one hand, she lives a life of incredible privilege and has the means ($$$) and power to influence women's lives. On the other hand, she is somewhat a victim herself and indoctrinated with patriarchal, capitalist norms/beliefs. Rather than get to a position of power and try to challenge the whole system, she instead settles for self-enrichment at the expense of helping others get to where she is.

  • @faye5518
    @faye5518 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Sobbed watching this. Thank you for putting what has been floating around in my mind and driving me mad into words. I feel so affirmed in myself, that what I've been struggling with actually exists and is something others face too

  • @Blooborbs
    @Blooborbs Pƙed 2 lety +17

    I was originally gonna start this comment by saying "This might be weird, but..." and changed my mind because I don't think it's weird at all, but it meant a lot to see you eat that cake on screen. So, as much as it was for you as well, I appreciate it. Thank you!

  • @YouSting
    @YouSting Pƙed 2 lety +1433

    At the end, when you were eating the cake, I asked myself: "Watching this woman eat her cake, what are you thinking? Are you reproaching her? Do you feel like she should hold herself back?" ...and what I got was: "I want to know if she's enjoying the cake." And when you said afterward "that's some really good cake", it was SO satisfying to hear. :D

    • @noviatoria2436
      @noviatoria2436 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      +

    • @mrchoon2010
      @mrchoon2010 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      There's nothing wrong with a bit of cake if you're healthy. It's a nice treat

    • @cerineko7984
      @cerineko7984 Pƙed 2 lety +106

      @@mrchoon2010 Even if someone is unhealthy, it doesn't matter. Some people (like me) are incapable of being healthy because of chronic illnesses. To equate health to morality would render us unable to enjoy ''treats'' for an ideal we will never be able to achieve no matter how hard we try.

    • @cerineko7984
      @cerineko7984 Pƙed 2 lety +47

      @Dan Konnman your eye sight is worse than mine then

    • @churrozconchocolate1743
      @churrozconchocolate1743 Pƙed 2 lety +50

      @@cerineko7984 don't feed the troll. just report their transphobia.

  • @thegoosegirl42
    @thegoosegirl42 Pƙed 2 lety +271

    My therapist: Abi's American accent can't hurt you
    Abi's American accent: liyfstayl gowals

    • @snowpocalypse69
      @snowpocalypse69 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      Every time she says "eeand" I cry

    • @The1nvisibleJeevas
      @The1nvisibleJeevas Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Everyone is complimenting the content of the Kelly interview but my accent-obsessed-self was hyperfocused on “and” and “so” lmao. She did very well with the accent, all things considered. But little Abby-isms would poke through every now and again and it was fascinating.

  • @spingspong9706
    @spingspong9706 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    It made me so genuinely happy to see you eat that slice of cake, especially after you having been brave enough to say how you fear it despite knowing that rationally you shouldn't. Thank you so much, and well done!

  • @slaythedayaway04
    @slaythedayaway04 Pƙed rokem +3

    this video is a year old now and it’s made me reflect on myself. im a long time fan and since this video came out ive nearly died and been to eating disorder rehab twice. every day can be a challenge but thank you Abby for making this one a little better. everything you said feels so true and raw that it’s honestly inspiring. watching this video i was motivated to grab a snack and even take my insulin (diabulemia is one of my eds) so thank you. i love your content and this video in particular, it’s cool to see how far ive come over the past year.

  • @batfamiliar
    @batfamiliar Pƙed 2 lety +806

    When I was a teenager and still identified as a cis women, I could see that being fat resulted in people denying me womenhood. I was never particularly bothered by it, and now I know it's because I never wanted womenhood in the first place. But when you are able to put womenhood aside you realize it was never about denying gender - it was about dehumanization. I've been fat my whole life. I never felt human, I was always less than human, a monster, a blob, a creature that I should be grateful other people tolerated. I knew that fatphobia was bad and fat had nothing to do with a value of a human being. But, as I wasn't human being that rule didn't apply to me. When you don't have gender to lose, they'll take your humanity.

    • @molotawv
      @molotawv Pƙed 2 lety +37

      you did it. you put it into words. holy shit thank you for this.

    • @EmmsReality
      @EmmsReality Pƙed 2 lety +17

      This is powerful. Thank you for sharing.

    • @SoularSlothesk
      @SoularSlothesk Pƙed 2 lety +9

      This is it, A plus.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Pƙed 2 lety +6

      Well said.

    • @loner844
      @loner844 Pƙed 2 lety +16

      it’s crazy. people are totally out here fearing people could never love them because they’re “fat” “disgusting” “a blob”, as though love is dependent on beauty. without beauty, there is no love. people really hold beauty above all else. beauty is not only love, but humanity... we’re really persecuting ourselves and others for not being beautiful enough, and therefore not worthy enough... how did the world get this shallow?

  • @ourcoversrock19
    @ourcoversrock19 Pƙed 2 lety +1032

    “there is a dark, addictive pleasure to being a little fascist towards yourself.” to describe an eating disorder-and by extension, this fucking control towards food that society ingrains in us-as ‘fascism towards the self’ is so fucking vivid and jarring. that line hit me like a fucking train. thank you for this candid video on internalized fatphobia, abi.

    • @veemie8148
      @veemie8148 Pƙed 2 lety +34

      As someone with self-hatred from trauma and internal ableism issues it's pretty true.

    • @SeeMeRolling
      @SeeMeRolling Pƙed 2 lety +8

      i felt it too

    • @traceyadixon
      @traceyadixon Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Not just fatphobia - against any negative internalised societal projections.

    • @SiennaMedina
      @SiennaMedina Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I put it on a post it and smacked it on my mirror. I have never heard such a concise and profound way of explaining the nuances of an ed.

    • @user-vw2jq3to5e
      @user-vw2jq3to5e Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Normalize asceticism, eating little untethers you from the transient earthly pleasures of taste. My enjoyment of food plummeted during the plague times, and I feel as if I am no longer a slave to my former gluttony. Leaves, nuts, fruits, and occasional meats, the perfect monastic diet. Felix qui potuit terrae solvere vincula

  • @kiwi3144
    @kiwi3144 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    Damn, I love every video this woman creates. They all make me feel like I am actually growing and learning in a way that most media absolutely does not. They're also really entertaining and engaging!!!

  • @TheCuteycat
    @TheCuteycat Pƙed 2 lety +13

    I come back to this video constantly especially since in 2020 I had a bit of trans awakening that made me reevaluate the horrors i'd been facing in my own sense of self. I always dressed overly feminine. I never wore pants and if i did people assumed i was having a bad day. I constantly was in dresses and lolita anime like fashion and hardest part growing up was constantly being accused of having a eating disorder. I have a naturally thin body that just won't put on weight and I eat so slow that my food is usually cold by the time I finish and school lunch breaks were so short I just didn't see the point in lunch most the time. It actually stresses me out because people have told me 'you must have a disorder' or my parents would accuse me of purposely choosing not to eat when i'd just forget. I'd be forced to sit down and eat a large meal and I'd be monitored because 'i could have a disorder'. I have been told constantly I have the ideal 'feminine body' and it always felt wrong and I never understood why. I had an obsession with gaining weight and mass because I was so tiny and meanwhile friends I had with actual severe cases of eating disorders would tell me I was being a little silly for wanting to gain weight. When I put all of this in a trans perspective I suddenly find myself realizing how much of myself was based in a fear of being othered more than I already felt I was. This horror of being an outsider and being the wrong kind of woman without even realizing it. The internalized fears of looking too jewish after certain traumas faced in a racist elementary school and needing to be loud or comedic in order to not be a threat or nail to be hammered down. An obsession with certain types of men but not being attracted to them and not wanting relationships... I don't know what to say more other than this video made me go:
    Oh. It all makes sense now. Oh. So that's normal. That I can eat my cake and not feel wrong. I can just eat.

  • @minidusa
    @minidusa Pƙed 2 lety +442

    I've had an eating disorder. Hearing Abigail say that part of what keeps you in an eating disorder is the pride that you're more "disciplined" than other women is so terribly true. I took strange pride in the feeling of starving. That I was stronger for it. I've gotten better but the thoughts still creep up on me

    • @susannahbsmith8685
      @susannahbsmith8685 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      This is the lie we tell ourselves. And it is a lie. I was a dancer who starved myself for so long that I genuinely cannot feel hunger - which is so dangerous. My gyno actually was the one who woke me up. She said, why are you trying to make your children orphans? I was like, what? She replied, don't you know that statistically so many, many more people die of *not* eating than overeating? How much *less* healthy it is not to eat? As someone who was still trying to tell herself she - I - was healthy, her question stunned me like a lightning bolt. My husband, who cooked like a trained chef and took such joy in it, took up the cause by plying me with such delicious and healthy meals. He taught my kids as they grew older to always ask me what I had for lunch that day so I would remember to eat. I didn't want to upset them, so I wrote myself reminder notes. So I learned the joy, finally, after struggling with not eating for nearly two decades. I still struggle. I cannot look at myself in a full length mirror, and I cannot own a bathroom scales. I have learned to appreciate certain parts of my body - my arms, my neck, for instance. Things I never actually hated. I have to be very careful with exercise and not go so far or so long that I get the high out of it - that is very dangerous for me. I will always remember that high, and the high of not eating. But it will kill me, and that is not going to happen. It goes so deep. But every day I'm still here it's a win. Find your joy in feeding yourself and allowing your self to enjoy eating with other people. Don't let anyone take that from you, not even your self. Best wishes

    • @orlakenny2987
      @orlakenny2987 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      I’ve had an eating disorder since I was 10 and a terrible relationship to my body - recently in my 40s I’ve noticed myself feeling disappointed for feeling full - being hungry felt like I was doing well - I hate it and trying to counteract that ridiculous voice in my head but it’s hard because it’s been around for 30 years

    • @margheritadellavalletheyel6775
      @margheritadellavalletheyel6775 Pƙed 2 lety

      true

    • @lilymanshel6146
      @lilymanshel6146 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      It's absolutely wild being a person with a binge eating disorder in rehab, and almost admiring all the women in your cohort with restrictive eating disorders... for having more self-control than you. And then having that thought reinforced by your parents (and the families of other bingers) when they come in for Family Group night.

    • @minidusa
      @minidusa Pƙed 2 lety

      @@lilymanshel6146 I'm sorry you're going through that rn. Understand that they are no better than you or your struggles. I wish you a good recovery.

  • @esthermcafee5293
    @esthermcafee5293 Pƙed 2 lety +400

    “I started at the bottom. I had just graduated Stanford” made me laugh way too much. So brave to tell the story of graduating from a top tier university that’s almost 120% more expensive than the average school in California. And it got funnier from there.

    • @phucanhell
      @phucanhell Pƙed 2 lety +11

      "I had like 180k in my bank account, and that was all" The sincerity of the delivery got me.

    • @onijester56
      @onijester56 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      ​@@phucanhell Honestly, it hit a little close because...so I'm living in a cheap apartment that costs $800/month. I'm also looking to buy a house since a mortgage on a full-on house is cheaper than rent...and to get a house for my girlfriend and I within 3 months, I need to acquire at least $6,000 more than I have in my bank.
      If I graduated college with even a fraction of Miss Slaughter's "only", I could live a life of luxury where I never have to worry about any of the basic necessities of life.
      And the genuine expression of Slaughter's disconnect with normal working-class people is funny. But I also have friends who have told me that if I really want a house I shouldn't be wasting my money on the ramen noodles with which I literally live off of and are the only thing I eat the 6 days a week that I work.
      So, it's something real people are really saying, something that real people are basing their weight in the political arena to act in favor of. And that...is not something I can find funny. It's "too real", you know.

    • @edgrimm5862
      @edgrimm5862 Pƙed 2 lety

      At least she started with a net worth around the amount of debt that most of the people I've met who went to a top tier university left school had from their education costs alone. That sounds like she at least has some touch with reality, even if it's in the same negative relation that her financial status was compared to the more common case.

  • @hazelhodgson2433
    @hazelhodgson2433 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I've put off watching this video for months, because I instinctively knew that I was not at a point yet where I was ready to grapple with my own history with self discipline and food, because I was not ready yet to examine myself in the way that this video and these ideas would force me to do. I am glad in a way that I waited, because as a new year turns over, I'm now ready for the internal discussion that this video has prompted, and I'm grateful that you spoke about these issues with such honesty.
    Now the real work begins.

  • @d.o.m.i.
    @d.o.m.i. Pƙed 2 lety +14

    ironically, or maybe not, this video has motivated me to work out, which i was going to skip today due to laziness lol i wish everybody could exercise in a way thats not straining without being judged. i've been affraid for so long to put myself out there and possibly be looked down by gym chads but truth is probably nobody cares about me and i'm acting like in a panopticon anyways. great video as always

    • @Narokkurai
      @Narokkurai Pƙed 2 lety +7

      I think we should be encouraging more people to get into sports or athletic hobbies. Turn the workout from a means to an end to part of the end itself: having fun by being physically active.

    • @d.o.m.i.
      @d.o.m.i. Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Narokkurai exactly :)

  • @tbodole
    @tbodole Pƙed 2 lety +175

    When I was 13, after church, I overheard a member chatting with the rest of the woman about her childs' weight, she expressed concern over her child, stating that "she was too chubby" and even admitted to wanting to restrict the breastfeeding she did because she didn't want her "baby girl to grow up fat". Her child was barely a year old, it really messed me up hearing something like that. I hope that everyone can reach the point where they can eat their slice of cake.

    • @ScorpionViper1001
      @ScorpionViper1001 Pƙed 2 lety +26

      Is there any kind of healthy baby that isn't chubby looking? I mean WTF.

    • @ApparentlyNott
      @ApparentlyNott Pƙed 2 lety +7

      wow that is messed up, and it must have been messed up to hear that at 13

    • @bookbook9495
      @bookbook9495 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      No healthy baby is thin. Geez
.

    • @tbodole
      @tbodole Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@ScorpionViper1001 Exactly, they're *supposed* to look like that!!

    • @tbodole
      @tbodole Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@ApparentlyNott It got me wondering whether or not I was the "correct" weight, I'm just glad I realised that it was not a healthy sentiment to have

  • @kieranki8534
    @kieranki8534 Pƙed 2 lety +479

    "there is a dark addictive pleasure in being a little fascist towards yourself." HIT ME HARDDDDDD. I've never heard that feeling be put into words so well before.

    • @treesaah
      @treesaah Pƙed 2 lety +4

      SAME.

    • @annieinwonderland
      @annieinwonderland Pƙed 2 lety +19

      TW (Eating disorder) I am in recovery from one and I am disabled as well and this as well as other content helped me to realise that disabled isn't a bad word and that holding my self to Neurotypcal standards is not going to help.

    • @rauldjvp3053
      @rauldjvp3053 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      Read Anti-Oedipus if you’d like to know what she means!

    • @kieranki8534
      @kieranki8534 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@rauldjvp3053 I do know what it means lol

    • @Call-me-Al
      @Call-me-Al Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I mean, it makes sense: our brains are wired for finding pleasure in conforming with our tribes, if you perceive your society to bully you then getting to be part of it by also bullying yourself feels like you are finally at least doing _one_ thing right. Or at least this is my experience with it.

  • @jamiemallin1373
    @jamiemallin1373 Pƙed 2 lety

    I would like to send out just an enormous thank you to you. I have watched your stuff for years, and I love the love and personality you put in all of your videos. Your coming out was a huge inspiration for me, and it encouraged me to reflect on myself and my own identity. You and your soul radiate beauty, and I hope you know how much good you do for the people of the world. Thank you ❀

  • @asmrinthedark7159
    @asmrinthedark7159 Pƙed rokem +16

    This. Is. Amazing! Thank you
. I’m a fat stranger on the internet and I appreciate the work you did here so much.❀

  • @gretablackwell495
    @gretablackwell495 Pƙed 2 lety +913

    My experience with “being a little fascist to yourself” doesn’t involve food, but rather self harm. I’m autistic, and so I often struggle with social interaction. In middle school, I started a habit of scratching my arms with a pencil or biting my hands every time I “failed” a social interaction, so that I would “learn not to do it next time”. I had a wake-up call in the form of scratching my arms at work with a staple and realizing the marks weren’t fading like they did with the pencil. I spent the rest of the day terrified of judgement and realized this helped no-one, myself included. Thankfully, I’m starting to overcome this issue. Seriously though that line hit me like a goddamn truck

    • @dblackdrake
      @dblackdrake Pƙed 2 lety +31

      Man, I'm autistic and decided that instead of feeling bad I would never take anything from anyone ever, and fought dudes a couple times a month forever.
      It's not really any better, but I like it

    • @Anonymous_Gambito
      @Anonymous_Gambito Pƙed 2 lety +31

      I'm autistic too. I used to hurt myself when I would get too stressed out (like, to the point of almost having a meltdown or blowing up at someone) because I knew that if I did lash out or scream I would be painted as a monster or a crazy person, so I preferred to deal with it like that because then I wouldn't be "hurting anyone" (That is, there'd be no repercussions). I would function, and no one would know. Now, I don't do it frequently anymore, at least not like that. It's been a long time since I've actually drawn blood. But... I don't know if that's really a positive development. I've been just kinda... letting all those bad things people say about me stay inside me, without any way to get them out. I know I don't even totally believe them, that they barely feel like coherent speech when they're inside of me, but they're still just... There, like some sort of poison.

    • @Encysted
      @Encysted Pƙed 2 lety +41

      I've been learning, slowly, that people are sincere when they say "love yourself more than anyone else".
      "That's narcissistic!" No, hating yourself is what's bad here, not self-love.

    • @mathildavere8966
      @mathildavere8966 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      @@Anonymous_Gambito Having someone in your life you can talk to about might help. But that's kind of an obvious suggestion you probably thought of that already.
      I've been fucked up by some of these things too so look after yourself.

    • @K1LLtheSWITCH
      @K1LLtheSWITCH Pƙed 2 lety +9

      Wow, this kind of confirms my suspicion that the deeply awkward guy at my work who bites his hands when his anxiety is spikes, is undiagnosed autistic.

  • @emaginationproductions
    @emaginationproductions Pƙed 2 lety +591

    33:26 "Knowing that you're wrong, but believing it anyway" - I've definitely felt this before. It's such an interesting part of human psychology.

    • @augustusbambridge-sutton6280
      @augustusbambridge-sutton6280 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      Half the things I think could come under this category

    • @Cby0530
      @Cby0530 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      Honestly that might as well be summarised as so called "evil".
      See the case of Pol Pot, one of the most notorious proponents of geonicides in history; what struck me about him is that he had everything society considered required for a righteous person: drive, humility, modesty. But he hated being wrong.
      In an interview in the 90s, he said simply, with regret, "I knew of those atrocities, but I could not believe that they were happening."

    • @rauldjvp3053
      @rauldjvp3053 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      It’s called ideology

    • @ateisate7270
      @ateisate7270 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      That sentence in that context hit so hard for me. I sometimes feel fat, but I know I'm not. I'm not underweight (60kg at 170cm) and I don't have an eating disorder. It's stupid, I know it's stupid, but still. Noone ever tells me I'm fat because I am not. I try very hard not to look at calorie labels because I know the rabbit hole it can lead to. And still, I sometimes feel fat.
      I should probably go to some therapy for that (and a bunch of other things) lmao.

    • @Nai-qk4vp
      @Nai-qk4vp Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@rauldjvp3053 Elaborate.

  • @danieltaverner4609
    @danieltaverner4609 Pƙed 2 lety +7

    I am an ancient Roman in the audience and I deeply appreciate the inclusion

  • @xFinalJudgementx
    @xFinalJudgementx Pƙed 2 lety +3

    isn't it insane how deeply this video resonated with me, so much she shared about her own struggles hit me like a truck, i was so moved by all of it and yet - and YET... one of the loudest thoughts in my head, echoing through it again and again, was how i wished i would be like abigail in the sense of struggling with letting myself enjoy food. wished that i would be a person who finds more pleasure in denying myself food than consuming it. isn't it insane and sad.
    fantastic video and i hope everyone who struggles like that, myself included, can heal from it, no matter how much time it may take. let them have cake.

  • @DeHeld8
    @DeHeld8 Pƙed 2 lety +454

    oh my lord... the ballad of Kelly Slaughter is the dead face of capitalism staring at you from its empty sockets.

    • @piotrmil
      @piotrmil Pƙed 2 lety +6

      *its

    • @emaginationproductions
      @emaginationproductions Pƙed 2 lety +29

      The worst part is I've actually met people who think like that. Like if I'm not working 24/7 all the time, I'm wasting my life and it's just like NOOOO!!!!!

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Pƙed 2 lety

      Sheer brilliance.

    • @vaylard9474
      @vaylard9474 Pƙed 2 lety +18

      I died at
      - **What** drives you?
      - Uhhh my driver's name is Jacqueline

    • @vaylard9474
      @vaylard9474 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      On second thought I may have misinterpreted that.

  • @blue_champignon5738
    @blue_champignon5738 Pƙed 2 lety +255

    It's funny being fat, gay, and Asian as well with all of its contradictions. In the gay community, there's a pretty explicit premium on being thin or muscular, but at the same time, there is a community of bears and chub-chasers where being bigger is sexualized. Asian people tend to have a stereotype of being small and thin, so being fat and Asian it's almost like being a cryptid. I forget the name but I remember a study where fat asian people were perceived as "more American" if you wanted to bring up the wild intersections of perpetual foreigner stereotypes and body politics.

    • @imageez
      @imageez Pƙed 2 lety +8

      It's less of a contradiction and more of a pedantic categorization, because don't forget, all the popular gay bears and chubs are mostly tops. If you are a fat bottom, your chances on sex are harder, because bottoms still somewhat fall trap to the same idealistic image that women have to face.

    • @jazzyb9488
      @jazzyb9488 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@imageez Yeah there are definite beauty standards that are attached unequally according to a person’s role. Fat bottoms are definitely erm bottom in the gay pecking order with toned tops ruling the roost. Of course those toned tops are probably full of anxiety and self hate as they hit the gym for 3 hours a day 5 days a week
 *sigh*

  • @shadetheprince
    @shadetheprince Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Truly a masterpiece.
    I can say from experience: you're helping really impact how people perceive themselves and institutions.
    Let's all be happier together.