Ecoute chez Audio Prestige & Vintage. Enregistrement stéréo des TAD Reference One alimentées par un amplificateur Viola Bravo II. Préamplificateur/convertisseur : MSB Dac IV Diamond.
Now these speakers and associated equipment have it all together. I am tired of listening to speakers (and source material) at these shows, that pass themselves off as super fidelity, audiophile speakers, while they drive ice picks into one's ears. One can have detail, shimmering cymbals . . . and can still have a natural timbre without bleeding ears. Absolutely outstanding.
It was recorded with Neumann KM 184 microphones and Sound Devices 702 recorder. The microphones were located closed to the loudspeakers to minimize the effect of phase shift and improve the left/right separation.
Now, that's what I call "reference"! This is a true dream system for me. I would have the money, but I can't really spend it freely on toys like this, even though I wish I could.
disityp Can you really tell much difference between speakers like these and those that cost $2000? Or even $1000? All you need to do is find something excellent for the upper end, and make your own subwoofer. Bass is easy to tackle. If you're into DIY, there is lots of info available to help you build your own speakers. I can't think of anything that could convince me to spend this much on speakers. I'm perfectly happy with consumer-level B & W speakers.
I believe that would be wrong question. Yes I probably could tell difference between such speakers, but that's not the point. Such speakers would be from the same price bracket, so the difference would be in the character of the sound, not quality/fidelity of it. I myself have several sets of speakers like this and they all play differently. BTW, have you ever heard the TADs? Don't, because if you do, you're gonna want them.
disityp You make me curious. This could be a dangerous path for me to take (it could suck my money away). Sometimes I wonder if some of those differences can be reproduced using processing, such as using a 1/3 or 1/6th octave equalizer. It would be neat to have a box where you can pick what speaker you want your system to mimic. My current belief is that most exotic systems can be reproduced using less expensive DIY methods. TI can't see why systems have to cost this much. What is the money going into? R & D? Maybe it's because these systems aren't mass-produced. I'd also be very curious about how the general public would react to listening to these speakers. I'd have them choose their favorite speaker and see what they end up favoring. I feel that most of these expensive systems are more marketing than performance.
Why use professionnal recording devices and don't place microphones on auditor's position? This is not at all the sound we heard if we have been in the room. Nobody have a head 4 meters large with ears pointed front of speakers... And what about the treatments used during the recording? Even more critical, some of these fu... Hifi Videos have just cd audio layer copy-paste on the Video... Easy to do with any basic video software. You can move around the speakers to show how the sound change on different position.
The reason is that I do not have omnidirectional microphones and artificial-head to make binaural recordings. You can listen the original recording and compare it to this one to understand that this is not a copy-paste...
High end two-way speakers made by french craftsman Jean-Jacques Bacquet (Klinger Favre Audio) there : czcams.com/video/ce1YO2rHawo/video.html (Headphones are required for accurate listening)
The same title played by horn speakers in a totally different auditorium with a Live End Dead End acoustic treatment: czcams.com/video/Th0YpYzF_No/video.html
You can order parts from TAD as they make studio woofers. Make them yourself and they will be a fraction of the price, but... yeah, Japanese labour is expensive, just like European labour. So, it gets pricey. Since there is so few sold, all the licencing, shipping, real state, and what not adds to the cost, plus distribution with double handling of speakers that regularly weight more than your wife ... So... it's 80'000 speakers, but about 6K in parts. The rest is logistics and overhead expenses. Worth? Well... every time I play music my heart melts. They last a life time... better than buying a car, for sure.
De donde sacas eso? Mas natural no suena algo. El jazz rara vez esta grabado naturalmente, esta hecho en la mesa de mezcla. Si pones clasica, la diferencia entre el concert hall y TAD es virtualmente invisible.
Who knows what might've been the problem. Room maybe. It's a speaker that doesn't sound impressive at all to be honest. It sounds super natural, most people find this terribly boring.... it is like... that's it?
Ouch. My ears hurt. I'll keep my Klipsch Bell's for jazz. Very few speakers can touch a tube upstream gear and horn speakers. Not ear bleeding loud but toned down just so and they will run with the best of them. Todays modern rock, pop etc not so good. The music studios have bricked everything and the simblince is just a killer on horns. I'll give these speakers a fair shake and listen to them but I won't hold my breath.
About Horn speakers, the same title played by horn speakers in a totally different auditorium with a Live End Dead End acoustic treatment: czcams.com/video/Th0YpYzF_No/video.html
I wish all videos on CZcams that depict recorded speakers would take note of this video and it’s methodology. Perfect
That Latin sound track was one of the Best I’ve ever heard ! Listening through my Marantz and K-Horns ! Wonderful !
One of the best speakers in the world. I can say this, because I have heard this system live! And this System is really well made. Amazing!
Now these speakers and associated equipment have it all together. I am tired of listening to speakers (and source material) at these shows, that pass themselves off as super fidelity, audiophile speakers, while they drive ice picks into one's ears. One can have detail, shimmering cymbals . . . and can still have a natural timbre without bleeding ears. Absolutely outstanding.
Stunning. I've heard lots and lots of high end speakers but these might be the best loudspeakers ever! A bold statement but possible!
Best version of the Seinfeld theme song I've ever heard...
Always notice these in every CZcams demo. They must sound that good
Sounds as live as I've heard on a desktop computer. Impressive.
It was recorded with Neumann KM 184 microphones and Sound Devices 702 recorder. The microphones were located closed to the loudspeakers to minimize the effect of phase shift and improve the left/right separation.
If only all system demos on CZcams were recorded with such care.
I kid you not, My computer speakers were throwing a soundstage, WTF! Great job!
Mine too ! 2012 MacPro.
This does sound amazing good for something that was recorded with mics like that. To me, it sounds like I'm listening to the file directly.
The sound is as good as my M-Audio AV40 desktop computer speakers for $145. Actually this is one of the best sound I've heard on CZcams.
The best video of its kind in the whole CZcams!
Amazing recording quality !
Holy shit! That is amazing...it sounds great even with youtube's compression mucking things up. I can only imagine how good they sound live...
You guys must have very strong ears... I can't hear even 1 minute. Ice-pick piercing around 3000hz... My inner ears are numb in few seconds.
Yeah terrible
Beautiful sound through my Elacs. Wow!!!!!
HI End...Just Perfecto!
Now, that's what I call "reference"! This is a true dream system for me. I would have the money, but I can't really spend it freely on toys like this, even though I wish I could.
disityp Can you really tell much difference between speakers like these and those that cost $2000? Or even $1000? All you need to do is find something excellent for the upper end, and make your own subwoofer. Bass is easy to tackle. If you're into DIY, there is lots of info available to help you build your own speakers. I can't think of anything that could convince me to spend this much on speakers. I'm perfectly happy with consumer-level B & W speakers.
I believe that would be wrong question. Yes I probably could tell difference between such speakers, but that's not the point. Such speakers would be from the same price bracket, so the difference would be in the character of the sound, not quality/fidelity of it. I myself have several sets of speakers like this and they all play differently. BTW, have you ever heard the TADs? Don't, because if you do, you're gonna want them.
disityp
You make me curious. This could be a dangerous path for me to take (it could suck my money away). Sometimes I wonder if some of those differences can be reproduced using processing, such as using a 1/3 or 1/6th octave equalizer. It would be neat to have a box where you can pick what speaker you want your system to mimic. My current belief is that most exotic systems can be reproduced using less expensive DIY methods. TI can't see why systems have to cost this much. What is the money going into? R & D? Maybe it's because these systems aren't mass-produced. I'd also be very curious about how the general public would react to listening to these speakers. I'd have them choose their favorite speaker and see what they end up favoring. I feel that most of these expensive systems are more marketing than performance.
disityp yes we all may have the money but if... I would set them up under a bridge 😂
Absolutely amazing
Wow. These even sound good on my 2" Logitech desktop speakers.
beautiful -perfectly
Sounds like my S1ex and S2ex. Pioneer 😊 very similar
Is TAD Reference Speaker made by Pioneer?
Don't forget the room acoustics and the combination with the amp. Then TAD sounds fantastic. But you have to spend a few times 100,000 dollar.
Nice demo nice speaker nice music
TAD is one the best speaker in earth, dinamic is oustanding¡¡
I'm not for purchased speakers , but these TAD Reference One sound very good.
Very accurate sound
What a system
fantastic !!!
impresionante even trought a pair of cans
I’d like to know what recording that is playing? If anyone can post it, thanks.
Artist: Serge Forté, track: Funky Oscar, album: Thanks for All
amazing......I just called the waitress over to order another Louis xlll.
Why use professionnal recording devices and don't place microphones on auditor's position? This is not at all the sound we heard if we have been in the room. Nobody have a head 4 meters large with ears pointed front of speakers... And what about the treatments used during the recording? Even more critical, some of these fu... Hifi Videos have just cd audio layer copy-paste on the Video... Easy to do with any basic video software. You can move around the speakers to show how the sound change on different position.
The reason is that I do not have omnidirectional microphones and artificial-head to make binaural recordings. You can listen the original recording and compare it to this one to understand that this is not a copy-paste...
High end two-way speakers made by french craftsman Jean-Jacques Bacquet (Klinger Favre Audio) there : czcams.com/video/ce1YO2rHawo/video.html (Headphones are required for accurate listening)
Please tell me the title and artist name of this song
www.allmusic.com/album/thanks-for-all-mw0001149717
viola bravo $54000us, TAD ref 1 $88000, msb ~$20-30000. total wout cables ~$150000
In the video credit : "Funky Oscar"
May I ask how much all of this stuff has cost?
Sebelfisch Oh yes, certainly
Sebelfisch I think speakers are in 60k+ range
The same title played by horn speakers in a totally different auditorium with a Live End Dead End acoustic treatment: czcams.com/video/Th0YpYzF_No/video.html
your Klinger videos sound much better...
Track ID?
Cant hear any difference between original and this reproduction on my good headphones! Must be good then.
Their good speakers. But are they $30,000 good?
Try $80,000 for these TAD references :O)
You can order parts from TAD as they make studio woofers. Make them yourself and they will be a fraction of the price, but... yeah, Japanese labour is expensive, just like European labour. So, it gets pricey. Since there is so few sold, all the licencing, shipping, real state, and what not adds to the cost, plus distribution with double handling of speakers that regularly weight more than your wife ... So... it's 80'000 speakers, but about 6K in parts. The rest is logistics and overhead expenses.
Worth? Well... every time I play music my heart melts. They last a life time... better than buying a car, for sure.
Needs subwoofers… missing low end.
And yet they have no midrange
They are better than B&W
Buena filedidad pero muy poco natural
De donde sacas eso? Mas natural no suena algo. El jazz rara vez esta grabado naturalmente, esta hecho en la mesa de mezcla. Si pones clasica, la diferencia entre el concert hall y TAD es virtualmente invisible.
Well this one is impressive, did not like the TAD ME-1 at all.
Who knows what might've been the problem. Room maybe. It's a speaker that doesn't sound impressive at all to be honest. It sounds super natural, most people find this terribly boring.... it is like... that's it?
Ouch. My ears hurt. I'll keep my Klipsch Bell's for jazz. Very few speakers can touch a tube upstream gear and horn speakers. Not ear bleeding loud but toned down just so and they will run with the best of them.
Todays modern rock, pop etc not so good. The music studios have bricked everything and the simblince is just a killer on horns.
I'll give these speakers a fair shake and listen to them but I won't hold my breath.
About Horn speakers, the same title played by horn speakers in a totally different auditorium with a Live End Dead End acoustic treatment: czcams.com/video/Th0YpYzF_No/video.html