If you want to reduce temps even further. you can lower Core ratio and that eventually lets you under volt it even further, I wanted to not lose the default multi core Ratio 5.5GHz and that's the least possible for my silicon, curious to know your results and if you need any help don't hesitate to write here. You can download My Updated XTU profile with ICCMAX to 307A here: drive.google.com/file/d/1bBDGn9X9SG4CjAP0OgKd0pxkELZ7y-pk/view?usp=drive_link Intel New Recommended Guideline Video: czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html Tips that may help changing microcode 104 : www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/10b9p6w/undervolting_on_b760/ If you enjoy my content Subscribe & Become a member to activate extra PERKS Join the TECHOSAUR Community on Discord here : discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b. you can seek technical assistance, exchange ideas and experiences, relax, share memes, make video request and most importanly feel at home See you in 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣4️⃣
Hey is it safe to use ur results fpr my 13700k either ? not like importing ur profile but following ur steps in video to undervolt my 13700k . atm i just tested -100mV on all cores with -70mV on the fastest ones but didnt chaned anything else yet.
@@disturebd I think you can increase the fast cores ratio for a better single core performance Are u getting good temps with ur current settings ? They're safe to try
@@TECHOSAUR yeah i also have a profile for that cause the one i told u is just for powersaving like if i play LoL where now performance is needet thats the best and my temps after 10 min cinebench r23 are on 85°C max. On the other one i have just -70 mV on all cores but having + 100mhZ all core and did a single / dual core boost to 5,7 Ghz. Where Temps reach 90°C in Cinebench 92°C in Summer. ok so i Try some of Ur settings aswell. I want to get to Know more about undervolting overall. Little sidequestion my freind has a ASUS Rog z790-H Gaming Wifi with a 14700k There XTU dont work with the saving settings tro next resatrt feature and in bios is no " corevoltage offset setting " more like voltage offset bound to a specific clock, do i have to use i differnt offset for every clock or could i just use like -100mV on every step ?. atm -105mV is max i could use on his XTU (tested with AIDA,Cinebench, yChruncher and OCCT for 1h each) and is there a difference between the offset in bios to the ofset if i use xTU ? Thanks for ur replys :)
this video aged VERY well. came back here after intel's microcode fix (125) and i'm able to undervolt even more gonna revisit this video again after intel releases the final fix (mid august) best video you're the king
I'm very lucky to have seen this video. Today is 08.08.2024. Intel's issues with processors and BIOS updates probably started about 2-3 weeks ago. I have a 14700K processor Asus Rog Strix Z790-E Gaming Wifi II motherboard I use a 360MM liquid cooler Currently, I have the latest BIOS update downloaded from Asus's website and I am using Intel's default settings. Despite this, whenever I ran any CPU stress test, almost all performance cores were thermal throttling and hitting 100 degrees. After making the settings mentioned here, I saw a maximum of 75 degrees in the XTU stress test. This is amazing. I did three tests in XTU: normal CPU, AVX, and AVX2. The normal CPU test failed, but the other two successfully completed the 5-minute test. I didn't get any blue screens, and the system seems to be working perfectly right now.
That's good to know. I'm happy to know, but I want to inform you that Intel has released a new BIOS version including a microcode 129 update. It should help optimize it better. In addition to the undervolting you did, it should improve stability
@@TECHOSAUR I have 14700kf processor. Should I use the same settings? I have read that new microcode 129 update is not good as the temperature rise and uses more volt. Thanks in advance.
@@FearlessFrog Thanks. I tried this settings as per this video and I got blue screen. Maybe because my processor is 14700kf. I will try updating to 129 and hopefully that will fix my issue.
Could you repeat this tutorial but for the 13600k? I know you’ve already made a tutorial for UV in bios, but as most bioses are different a XTU tutorial would be preferred. But thanks for your quality videos and hard work!
I would like one for the 14600k. I would guess the 13600K would be the same, and thus a 13600k tutorial would work for the 14600k? Also, would this 14700k tutorial work for the 14600k and the 13600k? Ty, good video.
@GoodBoyYuuki You can do it in XTU like I did here, but what's your motherboard? You also need to modify some settings in the BIOS, like the load line calibration. Check that part in the video if u like to know how i did it
I didnt expect you to reply to my comment! You're actually willing to help too... I will get the info when I get home and tell you. In the mean time, do you have a patreon or something? I can't believe you replied, and I see you're replying to basically everyone else too actually trying to help people... I'm very impressed and I want to say thank you. I've been going on to Reddit and other forums online writing in-depth pages about what I've been experiencing with details and hardly get any help. A lot of the time people will literally tell me to do something that I specifically said I already tried.
Yes, please let me know ASAP. I would be happy to help anyone. I made those guides because I understand the frustration one can feel when they pay for something and are excited to receive something high-end, only to be let down by unexpected behavior. This is normal for all modern Intel CPUs. Perhaps you have read the fuss about their CPUs dying due to improper pre-applied settings. Yes, I have a membership on CZcams: czcams.com/channels/-jauq-kZ20FrlnCMkx2gSQ.htmljoin Patreon: www.patreon.com/TECHOSAUR You can also join the channel's Discord server if you want to share screenshots, etc. discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b P.S. I read every single comment 👀
this did not age well when it comes to microcode update x129 on gigabyte. Setting the intel settings to disabled and gigabyte perf profile on will crash your computer in gaming. This video however, was the video that initially helped me build 4 computers with the 14700k. The intel settings do disable undervolting unfortunetly BUT with those temp limits i was able to set aggressive temp limits with the turbo and keep temps under 90c. Ive also noticed turning on iccmax to unlimited and keeping turbo timing settings default will stabilize and actually boost your system performance. Thank you!
Ive reseated my 420mm Arctic Freezer III AIO twice and my 14700k is still able to reaches 87C at stock levels LOL. No idea how this is possible considering you have a much smaller cooler. Hopefully your config helps. EDIT: Your config made a huge difference in the XTU benchmark wattage/temperatures, bringing me down to around 213w at 75C. Using OCCT however is a different story, still drawing the full 255w whilst sitting at a max temp of 94C on the SSE test. (with a 420mm cooler mind you haha) Cinebench sits around 95c/255w as well.
Try to reduce the AVX ratio to make it consume less power. OCCT AVX workloads are quite stressful, and lowering the ratio is crucial to prevent overheating.
Brother first of all thnx for such a detailed video over XTU... Will be a lot of help for newbies and intermediate guys as well but still what I personally found that leaving Iccmax to unlimited was feeding a lot of unhealthy Amps which was making the system in turn unstable so I manually set it to 380amps minding intel guidelines for Intel's vcc core performance config..... Would be helpful if you shed some light into the same thnx...👍
@@TECHOSAUR i really want it but the next gen will come out in 5 months, they promise 20% better performannce but im not sure if they will deliver and if its even worth to wait that long
Yes thanks for this. What a difference to temps , volts and speed. Have you updated your Intel extreme profile after the recent bios update fixes nby intel and MOBO makers?
Yes, I always update my BIOS whenever there's a new version. I made a video about the one I installed on my ASRock motherboard. czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.htmlsi=5w21uTLKyc9m2vpe I've had no issues since the update, but I did have to adjust my XTU profile for the ICCMAX. I hope I can try different motherboard brands because, on ASRock, things seem to be okay, but others from different motherboards aren't finding it easy with those predefined profiles. Maybe ASUS fixed it, but I heard initially their options caused instability
@@TECHOSAUR I have the Asus Strix Z790 D4 (ddr4 edition) and using your "old" profile no no issues thus far in gaming scenarios which is all that matters for me.
There is a 3 fps difference in some games, there is no difference in some games. There is a difference in the use of heat and power, but I think it is unnecessary, there is no need to take risks for this.
Hi. Excellent tutorial, I have learned a lot. Thank you. I have a question, if you can help me. I have a 14700K air cooled in an ITX case. The MB is Asrock Z790 PG ITX. I am trying to get as much performance out of it as possible. For this I have modified in BIOS (0x129) the following items: Power Short and Long set to 200W, All cores at 55, AVXoffset at 2, and LLC at 3. With those parameters I have good performance but the temp is close to 100ºC. With offset of -0.100 the temp improves (90-92ºC). And now I have seen this tutorial and I have used your parameters in Intel XTU for undervolt with an offset of -0.165 and it is now quite good and stable. The problem is that in BIOS the max offset is -0.100. In another tutorial of yours I have seen that it is possible to increase the offset in BIOS with a multi-point curve in FIRV configuration. I have copied your points in XTU, and although they work, the performance is very low, I only reach a speed of 4.2 Mhz. What am I doing wrong, how can I know which values to use in the curve, so that the performance doesn't drop?
In the end I was able to set some stable values in the BIOS, and I uninstalled XTU because it was creating interference with the BIOS and now everything is OK.
Glad to know. Did you set it in BIOS using FIVR points or global offset voltage? Yes, also my motherboard has only -0.100 max. That's why I use FIVR points, which can go lower.
Thank you for this detailed and informative video. Could you please make a video of 14900k with ASUS MB? Very less video for 14900k undervolting videos for the same. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the guide, I followed your steps with my 14700k and MSI PRO Z790-P Motherboard. I have a H115I CPU cooler but for some reason when running all of these benchmarks I am hitting 90 degrees + very quickly, eg. 1 or 2 minutes in to the testing. Do you have any idea why? I tried to re-apply thermal paste (ARCTIC MX-6) but it didn't really help. Ambient temperature in my room is about 20-25 degrees.
Do you have enough case ventilation? And do you have your case fans oriented in the right position to ensure optimal airflow? If you believe so, I think your only choice is to lower the voltage even further, and if it doesn't work with the set clocks, just reduce the ratio until you balance thermals and performance.
@@TECHOSAUR Yes I believe so, I have the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv, it's a bit older but has great flow. I have the radiator front mounted pulling air in, and then top and back fans extracting air.
@@TECHOSAUR So turns out I had a very small region of faulty memory in my brand new RAM... only showed in the last few seconds of MEMTEST, and never crashed during benchmarks etc. These settings are running pretty stable now, Although I am hitting 90 degrees in cinebench, May need to change the volt offset, do I increase that or lower it (go further negative).
Why you dont touch AC/DC_LL? I think those technically also undervolt, perhaps even better than just a standard Vcore offset. You just need to make sure you pick the right LLC
You are correct. Here is a link to a more recent video in which I combine the CPU core voltage and changes in power profiles with the AC/DC loadline: czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.htmlsi=SprQNwQ7Tdb08G42 But the thing is, if you want to create a more standard guide that will cover a wider audience and different motherboards, it's better to use a standard voltage approach directly on the CPU than motherboard load lines because different vendors might use different baseline values than my ASRock one. For that, I need to try different brands and make a guide for each of them. I thought it would be better to make changes on the CPU since it's what everyone will use rather than doing most of the work on the motherboard.
My 14700kf max temp only went down from 99 to 98 would you recommend to continue dropping the offset/undervolting amount? I’m getting really discouraged from even using intel and may just switch out my CPU and Mobo.
Hi thx for sharing this very helpfull video. Could you pls let me know if this profile will work well with i7 14700k+msi mag z790 tomahawk with a Noctua NH d15 aircooler?
You will still have to change the Load Line Calibration in your MSI mobo, choose the middle level because on your model there should be more than 5 levels like it is for my ASRock I think 8, so choose 5 or 4 or one of them is highlighted as best for OC, i mean to keep our undervolting stable under load if you notice higher temp, try to reduce the PL 1, and PL2 slightly, because I think the max TDP for your cooler is 220w, so I would suggest you limit PL1 to around 210 and PL2 to 220W
Hi. I just built a new PC with the Gigabyte Aorus z790 Elite AX mb and the I7 14,700k proc. In the bios I disabled undervolt protection, Intel virt tech, and VT-d. There is apparently another setting that needs tweaked because in XTU, undervolt protection is still enabled. Ideas? Thanks! A couple hours later... I did figure out how to disable undervolt protection, and I applied all the settings you recommend, but I'm still missing something. The bios settings on this mb are different for "load line configuration" (9:04), and I was not able to figure it out. The computer boots fine, but any sort of stress test fails within a few seconds. Thanks!
Great Video! Just a question, as you had set LLC, you would also set DC/AC_LL. If both are well define I supuse they don’t interfere with the OC made by XTU, right?
I keep IA AC/DC on auto Because it will interfere with the way it's calculating power limits, it instantly caused instability on mine if make any change on them
thank you for the video. My out of the box temps with intel settings were just all over the place, cpu fans blasting randomly just doing nothing and games being all over the place, these settings settled them down nicely while maintaining about the same performance.
in Gigabyte z790 Aours i have 9 options 😂 For load-line cailbraton Auto Normal Standard Low Medium High Turbo Extreme UltraExtreme what should i go !!??
Hello! I really like this video and the new ones. I do have i7-14700k on a MSI Tomahawk wifi 7 pro z790 board and I did my undervolt configuration, working well, very low temps, lil overclock (57-57-56-56-56-56-56-56/44, P1 and P2 at 200w, vcore -0,075), then I loose something in performance. With yours it seems there is no loss, so I want to try it. I download the xtu file and imported it in my xtu configuration app then, like I was wondering, xtu alert me related with the vcore undervolt radio you applied, if memory serve me well, -0,16xx or so. It say it is invalid. In the configuration I made and I said before, like I said, I undervolg then the most stable value is -0,075, pretty much half of your setting. I’m surprised you can apply it to your board considering xtu accept all your other parameters, bur it calls it invalid and I think for a reason! Now I’m not sure to apply your other settings becouse I don’t know if they could work with -0,075 offset I could apply (anything over is not stable, 0,10 crash the system). Let me know also if you do share other xtu filesI could try. Thank you for your great job.
I'm on Windows 11 You can disable intel virtualization in bios. That's how I do it But if u prefer win 10, it's possible to do those tweaks in the same manner
Hi, I've been using your profile but I run into BSOD issues. I have a I7-14700K, DeepCool AK620, and an MSI PRO-P WIFI mobo. I have also changed the LL to Mode 4 (Max mode is 8). What should I do?
Try with level 5 which should have less vdroop; otherwise, increase the voltage a bit until it's stable, or you could reduce the ratio and undervolt it, depending on what you prefer.
did you run the app in administrator privilege, sometimes lack of admin access may limit the app, also do you see a yellow bolt icon or you disabled under volt protection in BIOS? what CPU and motherboard do you run ? as some OEM PCs may have them disabled consider installing previous version of XTU, sometimes it may work
After following these settings with the exception of the core voltage offset which is -0,065 (if i go higher i crash) i dont really get much temp differences do you have any idea why that could be. i7 14700KF, MSI Z790 Carbon, Liquid Freezer III 360
Lowering it by -0.065 won't result in a noticeable temperature drop. Did you perhaps try setting the load line calibration to a middle level like i did? I believe for your MSI board, it should be 8 levels. Someone else tried setting it to level 5. You can also try 4, it should be able to undervolt by more than -0.100mv to start see a decent temp drop
Hello I copied your settings but I keep blue screening. I have MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI and i7-14700K. I put the motherboard to factory settings except enable the XMP 2.0 Also on everything default, my pc also blue scree on cinebench24 multi core test
I just made a recent video here czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile
I have an i5-13600K and an ASRock B760M PG Lightning motherboard. After updating the BIOS to the 104 microcode, the undervolt protection warning disappeared, but I'm still unable to change settings as they are greyed out. What Should i do
Thanks for the instructions! Unfortunately, I am experiencing a problem with my PC not running with the current settings. Sometimes my computer restarts with the error "Boot failure detected" "The system has experienced a boot failure possibly due to incorrect configuration. previous settings in bios may not be compatible. with current hardware state." I don't use the XPM profile. What could be wrong? I am using Gigabyte Z790 Gaming X AX + i7-14700K
did you change the Load Line Calibration level ? i also made a newer guide here: czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html hope it may help, i know its different between ASRock and AORUS but at least you can find those settings and ensure they're set in that way, as this one I made guide for is using Intel Guidelines to ensure CPU longevity and stability, also with lower temps
things I activated High settings on load line calibration disabled intel default settings set gigabyte optimum with the max performance profile enabled all performance cores disabled integrated graphics set all fans to run normally qflash to latest bios xmp 2.0 with a 6000mhz oc enabled fast boot set pcie gen 5 set nvme to gen 4 disabled vt-d and undervolt protection disabled virtualization GNA enable specs: Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top Corsair RM650 PSU Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX 14700k Thermalright peerless assassin cooler Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64 gb ram Crucial p3 EVGA 2080 XC Ultra Yes, I know my psu is extremely underpowered for my system. Yes i know the 2080 is old. Yes i know the P3 isnt gen4 (I believe) BUT I built 2 computers with these specs below Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top Corsair Rm1000x Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX 14700k Thermalright peerless assassin Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64gb ram Crucial T500 Gigabyte Eagle 4070 TI Super There are a ton of settings I did. Including updating bios and running through all the drivers on the GIGABYTE site. All the drivers through the Nvidia site, and all the windows 11 pro updates and optional updates. His video was a good start for me. but I was still hitting temps at 100c I started TDP -1 at 80c for all cores. TDP -2 at 90c I also used his settings with the intel ai and found a great oc that works. sometimes the XTU app will crash for no reason. its a stupid program that works. you just gotta put it in your startup folder and make sure it is on as soon as you wake your computer from sleep yes. put your computer to sleep. if you want more help. let me know.
I have a dumb question i moved from 10700k to 14700k but then im not getting the fps that im suppose to get infact im getting lower fps then my 10700k. My ssd i didnt do a fresh format. Should i have done that?
What cooling setup do you have? Did you check if your new CPU is thermal throttling? You probably need to undervolt it to see the real benefit over your 10700k. These CPUs run hot by factory settings and undervolting is important even if you are using a custom water loop.
Thanks for your help about get the best performance for 14700k. But I tried import the profile and XTU indicated that Incompatible Values is Core Voltage Offset -165,0 mV. I have MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk MAX WIFI and TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan DDR5 6000 MHz CL 38-38-38-78
Check that under volt protection isn't enabled on ur system otherwise you can't under volt it, also Intel virtualization and VT-D should be off in my bios settings Check part 3:30 If u have that yellow thunderbolt symbol you can't import my voltage offset
@@TECHOSAUR Undervolt Protection, Intel Virtualization and VT-d are OFF on MSI BIOS of my motherboard. In fact, XTU app not working if not disabled these "technologies". It's not appears the yellow thunderbolt symbol and my pc shutdown a little time after applied the profile :( I have a question about the energy, is important the Active Power Plan in Windows? I have "Balanced" profile. The XTU version app is 7.14.0.15 Thanks and Regards from Spain.
i have a question Hope u can answer it why in those 2 test i get half result of every i7 14700k/kf users in intel XTU Benchmark ( 7135 marks ) and in Cinebench R23 ( 22702 p,ts ) i orderd the CPU from am, azon ( i7 14700KF ) and when i got it the BOX says it's i7 14700K that makes me wonder how KF comes in K box so i'm afraid that it's fake My Motherboard is Z790 and GPU is RTX 4080 and CPU is 14700KF with Water cooler
what motherboard do you have? you also need to check that you have for load line calibration at least the middle-level set, because by default the auto option is set as the lowest one with the biggest vdrop and that causes instability with further under volting, you need to raise the load line calibration level to maintain voltage better, for example, my ASRock board has 5 levels for load line calibration setting, my sweet spot is 3, always choose the middle-way, you can find this setting in motherboard bios, for example i did it on mine min 09:04
i have a question Hope u can answer it why in those 2 test i get half result of every i7 14700k/kf users in intel XTU Beanchmark ( 7135 marks ) and in Cinebeanch R23 ( 22702 pts ) i orderd the CPU from amazon ( i7 14700KF ) and when i got it the BOX says it's i7 14700K 😅 that makes me wonder how KF comes in K box so i'm afraid that it's fake 😰 My PC bulid is Motherboard Z790 GPU RTX 4080 CPU 14700KF with Water cooler
Install CPU-Z. You can check its full specifications. Also, does the IHS say the name 14700K or KF? You also need to evaluate if it's thermal throttling, consequently getting such a low score. Did you leave the BIOS settings to default? Because I'm not sure if you have Intel Boosting on or off. If it's at the base clock, it's normal to get a low score.
@@TECHOSAUR I ordered kf and i got it in k box And I didn’t change any BIOS Settings I only enabled XMP for ram + when i did all ur steps In Cinebench r23 benchmark CPU temp goes to 96c 99c 100c Is it the reason im getting low score And in XTU intel benchmark Head dont go over 90 and i only get 7000 Every i7 14th users get 11 12 13k
@@A9z1o1z what clocks are you getting on Cinebench ? check in XTU in the bottom dashboard, or you can see in HWINFO well the K is better than the KF, the difference is that the K has an Intel iGPU inside, so if your discrete GPU stops working you can use your CPU iGPU for debugging and still be able to use your PC, the KF variant lacks the iGPU, but for CPU cores it's exactly the same layout btw I tried to reply to you on Discord but it says you are not on any server in common so my message didn't get delivered 😂
@@TECHOSAUR Yeah sry after i message you i leaved the server 😂 But i heard there is no differnce between them i7 14700k/kf only some one with GPU and some one without GPU and i search for PPL benchmarks on both The all get in Cinebench R23 ( 32000 pts )+ and in intel XTU benchmark ( 11k or 12k or 13k ) but me i got in Cinebench R23 ( 22000 ) and in intel XTU ( 7300 ) so i think i got scamed maybe the amazon seller sold me i7 10th but he change he's name to 14th 😂
But we didn't compromise on frequency as well. I pushed all clocks while boosting the two fast cores to a higher frequency, all while undervolting. However, when you have a lower temperature, you will get consistently good performance, and that will reflect in the final score. While initially, with stock settings, it may boost higher, as soon as it thermally throttles, it will downclock itself hard. Still, voltages will be high to begin with, and it will never recover. With lower voltage, you will give it headroom to boost and stay consistently, offering optimum performance.
@@TECHOSAUR i see, its now about 20 years that i didnt had a desktop, i used laptops but i felt the need for a powerful PC so im building one. Till now i got the Thermaltake Divider 370 case, Deepcool PX1000G ATX 3.0 PSU, Asus Z790 Prime A WIFI motherboard, i9 13900k processor and a Thermalright contact frame, 2x16 G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000mt/s CL32 memory, 980 Pro SSD. Today i will receive the Deepcool LT720 AIO cooler and i will be able to start the PC and test it for stability and try to tweak it. I will buy the GPU sometime later cause no money left for now, i gathered all the components in a few months and i was hunting for good deals. I will try to understand and learn more about undervolting, and can you recommend some torture test softwares for RAM memory and CPU. From what i read for RAM would be good MemTest86, for CPU Prime95 and OCCT? Thanks a lot!
XTU has a Windows service so it can use the set profile on startup unless the PC crashes. You would avoid having to switch it back again to avoid going through a loop, but you need to enable that option in the XTU settings to load with Windows.
Hello, I am quite new to this. I am running Strix z790-h gaming wifi with i7-14700k and a Noctua D15. I loaded your XTU profile and experienced instability(computer crashed). Plz help.
I just made a recent video here czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile
Yes I did. I set the it to 3 and then to 4, instability with both. My level 1=greater vdroop, 8=minimum Vdroop. Another note as well, I have “CPU load line calibration” as well as “CPU Input Voltage Load line calibration” in my bios. Do both of these need to be adjusted?
Hi.I need your help pls.I have a MSI Z790 Carbon Wifi mobo.I would like to change the "Undervolt protection"-"Intel Virtualization Technology" and "VT-d". I do not know where I can found "these" options in the Bios. Thank you.
Can you use the search tool and search for "under"? You will find the undervolt protection called "CPU undervolt protection". Also, search for Intel Virtualization, and you should find it.
Yes, Intel CPUs can be very efficient, they're just poorly adjusted out of the box, but with just some adjustments you can get awesome performance and thermals
Is it better to set these values in BIOS? I noticed Intel Extreme Utility needs to be manually loaded on startup and sometimes the profile needs to be manually activated by saying show values and then apply.
it's good to set them in BIOS, i think XTU has a good use when you are trying to understand limits and values, and once you are satisfied you can port them to BIOS for a definite application, i do that, but XTU is good when you like to switch between different settings on the fly, it's undoubtedly saved me lot of time knowing what to adjust,
not able to change core voltage offset in negitive. i have done is in the first run but then system crased and now cant find the solution motherboard is gigabyte z790 ud ax ddr5
@nanngahatoori, make sure to change the Load Line Calibration level. I think your motherboard has eight levels. Try level 4. This way, you can undervolt it more than -0.065 mV. I got it stable at -0.150 mV. In order to start seeing a significant temperature drop, you need to reduce the voltage by at least 0.100 mV.
Yes, for the XTU profile to be applied, the software should also be running. It's a defensive mechanism in case you experience instability and crash. If the profile were applied without the app running, you could end up stuck and unable to access Windows. This way, you can avoid running the software that is causing the profile issues.
Did you change the load line calibration setting in BIOS before applying them in XTU? It's an essential step, and you can find it in a part of the video around 9:00
I have artic liquid freezer iii 320 aio and a Liam li 216 case with 14700 and 3090 core 4-5 are fastest but core 5 thermal throttle. it get to 100 c preety fast while other cores are at 85 c what should I do . Great video . If room is cool it’s fine ..
your cooling setup is better than mine, i got 240mm EK-NUCLEUS, you can easily have them lower whats your motherboard ? if its ASROCK you can follow this other guide to do in bios if you prefer czcams.com/video/IWU-L1kChzg/video.html that's the only motherboard I have so thats why its the only one with bios settings video too but otherwise you may also follow this method in XTU and it could work on all systems even with different motherboards, its a universal intel tool
I've got an i7 14700KF with a Asus TUF Z790 Plus Wifi and attempting to use you're profile. But apon trying apply the profile I'm notified Watchdog timer is unavailable at this point. So I can't move forward with testing. Anyone else getting this? Apparently it's a known issue with Asus Z790 boards and XTU What's my best course of action now. Some info from the Asus forum topic on the issue: ASUS uses the Watchdog timer on XMP to ensure system sustainability, hence it will limit IXTU from using WDT. If there's any room for manoeuvre on this I'll update the post. (02/07/2024)
Hello, After a blue screen I had to reset my bios and now the program does not open, it stays loading in the logo, I already uninstalled and installed it several times until I deleted the files and profiles but it remains the same.
Perhaps you need to remove its files in app data and temp. Check also program data in the C drive. In view, check the "unhide" items to see those folders.
@daniel12603 Hmm, that's weird. I think I remember it happened to me once, after uninstalling XTU, you will still find an XTU folder in the C drive program files, so delete it and reinstall again. I remember that's what I did to fix the stuck logo screen.
Which test is failing ? None of them passed? You can try to increase the voltage offset to like -150 Or try with all p cores at 5.5ghz In BIOS which load line calibration do u have? In mine if I set it to level 4 or 5 it's not stable , From level 3 it's working fine It's very important to adjust the load line calibration otherwise it may not be a voltage issue but the vdrop causing the system to not be stable
I haven't had any issues once I undervolted my CPU. I understand it's a big deal for someone with less knowledge to tune their CPU by reducing its voltage. Intel is supposed to provide an optimal experience out of the box, yet we need to do it ourselves, tbh it's a big damage to Intel's reputation in the PC enthusiast community I made another one here checking intel guidelines: czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.htmlsi=5w21uTLKyc9m2vpe
I think your CPU can reach higher clocks while staying within safe thermal limits. What is your current maximum temperature, cooling setup, and motherboard name? Have you attempted undervolting in the BIOS or XTU?
@@TECHOSAUR i dont know how to enable virtualization based security , cant access intel extreme tuning, i used to have 5.5 ghz but cpu is reaching 100 peak. i have msi z790 max wifi and cooler is Corsair iCUE H100i Elite , thats why i want it to be on 4.9 or 5ghz so it doesnt reach 100c on peak, core 5 and other 1 peaks at 100 then goes back to around 70
We need to turn under volt protection OFF, not ON With it OFF, you can under volt in Windows by using tools like XTU, but if u don't have that option, u can still do it in BIOS, it's different ways for the same outcome
Hello, i have a Problem with my Pc I buy for 1 week new pc I9 14900k 4080 super 32gb ram 6000mhz 1000watt power In benchmark crash up over 100 degrees . And if i play a game 5min later crash only game I must set in 220watt power. Then is ok. Can any help me thanks
You need to undervolt it. All the latest Intel CPUs overheat out of the box. They're set to a very high voltage that causes over 100 degrees. Install XTU and try to follow some of this guide to undervolt your 14900k. What's your motherboard? Perhaps you can undervolt it there too.
If you're a proper linux "enthusiast", a simple google would have told you Intel XTU app is only for windows and not linux. This video already mentions so in its title, please look at the other video which shows you how to underclock it via BIOS settings
If you're a proper linux "enthusiast", a simple google would have told you Intel XTU app is only for windows and not linux. This video already mentions so in its title, please look at the other video which shows you how to underclock it via BIOS settings
I did everything the same as you, hit apply, then the pc crashed and restarted. When it came back on all the settings were back to what they were by default. I'm so annoyed by this entire process. I wish I never bought this computer
It's to be expected. You can't apply them if you haven't changed the LLC control in the BIOS (load line calibration setting, I mean). Please tell me your motherboard so we can see how to do it. Only after setting it may you proceed in XTU. For reference, I mean this part, which I changed it in my BIOS 9:05 My motherboard has 5 levels and by default, the auto is level 5 which gives the biggest voltage drop under load but runs the coolest. Since we undervolt the CPU, keeping it on the lowest level will not make it possible to work. We'll have to choose the middle level usually, which is a good balance for stability and thermals. So if ur motherboard has 8 levels, choose 4 Let me know if u have some difficulty with it
did you change anything in BIOS such as the Load Line Calibration level ? it's important when under volting to have at least a balanced current level the usual factory AUTO selection for LLC is the lowest and it has the biggest vdrop. since we undervolting, so it will not be stable, its crucial to set at least the moderate level for LLC found in voltages section in BIOS for VRM, for example, my motherboard has 5 levels and choosing level 3 is the best as in this case it won't get hot and still be stable, please tell me your motherboard type and whether if you have other settings applied in BIOS
@@TECHOSAUR I sent this in discord too if youd rather talk there. Ive got z7900-a d5 2-32gb ddr5 vengeance 6400mt/s slotted in a2 and b2 and a 14700kf. IM having much more issues than just trying to undervolt. Found your video in an attempt to possibly find a fix to my problem. ive reinstalled windows countless times and ran every test and scan known to man. some apps wont install most have trouble opening even if i do get them installed and i constantly get random BSODS if i try to do ANYTHING that puts a load on my computer. occt bsods. ixtu bsods. starting a game give me a backlit black screen. and this all started from discord not wanting to stay open. would randomly close and i got tired of it so figured it was time to upgrade some stuff and start fresh. I bought the z790-a the ddr5 ram and swapped the psu i had in there for one from a previous build.(its better) 750w(basic psu) to 850 G5 gold evga. i changed the load line calibration and it actually made a difference. i was able to get into windows for the first time with xmp1 enabled. i just dont really know where to go from here. its how i stunbled upon your video in the first place. just looking for a miracle fix. lmao
Hi, I have a copied all the steps but keep blue screening when i benchmark or stress test ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI II 32gb ram ddr5 i7-14700k 4080 gpu And I’m on XMP ii Load line number 2 in between 1-3 Plz help
do you have any AI features enabled in your BIOS? i know that ASUS has tons of them and they would interfere with manual changes make sure to disable any AI auto option if that didn't work, try to shift the voltage offset by 5 each CPU unit has its sweet spot and it can also depend on other BIOS settings you have
For Asus mobo it seems impossible to enable watchdog so no way to keep settings after a reboot. I would be glad if anybody have a solution to this (probably intended) issue.
@@TECHOSAUR Watchdog timers are used to monitor complex systems and maintain the reliability of a system. In XTU it is needed to detect a crash so to not apply the settings at reboot. Check at the bottom of the system tab of xtu. Problem is, it seems Asus disabled the loading of teh watchdog driver purposely. Why ? My guess is they don't want a software doing what their expensive mobos do, but for free. I dont' see any other explanation. Anyway, XTU on Asus mobos won't reapply settings automatically at boot as watchdog driver isn't loaded. Shame ASUS...
@@davidg.1387 that sucks. I wanted to undervolt with xtu but I found out it can't be done with asus mobo... even though I have watchdog timer driver installed.
Hi, Bro. I have an i7-13700K and an MSI board and it's much easier there and I get about -10°C. I still have the same POWER, I set unlimited. Nice work, but this is not something a normal person would come up with :-) How did you figure it out? :-)) 😀😀😀 Thx.
I do a lot of testing approximately a week of extensive trials and errors to find the best config at least for my CPU unit, motherboard and cooling setup Every system could get a different result but I was just sharing my experience with mine and the process I followed exactly I'm still using those configs and it's really much cooler now, I love Intel CPUs for their big headroom to under volt 👍
@@TECHOSAUR I also like the Intel i7-14700K. I'll rethink if it's worth replacing when I have an i7-13700K that's also pretty good. I'm using a cheap cooler, and the telots are about 70°C in games with undervolting. But a lot of people are badmouthing Intel... I also have and RYZEN 7800x3D and it's +- the same for gaming.
Did you check the temperature as you play? Maybe it's thermal throttling shifting clocks up and down, and this may introduce stutters and unexpected performance
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Hi, i just bought my pc wth specs: i7 14700K Prime Z790-P Wifi RTX 4070 Ti Super DDR5 6000mhz 16x2 But when i try to test Cinebench R23 i just got Multicore 28000pts & Singlecore 2100pts, is this normal? After Cinebench R23 test i check HWINFO and i got throttiling say "Yes" & so many 80 - 90c temps on core temperatures.
in your video you say to disable undervolt protection, but the xtu programme won't open unless its enabled, literally pops up saying it won't open without it enabled. another thing this programme is pretty useless if you have to do these settings everytime because the watchdog feature isn't available to asus users anymore since january 2024.
It's strange that it never displayed for me the message to enable undervolt protection. I just tried it now with the latest version of XTU, and undervolt protection was off.
Sadly, I followed this guide and my benchmark ran hotter, with slower P&E core max Frequency and lower points, along with power limit throttling. I'll check everything over again to make sure I didn't miss anything but I don't think I did. Edit, I get lower scores on Cinebench 2024 After downloading your profile I see there is a change in System Agent Voltage which seems to improve my scores a bit, Was that not in the video or did I just not see it? can anyone answer this for me please?
System memory agent frequency pertains to the memory, not the CPU core. It aids in tightening memory timings, which determine how tight the timings are that you can boot and stabilize. It helps with CPU uncore components
So I applied all settings but temps are still 100 Celsius peaking and in cinebench 80% stays throttled. Bios curved to middle line all exact steps u did and there is 0 improvement. I tested same score with default settings and just minimal undervolt Got a 360 aio that was set to full speed in smart fan so its not a cooling problem. Got a z790 gigabyte Edit: when setting back the calibration to auto in bios, and tested cinebench it was better. Never hit 100 max 98-99:)) but with much higher score and a little less power consumption but it crashes and i dunno what to do.
You probably need to undervolt more. How much Vcore voltage offset did you change? Of course, if you change load-line calibration from auto to a middle level without undervolting, you will get higher temperatures. Setting LLC to any level other than auto (which usually takes the lowest possible value) should be combined with undervolting to take advantage.
@@TECHOSAUR like video -165mv, how much more? I also have 5 levels of LLC but they are defined low high standard etc. And I made sure it's the middle one. But without it the system bricks so I guess it's important to have it on and I say I should undervolt even more? How much more? Assuming it's worse than default right now
@razvanilie6346 that's strange, did you monitor power consumption before and after? Check in hwinfo for some metrics before and after, it might not be booting with it
@razvanilie6346 Do you have any AI or auto multi-core enhancement settings applied in your Gigabyte BIOS? I'm not sure if they might interfere. It's weird that with lower voltage you are getting higher temperatures. For LLC, I know that Gigabyte has 8 levels. Did you choose high or extreme?
Hi, I tried these settings with Load Line Calibration 3 but either Benchmark crashes or Stress Test fails. CPU: i7 14700kf GPU: Zotac 4080 OC Mobo: Asrock Nova z790 Memory: Corsair 64gb @ 6400 I moved Load Line Calibration to 2 and it's stable, but temps increase back to ~90c What should I begin to calibrate to keep load line @ 3 and improve stability?
You could lower clock ratios or increase voltage, since increasing load line calibration to a higher level will make it much hotter, and it's obviously not worth it, making the whole process pointless. If you lower clocks even by one ratio, you will get so much headroom for lowering voltages, which will all reflect in lower temps. It's only ideal to use the balanced LLC to get good stability with reasonable thermals
Mein pc hat sich erstmal verabschiedet nach diesen Einstellungen in einem Blue Screen.. Ganz toll! Bitte aufpassen bevor ihr es macht. Einfach mit dem Intel Programm das zu machen funktioniert nicht!
Haben Sie die Einstellung der Lastlinienkalibrierung im BIOS geändert? Es ist wichtig, diese von „Auto“ auf eine Stufe zu ändern, die eine stabilere Spannung liefert, um die Systemstabilität zu gewährleisten. Ein unzureichend eingestellter Spannungsabfall kann zu einem BSOD führen, besonders unter starker Belastung. Dies könnte die Ursache für die temporären BSODs sein, die Sie erleben Bitte teilen Sie mir das Modell Ihres Motherboards mit, damit ich Ihnen weiterhelfen kann
@@luckyluck1611 Sie müssen ins BIOS gehen und die Option zur Lastlinienkalibrierung auf Modus 5 einstellen, da Ihr Motherboard 8 Auswahlmöglichkeiten hat. Dadurch wird die Spannung stabilisiert und eine Unterspannung ermöglicht. Andernfalls kann Ihr System bei jedem Unterspannungsversuch neu starten oder instabil werden. Images ibb.co/Wxc9GWn ibb.co/jzR3CyS
Thanks for the video! I have a a 14700kf, 32gb 6000mhz and a asrock z790 pro rs, I did the the tutorial but i keep getting a blue screen, do you know how can I fix it?
Try adjusting the load line calibration level. You can find that setting in your motherboard BIOS menu. You need to set the middle level, just like I did. For example, mine has five levels, and for me, the sweet spot is level three, where I get a minimum temperature increase but good stability, it's very crucial step to maintain voltage since ar are undervolting, auto setting is usually the lowest
@@TECHOSAUR it is level 3, sometimes it won’t crash immediately, but if I open any game/app it will give me a blue screen or automatically restart the pc
@@TECHOSAUR Would it be possible to actually answer this question? I'm having literally the exact same issue cant figure it out at all. I open XTU, re-apply the settings again and again, same result. Play a game and maybe it works for a little while, 20-30min MAX? Screen freezes, PC dies and breaks to pieces it instantly just goes black, PC makes a "click" noise indicating power switching off, then loads into the BIOS on a page that says load default settings and boot/or reboot. 14700KF, 360mm Kraken Elite AIO, Aorus z790 Pro X, RTX 4070ti Super, 6600DDR5, 990 Pro SSD, Win10 Home, Full Specs. I just want to keep my CPU from averaging 38-45 degrees idle on the desktop, and while under non intensive normal load(Playing video games) averaging 60-70 on any game and some things making it go as high as 85-89 which is absolutely outrageously unnecessary. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you for ur time.
I apply all steps and giving me blue screen. after that rebooting with optimized default. Edit: I have z790 aero g motherboard Pair with: 64gb 6000mhz trident Z 360 aio Nzxt kraken rgb Msi gaming z trio 3060ti
Okay did you change the load line calibration level ? It shouldn't be on auto with this config Try to select the middle level found in ur motherboard If that didn't work try to reduce the voltage offset by -5 Keep doing that until it's stable or you can check whether you need to reduce clock ratios, but I would suggest you first to try the load line Calibration middle level
@@karlfrancisco8981 do you get BSOD immediately or after running a specific workload ? perhaps lowering the AVX2 ratio could help if its an AVX specific
Hello my brother, thank you for video! So, i have the same processor that you have i7-14700k, but because of i dont understand anything in PC bedore, i bought motherboard MSI MAG B760M MORTAR MAX WIFI. And i cant off the undervolt protection. I saw that you've pinned some guides, but i cant understand anything in that... Sorry, that im taking time from you I wish my processor was as stable as yours, but I don't know what to do yet. in my stress tests, it beats at 100 Celsius in a couple of seconds. Although my cooling system is three-section at 300 tdp
But in BIOS do u have voltage offset ? U don't need to explicitly under volt in XTU, U can do it in ur MSI bios too, there should be voltage settings somewhere
@@TECHOSAUR i copied your XTU settings in my XTU. Im playing cs2. it never crashed, but it crashed 2times after i used your XTU settings. by the way - temp improved alot, like -10c.
You shouldn't install a different chipset BIOS than the one made for yours. You can visit your motherboard's suppoet page and download the latest version uploaded, which should be the optimal one
I wish I could, but I have limited access to components. Trust me, though, the 14700k is very similar to the 13700k, except for core numbers of efficiency from 8 to 12. Also, higher clock potential on the 14700k. Aside from that, if you follow this guide, I think it will help with under volting the 13700k as well. If you are having a problem, please let me know. I can try to help!
Check to see if you have any AI features enabled in the BIOS and deactivate all of them, as they will interfere with any manual changes you make. That likely explains why even small decrements aren't stable. Also, make sure to set the load line calibration level to level 4 on your Asus board. There are 8 levels, so choose the middle one.
Hello. I can't apply the flag on Restore after reboot (3.05) and unfortunately trying to update the drivers nothing has changed. I have an Asus Z790-E Gaming WiFi II and I9-14900K, how can I solve the problem, have you found a solution?
Maybe you need to apply the settings first, then check that window to see if that option is available. Or, try reinstalling XTU. It's also possible that your Windows account isn't an administrator account, which could prevent XTU from applying the settings in the Windows scheduler
@@TECHOSAUR Hello, I have already tried all of the above and the problem remains. I also reinstalled XTU as an administrator and forced it to always boot as an administrator, it doesn't let me put the FLAG on that entry. It's a problem that a lot of people have with both Asus and MSI
If you want to reduce temps even further. you can lower Core ratio and that eventually lets you under volt it even further, I wanted to not lose the default multi core Ratio 5.5GHz and that's the least possible for my silicon, curious to know your results and if you need any help don't hesitate to write here.
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Hey is it safe to use ur results fpr my 13700k either ? not like importing ur profile but following ur steps in video to undervolt my 13700k . atm i just tested -100mV on all cores with -70mV on the fastest ones but didnt chaned anything else yet.
@@disturebd I think you can increase the fast cores ratio for a better single core performance
Are u getting good temps with ur current settings ?
They're safe to try
@@TECHOSAUR yeah i also have a profile for that cause the one i told u is just for powersaving like if i play LoL where now performance is needet thats the best and my temps after 10 min cinebench r23 are on 85°C max. On the other one i have just -70 mV on all cores but having + 100mhZ all core and did a single / dual core boost to 5,7 Ghz. Where Temps reach 90°C in Cinebench 92°C in Summer.
ok so i Try some of Ur settings aswell. I want to get to Know more about undervolting overall.
Little sidequestion my freind has a ASUS Rog z790-H Gaming Wifi with a 14700k There XTU dont work with the saving settings tro next resatrt feature and in bios is no " corevoltage offset setting " more like voltage offset bound to a specific clock, do i have to use i differnt offset for every clock or could i just use like -100mV on every step ?. atm -105mV is max i could use on his XTU (tested with AIDA,Cinebench, yChruncher and OCCT for 1h each) and is there a difference between the offset in bios to the ofset if i use xTU ? Thanks for ur replys :)
Does ur profile seen in this video work for an i9 14900k?@@TECHOSAUR
The 14900k has better headroom for undervolting and clock ratio; this profile done for 14700k, but it may work
this video aged VERY well. came back here after intel's microcode fix (125) and i'm able to undervolt even more
gonna revisit this video again after intel releases the final fix (mid august)
best video you're the king
Thanks, I’m glad to help!
I can finally run xmp after the microcode update. 192gb at 7200mhz cl30 and im happy.
@@98f5on a 14700K? Or a 14900K? Btw, congrats 👍
@asmongoldsmouth9839 14900k.
Funny thing i build alot of computers for customers and this issue is completely rampant.
I'm very lucky to have seen this video.
Today is 08.08.2024.
Intel's issues with processors and BIOS updates probably started about 2-3 weeks ago.
I have a 14700K processor
Asus Rog Strix Z790-E Gaming Wifi II motherboard
I use a 360MM liquid cooler
Currently, I have the latest BIOS update downloaded from Asus's website and I am using Intel's default settings.
Despite this, whenever I ran any CPU stress test, almost all performance cores were thermal throttling and hitting 100 degrees.
After making the settings mentioned here, I saw a maximum of 75 degrees in the XTU stress test. This is amazing.
I did three tests in XTU: normal CPU, AVX, and AVX2.
The normal CPU test failed, but the other two successfully completed the 5-minute test.
I didn't get any blue screens, and the system seems to be working perfectly right now.
That's good to know. I'm happy to know, but I want to inform you that Intel has released a new BIOS version including a microcode 129 update.
It should help optimize it better.
In addition to the undervolting you did, it should improve stability
@@TECHOSAUR I have 14700kf processor. Should I use the same settings? I have read that new microcode 129 update is not good as the temperature rise and uses more volt. Thanks in advance.
@@garysingh4997 updating to 129 code completely removes heat issue of cpu on my pc. Under stress test, Temp not rising over 80
@@FearlessFrog Thanks. I tried this settings as per this video and I got blue screen. Maybe because my processor is 14700kf. I will try updating to 129 and hopefully that will fix my issue.
@@garysingh4997 I hope so, can you give feedback here after trying?
Fantastic advice, makes the 14900K much more power efficient while sacrificing little performance!
Brilliant guide, thanks for making it!
Could you repeat this tutorial but for the 13600k? I know you’ve already made a tutorial for UV in bios, but as most bioses are different a XTU tutorial would be preferred.
But thanks for your quality videos and hard work!
I would like one for the 14600k. I would guess the 13600K would be the same, and thus a 13600k tutorial would work for the 14600k?
Also, would this 14700k tutorial work for the 14600k and the 13600k? Ty, good video.
No, no, no and no
Thanks!
I just did change the pl1&2 to 150 and now in c23 I got 1.2k points less but also like 15 degrees less too.
Not a big performance loss for the temperature drop!. Perhaps if you undervolt a bit, you can achieve even lower temperatures
@@TECHOSAUR Do i undervolt in the tool or should i go into bios and change it there ?
@GoodBoyYuuki You can do it in XTU like I did here, but what's your motherboard?
You also need to modify some settings in the BIOS, like the load line calibration. Check that part in the video if u like to know how i did it
I did change it to 4 (out of 8) and I got a z690 pro a ddr4. Which setting is for undervolting on the tool?
@@TECHOSAUR i guess to undervolt it more its the core voltage offset ? how much you think i can add ?
I didnt expect you to reply to my comment! You're actually willing to help too... I will get the info when I get home and tell you. In the mean time, do you have a patreon or something? I can't believe you replied, and I see you're replying to basically everyone else too actually trying to help people... I'm very impressed and I want to say thank you.
I've been going on to Reddit and other forums online writing in-depth pages about what I've been experiencing with details and hardly get any help. A lot of the time people will literally tell me to do something that I specifically said I already tried.
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this did not age well when it comes to microcode update x129 on gigabyte. Setting the intel settings to disabled and gigabyte perf profile on will crash your computer in gaming. This video however, was the video that initially helped me build 4 computers with the 14700k. The intel settings do disable undervolting unfortunetly BUT with those temp limits i was able to set aggressive temp limits with the turbo and keep temps under 90c. Ive also noticed turning on iccmax to unlimited and keeping turbo timing settings default will stabilize and actually boost your system performance. Thank you!
Sorry to know its not working well after the update, did check this one ?
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Ive reseated my 420mm Arctic Freezer III AIO twice and my 14700k is still able to reaches 87C at stock levels LOL. No idea how this is possible considering you have a much smaller cooler.
Hopefully your config helps.
EDIT:
Your config made a huge difference in the XTU benchmark wattage/temperatures, bringing me down to around 213w at 75C. Using OCCT however is a different story, still drawing the full 255w whilst sitting at a max temp of 94C on the SSE test. (with a 420mm cooler mind you haha)
Cinebench sits around 95c/255w as well.
Try to reduce the AVX ratio to make it consume less power. OCCT AVX workloads are quite stressful, and lowering the ratio is crucial to prevent overheating.
Brother first of all thnx for such a detailed video over XTU... Will be a lot of help for newbies and intermediate guys as well but still what I personally found that leaving Iccmax to unlimited was feeding a lot of unhealthy Amps which was making the system in turn unstable so I manually set it to 380amps minding intel guidelines for Intel's vcc core performance config..... Would be helpful if you shed some light into the same thnx...👍
Thanks for the tip!!
will try to revisit this and include it, I plan to make video about intel guidelines, thanks again
Very good video 👍 Thanks.
Thank you amazing video! This motherboard is on my list to get.
A really well-priced one for all it packs, totally a good recommendation after using it for over 6 months
@@TECHOSAUR i really want it but the next gen will come out in 5 months, they promise 20% better performannce but im not sure if they will deliver and if its even worth to wait that long
My friend need this guide!! thank you techosaur
Happy to help!
Yes thanks for this. What a difference to temps , volts and speed. Have you updated your Intel extreme profile after the recent bios update fixes nby intel and MOBO makers?
Yes, I always update my BIOS whenever there's a new version. I made a video about the one I installed on my ASRock motherboard.
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I've had no issues since the update, but I did have to adjust my XTU profile for the ICCMAX.
I hope I can try different motherboard brands because, on ASRock, things seem to be okay, but others from different motherboards aren't finding it easy with those predefined profiles. Maybe ASUS fixed it, but I heard initially their options caused instability
@@TECHOSAUR I have the Asus Strix Z790 D4 (ddr4 edition) and using your "old" profile no no issues thus far in gaming scenarios which is all that matters for me.
There is a 3 fps difference in some games, there is no difference in some games. There is a difference in the use of heat and power, but I think it is unnecessary, there is no need to take risks for this.
It's not about performance gain but reducing excessive thermals
@@TECHOSAUR Ok
Hi. Excellent tutorial, I have learned a lot. Thank you.
I have a question, if you can help me. I have a 14700K air cooled in an ITX case. The MB is Asrock Z790 PG ITX. I am trying to get as much performance out of it as possible. For this I have modified in BIOS (0x129) the following items: Power Short and Long set to 200W, All cores at 55, AVXoffset at 2, and LLC at 3. With those parameters I have good performance but the temp is close to 100ºC. With offset of -0.100 the temp improves (90-92ºC). And now I have seen this tutorial and I have used your parameters in Intel XTU for undervolt with an offset of -0.165 and it is now quite good and stable. The problem is that in BIOS the max offset is -0.100. In another tutorial of yours I have seen that it is possible to increase the offset in BIOS with a multi-point curve in FIRV configuration. I have copied your points in XTU, and although they work, the performance is very low, I only reach a speed of 4.2 Mhz. What am I doing wrong, how can I know which values to use in the curve, so that the performance doesn't drop?
In the end I was able to set some stable values in the BIOS, and I uninstalled XTU because it was creating interference with the BIOS and now everything is OK.
Glad to know. Did you set it in BIOS using FIVR points or global offset voltage?
Yes, also my motherboard has only -0.100 max.
That's why I use FIVR points, which can go lower.
@@TECHOSAUR FIRV, based on your values, with a bit of tweaking from me. Thanks for these great videos.
Super guide Thank you !.
Yw, glad to help
Thank you for this detailed and informative video. Could you please make a video of 14900k with ASUS MB? Very less video for 14900k undervolting videos for the same. Thanks in advance.
I'll try when I get an asus board, thanks
@@TECHOSAUR looking forward for it 😃
Still crashing. Same everything.
Setup
Asus dark hero z790
7200ddr5
4090
Do you have Asus AI features turned on? They might interfere. Also, set load line calibration to level 4 for your motherboard.
Thanks for the guide, I followed your steps with my 14700k and MSI PRO Z790-P Motherboard. I have a H115I CPU cooler but for some reason when running all of these benchmarks I am hitting 90 degrees + very quickly, eg. 1 or 2 minutes in to the testing. Do you have any idea why? I tried to re-apply thermal paste (ARCTIC MX-6) but it didn't really help. Ambient temperature in my room is about 20-25 degrees.
Do you have enough case ventilation? And do you have your case fans oriented in the right position to ensure optimal airflow?
If you believe so, I think your only choice is to lower the voltage even further, and if it doesn't work with the set clocks, just reduce the ratio until you balance thermals and performance.
@@TECHOSAUR Yes I believe so, I have the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv, it's a bit older but has great flow. I have the radiator front mounted pulling air in, and then top and back fans extracting air.
@@ithinkv also it can be bented socket. try to remove it and apply new contact frame
@@TECHOSAUR So turns out I had a very small region of faulty memory in my brand new RAM... only showed in the last few seconds of MEMTEST, and never crashed during benchmarks etc. These settings are running pretty stable now, Although I am hitting 90 degrees in cinebench, May need to change the volt offset, do I increase that or lower it (go further negative).
Why you dont touch AC/DC_LL? I think those technically also undervolt, perhaps even better than just a standard Vcore offset. You just need to make sure you pick the right LLC
You are correct.
Here is a link to a more recent video in which I combine the CPU core voltage and changes in power profiles with the AC/DC loadline:
czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.htmlsi=SprQNwQ7Tdb08G42
But the thing is, if you want to create a more standard guide that will cover a wider audience and different motherboards, it's better to use a standard voltage approach directly on the CPU than motherboard load lines because different vendors might use different baseline values than my ASRock one. For that, I need to try different brands and make a guide for each of them. I thought it would be better to make changes on the CPU since it's what everyone will use rather than doing most of the work on the motherboard.
My 14700kf max temp only went down from 99 to 98 would you recommend to continue dropping the offset/undervolting amount? I’m getting really discouraged from even using intel and may just switch out my CPU and Mobo.
That's not considered a drop; it could be within the margin of error.
What modifications are you attempting to make?
Did u try the XTU technique?
Wow. Incredible its nearly 20c cooler at times.
Hi thx for sharing this very helpfull video. Could you pls let me know if this profile will work well with i7 14700k+msi mag z790 tomahawk with a Noctua NH d15 aircooler?
You will still have to change the Load Line Calibration in your MSI mobo, choose the middle level because on your model there should be more than 5 levels like it is for my ASRock
I think 8, so choose 5 or 4 or one of them is highlighted as best for OC, i mean to keep our undervolting stable under load
if you notice higher temp, try to reduce the PL 1, and PL2 slightly, because I think the max TDP for your cooler is 220w, so I would suggest you limit PL1 to around 210 and PL2 to 220W
Hi. I just built a new PC with the Gigabyte Aorus z790 Elite AX mb and the I7 14,700k proc. In the bios I disabled undervolt protection, Intel virt tech, and VT-d. There is apparently another setting that needs tweaked because in XTU, undervolt protection is still enabled. Ideas? Thanks!
A couple hours later...
I did figure out how to disable undervolt protection, and I applied all the settings you recommend, but I'm still missing something. The bios settings on this mb are different for "load line configuration" (9:04), and I was not able to figure it out. The computer boots fine, but any sort of stress test fails within a few seconds. Thanks!
Great Video! Just a question, as you had set LLC, you would also set DC/AC_LL. If both are well define I supuse they don’t interfere with the OC made by XTU, right?
I keep IA AC/DC on auto
Because it will interfere with the way it's calculating power limits, it instantly caused instability on mine if make any change on them
thank you for the video. My out of the box temps with intel settings were just all over the place, cpu fans blasting randomly just doing nothing and games being all over the place, these settings settled them down nicely while maintaining about the same performance.
Thank you for tuning in 🙏
I'm honored
in Gigabyte z790 Aours
i have 9 options 😂
For load-line cailbraton
Auto
Normal
Standard
Low
Medium
High
Turbo
Extreme
UltraExtreme
what should i go !!??
Try High and under volt
Very good video but it would have been good to show people what to set in y cruncher you skipped that part lol
Thanks!
I run the component stress tester, so when u open Y-cruncher you press options in this order :
1 - Components Stress Tester
7 - Enable all
0 - Start
@@TECHOSAUR thanks
Hello! I really like this video and the new ones. I do have i7-14700k on a MSI Tomahawk wifi 7 pro z790 board and I did my undervolt configuration, working well, very low temps, lil overclock (57-57-56-56-56-56-56-56/44, P1 and P2 at 200w, vcore -0,075), then I loose something in performance. With yours it seems there is no loss, so I want to try it. I download the xtu file and imported it in my xtu configuration app then, like I was wondering, xtu alert me related with the vcore undervolt radio you applied, if memory serve me well, -0,16xx or so. It say it is invalid. In the configuration I made and I said before, like I said, I undervolg then the most stable value is -0,075, pretty much half of your setting. I’m surprised you can apply it to your board considering xtu accept all your other parameters, bur it calls it invalid and I think for a reason! Now I’m not sure to apply your other settings becouse I don’t know if they could work with -0,075 offset I could apply (anything over is not stable, 0,10 crash the system). Let me know also if you do share other xtu filesI could try. Thank you for your great job.
Thanks for the video! Are you in windows 10 or 11? I find it much more difficult to disable all services (virtualization, etc) on 11. Thanks
I'm on Windows 11
You can disable intel virtualization in bios. That's how I do it
But if u prefer win 10, it's possible to do those tweaks in the same manner
Hi, I've been using your profile but I run into BSOD issues. I have a I7-14700K, DeepCool AK620, and an MSI PRO-P WIFI mobo. I have also changed the LL to Mode 4 (Max mode is 8). What should I do?
Try with level 5 which should have less vdroop; otherwise, increase the voltage a bit until it's stable, or you could reduce the ratio and undervolt it, depending on what you prefer.
I’m using a 360 aio with 3 fans, what max power can I go with? 14700k here
You really don't need to get a very high power to get the best out of it, 260 W on PL2, 245 W PL1 are good enough if you under volt
Настройки с видео 4:36 у меня заблокированы в разделе Core... Я не понимаю, что сделать, ибо оно все почти серым
did you run the app in administrator privilege, sometimes lack of admin access may limit the app, also do you see a yellow bolt icon or you disabled under volt protection in BIOS?
what CPU and motherboard do you run ? as some OEM PCs may have them disabled
consider installing previous version of XTU, sometimes it may work
Not getting any negative values in Core Voltage Offset, even if I turned everything off that you mentioned in the BIOS.
What's ur motherboard model ?
@@TECHOSAUR TUF GAMING Z90-PLUS WiFi
After following these settings with the exception of the core voltage offset which is -0,065 (if i go higher i crash) i dont really get much temp differences do you have any idea why that could be.
i7 14700KF, MSI Z790 Carbon, Liquid Freezer III 360
Lowering it by -0.065 won't result in a noticeable temperature drop. Did you perhaps try setting the load line calibration to a middle level like i did? I believe for your MSI board, it should be 8 levels. Someone else tried setting it to level 5. You can also try 4, it should be able to undervolt by more than -0.100mv to start see a decent temp drop
Hello I copied your settings but I keep blue screening. I have MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI and i7-14700K. I put the motherboard to factory settings except enable the XMP 2.0
Also on everything default, my pc also blue scree on cinebench24 multi core test
I just made a recent video here czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html
i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile
My motherboard is msi mpg z790 edge wifi. Is it possible to make these settings with this motherboard?
Yes, XTU works with all MB brands. Let me know if you try it and have any issues.
I have an i5-13600K and an ASRock B760M PG Lightning motherboard. After updating the BIOS to the 104 microcode, the undervolt protection warning disappeared, but I'm still unable to change settings as they are greyed out. What Should i do
Did you disable Intel Virtualization and VT-D?
yes i did , i can even use throttlestop but with intel XTU no chance
Used Level 4 LLC on a Asus z790-h. CPU 38c in games!
🤩
Thanks for the instructions! Unfortunately, I am experiencing a problem with my PC not running with the current settings. Sometimes my computer restarts with the error "Boot failure detected" "The system has experienced a boot failure possibly due to incorrect configuration. previous settings in bios may not be compatible. with current hardware state." I don't use the XPM profile. What could be wrong? I am using Gigabyte Z790 Gaming X AX + i7-14700K
did you change the Load Line Calibration level ? i also made a newer guide here: czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html
hope it may help, i know its different between ASRock and AORUS but at least you can find those settings and ensure they're set in that way, as this one I made guide for is using Intel Guidelines to ensure CPU longevity and stability, also with lower temps
things I activated
High settings on load line calibration
disabled intel default settings
set gigabyte optimum with the max performance profile
enabled all performance cores
disabled integrated graphics
set all fans to run normally
qflash to latest bios
xmp 2.0 with a 6000mhz oc
enabled fast boot
set pcie gen 5
set nvme to gen 4
disabled vt-d and undervolt protection
disabled virtualization
GNA enable
specs:
Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top
Corsair RM650 PSU
Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX
14700k
Thermalright peerless assassin cooler
Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64 gb ram
Crucial p3
EVGA 2080 XC Ultra
Yes, I know my psu is extremely underpowered for my system. Yes i know the 2080 is old. Yes i know the P3 isnt gen4 (I believe)
BUT
I built 2 computers with these specs below
Corsair 4000D case with 2 airguide fans in the front of the case. 2 Thermalright fans in the rear of the case both back and top
Corsair Rm1000x
Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX
14700k
Thermalright peerless assassin
Crucial DDR5 Pro 5600mhz 64gb ram
Crucial T500
Gigabyte Eagle 4070 TI Super
There are a ton of settings I did. Including updating bios and running through all the drivers on the GIGABYTE site. All the drivers through the Nvidia site, and all the windows 11 pro updates and optional updates.
His video was a good start for me. but I was still hitting temps at 100c
I started TDP -1 at 80c for all cores. TDP -2 at 90c
I also used his settings with the intel ai and found a great oc that works.
sometimes the XTU app will crash for no reason. its a stupid program that works. you just gotta put it in your startup folder and make sure it is on as soon as you wake your computer from sleep
yes. put your computer to sleep.
if you want more help. let me know.
Hi nice guide BUT I cant get into XTU if Undervolt Protection is turned ON. It just says itss not compatible with it ...any ideas?
Turn it off then ?
Ty!
I have a dumb question i moved from 10700k to 14700k but then im not getting the fps that im suppose to get infact im getting lower fps then my 10700k. My ssd i didnt do a fresh format. Should i have done that?
What cooling setup do you have? Did you check if your new CPU is thermal throttling? You probably need to undervolt it to see the real benefit over your 10700k. These CPUs run hot by factory settings and undervolting is important even if you are using a custom water loop.
Thanks for your help about get the best performance for 14700k.
But I tried import the profile and XTU indicated that Incompatible Values is Core Voltage Offset -165,0 mV.
I have MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk MAX WIFI and TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan DDR5 6000 MHz CL 38-38-38-78
Check that under volt protection isn't enabled on ur system otherwise you can't under volt it, also Intel virtualization and VT-D should be off in my bios settings
Check part 3:30
If u have that yellow thunderbolt symbol you can't import my voltage offset
@@TECHOSAUR Undervolt Protection, Intel Virtualization and VT-d are OFF on MSI BIOS of my motherboard. In fact, XTU app not working if not disabled these "technologies".
It's not appears the yellow thunderbolt symbol and my pc shutdown a little time after applied the profile :(
I have a question about the energy, is important the Active Power Plan in Windows? I have "Balanced" profile.
The XTU version app is 7.14.0.15
Thanks and Regards from Spain.
@@Mr_Raymon i have your exact hardware and same problems! u managed to solve?
@@p_p Unfortunately, no :(
I tried various Core Voltage Offset values but I only got blue screens.
i have a question Hope u can answer it
why in those 2 test i get half result of every i7 14700k/kf users
in intel XTU Benchmark ( 7135 marks )
and
in Cinebench R23 ( 22702 p,ts )
i orderd the CPU from am, azon ( i7 14700KF )
and when i got it the BOX says it's i7 14700K
that makes me wonder how KF comes in K box
so i'm afraid that it's fake
My Motherboard is Z790
and GPU is RTX 4080
and CPU is 14700KF with Water cooler
i have the same pc and its imposible cinebench gives me 3250 and 11111 in mask benchmark ... something its wrong with your hw
@@Masterpeing
I found out its windows problem
I fix it with format
Hello I need help for undervolting my 14700k when I put all your settings it's getting crash always..
what motherboard do you have?
you also need to check that you have for load line calibration at least the middle-level set, because by default the auto option is set as the lowest one with the biggest vdrop and that causes instability with further under volting, you need to raise the load line calibration level to maintain voltage better, for example, my ASRock board has 5 levels for load line calibration setting, my sweet spot is 3, always choose the middle-way, you can find this setting in motherboard bios, for example i did it on mine min 09:04
@@TECHOSAUR Hey ! I have z790h asus rog strix i have calibrated it on level 4 because there are 7 levels on my motherboard not like u
Thank you for this! Could you share with us your Cinebench 24 multi and single core scores?
I'll try to post it ASAP
Hello, I followed the tutorial to the letter, only I get blue screens as soon as I do something
Can you list your motherboard model, current BIOS update, and applied changes? Thanks and sorry that it crashed
i have a question Hope u can answer it
why in those 2 test i get half result of every i7 14700k/kf users
in intel XTU Beanchmark ( 7135 marks )
and
in Cinebeanch R23 ( 22702 pts )
i orderd the CPU from amazon ( i7 14700KF )
and when i got it the BOX says it's i7 14700K 😅
that makes me wonder how KF comes in K box
so i'm afraid that it's fake 😰
My PC bulid is
Motherboard Z790
GPU RTX 4080
CPU 14700KF with Water cooler
Install CPU-Z.
You can check its full specifications. Also, does the IHS say the name 14700K or KF?
You also need to evaluate if it's thermal throttling, consequently getting such a low score. Did you leave the BIOS settings to default? Because I'm not sure if you have Intel Boosting on or off. If it's at the base clock, it's normal to get a low score.
@@TECHOSAUR
I ordered kf and i got it in k box
And I didn’t change any BIOS Settings
I only enabled XMP for ram
+ when i did all ur steps
In Cinebench r23 benchmark
CPU temp goes to 96c 99c 100c
Is it the reason im getting low score
And in XTU intel benchmark
Head dont go over 90 and i only get 7000
Every i7 14th users get 11 12 13k
@@A9z1o1z what clocks are you getting on Cinebench ? check in XTU in the bottom dashboard, or you can see in HWINFO
well the K is better than the KF, the difference is that the K has an Intel iGPU inside, so if your discrete GPU stops working you can use your CPU iGPU for debugging and still be able to use your PC, the KF variant lacks the iGPU, but for CPU cores it's exactly the same layout
btw I tried to reply to you on Discord but it says you are not on any server in common so my message didn't get delivered 😂
@@TECHOSAUR
Yeah sry after i message you i leaved the server 😂
But i heard there is no differnce between them i7 14700k/kf
only some one with GPU and some one without GPU
and i search for PPL benchmarks on both
The all get in Cinebench R23 ( 32000 pts )+
and in intel XTU benchmark ( 11k or 12k or 13k )
but me
i got in Cinebench R23 ( 22000 )
and in intel XTU ( 7300 )
so i think i got scamed maybe the amazon seller sold me i7 10th but he change he's name to 14th 😂
@@TECHOSAUR
maybe the only solution is to retun it and order K 😅
Why undervolting gives better performance? I dont understand, higher frequencies mean higher performance, no?
But we didn't compromise on frequency as well. I pushed all clocks while boosting the two fast cores to a higher frequency, all while undervolting. However, when you have a lower temperature, you will get consistently good performance, and that will reflect in the final score. While initially, with stock settings, it may boost higher, as soon as it thermally throttles, it will downclock itself hard. Still, voltages will be high to begin with, and it will never recover. With lower voltage, you will give it headroom to boost and stay consistently, offering optimum performance.
@@TECHOSAUR i see, its now about 20 years that i didnt had a desktop, i used laptops but i felt the need for a powerful PC so im building one. Till now i got the Thermaltake Divider 370 case, Deepcool PX1000G ATX 3.0 PSU, Asus Z790 Prime A WIFI motherboard, i9 13900k processor and a Thermalright contact frame, 2x16 G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000mt/s CL32 memory, 980 Pro SSD.
Today i will receive the Deepcool LT720 AIO cooler and i will be able to start the PC and test it for stability and try to tweak it. I will buy the GPU sometime later cause no money left for now, i gathered all the components in a few months and i was hunting for good deals.
I will try to understand and learn more about undervolting, and can you recommend some torture test softwares for RAM memory and CPU. From what i read for RAM would be good MemTest86, for CPU Prime95 and OCCT? Thanks a lot!
Should you set this on bios or just intel xtu?
Mostly in XTU, in BIOS just the ones I showed such as load line calibration, disabling undervolt protection, intel virtualization, and VT-d.
Now that we know the power limits mobo makers are using this should be revisited. They are degrading silicone with these crazy power limits.
I'll check if there has been a significant difference, Thanks!
Hi, i have to always run in the background this app to work?
XTU has a Windows service so it can use the set profile on startup unless the PC crashes. You would avoid having to switch it back again to avoid going through a loop, but you need to enable that option in the XTU settings to load with Windows.
Hello, I am quite new to this. I am running Strix z790-h gaming wifi with i7-14700k and a Noctua D15. I loaded your XTU profile and experienced instability(computer crashed). Plz help.
I just made a recent video here czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.html
i know the difference in boards could be confusing but in your case did you change the Load Line Calibration setting in BIOS ? before applying those settings in XTU, as I said its necessary to adjust the Load Line Calibration level to the middle option to ensure stability, if you can check the latest video, hope it will be of use, and let me know if you changed anything in BIOS prior to using the XTU profile
Yes I did. I set the it to 3 and then to 4, instability with both. My level 1=greater vdroop, 8=minimum Vdroop. Another note as well, I have “CPU load line calibration” as well as “CPU Input Voltage Load line calibration” in my bios. Do both of these need to be adjusted?
Also, I didn’t change anything besides XMP
Hi.I need your help pls.I have a MSI Z790 Carbon Wifi mobo.I would like to change the "Undervolt protection"-"Intel Virtualization Technology" and "VT-d".
I do not know where I can found "these" options in the Bios.
Thank you.
Can you use the search tool and search for "under"? You will find the undervolt protection called "CPU undervolt protection".
Also, search for Intel Virtualization, and you should find it.
@@TECHOSAUR thank zou for ur help.I found it.
Crazy you consistently shave off 15-20 watt and still get better performance.
Yes, Intel CPUs can be very efficient, they're just poorly adjusted out of the box, but with just some adjustments you can get awesome performance and thermals
Is it better to set these values in BIOS? I noticed Intel Extreme Utility needs to be manually loaded on startup and sometimes the profile needs to be manually activated by saying show values and then apply.
it's good to set them in BIOS, i think XTU has a good use when you are trying to understand limits and values, and once you are satisfied you can port them to BIOS for a definite application, i do that, but XTU is good when you like to switch between different settings on the fly, it's undoubtedly saved me lot of time knowing what to adjust,
Do a video Bios vs XTU.
Same settings to see diferences
Okay ! Thanks for the suggestion 👍
@@TECHOSAUR maybe bios perfor better
not able to change core voltage offset in negitive. i have done is in the first run but then system crased and now cant find the solution
motherboard is gigabyte z790 ud ax ddr5
Did you try resetting the (CMOS)?
You need to have undervolt protection, VT-d, and Intel virtualization all three turned off in the BIOS.
No. But after resting bios to default it worked .
Currently testing verious offset value as pc crashing on Above .100 I think it's good with .65
@nanngahatoori, make sure to change the Load Line Calibration level. I think your motherboard has eight levels. Try level 4. This way, you can undervolt it more than -0.065 mV.
I got it stable at -0.150 mV.
In order to start seeing a significant temperature drop, you need to reduce the voltage by at least 0.100 mV.
@@TECHOSAUR owoo that's what I forgot to do.. 🫨🫨 .. can you help where to find it in gigabyte z790
@nanngahatoori Look for it in the Tweaker tab. It's called CPU VCORE Load line calibration, then tell me the levels you find there
do u need intel xtu running in the abckground everytime u turn on the pc to keep these settings ?
Yes, for the XTU profile to be applied, the software should also be running. It's a defensive mechanism in case you experience instability and crash. If the profile were applied without the app running, you could end up stuck and unable to access Windows. This way, you can avoid running the software that is causing the profile issues.
After copying ur guide, and hit the apply button. My pc restarts
Did you change the load line calibration setting in BIOS before applying them in XTU? It's an essential step, and you can find it in a part of the video around 9:00
@@TECHOSAUR ill try to check it later when get home.
By the way, here is my system :
I7 14700kf
Asus prime z790 ddr4 wifi
Trident z 3600mhz cl16 4x8
@@TECHOSAUR i did, lv1 to lv7, i picked the middle which is lv4. Still my pc restarts after clicking apply 😢
@@TECHOSAUR i even enabled ring down. Still it restarts after i hit save
I have artic liquid freezer iii 320 aio and a Liam li 216 case with 14700 and 3090 core 4-5 are fastest but core 5 thermal throttle. it get to 100 c preety fast while other cores are at 85 c what should I do . Great video . If room is cool it’s fine ..
your cooling setup is better than mine, i got 240mm EK-NUCLEUS, you can easily have them lower
whats your motherboard ? if its ASROCK you can follow this other guide to do in bios if you prefer
czcams.com/video/IWU-L1kChzg/video.html
that's the only motherboard I have so thats why its the only one with bios settings video too
but otherwise you may also follow this method in XTU and it could work on all systems even with different motherboards, its a universal intel tool
I've got an i7 14700KF with a Asus TUF Z790 Plus Wifi and attempting to use you're profile.
But apon trying apply the profile I'm notified Watchdog timer is unavailable at this point.
So I can't move forward with testing.
Anyone else getting this?
Apparently it's a known issue with Asus Z790 boards and XTU
What's my best course of action now.
Some info from the Asus forum topic on the issue: ASUS uses the Watchdog timer on XMP to ensure system sustainability, hence it will limit IXTU from using WDT. If there's any room for manoeuvre on this I'll update the post. (02/07/2024)
Sorry I'm not using an asus board so I don't know about this, if I learn something I'll update you
Hello, After a blue screen I had to reset my bios and now the program does not open, it stays loading in the logo, I already uninstalled and installed it several times until I deleted the files and profiles but it remains the same.
Perhaps you need to remove its files in app data and temp. Check also program data in the C drive. In view, check the "unhide" items to see those folders.
@@TECHOSAUR I did it until I downloaded a program to delete the data from the Windows registry and it's still the same.
@daniel12603 Hmm, that's weird. I think I remember it happened to me once, after uninstalling XTU, you will still find an XTU folder in the C drive program files, so delete it and reinstall again. I remember that's what I did to fix the stuck logo screen.
My stress tests keep failing and I can’t figure out why I’ve sat here adjusting the volts for the past 30 min. Followed your settings, Any idea?
Which test is failing ?
None of them passed?
You can try to increase the voltage offset to like -150
Or try with all p cores at 5.5ghz
In BIOS which load line calibration do u have?
In mine if I set it to level 4 or 5 it's not stable ,
From level 3 it's working fine
It's very important to adjust the load line calibration otherwise it may not be a voltage issue but the vdrop causing the system to not be stable
@@TECHOSAUR Thank you for the reply and the awesome videos you have been making brother
is it good to do today about intel elevated voltage degrading issue?
I haven't had any issues once I undervolted my CPU. I understand it's a big deal for someone with less knowledge to tune their CPU by reducing its voltage. Intel is supposed to provide an optimal experience out of the box, yet we need to do it ourselves, tbh it's a big damage to Intel's reputation in the PC enthusiast community
I made another one here checking intel guidelines:
czcams.com/video/tLB1fFsIjas/video.htmlsi=5w21uTLKyc9m2vpe
Very Nice. thanks.
I cant open my xtu... persist messenge to check virtualization, under. protect, etc
Did you disable under volt protection ?
please help, i want the 14900k to be around 4.9ghz how i do this? i have msi z790
I think your CPU can reach higher clocks while staying within safe thermal limits. What is your current maximum temperature, cooling setup, and motherboard name? Have you attempted undervolting in the BIOS or XTU?
@@TECHOSAUR i dont know how to enable virtualization based security , cant access intel extreme tuning, i used to have 5.5 ghz but cpu is reaching 100 peak. i have msi z790 max wifi and cooler is Corsair iCUE H100i Elite , thats why i want it to be on 4.9 or 5ghz so it doesnt reach 100c on peak, core 5 and other 1 peaks at 100 then goes back to around 70
I was starting to get blue screens and after stopping intel extreme utility it seems to have resolved it.
Hi ! Is there any chance to disable undervolt protrction on Asrock B760 steel legend
Check the 104 microcode article on Reddit:
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I personally never tried it, but I know some who got it working.
how do you even undervolt anymore with that bro when you Have to Turn On undervolt protection Just for it to work????? BS man
We need to turn under volt protection OFF, not ON
With it OFF, you can under volt in Windows by using tools like XTU, but if u don't have that option, u can still do it in BIOS, it's different ways for the same outcome
Hello, i have a Problem with my Pc
I buy for 1 week new pc
I9 14900k
4080 super
32gb ram 6000mhz
1000watt power
In benchmark crash up over 100 degrees . And if i play a game 5min later crash only game
I must set in 220watt power. Then is ok.
Can any help me thanks
You need to undervolt it. All the latest Intel CPUs overheat out of the box. They're set to a very high voltage that causes over 100 degrees.
Install XTU and try to follow some of this guide to undervolt your 14900k.
What's your motherboard? Perhaps you can undervolt it there too.
My MSI Z790 A wifi Pro does not gave the CPU Load Line option
In bios u don't have a tweaker tab ?
@@TECHOSAURi just managed to find it when press ctrl + f but i see the CPU load lina calibration control from mode 1 to mode 8
Windows doesn't mean "all users". Many of us hardware enthusiasts actually use *Linux.*
If you're a proper linux "enthusiast", a simple google would have told you Intel XTU app is only for windows and not linux. This video already mentions so in its title, please look at the other video which shows you how to underclock it via BIOS settings
If you're a proper linux "enthusiast", a simple google would have told you Intel XTU app is only for windows and not linux. This video already mentions so in its title, please look at the other video which shows you how to underclock it via BIOS settings
@@RovelStars it did. I'm addressing the fact that he said "for all users" in a tutorial that only covers windows users.
I did everything the same as you, hit apply, then the pc crashed and restarted. When it came back on all the settings were back to what they were by default. I'm so annoyed by this entire process. I wish I never bought this computer
It's to be expected. You can't apply them if you haven't changed the LLC control in the BIOS (load line calibration setting, I mean).
Please tell me your motherboard so we can see how to do it. Only after setting it may you proceed in XTU.
For reference, I mean this part, which I changed it in my BIOS 9:05
My motherboard has 5 levels and by default, the auto is level 5 which gives the biggest voltage drop under load but runs the coolest. Since we undervolt the CPU, keeping it on the lowest level will not make it possible to work. We'll have to choose the middle level usually, which is a good balance for stability and thermals.
So if ur motherboard has 8 levels, choose 4
Let me know if u have some difficulty with it
My 14700kf can’t under-volt even your amount. Why is that?
Is the undervolting slider activated?
Computer restarted itself after the first "apply" Dx. I think my cpu is dying.
did you change anything in BIOS such as the Load Line Calibration level ? it's important when under volting to have at least a balanced current level the usual factory AUTO selection for LLC is the lowest and it has the biggest vdrop. since we undervolting, so it will not be stable, its crucial to set at least the moderate level for LLC found in voltages section in BIOS for VRM, for example, my motherboard has 5 levels and choosing level 3 is the best as in this case it won't get hot and still be stable, please tell me your motherboard type and whether if you have other settings applied in BIOS
@@TECHOSAUR I sent this in discord too if youd rather talk there. Ive got z7900-a d5 2-32gb ddr5 vengeance 6400mt/s slotted in a2 and b2 and a 14700kf. IM having much more issues than just trying to undervolt. Found your video in an attempt to possibly find a fix to my problem. ive reinstalled windows countless times and ran every test and scan known to man. some apps wont install most have trouble opening even if i do get them installed and i constantly get random BSODS if i try to do ANYTHING that puts a load on my computer. occt bsods. ixtu bsods. starting a game give me a backlit black screen. and this all started from discord not wanting to stay open. would randomly close and i got tired of it so figured it was time to upgrade some stuff and start fresh. I bought the z790-a the ddr5 ram and swapped the psu i had in there for one from a previous build.(its better) 750w(basic psu) to 850 G5 gold evga. i changed the load line calibration and
it actually made a difference. i was able to get into windows for the first time with xmp1 enabled. i just dont really know where to go from here. its how i stunbled upon your video in the first place. just looking for a miracle fix. lmao
Hi, I have a copied all the steps but keep blue screening when i benchmark or stress test
ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI II
32gb ram ddr5
i7-14700k
4080 gpu
And I’m on XMP ii
Load line number 2 in between 1-3
Plz help
do you have any AI features enabled in your BIOS? i know that ASUS has tons of them and they would interfere with manual changes
make sure to disable any AI auto option
if that didn't work, try to shift the voltage offset by 5
each CPU unit has its sweet spot and it can also depend on other BIOS settings you have
For Asus mobo it seems impossible to enable watchdog so no way to keep settings after a reboot.
I would be glad if anybody have a solution to this (probably intended) issue.
I'm not familiar with watchdog
What's that ?
@@TECHOSAUR Watchdog timers are used to monitor complex systems and maintain the reliability of a system. In XTU it is needed to detect a crash so to not apply the settings at reboot. Check at the bottom of the system tab of xtu. Problem is, it seems Asus disabled the loading of teh watchdog driver purposely. Why ? My guess is they don't want a software doing what their expensive mobos do, but for free. I dont' see any other explanation.
Anyway, XTU on Asus mobos won't reapply settings automatically at boot as watchdog driver isn't loaded. Shame ASUS...
@@davidg.1387 that sucks. I wanted to undervolt with xtu but I found out it can't be done with asus mobo... even though I have watchdog timer driver installed.
@@DarthCapybara Indeed. You still can do it but you will have to reapply your profile each time. I ended doing this in the bios as before.
Hi, Bro. I have an i7-13700K and an MSI board and it's much easier there and I get about -10°C. I still have the same POWER, I set unlimited. Nice work, but this is not something a normal person would come up with :-) How did you figure it out? :-)) 😀😀😀 Thx.
I do a lot of testing approximately a week of extensive trials and errors to find the best config at least for my CPU unit, motherboard and cooling setup
Every system could get a different result but I was just sharing my experience with mine and the process I followed exactly
I'm still using those configs and it's really much cooler now, I love Intel CPUs for their big headroom to under volt 👍
@@TECHOSAUR I also like the Intel i7-14700K. I'll rethink if it's worth replacing when I have an i7-13700K that's also pretty good. I'm using a cheap cooler, and the telots are about 70°C in games with undervolting. But a lot of people are badmouthing Intel... I also have and RYZEN 7800x3D and it's +- the same for gaming.
hello I have 14700k my problem is that there are constant stutters and tears while playing games can you help greetings from turkey
if u have rivatuner unistall and do not reinstall bro
Did you check the temperature as you play? Maybe it's thermal throttling shifting clocks up and down, and this may introduce stutters and unexpected performance
Hi I have a z790 aorus master how do I put these values in the bios thanks if you can help me
I don't have an Aorus board, if you can connect on discord and send screen shots, I hope to help better there
Server link: discord.com/invite/PXmJY6BP8b
Hi, i just bought my pc wth specs:
i7 14700K
Prime Z790-P Wifi
RTX 4070 Ti Super
DDR5 6000mhz 16x2
But when i try to test Cinebench R23 i just got Multicore 28000pts & Singlecore 2100pts, is this normal?
After Cinebench R23 test i check HWINFO and i got throttiling say "Yes" & so many 80 - 90c temps on core temperatures.
That’s terrible
in your video you say to disable undervolt protection, but the xtu programme won't open unless its enabled, literally pops up saying it won't open without it enabled. another thing this programme is pretty useless if you have to do these settings everytime because the watchdog feature isn't available to asus users anymore since january 2024.
It's strange that it never displayed for me the message to enable undervolt protection. I just tried it now with the latest version of XTU, and undervolt protection was off.
@@TECHOSAUR just tried it again, until i turn undervolt protection on it just gives me and error saying it can't open the programme while its off :(
What's ur motherboard?
Sadly, I followed this guide and my benchmark ran hotter, with slower P&E core max Frequency and lower points, along with power limit throttling. I'll check everything over again to make sure I didn't miss anything but I don't think I did. Edit, I get lower scores on Cinebench 2024 After downloading your profile I see there is a change in System Agent Voltage which seems to improve my scores a bit, Was that not in the video or did I just not see it? can anyone answer this for me please?
System memory agent frequency pertains to the memory, not the CPU core. It aids in tightening memory timings, which determine how tight the timings are that you can boot and stabilize. It helps with CPU uncore components
Import your settings and when I apply I get error in xtu performannce core 10 temp cutoff error performance core 10 ratio offset unknow
If u can upload a screenshot and link here
So I applied all settings but temps are still 100 Celsius peaking and in cinebench 80% stays throttled. Bios curved to middle line all exact steps u did and there is 0 improvement. I tested same score with default settings and just minimal undervolt
Got a 360 aio that was set to full speed in smart fan so its not a cooling problem. Got a z790 gigabyte
Edit: when setting back the calibration to auto in bios, and tested cinebench it was better. Never hit 100 max 98-99:)) but with much higher score and a little less power consumption but it crashes and i dunno what to do.
You probably need to undervolt more.
How much Vcore voltage offset did you change?
Of course, if you change load-line calibration from auto to a middle level without undervolting, you will get higher temperatures. Setting LLC to any level other than auto (which usually takes the lowest possible value) should be combined with undervolting to take advantage.
@@TECHOSAUR like video -165mv, how much more? I also have 5 levels of LLC but they are defined low high standard etc. And I made sure it's the middle one. But without it the system bricks so I guess it's important to have it on and I say I should undervolt even more? How much more? Assuming it's worse than default right now
@razvanilie6346 that's strange, did you monitor power consumption before and after? Check in hwinfo for some metrics before and after, it might not be booting with it
@@TECHOSAUR it gets applied as I see in hwmonitor the settings changed.
@razvanilie6346 Do you have any AI or auto multi-core enhancement settings applied in your Gigabyte BIOS? I'm not sure if they might interfere. It's weird that with lower voltage you are getting higher temperatures. For LLC, I know that Gigabyte has 8 levels. Did you choose high or extreme?
Hi, I tried these settings with Load Line Calibration 3 but either Benchmark crashes or Stress Test fails.
CPU: i7 14700kf
GPU: Zotac 4080 OC
Mobo: Asrock Nova z790
Memory: Corsair 64gb @ 6400
I moved Load Line Calibration to 2 and it's stable, but temps increase back to ~90c
What should I begin to calibrate to keep load line @ 3 and improve stability?
You could lower clock ratios or increase voltage, since increasing load line calibration to a higher level will make it much hotter, and it's obviously not worth it, making the whole process pointless.
If you lower clocks even by one ratio, you will get so much headroom for lowering voltages, which will all reflect in lower temps.
It's only ideal to use the balanced LLC to get good stability with reasonable thermals
Mine applies, then 2 secs after freezes then reboots into a boot error
Did u change any bios option?
Mein pc hat sich erstmal verabschiedet nach diesen Einstellungen in einem Blue Screen..
Ganz toll!
Bitte aufpassen bevor ihr es macht.
Einfach mit dem Intel Programm das zu machen funktioniert nicht!
Haben Sie die Einstellung der Lastlinienkalibrierung im BIOS geändert? Es ist wichtig, diese von „Auto“ auf eine Stufe zu ändern, die eine stabilere Spannung liefert, um die Systemstabilität zu gewährleisten. Ein unzureichend eingestellter Spannungsabfall kann zu einem BSOD führen, besonders unter starker Belastung. Dies könnte die Ursache für die temporären BSODs sein, die Sie erleben
Bitte teilen Sie mir das Modell Ihres Motherboards mit, damit ich Ihnen weiterhelfen kann
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MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI
@@luckyluck1611 Sie müssen ins BIOS gehen und die Option zur Lastlinienkalibrierung auf Modus 5 einstellen, da Ihr Motherboard 8 Auswahlmöglichkeiten hat. Dadurch wird die Spannung stabilisiert und eine Unterspannung ermöglicht. Andernfalls kann Ihr System bei jedem Unterspannungsversuch neu starten oder instabil werden.
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@@TECHOSAUR Danke sehr😇
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Trotzdem hatte ich ein herunterfahren des Rechners.
Also hat nichts gebracht in meinem Fall.
Schafe
Thanks for the video! I have a a 14700kf, 32gb 6000mhz and a asrock z790 pro rs, I did the the tutorial but i keep getting a blue screen, do you know how can I fix it?
Try adjusting the load line calibration level. You can find that setting in your motherboard BIOS menu. You need to set the middle level, just like I did. For example, mine has five levels, and for me, the sweet spot is level three, where I get a minimum temperature increase but good stability, it's very crucial step to maintain voltage since ar are undervolting, auto setting is usually the lowest
@@TECHOSAUR it is level 3, sometimes it won’t crash immediately, but if I open any game/app it will give me a blue screen or automatically restart the pc
@@TECHOSAUR Would it be possible to actually answer this question? I'm having literally the exact same issue cant figure it out at all. I open XTU, re-apply the settings again and again, same result. Play a game and maybe it works for a little while, 20-30min MAX? Screen freezes, PC dies and breaks to pieces it instantly just goes black, PC makes a "click" noise indicating power switching off, then loads into the BIOS on a page that says load default settings and boot/or reboot. 14700KF, 360mm Kraken Elite AIO, Aorus z790 Pro X, RTX 4070ti Super, 6600DDR5, 990 Pro SSD, Win10 Home, Full Specs. I just want to keep my CPU from averaging 38-45 degrees idle on the desktop, and while under non intensive normal load(Playing video games) averaging 60-70 on any game and some things making it go as high as 85-89 which is absolutely outrageously unnecessary. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you for ur time.
I apply all steps and giving me blue screen. after that rebooting with optimized default.
Edit: I have z790 aero g motherboard
Pair with:
64gb 6000mhz trident Z
360 aio Nzxt kraken rgb
Msi gaming z trio 3060ti
Okay did you change the load line calibration level ? It shouldn't be on auto with this config
Try to select the middle level found in ur motherboard
If that didn't work try to reduce the voltage offset by -5
Keep doing that until it's stable or you can check whether you need to reduce clock ratios, but I would suggest you first to try the load line Calibration middle level
I tried -5 and medium in calibration i get same blue screen
@@karlfrancisco8981 do you get BSOD immediately or after running a specific workload ?
perhaps lowering the AVX2 ratio could help if its an AVX specific
All running. But in my case it did not reaching max pcore 5.8ghz
Hello my brother, thank you for video! So, i have the same processor that you have i7-14700k, but because of i dont understand anything in PC bedore, i bought motherboard MSI MAG B760M MORTAR MAX WIFI. And i cant off the undervolt protection. I saw that you've pinned some guides, but i cant understand anything in that... Sorry, that im taking time from you
I wish my processor was as stable as yours, but I don't know what to do yet. in my stress tests, it beats at 100 Celsius in a couple of seconds. Although my cooling system is three-section at 300 tdp
But in BIOS do u have voltage offset ? U don't need to explicitly under volt in XTU, U can do it in ur MSI bios too, there should be voltage settings somewhere
my game started crashing after this oc :( 14700kf, 4080super, asus z690 prime d4 wi fi
What did you set ?
@@TECHOSAUR i copied your XTU settings in my XTU. Im playing cs2. it never crashed, but it crashed 2times after i used your XTU settings. by the way - temp improved alot, like -10c.
Hello, what bios i should get for asus b760-g d4 wifi, is z690 ok?
You shouldn't install a different chipset BIOS than the one made for yours. You can visit your motherboard's suppoet page and download the latest version uploaded, which should be the optimal one
Can you please do this for 13700k .
I wish I could, but I have limited access to components. Trust me, though, the 14700k is very similar to the 13700k, except for core numbers of efficiency from 8 to 12. Also, higher clock potential on the 14700k. Aside from that, if you follow this guide, I think it will help with under volting the 13700k as well. If you are having a problem, please let me know. I can try to help!
Cinebench is crashing even on -0.040 offset, is there anything I can do to get better undervolting? mobo is asus z790-Plus
Check to see if you have any AI features enabled in the BIOS and deactivate all of them, as they will interfere with any manual changes you make.
That likely explains why even small decrements aren't stable.
Also, make sure to set the load line calibration level to level 4 on your Asus board. There are 8 levels, so choose the middle one.
Thank you I'll try it out ! subbed@@TECHOSAUR
Hello. I can't apply the flag on Restore after reboot (3.05) and unfortunately trying to update the drivers nothing has changed. I have an Asus Z790-E Gaming WiFi II and I9-14900K, how can I solve the problem, have you found a solution?
Maybe you need to apply the settings first, then check that window to see if that option is available. Or, try reinstalling XTU. It's also possible that your Windows account isn't an administrator account, which could prevent XTU from applying the settings in the Windows scheduler
@@TECHOSAUR Hello, I have already tried all of the above and the problem remains. I also reinstalled XTU as an administrator and forced it to always boot as an administrator, it doesn't let me put the FLAG on that entry. It's a problem that a lot of people have with both Asus and MSI