Sewing Machine Going Too Fast? The Best Ways to Slow Your Industrial Sewing Machine.
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- If your industrial sewing machine is going too fast and you want to know the best ways to slow it down and get the kind of control that makes sewing fun and easy then this is your video. When your sewing machine sews too fast it can make sewing your project stressful and difficult. I show the easiest and most effective ways to tame your unruly machine and make it sew like a dream smooth as butter.
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Be sure to check in the description for links to the items that I recommend for slowing your ISM. Thank you for watching my video, I hope that you found it helpful.
The links for the pulley and speed reducer are the same. 😉
Corrected. Thanks for the assistance. 😀👍
great vid. one other option for slowing a clutch motor slightly: extend the motor arm, and swap the connection at the foot plate to the opposite side to accommodate the longer arm. you basically extend the lever which gives finer control of movement.
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I bought an old Adler-199 in December, it‘s from the 50s, and it was uncontrollable 😱
The servo is a real game changer. It deals easily with denim, many layers, as I turn old jeans into new bags 😍
The worst thing about the clutch motor was the „after stitching“ - you stop the pedal, and it does a couple more stitches until it actually comes to halt, so you have to get used to releasing the pedal five to eight stitches before you want to stop sewing. Which is guesswork. Drove me nuts.
I also enjoy the silence of the servo. No longer having the feeling to be inside a container ship, more time to listen to podcasts, while sewing.
Great information, as usual!
We use a Consew for aircrew flight uniform repairs and we call it the Death Machine. Will look into a servo for those fine precision patches.
Thank you for your smooth review
I followed your advice and changed out the clutch to the servo from your Amazon link and bought the smaller pulley too. It was an easy install, needed to get new belt at Napa Auto parts, and my Seiko LSW-8BL (Craigslist find) has never been better. Time to reupholster my pontoon boat seats, wish me luck!!
I wish you the best of Luck. 🍀
Great video! Very informative
Hey you should do a sewing room shop tour. Just getting started in sewing but not too sure how to layout a room for most efficiency
Thanks for video, contains lots of useful information.
Thanks
Hey Alex, great video. One thing I did to my industrial to assist at slow speed and take off, was to extend the arm on the motor that the pedal attaches to. I added about 3” here, giving my pedal more travel, really helped me learn how to ease into the pedal for take off. I added this on a servo motor with a 45mm pulley. As a beginner it was very helpful.
Nice solution.
Can you send me a picture of your setup ?
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Hello sir im also a sewer like you from the philipines
Super. Thanks for video.
Welcome 😊
Imagine being in a shop back in the days when things were made here......and having 100 ladies/guys working on garments at one time. In the 50’s my mom worked for a company that later made well known garments for an outdoor company. She said it was loud and you had to work fast or else your boss would pull you off your machine. My mom worked there for 5 years....her sister in law worked for the company form the 50’s until the 90’s.
I guess if you sew everyday for a living, a speed reducer is less necessary, but I sure like my servo paired with my 45mm pulley!
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Love my servo but need to change out the pulley for some more control.
Thanks 👍
No problem 👍
Another great video! I have both speed reducer and servo on my Juki Lu-563 and love it!
Why don't you give us a tour of your shop? Showing of your machine and telling us what you do. Could be very interesting! Keep coming good stuff 👍
'Could be interesting' but what if it is not? 😅😰 Thanks for sharing your setup and I am glad to hear it is working out well.
@@AlexanderDyer there's only on way to know : doing a shop tour video !
Come on ! 😉
Thanks for this. People get hung up on speed, I think when most of us are not always needing that.
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The Reliable SM 6000 Brushless motor (maybe same as Sailrite Workhorse) has a different shaft size. I had ordered 2 that were 1/2 shaft and it appears to be a bit loose the 4L vs the 3L belt profile seems closest. I'm still on the hunt for a smaller pulley.
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GREAT!!!!! I want a servo motor now for my Singer S211G156.
You will like it.
Hi Alex, any videos on using Direct Drive motors? Can I fit one on Pfaff 332 (non industrial)?
Thank you for the information. I’m using the same machine and it is like a Ferrari - 0 to 60 in 2 seconds.
Servo Motor.
What a beautiful machine. This has been an ongoing problem for me, but it's just too hard to justify the expense for either of my two old Singers, which I just kind of deal with it. It often comes down to hand-wheeling around sharp turns, or else just barely touching the pedal-as it starts to make that 'motor is about to burn up' sound.
One has to wonder what manufacturers were thinking when they made consumer-grade sewing machines that could run the length of a pillowcase in four seconds. Maybe it was just a marketing thing, like, for the belief that more speed/power is always better.
There is definitely some serious marketing going on in the sewing machine industry. I wonder how many decorative stitches does a person really need or even use?
Does anyone have any experience with Direct Drive motors. Do they give you the same control as a servo motor
Thank you for this video. I switched from a clutch to servo motor recently and am very happy with the change. My industrial sews much slower and I have much more control. I haven’t seen anyone mention where to source a replacement belt. My old belt no longer fit the servo motor with 45mm pulley. I found a belt from an auto parts store to fit however it’s a little noisy with a rubbing sound. The belt is properly installed so I wonder if it’s not correctly seated on the hand wheel or pulley. The machine still sews a beautiful seam and has plenty of power when I want it. Is there a different belt I should consider?
I use the auto parts house too and I just get the standard belts and yes sometimes they are a bit squeeky creeky. After I use them for a bit they do seem to quiet down. Also there is an equipment belt available at the parts house that is fabric covered and will not make that sound, it is a bit more expensive and they typically have to be ordered in. Thanks
I bought an industrial medium to heavy weight walking foot machine , I'm trying to teach myself to use it. after struggling some ,I replaced the motor with a servo motor and ...wow what a difference! I have made a few items in canvas ( one being a padded shooting jacket). I would like to know what the lightest and heaviest weight fabric is advisable to use on this type of machine please? Thank you for all your advice .
I think this video may help you determine that. You can always try heavier and see but if you are wanting light shirting and the like you might be better served by picking up a nice used home machine for those kind of projects czcams.com/video/EJlrjWJKdTE/video.html
Hey, I have this same machine. I really appreciate your videos! I am having a hard time finding feet that will work on this machine. I have tried the "old style" Bernina feet and they don't work. Any ideas or tips on where to find a zipper foot that will work on this machine?
First, Bernina arguably makes the best machines out there… and with that comes difficulties finding old parts, there are many collectors of these old machines! The “old style” feet will most likely only bring you to their domestic machines. I would try to find someone whom services specifically Bernina’s in your area, they would know more about where to look for sourcing!
it amazes me people don't sew their fingers together with the clutch motor set up
hi i just a servo motor from the link you provided i just want to know when i install it does the rubber cushion go against the machine or does the bracket go first
The motor mounts to the bottom of the table like this czcams.com/video/sThiub95oi4/video.html
Mr. Dyer Thnk you for bringing such good knowlege with your videos,Ineed to ask you a question I bougth a used CONSEW model 290 RTC ,i put a new servo motor and works great My only Dilema is that i cannot use it for tick leather ,Do you know if any thing that i can do to sew thick leather like 8 to 9 Oz .i been using Needles size 110\18 Made by Organ Needles DB XF2 16X257LR 1738LR ,I really like this machine.Thank in advance for your guidance and opinion Leonel from Florida.
You got everything right except the machine. Your machine is a good machine. It is good for curtains and garments and stuff like that. For leather and upholstery these are the go to. czcams.com/video/sBavkfataiM/video.html
Thanks for the information and your other informative videos. Questions about servo motors. Does the slower speed change the machine's lubrication for old wet sumo machine's like an old Singer 241-12? Are there solutions for that as well? I love the old machine, but sometimes it is too fast for delicate work and I have to use a different machine. Thanks in advance for your opinion and solutions.
Yes, those pumps require RPMs to be effective. Occasionally running your automatic lube machine at high RPM will help. Also slow sewing puts a low demand on your machines lubrication needs.
@@AlexanderDyer thanks for your reply and sharing of knowledge. Sorry I made you answer twice. I sent question before scrolled completely down, and I saw it was already asked and answered. I always enjoy your videos so thanks you.
Hey Alexander, Will increasing the length of the arm on the servo motor (that connects to the foot pedal) help to reduce the speed? I've already installed a 45mm pulley but am still finding my pedal too sensitive (Juki DU-1181N)... Thanks!
I have heard of this but not sure of the effectiveness.
Have you heard of a zero max gearbox? I have one on my rotary welding positioner. It’s like a variable reducer, 0-400rpm on a 1725rpm motor. Probably too slow for most people, but would allow the servo to run in a better torque range I think
Sounds interesting. Got a Link?
@@AlexanderDyer great video, as always
Newb question, could you just have one pedal unaltered and one with a screw or some kind of stopper where the pedal only goes down fraction to a set rpm?
I have not seen that but maybe you got something there. 👍
Quick question. How do you set the actual servo motor on the lower/ lowest setting? I've one on my machine but have not adjusted since purchase and would love to be slower..thanks!
This one has a dial labeled with RPMs. Watch here czcams.com/video/lavkvsU5ltk/video.html
@@AlexanderDyer thank you!
Small shaft for slow, big shaft for fast. Right?
I have a Singer 491 and the manual states max 5,500spm thats 91stitches a second! 😰So trying to do like 5 or 6 in a second is very tricky. Servo might be a good option.
This is the way.
Can you speak to minimum stitch speed with regards to proper oiling function, please? Is there a minimum spm for the oil pump to work properly...generally speaking, of course. Thank you for all you do to teach all of us! Best, Andrew @BranchAndFoundry
Yes, those pumps require increased RPMs to be effective. Occasionally running your automatic lube machine at high RPM will help. Also slow sewing puts a low demand on your machines lubrication needs.
@@AlexanderDyer Solid info, thank you sir!
hi i checked out the link for the servo motor but it's currently out of stock do you have any idea when it would be back in stock do i buy the smaller belt also or is that for the speed reducer
I like this one too. amzn.to/3a1lVS6
You may or may not need a new belt. If I need a new belt I get it at my local auto part store.
@@AlexanderDyer thank you i also have another question on the machine itself actually 2 questions first one is it normal for me to be able to move the needle to the left or right with my hand 2nd one is do you have any idea where i can get my hands on the cams for this machine i have the large cam box
When my guys are learning to sew, we put a thick piece of foam behind (under) the pedal. Personally I did not like the servo motor, it definitely feels different and less power too. Feels like there's sand in my machine... Weird.
I have used some pretty crappy servo motors too. Sounds like you are into production and clutch motors are better suited for that. Thanks for the comments.
@@AlexanderDyer I really appreciate your videos and thanks for the "sewing machine porn" 😂
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What are your settings on your servo motor to be able to slow slower.
I have mine set about halfway and the control on this motor is very easy to achieve by foot.
Q: I work on a Juki 1584, we’re can I find general maintenance info for it?
Which Juki?
@@AlexanderDyer Sorry 1508nh
There are manuals for download in the description here czcams.com/video/SWvi1wYfc9A/video.html
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks, I did not have that manual.
I have have just picked up a Brother DB2 B714-3 for $100 AU . Has hardly any marks on it and working very well but too fast for a newbie . I put a 40mm pulley on to slow it down and it is still very hard to control, with any accuracy. Turning by hand is now almost impossible . I think I have probably played around with too many nuts and bolts , possibly the brake adjustment. It turns easily with the belt off . Also the reverse lever is jumping up and down and it won't go in reverse. Anyone with some spare time for your thoughts would be really appreciated. cheers from Australia.
I need to apologize to any one who was trying to figure out what was going on with the reverse issue. I left out an important fact and that was I had replaced the plate and feed dogs with a heavy duty set and , as I have worked out, they were binding. I have had to file the plate to allow the feed dogs to not bind. Luckily I have a Swiss army knife that was perfect for this job. . Also , putting my foot on the pedal , very lightly, allowed the wheel to turn freely. Cheers
Motors have brakes that apply when you release the go pedal. By barely touching the pedal you can release the brake, be careful, too far and the motor starts to go but there is a spot in there when you depress the pedal that releases the brake without starting the motor and you can then easily turn by hand.
The reverse lever requires adjustment, try to find a manual for the procedure.
@@AlexanderDyer Thanks for the reply Alexander.
Unfortunately the pulley you reccomend will not fit on my Consew 206RB-5, Or i should say it fits but it will not stay in place because my servos shaft has a flat side which requires the pulley to have a tapped out hole for an allen screw. Do you kmow of any other pulleys that are tapped out with an alan screw that you can reccomend, Also i hear a digital "brushless" motor will give you even more slow speed control and torque, Have you ever tried one of these types of motors ?
I have tried those types, a few of them. Some are OK and others are not worth the shipping to send them. I have not tried any of them that I like as well as that which I recommend.
@@AlexanderDyer Are you talking about the pulley ?
No, sorry. The brushless motors.
@@AlexanderDyer Ok, well .i wouldn't reccomend that particular pulley since its not going to fit every servo motor shaft configuration, I purchased one as per your suggestion and unfortunately its not going to work for me.
I am sorry riverwindflutes. I have no way to know what servo exists on your sewing machine setup. I see many pre-packaged setups with those brushless motors. As I mentioned before I am not the biggest fan of those and I don't wish to talk trash on my channel so I say very little about it. You can see the exact motor that I recommend. They work as expected. I have made my pulley recommendation based upon my motor recommendation and no pulley will fit every motor. Again I am sorry for your predicament. I wonder if you would be happier with the motor I recommend, I know I am. Thank you for all the support.
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Do you have any great ideas on the subject of adding a light to a machine?
Yeah, It is so easy with this light. It is magnetic so installation is just plug it in and stick it on wherever you want it. 👍 amzn.to/3aACbcl
Not necessarily. Change the pulley to a smaller one. It’s a lot cheaper than buying a new motor. And don’t buy the pulley from that place. Poor quality.
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One of t he things I really hate about CZcams is those who give incomplete or erroneous advice. Sir, if you are going to hand out advice to viewers then you should make them aware of potential pitfalls and options that you know of regarding that advice. Yes, your video gives some initial advice. These recommendations are however incomplete and your viewers should be aware of this.
I have a Titan TN650 BL industrial machine so yes, I too can speak from experience. Admittedly folks, you can slow your servo motor by adjusting the speed down to a lower setting. However, you should be aware that by doing so you will lose the power or torque that makes the machine able to penetrate heavier materials like denim, vinyl, and leather which is probably why you purchased an industrial machine to begin with. Another thing that may happen if you continually run at lower speeds is your motor may overheat as the built in fan will not cool it properly and shorten the motors life expectancy.
That brings us to lowering the belt drive ratio which can be done with the smaller belt sheeve as mentioned briefly here. Available for Canadian customers at Https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06ZZ42TGY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you install one of these sheeves, the motor will turn faster than when the standard sheeve is used by reducing the drive ratio and give you back much of your torque and lowers the possibility of overheating as the motor spins faster for any given machine speed. You will however need to do a couple of additional things before this will work for you.
Your existing drive belt will probably be too long now and you will have to find a suitable shorter belt. The other method if you want to use your original belt is to detach the motor from the machine and use washers to shim it down to give you a longer shaft to shaft dimension. This will allow you to use your existing belt. Dependent on your machines maker, you may also have to purchase longer mounting bolts to accommodate the spacers.
The other common method of reducing your machine drive speed is to purchase and mount a speed reducer. These units can be hard to obtain, are fairly pricey, and will require the use of a second belt. You will also in all likelihood have to drill additional holes in you machines table top and relocate your motor to align the secondary belt. If you are not confident in your abilities making modifications like this you may want to engage the services of a knowledgeable person to do this for you. If you fail to get the components in the right location it will create problems with your machine and may require you to elongate the holes to give you good belt alignment. In severe cases, you may have to replace the table with a new one as there may be interference with where the new mounting holes must go and the original maker’s holes.
A third method of regaining speed control is to use a small gear reduction box. My experience with the these is they are gawd awful expensive, hard to get, frequently noisy, require additional maintenance, and still require you to modify the mounting position of your servo motor. There is also one servo motor manufacturer that is making a motor that mounts directly to your machines fly wheel and eliminates belts altogether. I have no experience with these but they should work although I imagine they are fairly expensive.
In any event, when you make changes to your belt drive system you will have to adjust your motor on its bracket to tension your belt. When you do so, only tighten the belt up enough to drive the machine without any slippage and no more. If you overtighten your belt drive it will overload your motors bearings and cause premature failure.
Another modification that can be done to give you better speed control is to extend the arm on the servo motor that ties into the foot control. When you lengthen this arm, it gives you a larger movement in relation to the motor and gives you more stroke on the foot control thereby improving your ability to control your speed accurately.
It should also be noted that if you have a self-oiling machine like many of the newer machines, it is a good idea to disconnect your upper thread and remove your bobbin every hour or so and run your machine at full speed for a minute or two before re-threading and sewing again. If you are lazy like I am, keep a piece of scrap material handy and run some straight stitches at full speed for a bit. That way you don't have to re-spool your machine. The reason for this is many machines, when continually run slow, will not oil properly causing excess wear and tear on its lubricated components. By running it at full speed on occasion you get oil to everywhere it is required.
I also have a 217. Very smooth!!