Good Acting vs GREAT Acting
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- What differentiates good acting from acting that is great? Ultimately, this is a subjective question that deals more with taste than a concrete definition of what makes an actor good or bad. While no truly objective standards to judge a performance exist, there are specific factors that can be considered in order to more persuasively frame a conversation about why some actors move us while others don’t. In this video, we’ll look at why certain performances make you feel emotionally moved while others feel…well…stilted.
//CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
03:04 Aiming For a Result
04:22 Big vs Small Performances
05:23 Vulnerability, Directing, and Writing
07:42 Making Interesting Choices
08:39 Physicality and Accents
10:16 Listening
11:08 Filmmaking as a Collaboration
//SOURCES:
INTERVIEWS - The Hollywood Reporter Actors Roundtable (2010, 2018, 2019, 2020), Variety Actors on Actors - Annette Benning and Naomie Harris, THR Actress Roundtable (2014, 2021), The Dan Patrick Show - Adam Sandler, Actors on Actors - Nicholas Hoult and Paul Mescal, Riz Ahmed and Steven Yeun, Kirsten Dunst and Jamie Dornan, Sam Rockwell and Alsion Janney, Hugh Jackman and Willem Dafoe, Amy Adams and Nicole Kidman, Paul Mescal and Joe Alwyn, Hugh Grant and Colin Farrell, Benedict Cumberbatch and Claire Foye, Timothėe Chalamet and Emma Stone, Kate Winslet and Saoirse Ronan, Kristen Stewart and Nicole Kidman, Brad Pitt and Adam Sandler, Charlie Rose - Paul Newman, DGA Nominees for Feature Film (2018), Build Series Viola Davis, Willem Dafoe Interview with Sam Jones, Charlie Rose - Actors Studio Interview, THR Directors Roundtable (2011), THR Emmy Actress Roundtable (2016), Charlie Rose - Paul Thomas Anderson (2000), Viola Davis BAFTA Guru, Robert Pattinson BAFTA Guru, SAG-AFTRA Career Retrospective - Rachel Weisz, Mark Mylod Succession Scene Breakdown, PTA Interview The Los Angeles Times, Michael Parkinson Interview - Robert DeNiro, Todd Phillips Joker Scene Breakdown, Academy Conversations - Natalie Portman, Idriss Elba Kate Winslet Interview, Claire Foye Q&A “Women Talking,” SAG-AFTRA Leading Female Actor Interview, Vicky Krieps SAG-AFTRA Interview, Jaoquin Phoenix and Riz Ahmed Interview, THR Drama Actors Roundtable (2023)
FILMS/TV SHOWS - Moonlight, Tár, The Lobster, A Woman Under the Influence, Corsage, I, Tonya, Punch Drunk Love, Call Me By Your Name, Never Rarely Sometimes Always, The Asassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Interstellar, American Beauty, Requiem for a Dream, Empire of Light, Nights of Cabiria, Aftersun, Little Women, Tokyo Story, Atonement, Casablanca, L’Avventura, Blue Valentine, Normal People, The Florida Project, The Master, Cool Hand Luke, Lady Bird, Fences, Nightcrawler, Get Out, The Banshees of Inisherin, Fleabag, The Favourite, No Country For Old Men, The Sound of Metal, The Worst Person in the World, Into the Wild, Beef, The Power of the Dog, Bonnie and Clyde, The Truman Show, Phantom Thread, The Lighthouse, American Psycho, Succession, Taxi Driver, Joker, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, Jackie, Being the Ricardos, The Big Lebowski, Till, Shame, Sicario, Wanda, Paris, Texas, In the Mood for Love, Cold War, Marie Antionette
//MUSIC:
Sunn Forest by ELPHNT
The Life and Death of a Certain K. Zabriskie, Patriarch by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under a CC BY 4.0 license.
Source: chriszabriskie.com/vendaface/
Artist: chraiszabriskie.com/
What True Self, Feels Bogus, Lets Watch Jason X by Chris Zabriskie is licensed under a CC BY 4.0 license.
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Artist: chraiszabriskie.com/
Sunrise in Paris by Dan Henig
#videoessay #acting #actors - Krátké a kreslené filmy
takeaway: watch actors on actors
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but that's not a bad takeaway to have! If you're interested in acting, it's definitely a great resource where you can find actors discussing their processes.
Lies again? Great Performance Google Play
or actors roundtable
1. Be vulnerable
2. Listen to your co-actor
3. Focus on intention
4. Little change in walks , gestures
5. Change of tone like exaggerating or elongating words .
Thats what i learned 😅...
I tried shooting my first short film with actors last week and it all fell apart pretty quick. We still had fun, but I've been scrambling to prepare better for our second try and this video is a LIFE SAVER. So insightful and eye opening. This channel is a gem.
Thanks! I’ve actually found Judith Weston’s book Directing Actors to be a great resource for understanding the actor/director relationship. If you’re interested, I highly recommend checking it out!
@@fromtheframe thank you!!
Let me know if you ever need any actors for any upcoming projects! I'd love to contribute what I know!🙋♂️
Not aiming for a result but having prescribed dialogue and actions is the actor’s paradox!
This is a great video! It reminded me of what I learned at theatre school as I tried to figure out how acting even works 😂 it’s simultaneously so simple and complex, nebulous yet tangible.
Yes, when I first started learning about it I felt the exact same way! Ultimately everyone's approach is very different, but there’s definitely more nuance to the concept of actors just being bad or good, which is why I wanted to make this video in the first place. Thanks for watching!
*The video thumbnail image is completely inconsistent with what is written on the video thumbnail and in the video title itself. Especially having great actors participating in the meeting.*
As an actor I appreciate this video very much. Not about how much you can cry on command but how you let go and whatever prep you’ve done for the scene. What the actor let’s come naturally bubble to the surface is what (I think) makes a great actor from a good one. Not forcing. Once you force you’re telling and not showing the story of the character. Once you “have to do this” you’re not trying to show the character breath and react within the scene. Loved the video!
High praise then coming from you! Really happy that you appreciated the video, and glad we could take the time to acknowledge the value that great acting (however one wants to define that) adds to the collaborative effort of the filmmaking process.
I think eyes play a major role in a great performance. Our eyes tell us so much about how we're feeling, so its a great way for us to truly feel a character's emotion when done right.
A great actor who does this I think is Daniel Kaluuya.
Couldn't agree more, Kaluuya is a fantastic actor!
The comments at the 3:05 mark are huge. So many actors in class aim for the emotional goal. But playing the role like that can be a forced trap. Well done!
Yes! When topics relating to acting are brought up I feel this is often overlooked and yet, it is such an essential part of an actor’s work on a role.
I don't really get it in the example that actress gave though. Was her performance better because her interpretation of the scene was foiled or did she learn to play the scene without her freaking out?
She’s initially saying she played the scene with the result in mind and it was only once she gave up playing it that way (at the result) that the scene got better. I think this is the thing that really tripped me up when learning about acting - how can you be both rehearsed technically (i.e., hit your marks, know where the light is, remember your lines, etc.) while simultaneously having to remain spontaneous and in the moment? That’s the narrow line actors have to walk and great ones make it look almost effortless.
By the way, Amy Adams is a phenomenal actor and I don’t want to insinuate that she’s not. I think she’s merely pointing out the danger in having everything pre-planned out, and then not wanting to deviate from those plans on the day. It’s the same reason Greta Gerwig says she doesn’t like to give the directions “faster” or “slower” - you’re giving the actors a result, which could lead to aiming for that result as opposed to focusing on an actable objective (although there are some great directors who use this type of direction and it totally works for them - there’s definitely a lot of nuance here).
This was incredible. Paul Mescal in Aftersun is a performance that will stay with me for the rest of my life.
That movie literally devastated me - the final scene and Mescal’s performance. It snuck up and felt like an absolute gut punch. I really hope to see Charlotte Wells and Mescal work together in the future.
This was very good - it was interesting to hear actors discussing how they play off the other actors in a scene, using those cues to inform their own choices. I also found it interesting to hear them speak to making 'lemonade out of lemons', when the writing (or even the direction) conflicts with, or isn't up to, the actor's abilities or intent. Well-done. :)
Thank you so much!
I think those conversations just demonstrate why it can be important for both screenwriters and directors to be familiar with the language of actors, what is actually actable versus what is not, and the various processes/methods actors may use when preparing for a role. Taking acting classes, even for non-actors, can definitely be helpful for this.
This is why people like brando and de niro are the best. They do this almost effortlessly.
Marlon Brandon would just face palm all of this lol
Yep and not to mention Brando invented a new form of acting Hes the goat
I have no idea how Adam Sandler went from doing all those adolescent level films to giving that absolutely incredible performance in Uncut Gem. Not sure of the title but you know which film I'm talking about.
I had these same thoughts too! A lot of people assume that Sandler started out in comedy but I don’t think many realize (I certainly didn’t before making this video, lol) that he actually went to NYU and studied at The Lee Strasberg Institute. I’m sure having a successful stand-up career (which in and of itself takes a lot of skill) and being cast on SNL lent itself to Sandler being given certain roles, but films like Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems prove he can do both, which is no easy feat.
@@fromtheframe I was unaware (until now) that AS studied acting act all , let alone at The Lee Strasberg school. His portrayal of this Jewish businessman contains so many subtleties and nuances that makes me wonder how he stayed in character. Seemingly simple lines such as when he was showing watches to (whats his name from the Celtics) "That's a small watch for such a big man"are infused with such precision and truth to the character. Or when he's at the party and he's trying to convince his wife not to go through with the divorce he says" Look at my eyes so you can see how I feel (or something like that). The look on his face . Where did he dredge that up from? All this despite being clipped from SNL .
This is cool, I feel like it really focuses on the being convincing part of acting and doesnt have mich to say about the charisma required. Thats so hard to capture in talk (and actors cant say it about themselves) but some people you just want to watch. They entrance you.
That’s certainly an aspect I hadn’t thought about. Thanks for the insightful comment!
Great video. Love the montage of the crying section.
I often hear about how listening is a bit part of acting and it is certainly true. For past few years I have paid more attention what characters do during conversation scenes when they are not the one talking and in many films, they often act like they are waiting for their turn to say the lines instead of being an active listener which takes me out. It breaks the immersion.
There is a big emphasis on being present and in the moment and knowing the intention rather than focusing on the result, I do wonder about the other side of this process which you didn't mention. The thoroughly rehearsed performances.
Like how Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy rehearsed for months to get the lines and mannerisms perfect to make it sound as natural as possible and when they had to finally shoot, it was rather quick due to that focus on rehearsal which I assume is more result oriented during the actual shoot.
Again. Fantastic video! Keep doing what you're doing :D
That’s an incredibly interesting point about Julie Delpy and Ethan Hawke - it just shows how diverse directors can be in their approach to rehearsals. Yargos Lanthimos definitely comes to mind as a director who has a very unorthodox rehearsal process for his actors.
I actually find rehearsal to be one of the more interesting aspects of prepping for a film, and it is definitely something I could spend a whole second video dissecting. It’s fascinating just how different actors’ processes are, from those who love an extensive rehearsal period before filming to those who refuse to rehearse at all (and what happens when they have to work together). I know Riz Ahmed has discussed how he prefers time to prep and rehearse, but Darius Marder didn’t want the actors rehearsing in the traditional sense for The Sound of Metal (obviously there was still extensive prep for those roles). Seeing how an actor takes that challenge on is quite intriguing.
Thanks again for taking the time to write out such a thoughtful comment, it means a lot!
I'd love a companion video on this topic. It would be very interesting to hear the other side of this since so many projects follow that method too. All Sorkin scripts also involve heavy rehearsals before the actual shoot.
I appreciate your detailed response
You probably know better than me, but I would imagine that that much rehearsal of every little line and mannerism [from the Ethan and Juile example] likely lends itself to the same kind of result you'll find in a Kubrik or Fincher film...such that the actors come to know the lines so inherently that it gives their delivery of them all the more freedom to come out naturally. In other words, instead of trying to remember their lines, they know the lines so well that they can be a bit more present...I'm guessing maybe
A pleasure to see Sam Rockwell, one of the most underrated actor ever existed. 09:17
Had to include Sam Rockwell in conversation with the brilliant Allison Janney, discussing Francis McDormand no less. A true trifecta of greatness!
Great video, keep up the good work mate.
I feel you forgot one KEY aspect to it… failure. The greatest actors have fallen completely flat on their faces, but have been able to stand up and move on while understanding what they have learned. Actors are made great actors, they are not just born that way. Through failure the greatest of us peaks through the other side by being a completely malleable human, with a controlled ego.
This is actually such a good point! A big part of success is the ability to learn from your failures. While it is true that certain people can be great actors with little to no training - maybe they have an easier time expressing their emotions, accessing their imaginations, following their impulses, etc. - assuming that all actors are born talented negates the amount of time and effort they had to put in to become great. Acting, like many other skills, is something that can be learned, but a lot of people take for granted the amount of work that may be needed to succeed (and a big part of success is the ability to learn from your failures). Thanks for the insightful comment!
I really enjoy your videos. I always feel contemplative afterwards.
Thanks! I'm glad you find them engaging!
When I think great acting, I think of Will Smith's "why don't he want me, man?" monologue in Fresh Prince, and how when he collapsed into Uncle Phil's arms, Avery whispered in his ear "now that's fucking acting!"
Then his real self came out with physical violence on national T.V. W.S. is classless.
Really well put together, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have this 'nothing is funny to me' thing going on and you're cramping my style
Another great video!!!
Still my favourite channel about movies. ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much. It means so much to get the continued support!!!
So many great insights on this one!!
Glad you think so!
*A Good Actor = A Good Liar*
*A Great Actor = A Liar who becomes the Lie*
Great video. Enjoyed thoroughly.
This video was amazing. Thankyou.
Thanks!
Brillante! realmente son los responsables de hacernos sentir un mar de emociones y comprender un universo a parte.
I love this! Thank you🤘😎
A guide of top performances based in movies I'VE WATCHED (only one by actor/actress):
MEN
1. Marlon Brando (The Godfather)
2. Al Pacino (Dog day afternoon)
3. Robert De Niro (Taxi Driver)
4. Anthony Hopkins (The Silence of The Lambs)
5. Jack Nicholson (The shining)
6. Daniel Day Lewis (There will be blood)
7. Leonardo DiCaprio (The Wolf of Wall Street)
8. Heath Ledger (The Dark Knight)
9. Orson Welles (Citizien Kane)
10. Malcolm McDowell (A Clockwork Orange)
WOMEN
1. Maria Falconetti (The passion of Joan of Arc)
2. Vivian Leigh (Gone with the wind)
3. Natalie Portman (Black Swan)
4. Meryl Streep (Sophie's Choice)
5. Naomi Watts (Mulholland Drive)
5. Anna Karina (Vivre Sa Vie)
6. Jodie Foster (Silence of The Lambs)
8. Cate Blanchett (Blue Jasmine)
9. Fernanda Montenegro (Central of Brazil)
10. Helena Bonham Carter (Fight Club)
You have 6K subs?! How?! This video was amazing
Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for such a kind comment!
Recently watched Phone Booth (again) and Colin Ferrell blows me away. im in awe every time i watch it. hes a force of nature. if you havent seen it i highly recommend. the movie was shot in TEN days. Its all in the eyes
This is Great content…
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Glad you liked it 🙌
I love how much you included from actresses. as an aspiring actor this is a fucking phenomenal video. well done. i feel better about not always being able to cry on command. not all of us are margot robbie haha
So much of it is how the director frames the actor & presents their performance in the edit.
Totally agree! Both the director and editor can have a huge impact on an actor’s performance (for better or worse).
The difference between a good actor and a bad actor is the ability to make you believe they are the person they are portraying and it is all dependent on what the genre of movie is. A person like Anthony Hopkins, Robert Redford or Jack Nicholson are about the best I've seen. Even a man like Adam Sandler or Jim Carrey have proven to be pretty good actors at times. Reign over Me or Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind are fine examples.
A great actor who has moved me the most recently is Charles Laughton. Incredible actor. He's not beautiful but he makes the pretty boys look like mere stars.
I’m just dying to know how an actor can make themselves cry/bawl in a scene at command.
If only we could know the answer to that…
But honestly, I think it’s different for every performer. Initially there was a longer cut of this video that had Bella Ramsey talking about how she actually has a lot of trouble crying on cue (it was from the Backstage podcast if you want to check it out, that's a great resource for understanding actors’ processes). It’s an interesting counterpoint to Margo Robbie - who has discussed that she can actually pick which eye to cry from (can’t remember exactly where she said this, but I know it was for Babylon). Anyway, I think it’s different for everyone, but still fascinating nonetheless.
@@fromtheframe yes. It is absolutely fascinating. But then my son knows how to cry on command whenever he wants something or doesn’t want something. lol
@@fromtheframe where can I find the video that you’re talking about?
The Bella Ramsey interview with Backstage can be found here - czcams.com/video/JYkW0MsDPmY/video.html (this is also a podcast that you can access through whichever app you prefer).
@@fromtheframe thank you
Acting is 50 takes and then having the editor cut n paste 5 of them together.
Amazing from a new channel
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Love your channel!
Thank you so much!
Great acting is when someone doesn't look like they're acting. Their speech pattern, movement, cadence, tone, is all very nuanced and matches what that particular character calls for. Of course a great script helps. For me, I want to be able to watch something and not think oh that actor is so and so and is playing a killer, lover or whatever. The actor has to dissolve into the character they're portraying without me noticing who is playing the character.
Good actors are plenty, but great actors are rare. I would consider Humphrey Bogart, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, Simon Pegg, Marlon Brando, Hugh Jackman, Johnny Depp and only a few others GREAT actors. A great actor allows you to actually believe they are not the person you know them as. Heath Ledger in Lords of Dogtown proved that to me. Those chameleon performances that transend reality. Good actors do their job well and emote, but you never forget who they are. You have guys like Jack Black can show you glimpses like in the film Bernie, but when you see Jack Black, you know exactly what you're going to get. Jennifer Aniston is a "good" actress. She will never break out or wow you with a performance that leads you to say "That was Jennifer Aniston?"
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Wow loved this one
Thank you so much!
James Gandolfini was an amazing actor he was some what of a father figure who i looked up too,i never had a dad so it might seem corny but I was broken still when i found out he passed
Great contents ❤❤ … Please can you watermark the movie names on the edge of the screen so we kinda know which movie you reference in case we want to go Sacco later?
Thanks! We’ll keep this in mind for future videos. Here’s the timestamps for the clips in this one:
(00:25) Moonlight, (00:44, 10:50) Tár, (00:46, 08:15) The Lobster, (00:48, 08:55) A Woman Under the Influence, (00:49, 11:05) Corsage, (01:13) Uncut Gems, (01:29, 05:00) I, Tonya, (01:51) Punch Drunk Love, (02:14) Call Me By Your Name, Never Rarely Sometimes Always, The Asassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Interstellar, American Beauty, Requiem for a Dream, Empire of Light, Nights of Cabiria, Aftersun, (02:44) Little Women, Tokyo Story, Atonement, Casablanca, L’Avventura, Normal People, Blue Valentine, (02:54, 05:28) The Florida Project, (03:21, 09:00) The Master, (03:43) Cool Hand Luke, (04:26) Fences, (05:01) Nightcrawler, (05:02) Get Out, (05:04) The Banshees of Inisherin, (5:04) Fleabag, (05:05) The Favourite, (05:06) No Country For Old Men, (05:07) Blue Valentine, (05:16) The Sound of Metal, (05:18) The Worst Person in the World, (05:20) Into the Wild, (05:23) Beef, (08:32) The Power of the Dog, (06:51) Phantom Thread Camera Tests, (07:44) The Lighthouse, (08:34) American Psycho, (08:39) Succession, (09:08) Taxi Driver, (09:12) Joker, (09:19) Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, (09:41) Jackie, (09:55) Being the Ricardos, (10:18) The Big Lebowski, (11:43) Till, (11:55) Shame, (12:09) Sicario, (12:15) Wanda, (12:19) Paris, Texas, (12:21) In the Mood for Love, (12:25) Cold War, (12:27) Marie Antionette
Surprised that Meryl Streep wasn't highlighted. She seems like the very definition of a great actor.
I'd like to get into acting.
The script. The play. The story.
I remember watching a Japanese TV movie about the Japanese soldier Onoda who spent 30 years in the Philippine jungle after the end of war. In one scene after he returns to Japan he does a press conference and one reporter asks "Was there anything fun all these years in the jungle?" and the actor (Shido Nakamura) takes his time, close up to his super intense looks, and says very slowly "There. Was. Nothing!" I was half-expecting "OSCAR CLIP" caption flashing like in the Wayne's world haha. I mean the thing is it was so uber dramatic compared to the actual interview (Onoda just said in the most boring tone, looking straight ahead, without missing a beat "There was nothing") it kept me thinking what is good acting anyway? As close as to the real thing or as embezzled as for the sake of acting?
*The video thumbnail image is completely inconsistent with what is written on the video thumbnail and in the video title itself. Especially having great actors participating in the meeting.*
I liked that very much thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
I'm not an actor at all but a musician and I wonder how music helps actors get into role/ helps with the scene
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9:32 very interesting point by Saoirse
Yeah, both she and Kate Winslet bring up some super interesting points on accents throughout that entire interview, like how Ronan never uses her real accent for a character.
You either have 'it' or you dont..Robert Mitchem said 'show up on time, hit your marks, say your lines, go home'..exactly..dont overthink it, just do it.
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really good video
Duval makes a great actor
A master. Have u ever scene The Apostle
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I think there is an obvious improvisation done by the actors for a scene which will be done differently by another actor which sets them apart.
what's the movie at 8:40
Succession
Im 28 recently turned! Is that too old to train and pursue acting?
We are so awesome
12:16 whose voice is that?
Paul Thomas Anderson
Why i always have to think 'Quentin Tarantino' when i see feet 😂
In reality people communicate with a much more clumsy way while an actor must deliver in reality you don't have to deliver.
This shit harder than y’all think
Adam Sandler deserved Oscar nomination for UNCUT GEMS instead of Dicaprio for Once Upon a time in Hollywood.. Average performance by Dicaprio.. same type of acting with costumes and moustache
Can you react to mohanlals acting hes an southindian legend.... I think he is one of thee bestt in the world 🙏🏾😓pls react to him he is so underrated even in india
What makes a great performance? When it’s not a “performance”.
Keep in mind, these actors are always acting. Hollywood unfailingly becomes their own personal cancer.
Bold actors imo are Cate Blanchett, Daniel day Lewis, Isabelle Huppert. They always make bold choice to play, never feel same. Legends of our time.
And this is only one style of acting
Jared Leto could teach these "actors" a thing or two.
3 mins in… and it’s the most trash advice😂😂😂 Margot Robbie speaking about making a timeline for her character was VERY good though💯 Every character has a backstory and nobody is one dimensional. She has given GREAT PERFORMANCES because of it. Robert Duvall is a beast as well
i learned to tell my actors not about their roles motivation, nor about the result. i tell them what the audience shall experience and understand. thats a common language in front and behind the camera.
Yeah, when watching behind the scenes of directors talking with actors, it becomes apparent that there really is no right or wrong way to do things - there’s only what works for them. Similar to how there’s no one acting process, there’s no one way to talk to actors. These things are often not black and white.
The truth is God is the tru villain watch ing a train wreck with popcorn
No help
марго робби плохая актриса
99% of acting is the way you look, not talent. It is a hyper superficial industry. You could be the greatest actor who ever lived, but if you don't have a look, a marketable look, no different than a car or a pair of shoes in the market, you won't get the job.
Its not true at all
@@Narministic It is true. Head shots are what determine whether or not you're even considered for an audition, before you even have any chance to demonstrate your acting. You're living in a dream world.
Grimes dumped Elon Musk, one of the wealthiest people on the planet. How much money do I need to amass so that doesn’t happen to me again?
I guess I shouldn’t listen to human traffickers for wisdom
… so in the end what makes great acting? Lots of words and lacking of facts.
is there anyone that has IMDb pro (and a good heart) that can say to me Michelle’s Calderon email 😞
It's woke shit I don't watch hollywood
When my love life is well i would challenge more
I rather laugh
People not listen in real life
Too many silly stuff