People MUST be buying these?! - ORIGIN PC EON-17X Showcase
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It's not a laptop... it's a portable, folding, all-in-one gaming PC.
"portable" is a tad bit of an overstatement
@@olivertrees well....you can fit this better on your lap than a full desktop, with mouse, Keyboard, Monitor and everything else.
Isn’t that literally the definition of a laptop? A portable folding pc?
@@jell7907 that can be put on your lap, which is not happening with this one
Phones getting bigger laptops getting smaller 😂
I guess the fans actually add a lot to the Flight Sim immersion.
Underrated 😂
Finally, I can really feel like I'm spinning up a jet turbine.
Oh my god
Haha
lmao
To answer your question about who this is for, I know it’s perfect for me. Over the road trucker that loves to PC game, have an Alienware currently, and I’ve been thinking about building a small form tower to hook up in the truck, but hate the idea of taking it out when I get home, this is a good option for me
I'm Trucker to and this is what I been looking for put in my truck and replace my setup
My buddy is a travelling nurse who wants to be able to hook up to his nice big monitor at home but also be able to throw it in the car when he travels out of town, this thing is perfect for him.
Fifteen years from now: "Greeting, and welcome to an LGR thing..."
you mean fifty
@@jayjoeie Nah, only if the march of technology halts for a generation.
Welcome to a hugh Jeffrey video in this video
Honestly as a portable desktop this is very cool. Looking at the price though I think I will stick with my mini fridge sized PC
Lol
what else is pretty cool is the 3 year life span before the battery shits out.
I've been using these clevos since 2011. While being a 3D student / freelance, that takes trips back home on a plane often, that was AMAZING.
You do pay a premium though.
and on top of that, then they unplugged it the power useage DROPPED, so if you wanna gave you are tethered to a wall which is not a portable desktop, its a laptop where youll always need a charger attached to use.
holy what are you doing here?
It’s almost 5000$ with that config, because they refuse to ever say the price in sponsored videos
You can see at the end of the vid, they are showing briefly the website with different configuration. I saw from 3,500$ us to Easley higher than 5000 us.
I wouldn't buy one, but for what you're getting in a relatively small case it's not too bad. My comparable desktop was around $3500.
@@aswd45-mk14 hitting 5k wasn't easy, it's the maxed out version
@@balazsh2 It was easy because that's the exact config they tested in this video.
Just build a mini itx pc and connect that to a portable monitor, same shit basiclly.
The battery life on that laptop will be close to non existing anyways. And but portable monitor, I mean something like this.
www.amazon.com/ASUS-XG17AHP-Portable-Adaptive-Sync-Micro-HDMI/dp/B087N2VVTP/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ASUS+17%22+ROG+Strix+XG17AHP&qid=1625598865&sr=8-2
This thing is incredible. The engineering involved in shrinking down a full gaming PC is extremely impressive. It’s a very niche product, but the fact that it’s possible is what amazes me. I know it’s not a new idea, but still!
@@harmstrongg seriously.
I know a lot of people in the 3D-scanning and engineering field, that just need the raw horsepower of those machines and need it to be portable, so this is the perfect option for them, because they're carrying a lot of heavy equipment with it anyways.
But I actually personally don't know of a single gamer that has such a machine.
If you're already carrying heavy machinery, couldn't you just carry a tower around?
@@LethalPigeon7 carrying a tower requires u to carry a monitor and peripherals and multiple cables to set all of it up. This just need 2 power bricks to get everything up and running. It's about ease of use as well as performance.
@@LethalPigeon7 desktop computers were not designed to be carried, so they are more likely to get damaged, especially if they have a beefy GPU. Also, don’t forget that this laptop effectively includes a UPS. A UPS for a desktop would be much more difficult to carry.
@@Finder245 If you have heavy equipment to carry anyways I'd assume you have a trolley where everything is mounted to regardless, making size and weight a bit of a mood point
I've met several gamers that prefer gaming laptops. I cannot fathom why. None of them can really afford to replace them every 3 years. I'm pretty sure they're paying them off until year 6. But they prefer them.... With external monitors, kbm and headset. Just buy an sff PC is what I tell them. They never move the laptop either.
Yvonne: Where the hell is all our toilet paper?
Linus: Not now hun, i'm running benchmarks
Yvonne?
linux?
@@pratyushchandra6306 the spelling r wrong but she is linuses wife lol
Linux?
Linux actually: Toilet paper is at /dev/toiletpaper
The whole idea is about it is being backpack-able.
Not everyday carry.
Y'all don't carry a bag or backpack everywhere?
This is like, keep it in your dorm constantly and only lift it from the table when visiting home.
Why does no laptop manufacturer like dell, or Razer, just partnership with noctua and put 2 big nd light fans into these "gaming" laptops, great thermals and not sounding like a jet engine.
@@ManuSaraswat ...
nowadays you can put micro itx in backpack too
Linus: "Who are you?"
Buyer: "We are ppl who moves around, stay here 2 weeks, go there 3 weeks, back here 1 week, then off somewhere again who wants those powerful specs & portability"
Bingo
Exactly, though its more in months rather than weeks for me. Still its more than 3 different places sometimes.
Teenagers that stay over the week at school, Kids with devorced parents, travelers that do editing. Offgrid travelers that Work from their Van.
72 hours at work , where I can play games most of the time, but at any point, I will have to work.... This sort of laptop is what I normally want.
yup, I used to be away from home 75% or more of the year and usually had a dedicated space I could setup my PC so I always went with desktop replacements.
"Whats the price on this thing?"
"Not cheap" - Linus
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind when purchasing 🤣
when i was in the army computer like this were popular with us few gamers. easy to pack when you move barracks or bases and once they are set up on your desk in your room(with a kensington lock) it was basically a desktop and you really never moved it but you could easily if you had to.
But why the kensington lock? People would steal your property? Or just troll you by hiding it?
@optimalbass Yes.
@@Soapy_Papoose I was an idiot and thought that things wouldn't be too bad since we were all on the same side. How quickly I learned.
@@optimalbass leadership will steal it just to prove a point of you shouldn't leave things unsecured. Almost all computer equipment in the army is locked to the desk. my unit locks all its laptops to the desk and the person signed for the computer is the one with the code to open it and like supply and s1
Can you imagine getting on a plane and hearing the pilot say "Oh my god, I'm in the wrong seat"
Linus will be like : "... But you know who's is in the right seat?... Our sponsors... RainPaper VPN.... Blah blah blah..."
You don't have to imagine with LTT Air
Where Linus will be your pilot AND co-pilot
I use desktop replacement “laptops” as field processing computers for Aerial surveying. A normal laptop cannot come even close to keeping up with my processing requirements. I will peg my dual Xeon 2699 v4s for hours, so the laptop still isn’t even close to sufficient, but it’s better than clicking go and smelling everything melt on most laptops.
So you know who uses these beasts on the regular..
Sounds poorly optimised from here. [Hoping the proof I'm wrong handily fits in a comment.]
@@Cineenvenordquist well. It’s a 350mp final image. The raw data is 14ccds that have to be meshed and pan shaded together. There are 9 Pano (B&W) CCDs in a 3x3 grid and 4 full coverage separate R G B I sensors that shade the Geometrically accurate Pan sensors data to make it a color image. On top of that, you also have to Ortho the 9 Pan images together at the same time. Each exported image is 1Tb to 1.3 TB depending if it’s 3 band RGB or 4 band RGBI data.
It’s actually extremely well optimized.
@@tnargdonald based
majority think the opposite for some reason
I agree that this thing is impressive however, the fact that origin is trying to squeeze every cent out of it is insane to me. They are even charging a 15$ extra charge to get a thermal compound applied to the cpu, on a computer that starts at 3k.
Fr I went to the site and was like excuse me what
It isn’t obvious from there site but is it not a “premium thermal compound” upgrade?
This thing is incredible. The engineering involved in shrinking down a full gaming PC is extremely impressive. It’s a very niche product, but the fact that it’s possible is what amazes me. I know it’s not a new idea, but still!
Taking in to concideration that an alternative for this is a prebuild brand pc, there isn't that much of a price-up.
@@artyomloukashov636 plus it is the only reliable way to get a 3080….
I'm an expat and when I left my home country, I couldn't keep the big desktop so I bought one of those cause I wasn't planning on giving up gaming. In the first following year, I had to move 5 times to different flatshares. Lemme tell you that just having a big 5Kg laptop to move VS a desktop makes a big difference. And if I ever need to go back to my home country and now that I have more stuff, I know I can just carry it with me instead of having to ship it in a container. So this form factor works out for me better than a desktop,
Thanks for the response, Origin bot!
@@ItzzTesta You do realize this is a Clevo chassis used by a ton of different brands, right
@@isodoubIet clearly he/she/it doesn't or he/she/it wouldn't have made such a stupid comment
@@sabishiihito bro just stop
If your point to have this big boye just for 'gaming' i really suggest you to buy other lighter laptops, such as flow x13, g14 etc. But if you really love carrying weight nor straight up love 60/4K. Than welp can't help lmao
Linus: People must be buying these things
Wallet: *silently screaming*
So true though XD
why are you not pinned yet smh
@@LizordSword you remember me? lol
I can’t find you anywhere, where did u go dude? In a miner’s farm or something?
Except, it was people like you who's wallet was silently screaming at something like this that I typically took a setup like this to. All of my friend that couldn't afford decent gaming PCs or the newest consoles for the people that I would bring my desktop replacement pc to so that way we can play games, and they could enjoy high-end gaming too. It was a really cumbersome taking the newest console to them but it's very easy to throw a laptop power brick and an HDMI cord. Plug it into a TV and it's way better than any console game they were going to have played
Think of the battery in this thing as a built in UPS
yeah pretty much.
Exactly. The laptop can’t even run at full performance when on battery.
The Clevos I had could last maybe 30 minutes on a charge when brand new. That's about right.
Yeah makes sense
I am surprised that people commenting don’t realise that these things cannot actually run properly unless plugged in..
When I was in the barracks I had little to no space. A gaming pc was out of the picture, but some did have one. With the constant moving around and limited space, a portable pc replacement is exactly what I would've wanted. The military is huge so I'd say they might be one of the customers and I'd say for most countries.
When did u get out of AIT?
Same, when I lived in AF dorms, here and abroad, I had a gaming laptop.
I buy them as I kind of need these beasts… I’m in the military and spend eons away from my desktop at home, so rather than settle for a slim slow form-factor, my laptop is going to be in a barrack block room set up as a desktop for when I’m not working… that’s the reason myself and many more will spend way more than we should to enjoy almost desktop grade performance at a remote location.
this, there are 2 kinds of portable, portable as in "somewhat lightweight because you carry it around much" and portable as in "i dont have the storage capacity and/or time to move an actual desktop PC" and since laptop-screens became so good lately I would argue these kinds of laptops gained even more relevance.
I had 2 different Clevos across the span of 12 years. It was perfect as a Merchant Marine Engineer sailing on different ships.
@@noba4696 Well, i think it's how frequent do you carry them... I guess
Retired AF and yep you pretty much summed it up, and because of that baseline, even though I'm out now... I don't like having less capable laptops.
Or you could get the best of both worlds with a mid ground laptop like mine which has a 10875h CPU and a 2070 super and isn't the size and weight of a massive brick.
Linus: "that fan!"
Me: "I can't hear it."
"Oh wait, my fan is louder than that."
Weird flex but okay 👍
@@clydefrog4959 no my laptop is old so it overheats a lot its a i5 4310u
@@Somethingwithgeography Right there with ya dawg i got a 2nd gen i7 in my 2760p elitebook. But with an ssd its still a workhorse.
@@clydefrog4959 I should get an ssd for this laptop
When I was in the military, a lot of squaddies used these sorts of extreme desktop replacement laptops, which spent most of it's time sat on their desk, but when they got posted or sent away on courses or even went on deployment it would go with them. It really would be a "portable desktop".
Yeah I recon the military is a big part of the desktop replacement market share.
I am an engineer and project management, and this is awesome for me. For engineers, architects, 3d artists, and event Ti professionals, we like power!
Origin Marketing: This product is for the gaming enthusiast
Linus: THIS IS STRICTLY FOR THE BIG BOYS
The predator 21x: Finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary
@hv a happy day Stop advertising
@@fib621 come on it's a joke
@@nikolaitoxvaerd Nah, some people just wants views
*Gets slammed by Po's butt representing EoL of SLI profiles and support in games...*
And the winner of that can go against the same priced Falcon NW desktop replacement laptop that comes with 4 times the drive space, double the ram at 600 mhz faster, and a full fledged 3060, not the max p half asser.
I travel between the US and Japan multiple times a year, for months at a time, and do video production. Having a full desktop that I can carry on the plane would be excellent.
This is ver cool. As an expat working in 3D visualization industry, this is ideal for artist looking for portability. Probably not the best solution for sitting in a cafe to do 3D rendering whilst enjoying a Timmys, but for making client meetings to showcase visualisation projects, this is pretty awesome. Definitely will look in to this to see if I can get one in Bangkok. Thank you so much for the review on this.
This isn’t a laptop. This is a space heater.
Space heater that plays games haha
Boy i wish this applies to where i live but its already hot here
An intro that won't blind me.... saviour of my eyes is the person who made the dark mode intro.... 🙏🙏
Lets see how many subs I can get from this comment
Current: 204
Turn your brightness down ya animal lol
@@zalbert_zest shut up
Get better eyes.
People who buy those are : 3D Designers, Electronics layout engineers, Anyone who does CAD, Fusion 360, Solidworks, Inventor, etc, etc. Video editors, Coders...AND Gamers.
Those people... buy desktops. You need a crucial condition for all of them - they have to move between places quite regularly, otherwise they are just wasting money.
I’d rather buy a Louqe Ghost S1 with a Pelican Suitcase than that chunky boy
@@GeorgeWaleczko Anyone of those that does site work, if you've done any you'll know you end up working out of starbucks and hotel rooms and if you're lucky the company that hires you gives you an office for a week, you need to haul around a machine that can crunch serious numbers on the move.
@@GeorgeWaleczko sometimes desktop replacements are actually cheaper than building a desktop. My Acer desktop replacement has desktop ryzen 2700, desktop Vega 56 gpu (120watt tdp limited) 32GB ram, over 3TB of SSD storage, 144hz freesync, etc etc, all for a total cost including the extra 2*8 ram sticks and extra SSDs of just $1500. $1299 was the sale price. it's worth pointing out this was 2-3 years ago, when a 144hz freeysnc display was around $300 minimum, a vega 56 was hard as hell to find anywhere near msrp, and building a comparable system specs-wise was the same cost, if not way more due to the vega 56.
these people buy AMD not this Intel heater
I had an EON17-SLX back in 2017 to 2019 since I was living on the road for work. It came with a desktop 7700K, and a mobile 1080 (which was VERY close to it's desktop counterpart). It cost me $4k, then I upgraded it with (2) 1TB Samsung NVMe 960 Pro's ($1K Each since the technology was new) + 64GB DDR4 2666 RAM... For a laptop, it IS a mobile desktop. It worked perfectly up until my coworker dropped it... Unfortunately the drop moved something inside which shorted out the motherboard and GPU... To replace those components, I might as well have built a desktop from scratch, so I did. But, during it's 3 year run time, it was perfect.
"gently press the 8 key"
linus gives the 8 key the belt
"how do you gently press a button?"
Time stamp lol I keep skipping around due to A.D.D
@@Censord at about 10:43
you need his jesus nikes too?
I think HP was probably aiming for this level of Linus’ enthusiasm in LTT’s last elite folio “showcase”
Lmao
I'm sincirely sorry for them
I have a 10lb gaming laptop, and yeah its very nice to game on while traveling. It is also really nice to have a pc that you can bring to a lan, or a friends place that isnt a full power tower.
So I have a laptop like this. The use for me is for my racing rig, it doubles up as a second screen for telemetry without taking up space for a tower pc. Additionally it's no issue to pick it up and plug it into the TV for when I want a big screen gaming sesh!
"Yes mom, this is a chromebook for school"
@@clickmenow9723 stop spamming nobody cares
Haha
yeah, a four thousand dollar chromebook
lol
Funny but fuck chromebooks
i can see Linus screaming "If only this was AMD" from the inside.
@Rita 25 y.o - check my vidéó @Thot Police
I'm screaming that inside. It's what keeps my bank account safe.
This last winter I bought the little brother of this machine, the EON-15X, with a desktop Ryzen 7, 16G of ram, two 1TB drives (one NVMe M.2 and one hard drive), and an RTX 2070. With a few small extras and after tax it cost me close to $2700. That's still pricey for a laptop, but a lot less than the 17". I don't think of this thing as a laptop. It's a desktop that I can take on the road with me. I even bought a 24" 165hz monitor so when I'm traveling, I don't have to settle for the 15.6" display. Starbucks no, but hotel room definitely.
This would be really useful for living in a dorm or constantly on the move and need a powerful gaming device.
I prefer calling them "LANtops", because they're more of a mobile desktop pc, than something you would put on a lap
This thing is incredible. The engineering involved in shrinking down a full gaming PC is extremely impressive. It’s a very niche product, but the fact that it’s possible is what amazes me. I know it’s not a new idea, but still!
Origin P.C: Our fans make it seem like our PC could take off!
Launch PS4 Owners: Pathetic…
As a PC gamer when I met my gf with her PS4 I am still surprised it stays on the ground.
Sorta surprised my friend’s PS4 didn’t fly off when he usually used it
Tbh once you pull it apart and give it a good deep cleaning, it doesn't sound nearly as bad as it used to. I mainly do PC gaming but do like my old PS4, as an old friend.
Always use a headset on full volume when playing ps4 xD
Launch? My later PS4 still took off soj
That kind of gaming rig is ideal for truckers who like to game.
While they are trucking
Cold ones🍺
@@JeffBastian And playing Euro/American Truck Simulator
@@projwaldeb5498 holy smokes the irony is mind boggling, when i used to work ( now i'm retired ) thats exactly what i would do, when i was in hotels after my trucking runs, i would play american truck simulator, and having a laptop with some serious juice behind was very helpful. If for some super odd reason i went insane and went back to work, i would probably buy a laptop like this so when i'm out of town i can game like i'm at home
@@Sarevok57 No disrespect but that's a really funny image lol
"Ahhh, finally done hauling for the day! Time to unwind..."
*Proceeds to haul virtual cargo in free time*
I' can tell of one use of this things.
In my line of work cryo TEM we need to process data on a GPU workstation. But sometimes when we go to different locations to collect the data we need on the fly processing to know if we are collecting the data the right way. So such a laptop can be very helpful with that. We can collect data for a few hours and process it live as it go and when we can see that it's good we can continue collecting or to make adjustments to the collection parameters. This saves tons of time, and when a day of data collection can cost thousands of dollars this can be a life changer, especially for a young researcher.
thanks for the benchmark comparisons, Linus.
As an editor, these are a godsend. I've been able to make a living with these, since I'm able to bring them with me to people's businesses, their houses, and I can edit anywhere. I had a full time job last year working for a big online show, because I was able to take my laptop into work 5 days a week.
Razer Blade Pro 17 has 4k touch 120hz display, rtx3080, 32gig, 2tb nvme weighs two times less, and has one small power brick for the same price and looks way better. Why would you need a machine that ugly and loud.
@@Andrushe4kanka uhh, just looked up this laptop... and there are many reasons.
- I guarantee you, you are not getting anywhere near the same amount of cpu clock speeds as a desktop replacement.
- The 3080 you're referring to is not a stock desktop 3080, but a lower clocked laptop version.
- It caps out at 230 watts (almost half of what this laptop can handle).
- Most prices I could find for this laptop ranged between $2500~$3500. This desktop replacement however, is $3000 and objectively better in almost every way, for essentially the same price (except battery and weight, which don't matter for the people intending to buy it for work).
I thought I was clear, I don't care how it looks, that's not why I bought it? I'm talking about using desktop replacements for professional video editing. Working with 4k ProRes footage while also rendering batches of videos pretty much all day while I'm out somewhere. I'm able to take what is essentially a desktop level editing station with me anywhere, and I've been able to work on a lot of projects because I can take my machine to a clients busness or home or wherever, and work with them.
@@IbbyMelbourne I think you're right except for one thing. the price of a linus laptop in the configurator is 5000 dollars
@@Andrushe4kanka oh true, fair enough
Holy shit origin literally made a bunch of bots to comment what their job is and what they use this for. If not. You just seem like a bot, which I would guess you are
Linus: "Anybody who knows how to flight sim will be unimpressed with me right now"
Yes
Report this guys ^
Imagine him on Vatsim lmao
Realistic flight simulator experience
the Sims?
I have been buying these beasts from OriginPC since the execs from Alienware after its sale to Dell started OriginPC and made available its first release, which was actually an 18.1" laptop monster - amazingly enough, the computer still runs 12 years later, without issue. These newer chassis, which they have been using since 2014, are great, albeit large, but disperse heat extremely well and have adapted to higher heat concerns as the technology has progressed. However, these gaming monsters were solutions for a market that heavily lacked in production of gaming laptops for the masses, which then filled a more niche consumer. Today, gaming laptops are prolific, produced by practically every laptop manufacturer with significantly greater financial resources than OriginPC to throw towards their products, i.e. MSI Raider, Asus ROG Strix, etc. Notwithstanding, OriginPC attempts to "keep up with the Jones''s" with its most recent release of small form, more compact, light, gaming laptop, the EVO series. They recently released a 12th gen small form factor, very light and mobile, gaming laptop in different flavors, 14, 15 and 17 inches, which include i7 12700 and i9 12900 (I believe up to 110w), @1080p and 2k respectively, a 3080ti video card (125w and 150w turbo mode), DDR5 Ram up to 64gig, and either 8 or 16tb NvMe. I have been waiting to see the review of these new laptops on your channel since their release a month or so ago, but since it has been well over a month since release I figured I would "poke the bear" so to speak. Hoping you get one so I can see how they perform by your more knowledgeable and informed review.: www.originpc.com/gaming/laptops/
Been seriously looking at an Origin EON17-X for a while now. Reviews like this one are very helpful.
This is literally the opposite of an Apple mac...
lol so true
It's got actual working cooling fan
It's powerful
Looks sick
It's got headphone jack
Massive
Meanwhile Apple
Shitty cooling
Slow
Looks alright
No headphone jack
Smol
@@TheNamesArif LMFAO WHAT..???
And I don’t think that’s merits
An iPad kills this abomination
I’m coming back in 10 years when Linus does a retrospective on this $4500 laptop ;)
Someone is selling an alienware 18 with an i74900MQ and dual GTX780M in SLI near me from 2013. I hope that gets included.
Call me crazy but I expect this thing to still be an absolute beast in 10 years.... The power consumption and form factor will probably look horrendous compared to the future through
BRUH
I order the top of the line balls to the wall 2011 year $6,140 from Origin. The case almost looks the same. It was heavy and I had duel GPUs in there.
@@Mugen_YG 7 years
Desktop replacements are what I always shop for. Generally my machine goes to the office with me, gets docked for 8 hours then comes home, and if I am on the road space is not a premium and having a larger screen for the infrequent time I am using it not docked is far more of a plus. The battery for me is more of a built in UPS and more space for additional storage the better. Having a machine where I can have my home partition on a RAID 1 is nice.
I always remember to thrust when the LTT opening plays.
Hello Linus, I'm a marine! And YES we buy these things when working on the sea! :)
Lool, marine gamers😆👍🏻
How low does the boat sink when you bring that beast onboard and is it nuclear powered 😉
@@roosterbooster6238 lol
@@roosterbooster6238 actually, a couple of aircraft carriers are nuclear powered
@@pootismaster420 I know, I was thinking about the power draw that thing has it will need it!
Tis a true sea monster of a laptop ar ar
People who this would be suited to: those in the armed forces, those who are away often e.g. oil rig workers or long haulage drivers, and lastly, rich people with way too much cash for their own good
College gamer that goes home on the weekends
Merchant Mariner here. I owned 2 Clevos, they were perfect for me.
@@nathandorris896 This. Not only gamer, I needed a laptop with a quad core CPU with HT, over 16GB of RAM and a dedicated GPU for college simulations, VMs and gaming. I wish I had a desktop, but the need to regularly bring my entire computational power with me between home, college and parent's home outweighted all the benefits of a desktop. I could only afford 1 computer and working around not having it with me at all times when required would be stupid, especially when the price differential between my laptop and a comparable desktop at the time was roughly 250€
EDIT: Do note that my laptop was much more lower powered than this one, it was a Clevo P151SM. Roughly 1300€
@@hengineer Same here. Their older models, nearly half of the catalog had desktop CPUs. But currently I think only 2 or 3 have a desktop CPU. They seem to last for about 3 years with steady everyday use. After that, the heat starts killing components.
@@flashcloud666 maybe if you overload them and don't clean them? My first one, generationally was a Core 2 Extreme with the Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT (lol). It lasted me 5 year, my 2nd one I bought with a Core I7 3960x and an nVidia GeForce 780M. I recently upgraded it to a 980m. That one lasted me 7 years. Still going strong, too. Using it as my TV media PC
Not this brand, but I used to use a desktop replacement laptop. It's excellent if you need a full power desktop workstation but a small footprint and the ability to move it around. Relocating your workstation frequently is different than needing portability. Hotels, moving apartments often, small living spaces vs needing to use it in coffee shops or whatever.
Definitely a use case there. I used to do a lot of photo and video editing at a time when laptops were definitely not the ideal solution.
There are many reasons why someone would want one of these systems - lack of space for a proper desktop, having to move between different places and carrying it on-site for process-heavy jobs are only a few of them. I had a couple of these over the years and they were my only system at the time; I was working as a software engineer Monday-Friday in one city, then going to my family about a 3 hours train ride/drive away for the week end, then back on Monday morning and these were ideal. Also helped a lot when I moved abroad from there and I was changing apartment (well, flatshare) quite often.
I've also known a few other people in engineering, architecture and design who use these 'cause they often need to go on-site for jobs (data processing or even real-time design with the customer, for example).
I've been back to the desktop realm for years now, but having also had more than one classic "gaming laptop", if I had to move again or for whatever reason get rid of the desktop I'd go for one of these (well maybe not this specific model, but in this category), because you really get the best compromise - portability without sacrificing raw performance.
The barebones for these systems are generally made by Clevo and then assembled and sold by retailers like Origin.
I have one one of them, a 1060 + i7 which I purchased 4 years ago when I went to university. It's held up pretty well and is still my main system to this day.
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I have one with the 780m and i7 47xx. It's still alive after 8or 9 years. Can't even tell already. Stupid noisy but will hold up a decade more for basic stuff 😂.
A lot of my friends in the military get these, it really hard to move a full desktop from base to base but this can fit in a backpack
As a military guy, yes. Desktop replacements are military PCMR gamers' best friends
@@ZeWildwicky Do any of you opt for mini ITX builds instead? Or is a "laptop" just way more convenient?
@@MoChuang343 did you forget you also need a monitor and a keyboard, or just decided to ignore it? Also, it's a lot more easy to close this thing and pu it into a bag, rather than disconnect all the cable from a desktop and move all the stuff with a cart...
@@MoChuang343 laptops are better for us. With an ITX you still need to transport a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and cables n shit. Laptops are yeah, much more convinient. In our shop in particular, a lot of people take laptops on deployments because aircraft maintenance is a very... Either doing nothing or shit hitting the fan all day kind of job. And we are critical personnel so were never in dangerous situations. So its kinda perfect to take your laptop on deployment lol.
@@ZeWildwicky yeah that's what I figured. I've been considering downsizing my build and putting a portable monitor and BT surface type cover in the laptop sleeve of my backpack. I think it would be doable, but cables are still annoying. I definitely agree that a laptop is more convenient and makes much more sense especially in the $1000-$2000 range like a Legion or something. I was just curious if the equation changed above $4000 since desktop components outperform laptops (like the one in this video) by quite a bit at the super high end.
I work in construction and work from my truck quite a bit, this thing would be great for civil3d and any other field calc/modeling programs, drone flights and handling large data sets in the field
We use a lot of these kinds of laptops for live productions for lighting and visuals. Mainly because we need something portable to move from stage to stage but powerful enough to push very high quality graphics to LED walls and projectors
And then the price hits you like a wall of bricks. Alas, just a dream 😂
no job, cheap M1 not good enough????
I remember purchasing something like this when I was deployed to Afghanistan. If I'm remembering correctly, it was the GT80 Titan. I wanted desktop performance but didn't have any room for a desktop since they decided to shove four people into a single room. It worked pretty well, and I even found a way to mount a monitor arm to the frame of the bed so that I could use a 27in. 1440P display.
If you don't mind me asking, how does that work logistically?
I've never been in the armed forces, but I've always wonder, when you see for example older movies soldiers in Vietnam having a guitar and such.
Is there room for personal items that big? The 27inch display? Or did you buy it in Afghanistan?
@@PawPatrolPapa Yup this product is for people who move around and cannot take their desktop with them
Thing is nowadays you can get mid range desktop performance from a "thin" laptop that will also have great battery life and won't break you back carrying around.
@@BerserkFury89 Thermals and acoustics will be atrocious. There's no free lunch.
@@isodoubIet They're much better than the heavyweight laptops of the old. My G15 with a 5900hx and a 3070 gets a lot less hot than an old MSI laptop I had with a 3000 series intel CPU and a gtx 675mx
I have a msi ge73vr raider and I absolutely love it; so there is a market for larger, performance laptops. Travel for work, so its nice to have a good gaming experience while on the road.
They make sense for a gamer/editor that usually uses the laptop at the same place, and only needs to move it every once in a while.
Mine is a beefy laptop too, but it's almost always in the living room, in the same place, where I've got a LAN internet connection cable and other things already setup.
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I see laptops like these and wonder "why not AMD".
Yea, they could have just put a 5900x or 5950x with or without eco mode on in this kind of chasis. Heck, it can just use only 1 power brick and not 2 lol
Clevo X170 (the model in this video) has relative weak CPU thermal. I wonder why Dell don't put a 5950X in their 51MR2 which has a huge C-shape Vapor-Chamber for CPU. Dell could at least make a Precision 9000 series with that design and that would fu*k Xeon mobile on other mobile workstation.
For Clevo X170: why not GA 102 when the thermal compacity for GPU is 250W?
I remember seeing this chassis with a 3950x
Agree!
I have one, different brand but same chassis! My main reason, I live in a one bed flat with partner. I don't have space for permanent desktop set up.
I work in 3D modelling and rendering, I enjoy gaming. If we move to a bigger place I'll plug two screens into it and call it good. It's an absolute powerhouse!
Pretty useful if you like going to lan parties are your friends house pretty regularly.
When I was in high school me and my friends would literally bring our xbox's from one house to another to play CoD. In college I did it with wow, etc... and having a laptop meant me and my buddies could play real PC games all on the same table / desk. Sweet af. But definitely not for using on your lap... and tbh, I had 2 laptops. One for gaming / lan parties, and the other was a macbook that I used for class and what not.
As someone who has owned 2 different Clevos. It was perfect for when I was sailing as a Marine Engineer. I could have the power of a desktop but the portability of a laptop (sorta), so I could go from ship to ship with no problems.
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These devices are perfect for Visual FX in live events and broadcast productions (think giant LED walls with live-rendered animations & effects). You can't have enough processing power in a portable package for those, when you don't want to pull out the big media servers with several 3090s.
I really like how the sponsor integration was handled in this one. It seemed... smoother? than the usual
I got a desktop replacement last year cos' I was supposed to be moving to Japan, but then COVID. Still is nice to pack up easily and have that built in UPS.
In no compromises laptops like this I tend to refer to them as portable desktops, particularly if they've got no effective battery life. It's a built in UPS for moving the power brick to another outlet or in case the power goes out.
I had an ancestor of one of these 5 years ago. I had just gotten a big pay raise but had to be away from home during the week, so I lugged that thing back and forth. Worked for what I wanted.
It's more like a desktop that is transportable than a real laptop. For many of my friends, who love to move to big centers for LAN contests, this thing would be the Holy Grail. I had one of these kind of computers when I served in French Navy. It was comfortable to use that many of my friends bought one too. For small cramped spaces it's a really nice option.
As someone who buys that kind of computer, I can explain :
I need the performance of a desktop, but because I move "often" between my parent's place, my uni and abroad, i need something that is relatively easy to move
Buy you could buy... I don't know, say Lenovo Legion for $1000-1500 and still have enough performance to play everything at 60-120 FPS. Plus it weights like 2.3kg and is actually quite portable. Why need 300FPS?
@@adriang3492 or just buy a laptop AND a desktop for the same price?
@@adriang3492 True, I don't *need* the extra performance, but since I don't care about size and weight, just that it's an all in one package, why not grab the fastest thing around (even if it's the fattest)
@@LunaticCharade I move too often to justify a desktop. So I end up eith a powerful, fat gaming laptop, and an ultrabook for work and daily commutes
@@adriang3492 Lenovo Legion has a smaller screen and a weird aspect ratio. Game developers already don't expect you to be running on a laptop so you occasionally see weird bugs re e.g. optimus so having a weird resolution is a serious knock against the legion.
Also, the legion is a thin and light, compromised on thermals, performance, and acoustics.
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This is impressive and would 5otally consider for my next upgrade. Though I would've loved to see igh refresh rate 1440p as an option
I personally Travel a lot so for me a “portable computer” fills all my gaming and work related needs quite nicely. Being able to use it at home at my desk and then 10 hours later be using at a hotel with minimal hassle and no real change in performance, is a god send. I’m a big fan of these chunky laptops and they fulfill my needs perfectly but they are a big investment and if you don’t really travel much or just don’t need a portable gaming rig I can’t reccomend them. Just build a more powerful computer at home for like half the cost. But if a portable gaming rig is what you need then i fully recommend the investment. Just make sure to get the extended warranty ;)
I have a market for this. I live in Southern Louisiana, and having the ability to pack everything up and run would have been nice last hurricane season. After the hurricanes my school board and some businesses have banned new desktop computers for that reason. A laptop like this would meet the portability and performance requirements of classes like digital art and engineering design.
You could make an itx build though
get xmg apex 15 with 3950x&rtx2070 which weights around3Kg unilke this x70sm 5-7Kg maddness...
this laptop-x170sm- with quadro top-line and 11900k,is simply the beast but for other applications or gaming,things like msi Ge76/lenovo legion 17 are better or for pure cpu performance,that nh55 from last year is phenomenal..but unfortunately bz of chip shortage&covid,the successor hasn't been announced which was going to have 5900x(or 5950x) with rtx3000 series.
there are other desktop models as well with intel:
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I’m more of a thinkpad type of guy but I’ll still watch.
Same here, more into "bizniz" laptop with dock thing but this quite pleasing to watch
I love thinkpads with Linux.. it’s like they were made for it
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@@tanmay______I have an idea pad with Linux and it’s great too
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@LTT you should make some pieces about minimalist setups for people who don't really have the space, looking into different solutions, buildwise, compared to using your TV for gaming, having a gaming laptop or some sort of collapsible furniture to game at.
I have been using a gaming laptop from alienware with a gtx 1080 in it for sim racing in VR and DCS World in VR. Living in a condo I do not have the luxury of space so my desktop cant be in the same room as my sim rig. the laptop migrates from my office to my living room regularly for gaming and for running music software as I play drums. Powerful laptops like this enable me to do all of the things I want with a computer wherever I need to setup.
I've seen engineers and industrial automation techs with laptops like these, they travel for work and it require some beefy computing power. This way they can take all their favorite tools with them ready to go.
That ridiculous RGB lighting is a bit unnecessary in a professional setting, though!
@@BoredInNW6 I said 'like these' referring to the form factor, not this particular model. And I have seen people with colorful computers, when you're getting paid as much as those guys you can pretty much do what you want.
@@BoredInNW6 clearly some engineers like to game too ;)
People must buy this
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I work in remote locations for a couple months at a time, and I travel there by air. So I need to a pack a gaming rig into carry on luggage. Once I'm on location it sits on my desk and doesn't move until I head home again. That's why I like these desktop replacement, large screen, laptops.
As a freelance developer that works all over the country (UK) away from home, I have a laptop like this (and multiple USB screens) so I can have several VM servers, multiple instances of VS & SSMS running along with running automated tests while I continue to work without having to wait. ..also so I can game in the pub wherever I find myself when not working.
Have a friend that's in the navy that owns something like this for when he's on a ship/moving about and still wants desktop level performance.
Man the navy must be paying real well lately
I've been looking at things like this for a similar reason recently. Moving out to Korea where I'll be in dorms for a year and this'd be way easier than my current computer to take out there
Yeah, these desktop replacement laptops were very common/popular in the Navy (and I'm sure other branches as well). I remember there being at least a half a dozen ROG beasts in my division when I was in. It's small enough to store in a locker for safe keeping when underway, and battery life isn't a big deal sitting in a lounge. It's not the most fun to haul around, but it's not too big of a deal.
@@alolanstarboy for some jobs, they'll offer a re-enlistment bonus of >$90k, and a lot of sailors have minimal bills
@@alolanstarboy lol also because they pretty much have nothing to spend on, unless they have a family to support.
I work in live A/V production, and having a portable powerhouse that can handle all my streaming, recording, media production, and related workloads while working anywhere anytime is key to my job. The impressive IO these machines tend to have also contributes to their advantage in the field.
I need it because I will be going into the A.I. industry and having something that can do anything that I can bring with me to school is very useful
The eluktronics Thic only needed a single power brick and was 2.5kg for a 15 inch size. That is very portable for a desktop replacement, and needing only 1 powerbrick makes a bigger difference given that the laptop itself is already heavy. As you said there is indeed demand for these type of laptops, I hope they release a newer edition supporting zen 3 processors and RTX 30 GPUs
"Why do you need...?"
I have a laptop that has a high-powered CPU and graphics card. Why? I alternate my time between a number of locations and need that kind of power to do video editing.
Actually, I think the device you show above is overkill even for me, but I can see other folks who might need it. Why buy several high-end desktops when you can carry your device from location to location?
Same. My machine is a gaming laptop, but it's way overkill for the games I play. I need that much power for blender and CAD work. I think of it less like a laptop and more like a gaming all-in-one with a keyboard that folds out.
if i have a lot of money i could see myself buying this just to feel good
It's all fun and games until you accidentally drop it
@@thanos5171 Or snap it out of existence....
Wouldn't it be better to remote into a desktop, with a thin and light laptop with internet? Latency should be acceptable if not for gaming
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There, a better title.
Seems like they actually used it lol
@@danielfernandes1010 I'm officially 4 parallel universes ahead of LMG.
@@TheBigAEC indeed.
People MUST buy being these!?
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Well this is exactly what I like. I still play with my G50V on trips. Granted it's older games, but my desktop weighs about 25-30 lbs I feel like. This would be nice to take on trips, or even to a LAN party.
Just ordered, guess we will see how it goes.
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Engineers “this good?”
Contrary to what you may believe, jet engines would not be very good at cooling.
Contrary, your sense of humor is lacking.
It doesn't sound like a jet engine at all actually. Mostly you just get a nice low whoosh of air.
@@isodoubIet bro it’s a joke since jet engines are loud. That’s the joke.
@@StormTheFur I get the joke, but I'm just saying this guy actually isn't that bad. The alienware m17r4 I owned for about a week was thin and sexy but sounded MUCH worse.
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This is too true
It’s because it’s a sponsor they can’t fully trash talk it. (Well that is my guess lol)
Peaked at 99c too! So I imagine it thermal throttled.
For a full desktop processor inside a laptop that is actually very respectable especially if its 11900k
$5,000 laptop that thermal throttles lolz. Also the still at 2:33 shows core and ring are currently temp limited.
I'm using the msi titan gt80 2qd you reviewed in 2015 I believe. Chungus of a laptop at just under 10lbs, basically that era's desktop replacement and I love every bit of it. I use it as my primary gaming device, got 3 mini display ports on it and an HDMI, so if the default monitor isn't my thing I got options. I carry from my room where I game to the living room where I use it for D&D, to work where I use it for spreadsheets (and also show my boss random cool shit I can make it do) and most of all it's a LAN party guy's dream. Not as much a pain in the ass as a full on tower/monitor combo, but still beefy enough to contend with them (at least back when this was released). Overall, I really think if I buy another laptop it'll be another desktop replacement.
I was a ski instructor. Often live in a place for 4-6 months. This is exactly what I would be looking for