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Burn Gorman was diagnosed with Villain Face and Bad Guy Name early on in his life, but he makes the best of it
He was outstanding in Torchwood
he played the most innocent lovely British officer in a show called Turn about the revolutionary war, but yea, he has good mean face, he played the rebellious nights watch guy in game of thrones as well, he was a fucking legend of gin alley
Yeah… he’s just got that kind of face.
😉
He was good in Pacific Rim too. He was okay even in the shitty sequel to that movie.
@@Atheos1 Indeed! I never expected to like Turn much when my GF suggested it... but it was great!
I think the thing you keep forgetting about Amos is that he kills for pragmatic reasons and not so much out of emotion. He wanted to kill Clarissa not because he was angry but because he felt she would not be grateful for the mercy and would continue to come at them (I can't remember the exact quote he said to Anna but it was something like "this one will not be grateful"). So rather than be looking over your shoulder, you remove the threat and move on. I believe he saw that Clarissa had truly given up and was no longer a threat to Amos or those that he feels he needs to protect so he is capable of moving past his reasons to kill her.
She was a good mechanic. She had value to Amos and the ship.
Naomi getting super offended at being told her thinking is "terrestrial" is a great touch
The original actor for Arjun had a scheduling conflict, so they had to recast. I did like the original Arjun better as well.
Bobbie taking out those people was a beautiful fight scene. It showed Martian Marians do NOT need Power Armor to kick butt.
I really like that you adore Chrisjen as much as I do! That voice! That hair! Those clothes! The constant swearing! xxx
And they toned DOWN her language for tv 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Medina Station and Salvage Rights. From the backchatter in S2 and 3, we know that the Mormons filed some kind of a claim against Fred Johnson and Tycho Station. Meaning, they got some kind of insurance or lawsuit settlement/process going. That means that the Mormons legally claimed the Nauvoo as a loss and legally gave up their claim on the vessel in exchange for the payout on the insurance and lawsuits.
Then Fred Johnson sent the Tycho Crew to recover the ship itself as legitimate salvage. Tycho and the OPA have a claim because they paid for that ship, theoretically, with the legal action against them by the Mormons. Abandoned vessel, floating in space, paid for by the OPA funds... recovered by the OPA forces... for a ship whose original owners ceded ownership claim AND had all that time to mount any salvage expedition of their own, but did not... The Behemoth was legitimate salvage before she went to the Ring.
And then inside Abbadon's Gate, the Behemoth showed the inherent value in a ginormous space station vessel with spin gravity, and Medina Station was born. Fully under OPA control and legitimate salvage for Tycho Station and Fred Johnson. Thus Carmina Drummer is still in command of it because it was her command from Salvage to Gate to begin with.
The Mormons should thank Fred Johnson for stealing the Nauvoo from them. They'd be a few months into their interstellar journey and get the message to turn around and come back because we just found 1300 shortcuts.
While it is possible that any sort of three-way settlement could be reached, the way insurance usually works is that the insurance company denies the claim, but assuming it actually pays it, or some portion of it in a settlement, the Mormons would have to sign over the rights to the lawsuit they would have against Tycho Station as part of the insurance settlement, and the insurance company would then pursue Tycho station for damages.
Legitimate salvage? I think not. You cannot steal a spaceship, then dump it when it is no longer of use to you, then claim it as legitimate salvage when you were the entity which 100% caused the theft and abandonment which led to the need for a salvage operation.
The real reason that the OPA holds the Behemoth is simply brute force. No court officer with a writ could serve that writ on Drummer and have her hand over the helm to him due to that piece of paper. No OPA court would issue that writ. No Belter would pay any attention to a writ from a UN court.
@@Yesquire0 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that, in the books, the lawsuit was ongoing during the events in the Slow Zone but was dropped when the Mormons decided to go through the rings instead.
the Nauvoo was stolen.
Without spoiling anything, all I can say about Murtry right now is the following: Amos found the detonator at the landing pad, so we know Murtry didn't plant it. Amos assessed that someone had blown up the landing pad; Murtry agreed with that assessment. The only people on Ilus before Murtry's ship attempted to land were Belters. Ergo, someone among the Belters planted those explosives and killed Murtry's people.
Now imagine that the same thing happened to the Rocinate when they landed. Imagine Naomi had been killed and Rocinate destroyed.
Murtry has every right to feel threatened and be pissed off at and untrusting of the Belters.
This. That Murtry goes about it entirely the wrong way can at this point be attributed to emotional distress and potential PTSD from a near-death experience, but his logic is sound.
He has every right to feel threatened, and pissed off, yes. He has no right to kill anybody. He doesn’t just get to decide that somebody dies because he’s mad.
@@funnylilgalreacts If he’s in charge of security, and has a legal charter from the UN, doesn’t he kinda have that right? If he feels a violent threat was made?
But why does the UN decide anything about a planet in a completely different system? That reach is ridiculous. Why should Belter's uphold UN charters? I'd fight for my new home, that includes unwelcome guests.
@@funnylilgalreacts Oh no I agree that the UN shouldn’t decide that. But with the laws as they are currently the Belters have no actual legal right to that planet, and the UN science team does. I’m assuming there was a treaty of some kind drawn up where there’s a legal process to go through in order to claim land in ring systems. The belters obviously couldn’t do that, but no one would bother bothering them until now.
I’m no on Murtry’s side, but I think he does have the right to defend the charter his team was granted.
6:20 - Now you mention it, it is kind of moving and even beautiful to watch you experiencing this for the first time, but thats why we watch!
#WeAreAllBobbieAndNaomi
I love Burn Gorman. And he plays Murtry SO WELL. Like all the Expanse antagonists, even though he's bad, his actions and decisions are totally believable from his POV.
In light of what happened, I'll never understand why people call him bad. He was a leader looking out for his people who got pushed into doing some very mercenary things later. If anything, the hatred towards him was irrational and stupid.
You've already heard about Marco Inaros. Once in Episode 1x03 when Lopez was interrogating Naomi and once in episode 2x02 when Fred Johnson was organising belters to raid Thoth Station.
Notice that when in space, Chrisjen wears trousers. A Sarong or dress would be a nightmare in low or zero G. 🤔😲🤣
I would too 😂
@@funnylilgalreacts wear trousers? Or be a nightmare in zero G? 🤭
@@aartsst3227 She can be both... 🤭
Definitely BOTH LOL
@@funnylilgalreacts 😂👍🏻
It reaches out , it reaches out, it reaches out , it reaches out - 113 times a second.
Nothing answers , and it reaches out .
It is not conscious , though parts of it are.
There are structures within it that were once seperate organisms , aboriginal , evolved and complex.
It is designed to improvise , to use what is there and then move on... good enough , is good enough .
And so the artifacts are ignored or adapted , the conscious part try to make sense of the reaching out , try to interpret it.
One imagines an Insects leg , twitching , twitching , twitching . One hears a spark , closing a gap , the ticking is so fast.
Another, oblivious, re-experiences her flesh falling from her bones, the nausea and fear and begs for death, as she has for years now.
Her name is Maria.
It does not let her die, it does not comfort her , it is unaware of her, because it is unaware, but unaware is not inactive, it finds power where it can, nestled in a bath of low radiation, tiny structures , smaller than atoms, harvest the energy of the fast moving particles that pass through it ..subatomic windmills.
It eats the void , and it reaches out , it reaches out, it reaches out .
In the artifacts that are conscious, memories of vanished lifes still flicker .
Tissues that were changed without dying , hold the moment that a boy heard his sister was leaving home .
They hold multiplication tables , they hold images of sexuality and violence and beauty , they hold memorys of flesh that no longer exists, they hold metaphors , mitochondria , starfish , hitlers brain in a jar , hell realm.
They dream.
Structures that were neurones twitch and loop and burn and dream.
Images and words and pain and fear.
Endless.
An overwhelming sense of illness, an old mans remembered voice whispering dry words that it is unaware of.
Full, fathom, five, thy father lies, of his bones are coral made .
If there had been a reply, it could end, if there had been anyone to answer, it would have come to rest like a marble at the bottom of a hill , but nothing answers.
The scars know that no answer will ever come .
But the reflex triggers , the reflex triggers , the reflex - and it reaches out .
It has solved a billion small puzzles already , a cascade of reflexes.
It has no memory of having done so , except in its scars.
There is only reaching out , delivering the message that its task is complete.
Nothing answers and so it cannot end.
It reaches out.
It is a complex mechanism for solving puzzles using what there is to be used .
Those are pearls that were his eyes and so, it has the Investigator.
Of all the scars, there is one that came last , that is most intact , it is usefull and so it is used.
It builds the Investigator from that templet , unaware that it is doing so and tries another way of reaching out.
And something answers, something wrong and foreign and aboriginal, but there is an answer.
So over the course of years it builds the Investigator again and reaches out.
The investigator becomes more complex.
It will not stop until it makes that final connection and it will never make that final connection .
It stretches, tries new combinations, different ways to reach out, unaware that it is doing so, unaware that it exists.
Empty .
Except in the insignificant parts.
The insectile leg will twitch forever.
The scar that wails for death, will wail forever, the Investigator, will search forever, the low voice, will mutter forever.
Nothing of him doeth fade, but suffers a sea change, into something rich and strange.
It reaches out .
On Amos' new friend (Chandra Wei): it's kinda startling just how many actors have appeared on both The Expanse and Letterkenny.
That’s Canadian casting and production for ya. Kim’s Convenience and Schitt’s Creek also have a fair amount of overlap
Someone also said Robin from The Boys, which blew my mind
@@funnylilgalreacts Yep, that's her. She was only in the Boys for a pretty short minute though. :(
@@funnylilgalreacts Holy crap, I had no idea, now my mind is blown too! Kinda appropriate for the boys :)
She looked so much younger as Robin.
OMG, i watched the expanse when it aired, and watched letterkenny a couple years ago. didn't even realize... to be fair (👀), there was a larger gap and they are completely different types of characters/shows... lol
Nice to see you're still keeping Shed in your heart this far into the show. I think he's long forgotten by most people at this point.
I think Chrisjen knew the position Bobby was in and wanted to help her stick it to them like she would. Chrisjen is all about power moves, but Bobby really just wants to keep her head down and to get on with her life. She's not trying to make waves and climb any ranks. If Bobby has a problem with someone, she punches them in the head.
Really gotta feel bad for Alex in this episode. Not only does he find out that the woman he was interested in is married, but he's found himself caught between keeping vital information about Naomi from Holden and upsetting Naomi. He's gotta decide between pain now or pain later.
I loved the moment where Miller described the dead on Eros. Their essence trapped inside with him.
So devastating.
The old woman singing her wedding song always gets me.
Amos/Clarissa, You have to remember back to the scene where Holden held a gun to Amos' head. And seconds later Amos was laughing it off like nothing happened. And I I suspect Anna was on the ship then as well. So who knows what influence she had there.
I think my favorite part of the reactions is when she does her beast growl at the end.
😂😂
In case no one has mentioned, make sure to watch the season 6 mini episodes at the end of each main episode.
The what now?
@@Mankepanke Season 6 has mini episodes that were filmed in addition to the regular episodes.
Great reaction! Honestly I never warmed up to Clarissa/Melba/Peaches, even after reading the books.
And I think that was the same hat Alex wore in the very first episode. It looks good on him.
The Amos thirst gets me every time. You're gonna love watching through Ty & That Guy (though to avoid occasional spoilers, I'd wait to start it until you've finished S5)
No one likes Murtry, but try to ask yourself in every scene with him if hes wrong. The answer is almost always no.
Bobbie's arc this season is really good.
My family has been camping at the same site for the past ten years. It's a 150 year old cabin called Draper cabin. I'm going again in two weeks. I've already printed out a picture of Bobbie Draper that I plan to hang there. It's about time it had a face. My brother and my best friend and I have all read the entire Expanse series.
I can't think of another show that gives me the sense of confusion in the face of the vastly nonhuman like The Expanse does.
There's a touch of deep time here, of timescales where 'life evolved from cells to plants long after these machines were built'. That's just... brain melt.
You: I'm a good judge of character.
Me: You didn't like Miller at the start
...
Miller wasn’t a good guy at the start…
@@funnylilgalreacts and Holden
Oh the theories…😁
Half the fun of watching this again is remembering where I thought the show / story was going at this point… & where it actually ends up… 🚀
- I didn’t really care for the Amos / Clarissa friend thing - but I think he sees a damaged person who is in need of some help/ guidance like he received in his past. It’s a sign of his growth that made an effort to help her…
2:00 Oye, you did get it correct, welcome to the belt
Holy Moly, an hour?! Hah. Angela brain full, talk long, much wow.
_WARNING:_ If you haven't already found out, Security Chief Murtry's character is somewhat divisive among the fandom. His actions seem to fall along certain lines which divided many during the George Floyd era. Ergo, there are some very passionate opinions about his actions, which tap into some real-world politics.
Debates have gotten heated. Chart your own course but _caveat emptor, Imperatrix._
On another note, the settlement on Ilus, as most fans already know, was a purpose-built and rather functional set. Production decided they wanted the equivalent of a standing set for all the filming we did, so showrunner Naren Shankar made us go to New Terra and build it. 😉
Probably the coolest set I've ever been on, IMO, because we had actual storage and shelter in the structures. It was 360° picture-friendly. It was our own little space-frontier town! And while we were there [REDACTED FOR, uh, REASONS].
(The commute to and from New Terra / Ilus was pretty crazy, though. Racked up lots of frequent ring-gate transit points.)
EVERYONE liked the original actor for Arjun better. But Brian George needed work when The Expanse was cancelled, so he'd gotten another gig. They learned a lesson about adjusting the story to keep their popular actors continuously on contract. That's probably part of the reason they took the novella of Bobbie's activities on Mars and wedged into book 4...otherwise the Draper character would not have appeared in this season.
You knew something wasn't right with Leelee when she swept across the frame. Most people don't see that.
When Bobbie got the cold shoulder from those two martian officers, they gossiped that she was the one who "got our team on Ganymede killed."
Avasarala isn't at her best as a politician. She's really on her own soil as a savvy bureaucrat.
Nearly every season basically has a sex scene and a "toss your popcorn" scene.
Yes, they recast Chrisjen's husband. Brian George is a busy working actor and was just not available.
2:43 - I love that you're already calling Murtry "Murty" given that Amos is going to spend this entire season intentionally calling him by the wrong name just to piss him off :D
Hey there! been watching your reactions lately, fantastic work and love the pre and post episode analysis, love the shirt!
More seasons definitely aren’t impossible! Their contract with Amazon ends if Amazon doesn’t renew within two years after production ended on season 6. I believe that’s within a year from now. After that, Alcon will be able to move should they so choose. (I’m thinking HBO max) Will it happen? I don’t know, but definitely not impossible
There has been some rumblings about doing a film, as in movie theater film.
@@putinscat1208 Season 3 of Warrior just wrapped filming about 10 days ago.
The last place we want it to go is HBO Max now that Time-Warner is owned by Discovery Networks.
I've heard that they are pitching doing the three remaining books with a limited time jump, so three years instead of thirty but there are also rumors that the show runners are amongst the people pitching for a new Stargate series. We'll see what happens.
I'll be interested to hear (at the end of the season) your theories on what this planet did / used to do.
I can't remember if the show ever declared it at all, or if it's just left ambiguous.
The books explained it, but I won't spoil it here for obvious reasons.
It's an amusement park.
I love how alien they make Ilus look.
The Mormons did file a lawsuit against Fred Johnson and Tycho Station over the ship. I don't recall any outcome, but it was mentioned in a prior episode that they sued over it.
the ever changing of names for marty/murtie/murt/etc. i love how amos teases him, sort of exposes his personality for total seriousness and need for control, but at the same time, 23 people from his team were murdered, he is the head of security for the scientific team, they found proof it was a bomb set by the belters, at this point i don't hate mcmarty, i kind of hated that belter shit talker more
You are 100% nailing it with your use of "sassake."
I love the actor that plays Bobbie Draper. The one thing that changes how the interactions go with her in the books is her size. She is a big, buff badass. In scenes like this, the integrator should be given more credit for talking to someone who could literally snap them in half with such disdain.
I like that the leader of the belters is an indigenous woman. It underlines the theme of colonialism because if there’s a group of people who know what it’s like to get kicked off their land by government sanctioned colonists with land claims it’s the indigenous peoples of the world
I liked the original Arjun too, Julian Bashir's dad! (among many other roles)
I'm sorry to say that I didn't notice the absence of Brian George as Arjun Avasarala the first time I watched the show but according to Google he didn't come back because he got other roles and his schedule just didn't have room.
Wow! Your intro is simply aww inspiring! With the theories and analysis 👀, but very nostalgic!
You're right, there was alot happening in this episode! I wish there was something constructive I could add to your reaction to this episode but You're so damn smart so all I can do is enjoy watching your journey!
Looking forward to the next one!
As a world builder, I was so excited to see a new world in this setting. The possibilities were (pardon the pun) Expansive.
Your preamble is often longer than many complete reactions videos!
Not that I mind, but I do appreciate the chapter links, so thanks, Xander! ;-]
Angela does the chapters!
"Marty, Marcos. I am not sure who I am going to dislike more."
Marco. 100%. Marco. Trust me.
The Miller/Investigator is described in the books much better than they do in the series but think of the protomolecule as part of an integrated computer program that needs answers to things it doesn't understand. It looked inside its own program and found the consciousness of Miller that it had absorbed. It saw him as the perfect tool to discover things it doesn't know since that was his job, he was an investigator. So it basically created a subroutine called the investigator but it keeps evolving and Miller's personality keeps altering it much as artificial intelligence would evolve so whenever the investigator evolves too far and starts to become too much like Miller it gets destroyed and recreated back to the baseline. In the books, it said that happened thousands of times.
Yeah, no one likes the new Arjun :)
Minor expanse humour - In one of the closeups Chrisjens Hand Terminal has two entries, "Arjun 1" & "Arjun 2" :)
😂😂 I don’t hate the guy, but I miss the other guy
It’s a shame, I think Michael Benyaer has a lot to offer the role, but he has none of the warmth Brian George does and the contrast is really jarring
@@funnylilgalreacts in the Ty & That guy podcast - Wes often refers to this Arjun as Avasaralas second husband…. 😁
Her “1st husband” was such a caring supportive guy - his line “why did I marry such a great woman” guts me every time.
Second husband is a good guy, great actor- but I just didn’t feel the chemistry like I did with Brian George.
Nice shirt!!! Went straight to Amazon to order it!
(edit: please excuse the bad joke in the beginning here; I get it if it's a little too annoying by now. In fact this whole comment is pretty repetitive I realize now, but I'll leave since there are some good replies)
For real, you have to stop being so jealous of Clarissa! 😄But seriously, it’s true she wasn’t the most fleshed-out character. But like I wrote on the last video, Amos saw someone like himself - a killer - managing to find her own morals and act on them to _save_ everyone. Amos still hasn’t quite found an internal moral compass, and looks to others for that, so no wonder he’s intrigued. Besides, he was ready to kill her, and even told Anna that Clarissa was irredeemable and unrepentant - and he was wrong.
Amos was also intrigued by Cortazar who, sort of like Amos, lacked empathy. But where Cortazar is physically unable to regain it, Amos might not be, and Clarissa is proof that it’s possible for some.
Also, fair to say that that the actress was erratic in Season 3, sometimes she nailed it, over moments were definitely off. But maybe she didn't have the best material to work with compared to the season regulars.
@@blackpaw29 Agreed on both counts. For a lot of it, there wasn’t even another actor for her to play off of, which no doubt made it a harder task. A lot of it is just her, on her own, doing bad stuff. Not a lot to work with. It’s not even the usual villain/hero thing, where one can be a foil to the other, because Holden hasn’t got a clue who Clarissa is.
I think they're both broken people, and Amos is the kind of person that understands that it's no one's fault.
@@zachgaskins3731 that is way more succinct than my version 👏
Age of the structures / life:
There was some kind of original life on the planet when the protomolocule/builders arrived, and wiped it out / converted it for their own use, built the structures etc.
Then something wiped out the protomolocule builders / civilisation and all went quiet for billions of years, during which new life evolved on the planet.
So yes, the structures are older than the life that's now on the planet.
And Miller is still trying to find out what happened to the builders. Searching for clues in the leftover protomolocule tech (looking for the files / records)
38:00 Last season Holden called the opening of the Ring Gates "the start of a new blood soaked Gold Rush".
Amos is just following suit.
In the Old West cowboys rarely had any real currency such as coins, but they had plenty of bullets. So they bartered a bullet for A SHOT of whiskey. Hence the term! ^_^
You say social dynamics at the camp, but really it’s more colonial dynamics. Murtry is for all intents and purposes the white colonialist with nothing but disdain for the "native savages". He even keeps referring to his (by Inners, for Inners) legal charter to exploit the resources. He would have no compunctions about murdering them on a good day, but he’s not having a good day. As has been said, this season’s a western, and Murtry would loooove to subject the Belters to a trail of tears or some smallpox blankets. Bullets work too, tho.
25:15 You're the first reactor that notice her right away. I'm impressed.
46:00 What The conversation means was there was an original biome before the protomolecule came, then the proto came , hijack them to make all those structure (and probably caused a huge mass extinction) . After the Builder and their Proto ,died life evolved back again. The suddenly the the ring gates reopened and humans came to that planet.
@@remliqa Not just the structures on the planet but also the ring gate for that system. This planet is an example of what was supposed to happen to primordial Earth if Phoebe had hit it as intended and not been caught in the gravity of Saturn (in real life Phoebe is actually thought to not be a natural moon of Saturn but rather a captured moon that originated in the Kuiper belt).
@XanderWhat Thanks for removing the spoilery comments.
@all People, really, please. Telling that some character will become important or some name or detail should be remembered is spoiling. Just don't do it. Why is this so hard?
So you finally learned how to pronounce "Behemoth" when it was renamed. LOL 😂
Nancy Gao is right to try to send out people through the rings, even if its dangerous. Nio risk, no win.
Donkey balls. My take on Amos, he's a stoic, logic and reason are more important then emotions when making a decision. Just saying, also I total ship you and him.
Xander, you're awesome. You two are a great team. Who else do you edit for?
The biome grew over the "protoplanet.", the planet owners died many many years before.
This season i m in for Bobbie... The way she wrecked those drug dealers.... class 🤣
This show does so many things so well. One thing they truly excell at are cliffhangers. At least you can binge. It sucked waiting.
16:17 “He had no problem holding a gun at her”
I mean Amos never really has a problem with killing anyone sans the Roci crew. He’s basically the most pragmatic person in the solar system.
What's going on, on Illus, is a little more clear in the books.
The protomolecule ring-builder system arrived in that system, at some point in the distant past, and hijacked the developing life, there, just as it tried to do in our own Solar System.
Then, whatever happened to its creators happened, and the rings got closed, and the machinery on Illus slowly shut down.
While everything was turned off, a second set of biological organisms (or remnants of the first) evolved on Illus, and its evolution has been trucking along for at least a billion years.
So, you have the ring-builder system, in place, and then the subsequent evolution of new life forms in and around the ruins of that old system.
Now, people from the Solar System have arrived and introduced terrestrial biology into complex strangeness that was already there.
That's why Dr. Okoye said there's no way to know how that interaction will play out.
It's, basically, applied chaos theory.
Burn Gorman is a good antagonist. His role in GOT as Karl Tanner is so much like Murtry 😅
I think they needed to hang a lampshade on the Arjun recasting. It took me a minute to realise he was her husband. And another to realise he wasn't a second husband.
👍🏽Given! Are you going to continue/complete your "Andor" reaction series? 🤔 Please?
Yes! I plan on doing the rest!
Here's how the timeline of the planet has been described (in the show to this point, no book knowledge):
1. A billion+ years ago a protomolecule probe arrives in the system and finds a planet teaming with bacteria, it uses this raw biological material to construct machines and, eventually, a ring gate (I don't think that part is mentioned, but it's pretty obvious that it would have had to have happened).
2. Meanwhile the native life on the planet continues to evolve. This is one of the three biomes Okoye was talking about.
3. (I don't think it's explicitly stated, so this might just be my assumption) The protomolecule builders arrive and set up a new civilization on a planet which has its own native life. This is the second biome.
4. The protomolecule builders are wiped out in some as yet unexplained cataclysm and the ring gates are closed in an attempt to stop the cataclysm from spreading.
5. Seasons 1-3 occur, ending with the opening of 1300 new worlds.
6. The Barbapiccola, full of Belter settlers arrives, thus adding the third biome.
7. Season 4 occurs.
20 min intro, that down time really did recharge your batteries!
I want to talk about Peaches, but I can't yet. Answers will come.
Some of the upcoming camp interactions are so good, can not wait until you get to them.
Finally the Expanse/Breaking Bad crossover I didn't know I needed!
I feel like this show has so many more sub-plots than any series I've ever watched. Yet somehow it isn't hard to keep up with what's happening.
Nice shirt. ❤️
Wait what's the BrBa crossover here? Must of missed that.
The only links Ive known about were Jonathan Banks for the pilot in Season 1 and Sandrine Holt in Season 5. (Which is a BCS connection anyway.)
@@scottwatrous Drug cooks made me think of Breaking Bad. Lol.
@@charlie53echo oooh that makes sense. I wasn't even thinking of that but makes sense now.
My favorite character at this point is the mysterious hidden threat. Also Bobbie.
I'm generally a big fan of the adaptation of book 3. I'm extremely curious to hear your thoughts about the adaptations, should you wish to share them after reading the books. But Clarissa/Melba was definitely shortchanged by it. I wouldn't say she's necessarily more sympathetic, but she's more understandable and you get a better feeling for how the events of the story are effecting her.
Sorry for the mostly unrelated post! OMG so excited!
I'm so excited... just heard that Mark Fergus (the man responsible for adapting the Expanse books to this Live Action show) may very well be the person who will be responsible for the new Stargate series!!!
Yayyyyyyyy!!!!
I'm guessing Bobbie yanking Leelee up by the hair after that fight spawned a bit of fanfic
There is so much that I want to say regarding the character of Clarissa Mao, however, just about anything that I might say would likely get me blasted of "spoilers," so I shall not.
Much appreciated
You said you always look for the good in people. So did Anna and she found it really hard to care for Clarissa. So I can totally see why you are struggling. I didn’t care much for her either.
But Murty, I hate Murty.
He's a PRICK and thats being generous LOL.
Between Amos and Anna I have to believe there's something redeemable about Clarrisa
Peaches redeems herself in the end. And the most important aspect of that is she was TRULY remorseful for her crimes. And even though she only served a portion of her sentence, the punishment they were handing down to her was, quite literally, inhumane torture. She paid for her crimes.
There are plenty of reasons to read the books but for me the biggest reason is that we learn a lot more about the protomolecule and and its creators.
You’re right you’re lucky that you can just binge the show. We had to wait about a year and a half from when Amazon saved the show until it was finally shown! After this season you should watch the trailer for season 4. It’s great and I remember how excited everyone got when we actually got to see new stuff and the roci crew again 😊
Season 4 was quite pivotal with key future plot points established. but it doesn't really draw you in until the last couple of episodes. The Mormons are upset about the Nauvoo, but true to Mormon form the lawyers are on the job.
I absolutely adore Burn Gorman (the actor who plays the character Murtry). He was in a couple episodes of Game of Thrones (you may know him from there), he had a comedic role in Pacific Rim, and he had a very large, and amazing role in the Doctor Who spin off show, Torchwood. I freakin' love that guy. And yes, he generally plays pieces of shit. But I still really like the character Murtry.
Comedic role!? I haven't watched Pacific Rim....now I want to LOL
@@funnylilgalreacts Yeah, it's kinda weird. But it was the highlight of the movie for me (I was like... one of only 4 people that didn't seem to like it much). His comedic buddy is the actor Charlie Day from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, too. I'm not normally one for comic relief, but I enjoy both of those actors, and think they did a "good enough" job with what they were given.
Clarissa already helped to save mankind and regrets her revenge plans and pays the price for her deeds in prison. It only can gu up from there
Fight it all you want, you'll love Peaches.
Murty's name is Adolphus Murtry. Let that sink in...
And it is technically pronounced Mur-tree. But in this one case I think most people will agree its fine to pronounce it however you want. My personal favorite is Morty.
Amos is purposefully mispronouncing his name just to fuck with him.
I have a sneaky suspicion the writers saw the Dennis Quaid movie Undercover Blues and loved it as much as I did. There's a character who calls himself Muerte, and our two heroes just refer to him as Morty the whole time just to annoy him.
What a great shirt
People that say something like "You're going to love Clarissa" should be hit with the banhammer. That is spoilers and totally unnecessary. People would rather feel like knowledge givers than accept the fact that the thing they purport to have respect for will deliver itself. FFS, ban them!
I removed as many as I could catch, but she's seen them by now, so unfortunately that cat is out of the bag.
@@XanderWhat You do a fantastic job Xander. I'm frustrated by people that still don't understand spoilers or how to reign themselves in for the greater good! GAH!
so many people only see spoilers as something other people do. "You spoil, I make fair comment "
Re: Bobbie and Chrisjen. I agree that Chrisjen should have considered more how the invitation to dinner would have looked from the Martian point of view, but I think she honestly didn't think of it that way. She really did see it as giving Bobbie a boost - showing people that she had friends in high places. That's the kind of political capitol that Avasarala lives and breathes, and exactly the kind of gift she'd be able to parlay to better her own position. But Bobbie is a Martian, and even more importantly, a Marine. She's not dumb but she doesn't play those kinds of political games - in fact she hates those kinds of games. As a Marine she was willing to give her life for a higher purpose. For most of her life that purpose was the Dream of Mars, and loyalty to Mars and solidarity with other Martians was everything to her. For her, at this point, as much as she may like Avasarala personally, and knows that she acted correctly both in her original defection and inside the ring space, that relationship is still an uncomfortable reminder that she does have loyalties outside of Mars. And while Avasarala is simply too much of a political animal to ever really be bothered by what other people (with the possible exception of Arjun) think of her, outside of how it helps or hurts her politically, Bobbie actually does care. Bobbie has too much strength and conviction to let it actually keep her from doing what she thinks is right or necessary in a given situation, but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt when the people she did it for think of her as some sort of traitor. It's that "caring what other people think of her" aspect that didn't even occur to Chrisjen.
“…people screaming for a death that never comes…” the souls of the dead from Eros never actually died, they are part of the machine now…..kinda similar to the bodies buried within the Great Wall when they fell over dead from being over worked. Except what they died for in the expanse was alive so they couldn’t stay dead. How’s that for nightmare fuel.
I don't think it's a spoiler to say it but about the confusion about the pad and the bomb: their ship was attacked mid-air and they didn't use the main drive, so when they find the pad destroyed with traces of burns and explosives, it couldn't be the ship but a bomb more likely
So it doesn't mater for Murtry because their intentions are very clear, and threatening someone right after bombing, it's not something you can ignore and it's certainly not light threats so i get why he reacted this way
Why is a Lithium deposit, like the one on New Terra/Ilus, so valuable?
Lithium is rare: the universe contains Lithium at a rate of 6•10-⁷% the sun contains Lithium at a rate of 6•10-⁹%
the oceans contain Lithium at a rate of 0.000018% the Earth's crust contains Lithium at a rate of 0.0017% the human body contains Lithium at a rate 3•10‐⁶%
Interesting facts about Lithium:
Lithium is the lightest metal.
63% of Lithium was produced by way of dying low mass stars
23% of Lithium was produced by big bang fusion
14% of Lithium was produced by cosmic ray fission
Lithium is one of 3 elements produced by big bang fusion.
The others being Hydrogen and Helium
Lithium is one of three elements produced by cosmic ray fission. The others being Beryllium and Boron.
Lithium is the only element that is/was created by these three different prosses and one of two elements created by three different prosses. Helium is/was created mostly with big bang fusion 91%. While the remaining 9% was produced by means of exploding high mass stars 5% and dying low mass stars 4%.
"Behemoth / bohemeth... nobody died because I said it wrong"
Does she.... does she not remember the speed limit happened???
It's easy to get lost in the amazing storytelling and stunning visuals and forget that physics is actually a main character in this show.. that is until you get a scene with Bobbie essentially being the Martian equivalent of a superhero just because she trained for years in 1g. Sure she would've likely been able to handle them with her Martian marine combat skills regardless, but that extra little bit of her tossing them around like ragdolls is because this show actually pays attention to the science and uses it as a great piece of the storytelling process.
P.S. buckle yourself in, it's going to be a wild ride!
39:08 My first reaction to this reveal was, "Oh no, they're making orange-pineapple slushies! Damn them!"
and thats why there called shots
More seasons! More seasons! More seasons!
After you read the books, you should do reactions to them as well.
Sassa bossmang!! You Lang Belta be nominal kei? Five by five copenge!!👍
Disagree somewhat with your thoughts on Clarissa. While I do not think we are necessarily supposed to “like” her, especially in season 3, I also would not describe her as a one-note character as you have.
For one I think the show did a good job clearly showing her struggle with killing Ren. She was very much driven by revenge and, in the same way Prax did, tried to fashion herself into someone else to achieve it. Only she didn’t have an Amos there to stop her from doing something she would ultimately regret.
And while yes the writers show she has “daddy issues” so to speak I think it is a bit reductive to boil her motivations down to that entirely. I have always interpreted Clarissa as wanting to prove to herself more than anyone that she could be as motivated and consequential as her father and sister-two larger-than-life people who changed the world, for better or worse.
I'm eating Peach Melba right now ;) hehe
One of the things the show has to gloss over is setting up the stage for where we are in the story. The term "Gold Rush" should say it all. Thousands of worlds open all of a sudden completely changes the political landscape of the solar system. Here is where my Star Trek idealism comes in because this is a major problem of humans spreading everywhere without regard to a "Prime Directive". What Star Trek was an allegory for in the real world was the cold war and how superpowers should have a responsibilty to care for what we explore and find. When in fact like the Expanse is showing that we will go and plant our flags and claim everything is ours with no regard to indigenous life or what is going on with the protomolecule and whatever destroyed it. The book is more detailed of the time jump and the political atmosphere where the show just quickly glosses over it.
42:24 So Forced riding is a thing now. Oh dear i'm an ol' as...xennial!