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Is Isiah Thomas the most underrated player of all time?
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Definitely in the conversation. He's one of the all time greats in my opinion. Pound for pound Zeke is right there with the best all time players no doubt about it.
Moses and Isiah. Both played at positions that are historically loaded so they oftentimes get lost in the mix
Dominique Wilkins left off the 50 greatest list bottom line for me he gave everyone buckets and his best teammate was doc rivers or an old Moses malone you pick
@Alan Morales You can't rate Stockton over Isiah. The thing you must consider is if you had to build a team around either Isiah, or Stockton... who do you build around? Well clearly the answer is Isiah. And he won the titles to prove it. Stockton was one of the greatest Robin's... but he wasn't a franchise player like Isiah was. Stockton was to Malone, what Pippen was to Jordan. But no way could John Stockton be the best player on your team and lead his team over Isiah's Pistons. Isiah (19ppg 9ast) > Stockton (13ppg 10ast). Isiah is just a more complete player... higher ceiling... bigger star... better talent...
Dude Isiah beat Jordan , Byrd, and Magic and got 2 chips in the process
Legendary run like Dirks 2011 run
And it should have been 3 chips!
And Jordan overcame him and that Pistons team and swept them. While they were the reigning champions. That puts Jordan on an entirely different tier.
YOU da MAN!!! YES!
Was very close to being a 3-time Champ! Kareem hits 2 free-throws. and remember he was hurt and still gave em 30 on One-Leg!!
Nice to see him give Moses Malone, Dr. J/the Sixers some love.
Zeke is always classy and gives nothing but love and respect to his piers...people hate on him based on media narratives...the media has always hated on Isiah because he speaks the truth and challenges them to give fair assessments..and the hate that ..they have their agenda and they don't want it threatened by truth
I respectfully disagree with it about what he said about all nba players thats playing now all of them don't play the same James harden he dribbles then the step back then he launches a 3 nobody does that kevin Durant his height n his ball handling skills is so surreal idk what IT is talking about
Passing skills? Ball handling? Wilt put KD to shame. Dang you guys cause Wilt 3 inches taller.
he always does
You cant mention the Sixers without mentioning one of my favorite players Andrew Toney. He used to give the Celtics THE BUSINESS!
My dude right here Detroits G.O.A.T
This was a great interview, Isaiah Thomas is still top 50 that ever played.
Jayluv nah top 3 all time
@@chabaland He's better than Top 20 Bro. You cant name 19 players that are better than Zeke. If you really know BBall. No Disrespect.
Isiah probably a top 12 player.
you mean top 28 at worst..i have him top 24
Jayluv top 15 and perhaps the best pound for pound player ever
No one ever brings up the great Joe Dumars either.
E he was ok but not a great player in that right
@@dakingltroyproductofdade3579 I guess it depends on your definition of greatness. But I watched him every night. All-Star. All NBA defense. Finals MVP. Held the 3 point record for a few years. He was great to me. Certainly not just "ok". To me "ok" is players like Xavier McDaniel, Gilbert Arenas, Kurt Rambis, and Matthew Dellavadova.
@@eMCEe131 100
Hall of famer too.
@@eMCEe131 people are clueless
Jordan on record already mentioned that it was the Pistons who taught them how to win. He said that if they can beat the Pistons they can beat anybody. Every year it was the Pistons that they target to beat.
yep. and they almost swept the lakers after beating the pistons. also, little known fact is that during their run the pistons lost more games to the bulls than they did to any other opponent even though they beat them.
Exactly, Broussard is kissing a$$
Nathan Brewer exactly. I’ve heard Jordan say that too. And Broussard knows why the rest of the Bulls probably don’t hold the Pistons in high regards, they didn’t shake their hands when they finally won.
@@DarinAtkins ...facts
@@jameswamba4338 Well Isiah retired in 94'..... But all time Zeke's Pistons 36-29 MJ's Bull's.
Zeke was the truth and im a 90's baby, but one of my favorite performances in basketball history was his against the Lakers in the finals when he was limping and still killing, and Im a born Lakers fan but Zeke performance was amazing to me.Definitely at his size and the difference in the game with the big man being the key. Zeke and Iverson was such Giants outside they bodies.
This some G.O.A.T. knowledge Zeke dropping definitely on the he say she say stuff.... 💯💪
My favorite game also
Amazing performance. People forget or don't research. Isaiah was electrifying to watch - mentally also very tough. Do or die player like Jordan.
Yeah It was a historic performance for the ages when he did that!! I knmow that others have done this and that since then But for my money, Zeke in that series was the best performance Ever!! And I encourage anyone that hasn't seen this game, Please watch it!!
The Legendary HOFer Isiah Thomas for the longest was underrated by the uptight national media members of the past.
Now that those stiffs are retiring more and more and outa the way, a new generation of national media members are speaking the truth to the masses about the man whose early 1980s NBA dribbling was the blueprint for 1990s Tim Hardaway's killer crossover that A.I. revamped into the "Killer Crossover," leading to CP3's, Steph's, and Kyrie's ball handling that is a staple in the NBA...Isiah was rocking helpless NBA defenders to sleep with his low and quick back and forth stationary dribble be between the legs just before blowing by them decades before James Harden.
Respect this O.G.
only difference is AI carry's the ball high..that would have been a palming or carrying violation in the 80's
I don't think he was underated except for what happened on dream team but the fact is magic, Dr J, Bird, Kareem and of course Jordan were better
@@rxtsec1 it was no secret the Dream Team situation wasn't based upon Zeke being "underrated." It was known then that it was politics based upon Isiah not being liked by many in the league and media.
@@mobetta2092 that's why I said except for the Dream team. He was underated enough for them to keep him off which to this day is a crime
@@rxtsec1 that's fair... I agree with that context of the Olympic Committee underrating him
Zeke is right about the media narratives.
Paul Taylor Piston fan here, but interesting that he helps create narratives these days.
@@adgee5401 He doesn't create narratives. He analyzes the game based on having the perspective of a coach, GM, Owner, and player. You think Stephen A Smith or skip Bayless is the same as Isiah because you don't know basketball
They have people believing nobody even spoke to each other..... AAAAND PEOPLE BELIEVE IT AND REGURGITATE IT LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT THEYRE TALKING ABOUT! 😂😂😂😂
sholove Sholove I see you’re a youngin. Zeke is on record saying Lebron, Mike AND Kareem are the best players of all time. Which is it? Seems like narrative pushing to me. Again, born and raised in Detroit.
@@adgee5401 That's not a narrative old guy. That's an opinion. And if you actually LISTENED to what Isiah has said, he always says in his opinion KAREEM is the goat. Everybody else is just a formality, but he takes lebron over Jordan. That's from the perspective of a high level coach, high level GM, and an Owner. That's not a narrative goofy
My brother and I got to see him play in DC as kids all I can say is WOW!
I moved to Detroit from NY in 81 when he got drafted.I went to a game to watch him..I couldn't believe what I was seeing ..he looked like he was 12 years old and was giving the bigs the business..unstoppable seeing a little guy dominate and take over a game like no little man had ever done before..It was so inspiring for me at 5'9" to see the possiblities. He's been my No. 1 favorite player all-time ever since
Zeke & Chris brought up some great conversation pieces. The all star game, the Walk Off, and the Jordan Rules. Glad Zeke wasn't shy about talking about those moments. Pretty awesome stuff.
I could listen to Isiah talk all day. Brilliant interview. Tied with Magic for the greatest point guard of all time imo. Criminal he was left off the dream team. Loved the Wilt Chamberlain story at the end there.
yes. great interview. but the thing about the chamberlain story is this: if they changed the rules to help guards like jordan, that also includes guards like isiah although he wouldn't have benefited as much as jordan not being as athletic and being smaller than him still rules changes that benefited him too.
they leave him off the team bcuz of his team dirty plays
He was left out of the dream team for Magic, as they are two best PG at that time and all time but Magic prevailed in that choice. MJ has nothing to do with Isiah not playing for dream team you will see in the next episodes of the Last Dance, all will be explained.
Tied with magic? That pipe is damaging you senses 🤦🏽♂️
@@TheEonBlue it looks like your brain is so small no sense fits in it,if u cant realize that they came toether and vote to leave him off the team u stupid,years after when ask just to not let it look away pippen first said i didn't want him,he said i knw mj didnt want him magic once said i didnt want him,when it looks bad pippen said we didnt need him we had some good point grd already,but it was all politics,none of the greats didnt want him,and by him walk pass the bulls in 91 when the bulls swept him,jordan defenetly didnt want him on the team,and the team wasnt going let jordan walk away to choose isiah,he knows why he was left off,he knows jordan didnt like him,he is just trying to paint a narrative now so when they start talking about the dirty pistons in the documentary he is trying not to look bad,if u dont knw these tings u dont knw bball
When Stockton got picked for the dream team over Isiah..he dropped 44 and 14 on Stockton the next game..and Karl Malone gave Isiah 44 stitches
😅Facts!!
John Stockton did not replace isaiah on the dream team. Magic johnson was not a active NBA player, when he played on the dream team. magic had to get permission from David Stern, Stern had to make room. Stern didn't like isaiah. Stern also put isaiah CBA league in bankruptcy
Stockton was there no matter what. IT shouldn't have been the instigator of dirty play then walk off the court when beaten, killing his legacy.
This the stuff Skip won't talk about
Who?
@jon mar Who lies? As soon as mike had enough help he blew everyone out the water period thats a fact
@Dats a paddlin mj was drafted in 84 bruh, he wouldve had to literally win a championship every year from his rookie year to be 6 for 6 in the 80s........ Y'all really gotta use logic when throwing these crazy opinions out there
Jm j, facts. Everything from 1991- 1993...(94 & 95 never happened.) Then 96-98 was even better and everything after 99 didn't take place either.
Kalani Evans but that generation was way easier to score against than today. Look at what IT himself says in this interview? Your gonna disagree with him?
The Celtics left the court when Dantley was still on the FT line!! Oh,
but they were mostly white. And that walk-off was organized by LAIMBEER,
but Isiah wouldn't ever throw his teammate under the bus. Remember,
Isiah risked his career to defend a rookie named Dennis Rodman, who said
Isiah saved his life. Rodman said he would call Isiah at 3am, because
he was immature, young, didn't know what was going on with his head, and
how Isiah (and his family) became HIS family. Google "Isiah Thomas
Saved My Life" and you'll hear of many players who say this - Isiah just
doesn't advertise this like everyone else.
YES!
I’m glad someone said it, I hate how the media and even players try to portray Isiah as some sneaky/evil person, who was bad for the league and was such a dirty player. He was the truth and he’s very underrated because people are too busy kissing up to Jordan.
@@themoonbarbie Especially odd considering Isiah was unanimously voted PRESIDENT of the Player's Union five years in a row.
Loyal Opposition EXACTLY! seems to me that those guys were the backstabbers and not Isiah.
@@themoonbarbie AMEN!!!
This was the best interview ever Isaiah is a truth teller. I think everything he hit on was
totally on point.
Fake Newz!...
Best little man in NBA history. Leadership was his greatest talent. Won and lost to Jordan, Magic, Bird. Belongs on the 80s rushmore with them.
Absolutely!
Facts
🎯
💯
*iverson
0:49 Isiah's teeth are whiter than my white CZcams theme.
I have noticed a lot of the older guys are getting their teeth enhanced.
Million dollar smile
noticed that. perfect row of teeth. hey, if you're going to be on tv...
I wish I had teeth like his.
When you got money you can get implants for teeth. Those are not his own
Zeke was the reason I started to play, I am a MJ fan later on, but I became a scoring point guard because if Isaiah Thomas, and played this way all my local and international career. Bad Boys Forever
This is easily one of the best interviews I’ve ever watched... point blank period.
isiah thomas is the best pg in nba history. you hate him or not..give the guy his credit
@Tod Wilkinson MJ was not a point gaurd he was a shooting gaurd and the best gaurd overall in NBA history ..but he never played the point
@@vivianbutler5851 thats how u know people just following media, dont actually know anything, calling MJ a 2 😂
@Tod Wilkinson you like to argue huh ... nope..
Kdd Kdd NO DOUBT...
This was an amazing interview. He really put in perspective the league at that time from a players point of view. Wow! Brilliant how he broke down the way they defended MJ.
Tod Wilkinson what! That’s not true, they beat the same team 1 year before they won and played the Lakers... smh
I hope Michael Jordan takes it as a compliment for there to be rules just for him. No one else never had there own rules, which shows why he is the best that ever played the game
Steph has his own set of rules teams just dontb admit it
They NBA changed the rules against Wilt.
The league changed the rules for Jordan, Shaq, Kareem, and Wilt. But I was not talking about “league or regulation” rules. I was talking about rules that teams use to stop individual players. I am sure there is a game plan to stop any player, but it was more difficult to figure it out for Michael and to execute the game plan. When It came to different eras, Jordan could adapt to the league’s rules in any era.Steph would not have the three pointer in Wilt’s era, and Wilt or Kareem would not be able to stay in the box today. And if Isiah reads this message, you are the greatest point guard who played the game. Not just because you stopped Jordan, but because of your intelligence, skills and leadership all-in-one. I understand why you say Magic, but you are the One.
@@cehines7943 I agree with you except the Isaiah being the #1 PG of all time.
That's your opinion though, respect.
Wilt did
I grew up in the 80s and this interview is priceless. Brought back so much memories. Big time respect for Zeke!!
Nothing like the 1980's.
A simpler however great time in life despite Reaganomics.
ISIAH THOMAS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT DREAM TEAM PERIOD.
Meritocracy aside, I totally disagree! This guy was extremely disliked/hated by all the greats of the time that were in that dream team. Hence, if they don't want him, he can't be part of the team. Period!
@@m.d1701 The Dream Team is a collection of most talented players in the NBA.. not the most liked players in the NBA
@@maimaitobias true but we're talking about "group sport" which relies heavily on the deep chemistry of the whole group. And as such the success of the team depends heavily on the ability of the players feel for one another as much as individual talent.
Agreed and I didn't care for him
Tell it!!
I always enjoy Isiah's perspective and never ending passion for the game when he speaks about stuff. He really does deserve credit as one of the few small guys to lead a team to a championship and beating legends to get there. I really respect his student learning from the masters aspect of being in his top opponents lockers rooms and taking notes.
rash b correct me if im wrong but what Isiah did, the part where they mentioned he was at other teams locker rooms during/after games, spectating their after game meeting and all that, wouldn't that be illegal in today's league?
@@SmoovyNovaFan I don't think there rules on post game interaction with the exception of being in the locker room to recruit, or if you're in the other teams locker room uninvited. So if a guy is there to instigate, taunt or finish a fight that happened on the court earlier they get fined.
rash b i feel like if this happened in today's era, like for example when the Warriors beat the Thunder in 2016 and KD was in the locker room with the Warriors when the Cavs beat them, if somehow that got leaked there'd be some type of backlash
@@SmoovyNovaFan Ha, okay yeah when you put it like that I could see how there'd be backlash. I thought you meant league rules. Yeah the problem with using KD is he actually went to them after, lol. This is why the old school guys and some new school guys considered the KD thing so weak. Jordan, Bird and Isiah would rather die than join their rivals,. No social media back then but Isiah would've been a threat to join them.
Isiah Beat the most players on the Top 50 list... Look it up
I'm pretty sure Bird did the same as well. Bird even beat Hakeem and Sampson.
Exactly.... and little known fact: Isiah is the only member of the 50 greatest to have won 2 championships without the assistance of another 50 greatest teammate. Walton and Hakeem have 1 ring without 50 greatest assistance. Hakeem has his second with Clyde and Walton has his second with Bird, McHale, Parish and Archibald, MJ had Scottie, Wilt and West had each other, Bird had Mchale, Parish, Walton and Archibald, Magic had Kareem and Worthy, Frazier, Reed, Debusshcre had each other Russell had Havilcek, Cousy and the Jones boys..Zeke is the only one to win it big twice without a 50 greatest player alongside him
u ment beat them up in dirty plays
@@bussheadboss1681 You must love Karl Malone
u mean literally beat them up send them to hospital right???
YOU CAN TELL FROM ISAIAH'S REACTION AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS THAT HE'S STILL HURT FROM BEING PURPOSELY LEFT OFF THE DREAM TEAM.
Yeah, that clearly hurt Zeke. He definitely deserved to be on the Dream Team.
DUH... what ..... you trying da make me cry ?! lol
I'm so glad that this was finally brought up. The celitcs were just as dirty, and just as unsportsmanlike as the Pistons if not worse during the 80s
Facts! Danny Ainge, M.L. Carry, Quinn Bucker. Larry Bird, Jevin McHale are the culprits. If I missed someone
feel free to add on. 🤔
@@theblackdouglas24 Bird left with over a minute left most classless organization in sports other than the spurs
@@marqueshunter695 Don't forget Greg Kite. He used to use up 6 fouls sometimes in less than 6 minutes. He just was a guy to foul anyone.
Yes the celtics could play rough back in the 80s when needed they stole the title against the Lakers in 1984 when the Lakers seemly was going to runaway with the series because of there athleticism but Boston implemented to no layup rule.the momentum changed and they outlasted the Lakers In 7 .
@@tombrad9950 Great point! Never seen a series change momentum so quickly than this one. Celtics won Not on skill, but simply hit them in the mouth and they Lakers never responded back.
I find it sad to see Isiah argue for his own legacy. I’ve never seen another player fighting so hard to say “I was good, really, I was”...
It's sadder that he's forced to
@@anthonyclark9441 yep. You are right. I’m not a fan. Never liked the guy. But no one can deny he was good. However, he kind of did this to himself.
@@velardejl not really, but I understand why you say that. He's no Saint, he'll admit that too.
Love It! Love Isiah, Love my Bad Boy Detroit Pistons, Love hearing the stories about how the game was played in the 80's and who the Top Dogs were, and love hearing the Truth about how it all went down. Thank you Chris for doing this interview, but I am more thankful that I got to watch Isiah's whole career live and in living color back in the day.
Isiah Thomas, the Leader of the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons, Back-to-Back 1988-89 AND 1989-90 NBA World Champions!
ART my favorite game was It game 6 against the Lakers playing on bad foot geting team to game 7.I was having major problems in my life and watching them grind out against the great Lakers and Celtic.The the bulls these guys where all in the pistons sight to put down
Yes Sir!!!!!!!
Zeke was a underrated over-skilled killer; he can dribble, pass, shoot, play D, etc. Imagine if he was 6’6-6’7. To me he was the original baby face assassin (no disrespect to Curry) & unquestionably the leader of the Bad Boys Pistons. Give that man his roses💯🔥🙅🏾♂️
Darnell Jefferson well said.
He is was an on Court assassin. His mentality is that of a Kobe and MJ
Preach brother. Couldn't of said it better myself. He only got two chips but his journey to get em is nothing short of amazing
@@bigstuckey2477 2chips is amazing accomplishments. Most Hof don't even have one
@@leylandkennedy35 if Zeke was 6'6 this was be a totally different conversation
Michael Ray Richardson!! Da Sugar Man! Have not heard that name in decades! NBA TV needs to showcase some of these old games. Some of the greats of the 80s. Walter Davis, Dan Issel, Artis Gilmore...OMG!! So many greats of that era.
Sidney Moncreif, Ray Williams, Calvin Murphy etc etc
@@vivianbutler5851 definitely. Throw in Mo cheeks, Gus Williams, Phil Ford...
And Kareem, Walt Fraizer, Rick Barry, Darryl Dawkins, Moses Malone, , Bob McAdoo, John Havlicek, Elvin Haynes, etc. All ESPN and these analysts talk about are Jordan and the Bulls as if NBA only started in the 90s.
💯all of the greats in the 80’s had different styles when you think about it!
MJ, Magic, Bird, Zeke, DrJ, Barkley, Kareem, Aguirre, Dream, Moses, Cummings, etc.
Preach that real bball bro...lotta young ones have no idea fr fr...yes the game jas drasticallly changed but..you say terry cummings n ppl look at u like u crazy then they get mad wen u tell em they dnt kno bball...he was a monster in the paint n beyond respected...aguire...i think grew up wit isiah..n was a baller in Dallas....i keep tryn to tell my oldest (18)...even bad teams back then could ball fr fr...dam those were the days
I just named cummings and aguire nc they are not as popular or rwg talked about other than those who actually remember etc
No doubt @joebloe. Game recognize Game 💯
@@DSmith4ChristKC ...fax bro...salute
That game of the finals he played with only one ankle was incredible!!!
I remember watching the games late at night in Spain. Great memories of what seems another sport. Not saying better or worse, just diferent...
Great interview, Chris
Just watched a video where James Worthy is hosting and Isaiah is breaking down that game against the Lakers, it was great, can recommend.
Zeke don't get enough credit in 80s Basketball very Underrated Player one of my favorite PG of All Time Pistons Legend
My all-time favorite player! I saw him as a rookie in Atlanta and he won the game at the very end with a 4 point play. If I was starting a team, yes Isaiah would be my point guard, yes over Majic. He's also a person of substance. He slayed GIANTS!
Of all the people who say Lebron is the GOAT, Isiah is one of the few opinions I value. While I think Jordan is the best, there is no hate in Zeke. He is a champion and everything he says is legit. The media has dismissed the bad boys and its unfortunate.
Hey man, he said Kareem is the GOAT.
Isiah deserve to be on that dream team
Much respect to Zeke & the Bad Boy Pistons. Even though I hated them at one point for the way they beat up the Bulls, they still had my respect then because they were true champions that never cheated the game.
One of the REALEST interview in NBA history.
We LOVE ISIAH THOMAS IN DETROIT. ON AND OFF THE COURT.
Got to see him and the Piston’s in 83/84 when they were still playing at the Pontiac Silverdome. A couple years before Dennis Rodman and John Salley joined the team. It was quite a sight to see in person as the team got better and finally got a championship.
The most underrated player ever.
Isiah Lord Thomas the 3rd.
I always thought he was one of the greatest legends but then I saw "experts" ranking him way too low alltime given what he accomplished
@@juju-vl7oj the media always has big market bias. they be talking about the Knicks and they haven't sniffed success in years. Detroit & Isiah doesn't fit their marketing model. We would beat the Sixers, Celtics, Bulls or Lakers and the narrative would be about them. Same with Chauncey Billups when he won. All the talk was about Kobe & Shaq. It hurts the PiSTONS ability to attract talent.
This is better than the last dance. Great interview!
Yes it is and I havnt watched a minute of it lol
BIG UPS TO MY BROTHER IN CHRIST CHRIS BROUSSARD FOR SUCH A GREAT TALK WITH ONE OF THE ALL TIME HEAVYWEIGHTS.
Isiah Thomas is a treasure to the game of basketball....
Unbelievably Great.....Magic Bird Jordan Drexler all defeated by Isiah Thomas truly not appreciated enough.
"You forgot Kareem." -, Isiah Thomas
It's fine to acknowledge Isiah and give him his props. But people often use that narrative against Jordan and say Jordan only beat the Pistons and the Lakers "when they got old". Well if that's the case then those teams only beat Jordan when Jordan was young. They never make the argument the other way around. The Pistons were younger than the Celtics when they lost to them. The Bulls were younger than Pistons when they lost to them. Those teams were not direct peers. The Celtics and Lakers were direct peers at that time.
@@cyber6sapien no doubt about it... Kareem was definitely an old man. I meant that jokingly, you and I both know a younger Kareem was a completely different BEAST (but in defense of the Pistons Kareem obviously was still a problem because he was still in the finals as a starting center)
@@cyber6sapien I feel that Isiah does not get his die respect. Jordan was truly great but let's be real he lost games fell short at times in his career like every other great player. People act like he was a perfect player and you can't say anything bad about him.
@@h.s936 Ironically, Isiah's path to a championship was similar to Jordan's. They both had to build their dynasties from scratch and it took each of them seven years to accomplish it. The difference is that when Isiah won his first title, people say it was because the Pistons had arrived. It was their time. But when the Bulls won their first title, people say it was because the Lakers and Pistons had "gotten old".
Larry Bird had damaged his back by 1987. Mchale had broken his foot. Those injuries have been documented. The Pistons beat the Celtics in 1988. Magic had a hamstring injury in 1998 and Byron Scott got injured. So if anything it was the Pistons who benefited from those teams being "old and injured'. Isiah, Dumars, Aguire, Salley and Rodman were in their late 20's and early 30's in 1991and were going for the three-peat. But somehow they lost to the Bulls because they were "old".
Isiah lost to the Celtics until he figured out how to beat them. Jordan lost to the Pistons until he figured out how to beat them. But people can't seem to just leave it at that.
Best player p4p ever...Give Zeke Kareem and Worthy he'd have 5 or 6 rings too...
Did more with less talent than any of the 50 greatest players.
Great interview....Love Chris too...So glad Chris brought up the false narrative like the freeze out, and the way Pistons walked off the court which is the same the Celtics did to the Pistons but the media said nothing about it
Except for LB
John Sally mentioned it in this hip hop interview with DJ Vlad, on Vlad TV. He said the Celtics did it first
Simply great to hear IT talking about Basketball. Best pure PG in history
nah. That would be John Stockton. But isiah is a close second.
@@jrsmith1998 I beg to respectfully disagree bro. Not only great player but also great human being
@@GQuarto I love Isiah.
Stockton OBJECTIVELY, Leads all time in 2 of the 5 major stat categories! 2 feats that the guys in 2nd place in those categories are a DISTANT second. Distant.
@@jrsmith1998Bro those stats don’t matter. Isiah had the best stat. Playing and performing at the highest even it matters the most. Isiah had and would embarrass Stockton if they face in the Finals. He would win him like he did Porter in 90.
I can listen to Isiah aaaalll day!!! He's explaining everything simply so that non-basketball players can understand... I hope the can do an 1on1 about today's game
So true. The Wilt statement "right on point" how they changed the game
@@tmmitchell9541 I've literally seen online every playoff that can be found... The rules changed so that Jordan can be more dominant.. Also, they wanted to make the NBA more "Global" and they needed a face for it to happen, so the league helped him.. he honestly couldn't do it alone but need alot of other top 50 players on his team to go to the finals.. He wouldn't stand a chance against dominance of Wilt or the strength and athleticism of LeBron, or the cleverness of Bird or other greats.. That's one of the many reasons the legends before him (Kareem, Russell, Oscar, Wilt etc) don't see him as the GOAT..
BTW Kareem and many others consider Oscar Robertson goat and Oscar said that LeBron is in a category of himself in 2010!! Also, based on interviews I've seen of Wilt, by the end of LeBron's career he would consider him GOAT too..
Thanks for your comment 😁
@@xristosssoul8403 I like your point of reasoning. But to me, lebron will never be the GOAT. He chased greatness instead of letting greatness come to him. Leaving Cleveland for Miami to with a ring (yes, wade, bosh,james).lost to Dallas, then won. Leaving Miami back to Cleveland (*on win down 3 to 1) never done. Then leave for LA, but had to get help* like I said chase greatness. One thing I respect about Jordan, even though I can't stand him (another story) he stayed out and won in Chicago
As with Magic, bird,isiah,Duncan's, Kobe and more. They made greatness and did not chase it. My reason why James will never be the goat to me.
@@tmmitchell9541 I understand your point and your reasons and I love the fact that you don't say 3-6 in finals..... Most people act like losing in first or second round is better than losing in the finals.. 😂
I, personally, don't have a problem with LeBron changing teams since on every team he's been so far he's clearly the best player in that team and for 17 years.. That's crazy to me!!
This kind of mobility, which he created, has given more power to the players and taken from the owners which is what it should be from the beginning.. I watch the games for AD and LeBron, not Buss 😂😂
However, as I said I totally respect your opinion!!
I got IT as my 2nd greatest PG behind Magic..He was a killer
I wouldn't argue that. But the other baby face assassin is right there.
@@flawless39 Steph need to do more in the playoffs especially the Finals..Like Steph has not been the best player yet in a Finals. For me he has to be on that level to be with Magic and IT.
@@jayesonmack3108 I mean what you talking about. Have you seen his numbers. He's a 3x champ lol
@@flawless39 No Finals MVP..Steph has yet to be the best player on the court in the Finals..Both IT and Magic were the best players on the court when their teams won.
@@jayesonmack3108 the Magic thing is false. Because Kareem was the best player on the floor with the Lakers. If you go look at the numbers. Points and rebounds and BLK shots. So that kills your narrative. Only reason Magic won finals MVP when he had to play Center for the last game is never Kareem was out that game. Thru out the series Kareem was the best player. As far as IT. I'm sure if IT had a player like KD he wouldn't of been the best m and Steph was the best player in one of his championshipa look at the numbers. Only way Iggy got it is because he held LeBron to under 40 points. But Steph was the best player for that team that series smh 🤦🏾♂️
Everybody says the NBA is more athletic .. But its easy to look athletic when you not being beat up. How athletic would they look playing with the 80s and 90s rules? And how would players like MJ, DWilkens and Shawn Kemp look playing with todays rules?
Jayeson Mack zeke was catching tip dunks in games....this the players are more athletic means players 9-15 are more athletic than yesteryears 9-15 cuz in zeke a day MJ Clyde and Harper are the most athletic 2 guards to ever play against each other✌🏽
Jayeson Mack agreed and on another note they have been players that were not that athletic beat guys who were all time, Bird Mchale Magic Dirk Steph Jason Kidd Stockton just to name a few, with Mj it wasn’t just athleticism it was the combination of will and skill that separated him from everyone else.
@@TheRaidernation33 exactly and who did Dirk and JKidd beat lol..LBJs so called Super Team
@@mannyneva1760 Kevin Johnson and Robert Pack were very athletic guards as well. Paul Pierce and Carmelo Anthony are not athletic but were all-stars
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Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas's competitiveness still there. I can see it in their eyes
What’s a great interview. Zeke has always been in my top 2 point guards of all time
This was my favorite basketball player growing up. Always loved his mind set. Watched the whole video. Thanks chris for giving us this interview. And yes he unappreciated!!!!
Mine too...still is my No.1player alltime.....Game 6 1988 Finals 43pts 8 assist 6 steals...and a record 25 pts in a quarter on one ankle...the greatest individual gutsy performance in NBA history
I love this interview
Great interview Chris. This is for the true fans of those great NBA rivalries in the 80s. The East was a beast back then.
Best sports interview of 2020!
Zeke was great. He's a tough guy, won't back down from anyone on the court. Beat the brakes off mj's bulls.
Mentally he was the toughest.
tuff
Only a hand full of 2 day players could compete with Isiah Thomas .He went through Magic Johnson Lakers ; Larry Bird Celtics n Michael Jordan Bulls . No player 2 day could do that . Isiah is tough , ultra tough n 4 me he is top 12 best player of all time .
My favorite PG. Underrated. Highly skilled and intelligent. Tough as nails. Leader.
Yessssss ...I agree and the best ever p4p
And under 6’
pound for pound champ
He did beat the bulls, but we can agree they weren't the seasoned and polished team that the Celtics and Lakers were. Scottie and Horace were too soft and Jordan thought he could beat them by himself. We saw when the bulls came of age they waxed the pistons. It would have been nice to see if the free agent market was better then, if the pistons could have retooled and kept pace in 91 ecf
Love to see Isaiah talk man. Straight knowledge and an amazing personality. Very underrated player
As a lifetime Detroiter and sometimes fan of Detroit sports team (although not often) thanks for the extraordinary interview of the great and the loved Isiah Thomas.
Excellent interview 👍 I appreciate Isiah's perspective and insight. Extremely underated player and misunderstood.
Zeke is one of my fav basketball talking heads.
Chris,,,, I have to say... this is the best one on one interview honest open and real.... Thank you
Great job Chris!! Best interview ever!! Thank u also Zeke for being completely open.
Zeke! #!11 The Captain!
Great interview to set the record straight..I hated the bad boys but I respected their teamwork and skills
Amazing interview! Thanks IT for your inspiring words and for sharing your stories. cheers!
MOST DIRESPECTED GREAT PLAYER EVER !!
Whenever someone spews this narrative of modern players being so much more athletic; I have to ask - who's dunking from the 3pt line? Who's running a 3.5? Who's hitting their groin on the top of the backboard? Oh, these things aren't happening?? AAAAND modern players "load manage"?? Wow, such athletes. Please stop with the narrative. Human beings have not undergone some evolutionary explosion in the last 20 years.
Yeah when I watch Wilt highlights I can't even understand what's happening. He's like an alien. Athletically, he's the greatest human of the 20th century. Bo Jackson might be 2nd
The Real Danny Mullen exactly - the skill in dunking has improved but not the actual athleticism by much
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Wilt saying that to Jordan at that time is the equivalent of Jordan telling Kobe “you can wear my shoes but you’ll never fill em” after Kobe had just won 3 in a row. WOW
Kobe won 3 in a row ad option B. So it’s not the same comparison, Sir.
Thank you for doing this interview, it was needed!
Excellent interview. Broussard great as always - perceptive questions and Isiah is great to listen to. Would love to see more of these with guys from the 70s and early 80s.
This was a great interview. Isaih Thomas is in my top 15. I think any great player can play in any era. Isaih Thomas and Steph Curry are some of the NBA's greatest leaders.
Marvin M. McIntyre Zeke is the 2nd best pg all time but stuff would come off the bench in the 80’s
@@mannyneva1760 That's up for debate with me.
Zeke is modest
Steph ain't Zeke unless it's the current rules
Too fragile
Very weak mentally
Cerebral
But doesn't have the psychological stamina
Plus Steph is a pure shooter
Zeke dialed it back to facilitate
Anyone who saw him play knew he could drop 40 per game
Yes I said it
The league was totally against Zeke
I'm talking the office
They wanted the Pistons era over with to usher in the Jordan era
He wasn't Magic or Bird
So he was tolerated
That's his greatness
He doesn't mention Sidney Moncrief or Gus Williams
Be honest Zeke
Don't act like Rory Sparrow wasn't a problem
Mo Cheeks
Keep it honest
I'm definitely forgetting some guards
@@EsteemQuashIKana Steph is 6'3 190lb. Mark Price, Isaih Thomas, and John Stockton was 6'1 175-180lb. Mougsey bouges, Mike Adams, and Spud Webb are 5'8 and below. Stop with the lie about Steph being fragile.
@@EsteemQuashIKana Didn't Steph being average 30 on a box and 1 defense with elite defenders.
I watch so much ball and gather information from so many sources that I've learned that most of people's idea of the truth is skewed!
I am a laker at heart but always been a fan of zeke (Isaiah Thomas), loved the guy and after seeing this, I am an even bigger fan of him, shed a lot of light on things like the rumors from back then, kudos to Chris Broussard for doing this interview!!!
Zeke is right about how the teams back then play different styles compared to today's NBA teams.
@Tod Wilkinson i agree. Today's game is more free flowing and the rules allows them to look more athletic.
@Tod Wilkinson yup. It was too crowded in the lane bec of post plays and only guys who can really hit 3s were allowed to shoot 3s by most coaches. The approach on offense and defense were more methodical and as zeke mentioned, teams dont play the same style od basketball.
@Tod Wilkinson they are more skilled take kevin Durant come on now
Isiah Thomas was way to underrated
Class and Intelligence!! The Captain#11 Zeke!!
JJDPRO MEDIAPRODUCTION zeke was far from classy!!
@@eduardogarcia5657 I don't know why you would say that? Did you know when Zeke retired, he was part owner of the new expansion franchise The Toronto Raptors? Was Jordan Classy?? Have you watched the documentary? What is your definition of classy?
@Jared Taylor Millenials..😅
Isaiah is Simply the Greatest Point Guard to ever play the Game. Period!
I love Isiah! His smile is infectious!
Lifelong Laker fan so who grew up in the Showtime/Bad Boys era. Hated Zeke for years but the last few years I've sat through some of his interviews and I fck with Isaiah now. He's a real dude. That walk off did mega damage to his rep. Not the most underrated though. He got his due, or at least enough. Gotta give underrated to someone more obscure/unsung.
AWESOME interview of all times!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I love Isaiah Thomas. He's one of my favorite basketball players ever. I have him number 12 on my all time best players list. You can't watch the bad boys Piston team of the 80s objectively say they weren't dirty. They're one of the greatest NBA teams ever, they were certainly ahead of their time with playing position less basketball, but they were trying to take people's head off literally.
Fantastic interview. This interview provides the greatest insight into all of those vaunted stories; illuminates a tremendous amount of information, including some basketball strategy and what the championship mindset must be - mental stamina!
I met Isiah Thomas at the Superbowl in Minnesota and he was a delight. He's always had a reputation of being difficult. I didn't see it at all. He was a great player.
GREAT INTERVIEW!!
Stop generalizing and labeling people! Not all millennials think the same. I was born in 93 and I know more basketball than baby boomers. I know Jordan is the GOAT I know Magic is the greatest pg and greatest laker etc.
I was born in 80 but I think Lebron is the 2nd greatest ever right after Jordan with the possibility of being #1
The funny thing is that it’s not even an accurate term. Millennials reach up to people in their mid 30’s at this point. People who who actually got to see MJ play at the time as kids. The “Space Jam” generation. What he really means is Gen Z who were born after all that, but he’s just using the term “millennial” to describe anyone younger than him like a lot of people do.
Great interview! Thanks.
This was GOLD!!
Deym. I love Isiah. Got so many Pointers in there....Truly a Great Basketball IQ
The PiSTONS ran the best 3 guard offense of all-time.
True and when Vinnie was hot it was OVER WITH.
@@thatguyfrom313 The MiCROWAVE! I can hear George Blaha screaming: "Count that baby and a foul!!!" 🏀😀🏀
@@eMCEe131 lol YESSSSSS I forgot all about that. He used that for Vinnie.
@@thatguyfrom313 somebody at ESPN said it was the greatest nickname of all time!
It is still surprising to me that Vinnie, Isiah and some other guards were shooting jumpers while riding the defenders' body
This was such a great interview. Isiah breaks it down Basketball 101! thank you Chris for bringing Isiah and his achievements to the fore again.
Great interview with a real legend.
I could watch Zeke talk basketball forever. The most underrated player ever
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! ISAIAH'S BASKETBALL IQ IS OFF THE CHARTS. THIS WAS A BEYOND GREAT INTERVIEW. I NOW SEE WHY AI TALKED SO HIGHLY OF HIM AT THE HALL OF FAME INDUCTIONS.
Great Interview!
Dope ! I really enjoyed watching