PotatoQuality's Picks For Tier 9 Ranked

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  • Today we are looking at the best tier 9 ships imo. These ships are the best choice for winning games in the current silver-ranked season. Obviously you can do well in any ship, but these are my favorites.
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Komentáře • 293

  • @atpyro7920
    @atpyro7920 Před 3 lety +85

    You forgot the real advantage Friesland has over Kitakaze: the Dutch voiceover lines.
    Also do you think people who said not to buy Musashi because it’s a worse Yamato back in the day and followed their own advice are kicking themselves?

    • @KartikoKurnianto
      @KartikoKurnianto Před 3 lety +15

      About anti musashi folks, I laughed so hard when I heard what they say... Yes Musashi is worse Yamato (tho armor, handling, and consumable wise, musashi actually better rn)... but they forgot 1 crucial thing... Musashi is 1 f*cking tier lower and can even enjoy bullying t7... Also when u think for example JB, same tier with almost 30k less HP and covered by 32 mm, musashi just eats them for breakfast, lunch, & dinner that it's not even funny

    • @jozseftoth9368
      @jozseftoth9368 Před 3 lety +8

      That happened to me, i admit. Than i played some t9 ranked just after Musashi had gone, and i understood, as i faced 3 Musashies in my Georgia. One was on my flank, facing me, one on my right in the middle of the map, and one next him. They controlled every movement in front of them.
      Yeah, in retrospect i should have bought her, especially for ranked

    • @VRichardsn
      @VRichardsn Před 3 lety +12

      @@jozseftoth9368 It takes a big man to admit one's mistakes. Kudos.

    • @T1g3rd4v1d
      @T1g3rd4v1d Před 3 lety +4

      I did it too. I'm not a BB player and only had the Amagi what was my highest BB that time. Everyone said what you wrote, so i'm not bought it, and Now i'm really mad myself.
      However lots of players sad Smaland is not a good ship and not worth the 2 million free exp. I bought it and it's my favourite ship in the game. It's a beast.

    • @bramleerentveld5978
      @bramleerentveld5978 Před 3 lety +2

      mate when you are dutch and you hear those dutch voiceover lines it really is terrible to hear

  • @therecklesswarlock6439
    @therecklesswarlock6439 Před 3 lety +47

    my boi Pommern isn't going to be even mentioned.

    • @gregoryfolsom7882
      @gregoryfolsom7882 Před 3 lety +1

      That's a mockery of a sham of a travesty.

    • @matty_mccarthy
      @matty_mccarthy Před 3 lety +1

      good in small matches otherwise easy to focus and burn

    • @gregoryfolsom7882
      @gregoryfolsom7882 Před 3 lety +4

      @@matty_mccarthy So...basically every BB in the game? Also, this is specifically a video about ranked, so yeah, smaller battles are definitely a good place for any brawler.
      Playing bronze I'm seeing Scharnhorst and Gneisenaus everywhere

    • @matty_mccarthy
      @matty_mccarthy Před 3 lety

      @@gregoryfolsom7882 Y every BB? not many have torps like Pommern. depends on MM for ranked 4 BBs isnt small. Pommern is situational in small Battles your looking for a 1V1 with Pommern

    • @gregoryfolsom7882
      @gregoryfolsom7882 Před 3 lety

      @@matty_mccarthyAny BB can get focused and burned to the waterline, unless they stay at the back of the map sniping all game, and even then a couple long range HE spammers like Des Moines can ruin your day. A select few (RN with super heal, Russians with thick deck armor) can handle it better than others, but a BB is always much better when escorted. Either the enemy has more targets to shoot at, or if they're focusing you, your teammates are shredding them with impunity.

  • @nullandvoid9169
    @nullandvoid9169 Před 3 lety +20

    That shot at Zao hurt me... :(
    My poor Zao needs a buff.

  • @anidiot2818
    @anidiot2818 Před 3 lety +57

    I think I'll stay in bronze for a while, it's really fun to play and i can grind my T7 ships there instead of getting deleted by T9 ships.

    • @jozseftoth9368
      @jozseftoth9368 Před 3 lety +1

      Just dont tell me being t7 makes ranked a fun thing

    • @lucidnonsense942
      @lucidnonsense942 Před 3 lety +8

      Yes it does, normally T7 get terrible mm against 9s. But, they are huge fun to play against other T7s. Ranges are lower, so it's less campy and you only see tier 6 CVS. T7 ranked is the best game mode right now.

    • @lucidnonsense942
      @lucidnonsense942 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh, also, not too many fantasy napkin designs.

    • @gruber2813
      @gruber2813 Před 3 lety

      Im also using to grind my Sinop and Jervis... It's nice to always be top tier.

  • @torenico
    @torenico Před 3 lety +6

    Udaloi clicks perfectly with me, it has 10 km torpedoes in a similar-ish arrangement as Mogador (which allows for some yoloing), a decent speed boost, great ballistics, DefAA, a heal AND smoke. It's the "utility" gunboat, capable of keeping itself alive while having attrition gunfights with other DDs thanks to it's ability to control engagements.

  • @Txpilot7
    @Txpilot7 Před 3 lety +3

    My thoughts after using Friesland in Ranked for about 10+ matches in ranked:
    While Friesland can out DPM any destroyer she faces one on one, such an encounter is quite rare until the near end of the game or near the less contested caps. It is quite difficult to contest caps early game as your concealment at 6.4 km upgraded means that other destroyers can keep you spotted until you smoke up, find cover, or runaway. During this time you will instantly become focused down by enemy cruisers/battleships. This is nothing new to destroyer players however the lack of torpedoes means that your ability to deny enemies from taking/retaking caps is severely hampered. This leaves you to a much more supporting role by providing smoke to allies and heading towards the lesser contested cap and hoping to engage in near one on one fights. The Friesland gets more powerful the less ships there are which means that if your team struggles to get trades or is down by a ship or two it quickly becomes much more difficult to comeback in Friesland than in something like Black, Jutland, or Kitakaze. Friesland can definitely work in ranked but it definitely feels handicapped without an area of denial weapon such as torpedoes to prevent/discourage pushes. As long as you realize this and adapt your play style accordingly then Friesland is definitely a decent ship within ranked.

  • @roquri
    @roquri Před 3 lety +18

    T9 DD, I still am more consistent in Neustrashimy. My favorite ship.

    • @ShyeHD
      @ShyeHD Před 3 lety +2

      I was thinking the same.

    • @axolotl957
      @axolotl957 Před 3 lety +2

      The roach is a lovely boat. Outliving all competition is a great gimmick actually

    • @gregoryfolsom7882
      @gregoryfolsom7882 Před 3 lety

      The Roach has a little more utility, but not enough to make up for Kitakaze's firepower and speed advantage

    • @roquri
      @roquri Před 3 lety

      @@gregoryfolsom7882 I can see that, depending on the situation. I have been chased down by a Kita before.

    • @user-yb6ih8tj3r
      @user-yb6ih8tj3r Před 3 lety

      agreed. It's Neustrashimy or Udaloi if you don't have the coal.

  • @landochabod7
    @landochabod7 Před 3 lety +22

    I'm not convinced by the Friesland.
    The Kita can launch 12 powerful torps and pens 30 mm stock, the Friesland has...hydro? And worse concealment? Meh...

    • @s.31.l50
      @s.31.l50 Před 3 lety

      Hydro is super useful though

    • @sirdancealot2645
      @sirdancealot2645 Před 3 lety +6

      I agree. I dont find a DD without torps the most powerful in ranked battles.

    • @efemertozturk127
      @efemertozturk127 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sirdancealot2645 exactly, had a game in my bronze qualifiers with 2 bbs left on our team and a friesland on the other, we had the cap advantage with not much time, he tried hard but he just lost. Torps are a MUST in late game situations.

    • @Mooncricketstinks
      @Mooncricketstinks Před 3 lety +1

      I have friesland. The hydro can be powerful if you force close enough to a smoked up kita and pelt her while she can't see you. Plus you make a nice no fly zone for CVS. Friesland is not a DPM ship and you have to force yourself to remember that. It harrasses, and provides aa no fly zones.

    • @landochabod7
      @landochabod7 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Mooncricketstinks Sure, but CVs aren't that common in Silver, and the Z-46 also has hydro, along with torps, better HE pen and better ballistics.

  • @aristosachaion_
    @aristosachaion_ Před 3 lety +2

    Z-46 has served me so well in ranked, and so has Bismarck. Granted, the latter is often an uphill battle, but in the games where I come out on top against ships a tier higher, it's a fantastic feeling.

  • @maxwelllittle5291
    @maxwelllittle5291 Před 3 lety +5

    One thing I notice is people underuse AP on the Kitakaze - unlike most DDs the shells arm on 19mm plating so you can use the full DPM in knife fights or ambushes against broadside DDs.

  • @thepurplesmurf
    @thepurplesmurf Před 3 lety +8

    1:27 Destroyers
    7:55 DD Top List
    8:30 Cruisers
    15:04 Cruiser Top List
    15:18 Battleships
    22:33 BB Top List

  • @borislohmeyer3695
    @borislohmeyer3695 Před 3 lety +4

    nice vid as always. but i disagree a bit with your DD-picks, if im allowed to: 5 moga (cause easily outplayed), 4 benham (very ugly to play against even if enemy is 'server average'), 3 black (radar useful but only decent gunpower and very little use of torps cause too slow, long smokereload), 2 ostergotland (veeery underrated but slap AFT on it and rpf + the musthaves and u have a very good gunboat + very good torps cause of narrow spreads and speed. mix floodings with good firechance + AFT and be nightmare to all classes. heals. AA). 1 def kitakaze (unrivaled gunpower, AA, for ranked 8km torps, yamamoto, monster). friesland against good players almost useless -> no heals, underwhelming conceal, no torpalpha, long smokereload, 2 turrets -> dead meat to kitakazes cause of broadsiding.

  • @GodOfWaaar
    @GodOfWaaar Před 3 lety +3

    Despite ranked, I would loove to see a game of you, playing the Friesland. (I just bought it and I suck the majority of the time)

  • @FJFuentesCO
    @FJFuentesCO Před 3 lety

    Nice list! Staying in Silver League this go round, T10 in Gold just gets boring unless you have the Smaland.

  • @n0us.
    @n0us. Před 3 lety +1

    11:38
    Haven't started grinding the USSR cruiser line, so I haven't seen this before. WOW LOOK AT DAT SUPERSTRUCTURE. It almost beats the new Celebes.

  • @poopsie117
    @poopsie117 Před 3 lety +1

    Jean Bart was kind of a monster for me last Ranked season with Deadeye ... with it, not only did it pump out shells, but shells that were consistent if I managed my distance well. Playing it now w/o Deadeye, its honestly kind of a shotgun now :/

  • @WolfRawrrr
    @WolfRawrrr Před 3 lety

    Kitakaze, Fletcher, Donskoi, and Iowa are my ships for tier IX. I don't have any of the others on this list, but it's nice to get confirmation.

  • @rexstuff4655
    @rexstuff4655 Před 3 lety +1

    Last time we had T9 ranked, I struggled to find 'my ship' for the season. In T8, it was Cossack, no contest, but it took me a lot longer at T9. I tried a lot of the usual suspects; Alaska, Kitakaze, and so on, but none of them clicked for me. They are all certainly strong ships, and I could do well enough, but they lacked the carry power I needed to pull my dumbass teams kicking and screaming to a victory. I eventually settled on the Fletcher; despite the Kita's better gun power, I feel that the Fletcher just has so much more versatility. Stealthier, more maneuverable and torps that reload much faster for bullying BBs and clearing caps.
    And as much as I love Friesland for random battle grinding, the lack of a torp threat holds her back, IMHO. While you can do a lot of damage to BBs with those guns, you can't intimidate them, can't keep them pinned in place without even just the threat of torps.

  • @arrivingagain4691
    @arrivingagain4691 Před 3 lety +4

    2910PR, 75% WR with 85k average Friesland player, but in my mind, Friesland is not too good at ranked. The real problem for this ship is the combination of 6.4 concealments, 36kts, long-duration long CD smoke, with no speed boost. You cannot control the cap as easily as Cossack, Jutland, Lighting; get spotted by Akizuki, Kitakaze; and it's really hard for you to deal with a Mogador. This ship is my favorite dd in random since you can easily kill their dd and smoke and spam, but in ranked it is much harder for you to kill their dd, and you are much harder to find a place to spam. Speaking of cap control British dd should be better.

  • @scimitar4211
    @scimitar4211 Před 3 lety +27

    I don’t understand why they didn’t just do tier 8 for bronze, 9 for silver and 10 for gold

    • @panzerelite_born2compete
      @panzerelite_born2compete Před 3 lety +18

      Cause they want CV for every league

    • @ryanli5803
      @ryanli5803 Před 3 lety +18

      t7 ranked is fun though :V

    • @Haeruna
      @Haeruna Před 3 lety +3

      @@ryanli5803 Its not though, Destroyers are useless cause everyone who has the Belfast or Atlanta is just playing that and the maps are small.

    • @StaK_1980
      @StaK_1980 Před 3 lety +4

      I'd love for it to be tier 7 /8 /9 and leaving tier 10 for the clan battles

    • @AhriHentai
      @AhriHentai Před 3 lety +6

      @@Haeruna I am ranking out in my T7 Yuudachi (for fun purposes). I have lost ONE and that was because I misplayed and was too aggressive. Atlanta and Belfast is only really op if you charge into their radar

  • @amadeokomnenus1414
    @amadeokomnenus1414 Před 3 lety +11

    I just rinsed and repeated the kitakaze and JB formula. Occasionally i might chuck in the Riga for something different.

    • @Kazockas
      @Kazockas Před 3 lety

      Mm3

    • @Kazockas
      @Kazockas Před 3 lety

      Mm3

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety +1

      Georgia is really fun now. Swift in Silence =43.1 knots. Its awesome in ranked, more than it used to be, that 5 knots extra speed is totally worth it for Georgia, it takes her strongest aspect and makes it better.

    • @amadeokomnenus1414
      @amadeokomnenus1414 Před 3 lety

      @@martinpalmer6203 Sweet, ill have a look at that.

  • @kevinmercier3614
    @kevinmercier3614 Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much for the Vid. Very helpfull

  • @enigmaix352
    @enigmaix352 Před 3 lety +3

    Destroyers
    1:27 Benham
    2:45 Mogador
    3:46 Black / Fletcher
    4:42 Kitakaze
    6:10 Friesland
    Cruisers
    8:29 Agir / Siegfried
    9:54 Brindisi
    11:36 Donskoi
    12:45 Riga
    13:58 Alaska
    Battleships
    15:15 Jean Bart / Alsace
    17:00 Lepanto / Iowa / Izumo
    17:45 Sovetsky Soyuz
    18:57 Missouri / Georgia
    20:53 Musashi

  • @ciaranscanlon7857
    @ciaranscanlon7857 Před 3 lety +5

    PQ clearly hasn't played Jutland

    • @FrancisMaynard
      @FrancisMaynard Před 3 lety

      absolutely. I as waiting for JUTLAND ... this thing is a beast. Hydro, fast reloading guns, short puff smoke ... etc etc

  • @fullmetalpoitato5190
    @fullmetalpoitato5190 Před 3 lety +3

    I simply can't believe that the Jutland isn't on this list. I wreck and face roll in T9 Ranked with the Jutland every time. Despite it's nerfs that old girl still kicks serious butt.

  • @punterpunter639
    @punterpunter639 Před 3 lety +1

    Friesland - fully agree - not only powerful but has an amazing exp coeficient. Even if team colapses it's very easy to save star.
    On cruisers - you forgot Kronshtad - I know Alaska is highly regarded but Kron is simply better. The guns simply deliver much better beyond 12-13km where Alaska starts to struggle with murican lazy balistic. And 12km radar makes a LOT of difference in giving intel to team - remember radar works not in straight line but gives a circle. 10 km radius and 12 km radius differs in a 44% bigger circle. On BBs - JB if one likes to camp and goes for save star but again - suprosed not to see Pommern up high ! Much more than Musashi in going for caps and pushing if needed, ultimately to torp enemy BB.

  • @rorororororor
    @rorororororor Před 3 lety +4

    Timestamps:
    DDs:
    1: Friesland 6:09 🇳🇱
    2: Kitakaze 4:41
    3: Black/Fletcher 3:45
    4: Mogador 2:43
    5: Benham 1:27
    Cruisers:
    1: Alaska 14:00 🏴󠁵󠁳󠁡󠁫󠁿
    2: Riga 12:43
    3: Donskoi 11:37
    4: Brindisi 9:56 🍝🤌
    5: Agir/Siegfried 8:30
    BBs:
    1: Musashi 19:59 🔫🗾🇯🇵
    2: Missouri/Georgia 18:58
    3: Sov. Soyuz 17:45
    4: Lepanto/Iowa/Izumo 17:00
    5: Jean Bart/Alsace 15:13

  • @thebarris7516
    @thebarris7516 Před 3 lety +1

    for the ppl who dont have Azuma for example, try playing 19.2 km Range Ibuki, its hella fun if u can aim

  • @maxmustermann1111
    @maxmustermann1111 Před 3 lety +2

    suprised not to see Jutland and Neustrashimi on the list.
    In clan battles they were around a lot. Even in typhoon (after the mogador limit). Maybe they dont have the torp power that the torpboats have or the gunpower that the gunboats have, but they have the survivability and guns and torps are decent. Both with the heal are insanely hard to kill, even when caught in a radar. They have good conceal. They got the heal, so if a DD fight breaks out and neither of them dies, neustra/jutland basically always win, as they are able to heal up again. Especially neustra. Adding defAA on neustra against T8 CVs is a nice to have. The jutland hydro helps avoiding lucky torps when contesting. The single launch can clutch some kill for the jutland.
    I think over all those 2 are very powerfull ships to control engagements and do long term work on a cap. Also neustra is only outspotted by yugumo wich isnt exactly common, so its fair to say neustra has the best conceal. Given the fact that cruisers are the least common role at the moment, you get a fair ammount of games with no radar at all, wich lifts the neustras concealment power even more up in value.
    I think those 2 would have deserved a spot. In my mind they are better than fletcher.

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 Před 3 lety +1

    Been doing Jervis for T7, it's a bit of a challenge but it can be lethal, didn't realise the click was last night so went to bed rather than completing qualification which was annoying :-)! Still more Bronze. Friesland not too sure about - lots of radar at T9, you pretty much can't do anything about a bb pushing into you, for me it has a high skill floor, you can have great games in it but you're dependent on your team mates to an extent it's a hard ship to carry in (IMHO). Donskoi is great - but you have to be careful especially with all the new large guns around, I'd rate Donskoi over Riga - better radar, more manoverable.

  • @SaiSaijo
    @SaiSaijo Před 2 lety

    What about Kearsarge at Tier 9? imo it has great guns and even though it's not very tanky and not the best gun angles, the spotting advantage on the planes against DDs, in games without CVs, kinda made up the difference. What's your take on it?

  • @Mooncricketstinks
    @Mooncricketstinks Před 3 lety +3

    PQ I'd like to see you use friesland in ranked. I struggle to beat a kitakaze with AR since 8 guns reloading about as fast as 4 is just a tough comparison.

    • @landochabod7
      @landochabod7 Před 3 lety +2

      He doesn't have it, he probably found it hard (by his standards...) to play against a few times, but imho it's a pretty poor choice: bad ballistics, no torps, no speed boost...

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety +1

      @@landochabod7 agree. its just not got enough going for it.
      Its fine in Randoms, but in Ranked anyone who is remotely decent will rush down and murder Friesland.
      Its basically a free kill.

  • @mehmetsahsert3284
    @mehmetsahsert3284 Před 3 lety

    I reseted my ijn bb and ijn gunboats destroyer lines. I hope I can catch it up to the gold leauge because the gold leauge sprint without yamato is going to be a trouble for sure. Zao and Shima can also do it i guess. Silver sprint is going tk be fine af. Tho. With Musashi and hizen in the lineup I will enjoy this spring

  • @SpartanFlyboy
    @SpartanFlyboy Před 3 lety +3

    “Not going to see many tier 8s”
    *LAUGHS IN MASSACHUSETTS*

    • @OiiRobbi3x
      @OiiRobbi3x Před 3 lety +3

      was just about to say the same thing he underestimates it does he not know its a ship with the same five first letters as MASSACRE?

    • @mannyplayspoe7183
      @mannyplayspoe7183 Před 3 lety +1

      I have just finished my (painful) grind through the silver qualification. Did all matches with the Soyuz. Surprisingly I didnt come accross a single Massa, not on the own side or the enemy. The rare T8 BB's that I saw were mostly Vlady's and a few Alabama's

  • @beeseumz
    @beeseumz Před 3 lety +3

    *Laughs at these rankings in Pommern*

  • @sirdancealot2645
    @sirdancealot2645 Před 3 lety +10

    Destroyers:
    1) Friesland
    2) Kitakaze
    3) Black/Fletcher (Black is 1 tick higher)
    4) Mogador
    5) Benham
    Cruisers:
    1) Alaska (Lol what a shock)
    2) Riga
    3) Dm. Donskoi
    4) Brindisi
    5) Agir/Siegfried
    Battleships:
    1) Musashi
    2) Missouri/Georgia (Freedom Speed)
    3) T9 Soviet Bias
    4) Lepanto/Iowa/Izumo
    5) JB/Alsace (Kek 32mm plating degrades them)

    • @kevinc.3579
      @kevinc.3579 Před 3 lety +1

      Missouri is garbage. Heals and rudder shift are absolute trash. Missouri is an Iowa with more than 16 percent less heals and an almost 2 second worse rudder shift.
      Radar means nothing. I guarantee at least two ships every ranked game is going to have radar, I.e both cruisers. I’d rather have the spotter plane.

    • @PriestessOfSlaanesh
      @PriestessOfSlaanesh Před 2 lety

      USS ships are trash and the bad guys won ww2. But seriously, Americans cant build good stuff irl, happy the videogamemagic helps them a bit to have at least good fantasy ships

  • @jozseftoth9368
    @jozseftoth9368 Před 3 lety +1

    What premium Soyuz he is talking about, the Azure Lane one?

  • @belph3240
    @belph3240 Před 3 lety +3

    I had great times in the Pommern in qualification

  • @tyutyu9331
    @tyutyu9331 Před 3 lety

    You recommended T-61. I did the bronze in T61 in one go. No stars lost :) Now you recomment Friesland. Me looks in port. Friesland in port. Me rubs hands and smiles :)

  • @elmorubilar4747
    @elmorubilar4747 Před 3 lety +2

    you forget the cv's PQ :P

  • @Jupltus
    @Jupltus Před 3 lety

    Encountered a crap ton of Alaskas and Georgias in Silver league qualifications, personally I have been using the tier 8 Oland and it works for me, not sure why.

  • @northernzeus768
    @northernzeus768 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m surprised the Lenin didn’t make the list. Yes T8 but can hold it’s own against any of the T9 except the Musashi of course. It’s maneuverable for a BB. Rail guns. The range is painful but ranked is closer in. If you take the torpedo detection skill and run the det flag you can avoid those terrible torpedo detonations she is prone to.
    I’ve had 2 - 4 kill games in ranked with her

  • @matty_mccarthy
    @matty_mccarthy Před 3 lety

    I love JB, position urself well and you out play many of those BB in the list.... Gona need help to take out Musashi otherwise need to play at lond distance

  • @aispassais8737
    @aispassais8737 Před 2 lety

    Can you make chart for ranked t9 together of all ships ? what ships can win more battles than others ? No matter they are battleships or destroyers

  • @pepperpiet
    @pepperpiet Před 3 lety +3

    i personally missing the zf-6 in ur destroyer list. in my eyes its the best cap contesting dd at the moment

  • @WolfRawrrr
    @WolfRawrrr Před 3 lety

    that missing superstructure on Musashi is where the secondaries/AA are on Yamato, no? Still counts as superstructure?

  • @megakong3865
    @megakong3865 Před 3 lety +6

    Kit is really strong at t9

  • @jksoler
    @jksoler Před 3 lety +1

    What about Neustrashinmy? That would be my number one. You do not beat Kitakaze for gun power, but you just disengage, print a new ship, and return to continue the gunfight. And she has torps!!!

  • @razgrizseele2171
    @razgrizseele2171 Před 3 lety +1

    Been playing the Friesland forever, my favorite boat in the game. 10/10 Would Friesland again.

  • @destructorzz7197
    @destructorzz7197 Před 3 lety

    Would love to know your opinion on Kutuzov, I absolutely wreck people in ranked on this ship

    • @vonhoff7137
      @vonhoff7137 Před 3 lety +1

      the 19km range on Kutuzov is nice that is true, i think it is a longest range of all HE spammer CLs, Mainz got 17.6km i think

  • @chaelli8111
    @chaelli8111 Před 3 lety +2

    Question. Isn't it better to stay in bronze? It resets every week (so you get more rewards than silver) while silver resets every 2 weeks. Please correct me if I'm wrong about anything.

    • @Sunflowerseedsforivan
      @Sunflowerseedsforivan Před 3 lety +5

      Only first sprint was week-long. The rest is two weeks, regardless if it's bronze, silver or gold.

    • @vonhoff7137
      @vonhoff7137 Před 3 lety

      i got to rank 2 today^^ much easier then last week with the gold boys playing.
      800 steel every week..yeap...i take it

  • @domidomi917
    @domidomi917 Před 3 lety

    Using Jean Bart I noticed hanging back, slinging HE until it's time for that final push. Hopefully I've deterred the enemy team from sniping me first, and have enough hp left. But yes, not the best overall but just the best i have
    Edit: I don't feel as comfortable with soyuz because of the poor maneuverability

  • @slimj091
    @slimj091 Před 3 lety

    I love the Sov Soyuz's armor... It's guns however are giant internet trolls.

  • @ImUnl3asheD
    @ImUnl3asheD Před 3 lety

    Surprised not to see the zf6 on this list.

  • @guyincognito1560
    @guyincognito1560 Před 2 lety

    Could really use some pointers with DD. Seems like I'm under a ton of scrutiny when in a DD and expected to tempt fate to cap and spot. I am eliminated quick many times because I'm just outnumbered usually and for some reason, always wind up on the team with no one willing to use radar or planes to help spot at a cap.

  • @martinpalmer6203
    @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

    At buffed 43.1 knot speed Georgia is the only BB worth spending points on Swift in Silence.... it makes a fantastic ship (that isnt a great tank anyway) even better, but amplifying its strengths (Flanking and repositioning into advantageous firing positions)

  • @80KG_Costco_Chicken
    @80KG_Costco_Chicken Před 3 lety +4

    T9 DD? Hum, how abouT Yolo Emilio🤣🤣

    • @tronic4456
      @tronic4456 Před 3 lety +1

      Actually not bad at all if you face a lot of battleships

  • @the_dented_NPC
    @the_dented_NPC Před 3 lety +2

    my pick for ranked is- "Good Job Merker"

  • @adamhymas4620
    @adamhymas4620 Před 2 lety +1

    The Roon, I knew it!

  • @trench4nt428
    @trench4nt428 Před 3 lety

    ZF-6 is missing. Is is supperior to Kita and Frieslad in an infight...?

  • @jozseftoth9368
    @jozseftoth9368 Před 3 lety +1

    Ahh, the Benham.. I can only hope they put her back for a grind

  • @gordonyz4
    @gordonyz4 Před 3 lety

    I found 1v1 Kronstadt wins fighting Alaska and Riga. Those strugg to win because of Krons gun ark is so insane (25 degree back, 20 degrees front)

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      Haha they beat you by mousing over and pressing F3,combined with pinging the BB on the opposite flank to crossfire your broadside.

    • @gordonyz4
      @gordonyz4 Před 3 lety

      @@martinpalmer6203 without deadeye life is much easier now

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      @@gordonyz4 Yeah now you just have to worry about 43 knot Georgia's flanking you ;)
      Georgia got better with this patch lol 😆

    • @gordonyz4
      @gordonyz4 Před 3 lety

      @@martinpalmer6203 not really finding Georgia a trouble so far, when facing away

  • @TheKobiDror
    @TheKobiDror Před 3 lety +3

    I bullied a Friesland with my ZF-6. This thing is huge to my mind. Also the biggest downside of a Friesland is the lack of torps. What are you going to to if a BB simply rushes your smoke? There is no huge thread to them. Friesland is a fun ship for random but not competitive enough to my mind. ZF-6 beats it for real.

    • @tomriley5790
      @tomriley5790 Před 3 lety

      Yeah friesland needs to be played carefully - a bit like Belfast - no torps makes you vulnerable if you don't have a friend around.

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      @@tomriley5790 exactly, & you dont want an HE spammer torpless, wannabeccruiser in one of your destroyer slots
      Stealth, Torps, Hydro, Guns... those you want for a good DD.
      Honestly Benham isn't that good for ranked either, it may have incredible torps,,but 10km range =vulnerable to radar and its SLOW.

  • @n0us.
    @n0us. Před 3 lety +1

    I'm assuming Neptune is too squishy. Good AA, radar(if you build for it), hydro, insane rate of fire, and really good torps. It gets easily citadeled by almost anything at any angle which is why its probably not here.

  • @rexodusde
    @rexodusde Před 3 lety +2

    Where would you place the Pommern in your list?

  • @vonhoff7137
    @vonhoff7137 Před 3 lety

    Also very fun: Yolo Emilio, ZF-6 and if you must use a tier 8 use Akizuki, similar gunpower to kitakaze, a bit slower though
    also.. where is secondary Pommern?:D
    not to forget the panasian izumo and alsace clones
    and the best tier 9 no question asked...Minnesota! pure gunpower!

    • @vonhoff7137
      @vonhoff7137 Před 3 lety

      Bronze League rest is 2 weeks now..not one... to bad

  • @markstone-tolcher5693
    @markstone-tolcher5693 Před 3 lety

    I have top tiered twice in Chappie, regrinding on the way to Al Nevski

  • @crabsyoureit
    @crabsyoureit Před 3 lety +2

    Not seeing the kronshtadt in the top 5 is a weird feeling, because that means it essentially got powercrept by silver russian ships. Yoikes.

    • @Cloudman572
      @Cloudman572 Před 3 lety

      Agree. Stalingrad is also not an auto pick in clan and KotS due to new silver Russian cruisers.

  • @zlpatriot11
    @zlpatriot11 Před 3 lety

    I wish there be more mid tier ranked as that's where the fun is imo.

  • @n0us.
    @n0us. Před 3 lety +1

    I'm assuming you'll see more Bismarcks than FDGs because the Bismarck is better than the FDG in my, and a lot of others, opinion. Also the Bismarck is so good that it even deals with when it gets uptiered to tier 10, so I think it'll be fine. Also Tirpitz(because its a Bismarck with torps).

  • @vonhoff7137
    @vonhoff7137 Před 3 lety

    PQ, most rare ships are in x-mas crates, buy enough and you get all on the list... no Smaland though(maybe 2021 has it, who knows) and i am not sure Friesland was in crates last x-mas, but Benham is/was for sure

  • @zagareth4604
    @zagareth4604 Před 3 lety

    My personal picks:
    Battleship: Full Secondary Pommern - not the most effective ship, but it puts a lot of pressure on the caps and when it comes to brawling, you win - not one ship on your list ever won a brawling against my Pommern. It's THE ship with the "I win the brawling" button.
    Cruiser: Partial Secondary Ägir - partial, because it obviously does not have the Commander Power for Secondaries, but modules are the same as on Pommern - and this thing is a Mini-Pommern on steroids. 20k secondary damage in 1 brawl against a BB? No problem and you still get Torps and a very good main battery to push BBs out of existence and still have enough HP left to try on the next one. This cruiser is also a good BB hunter with only 11.9 km concealment and got good enough mobility to evade a lot of DD torps.
    Well, you guessed it, I'm all in for secondaries. Yep, they work in Ranked, even better than in random games - but of course they ain't the solution for everything. Brawling does not occur in all games and it's not the most effective game play, but it's a lot of fun.

  • @matthewdouglas8368
    @matthewdouglas8368 Před 3 lety +1

    Wait what about pommern?

  • @Swarm509
    @Swarm509 Před 3 lety

    Me just getting to rank 1 bronze finally and I check this list to find out I only have an Izumo/Iowa from the list. Close to Mogador. Going to be rough getting through the 5 qualification games I think.....

  • @lennyfieldy
    @lennyfieldy Před 3 lety

    For DDs no Jutland?

  • @gregavolk
    @gregavolk Před 3 lety +1

    What about ZF6?

  • @dinowarship5762
    @dinowarship5762 Před 3 lety +2

    people love underestimating the pommern it seems

  • @victorvelazquez8187
    @victorvelazquez8187 Před 3 lety

    You had Fletcher/Black at #3, but missed Chung Mu, which is essentially a Fletcher with deep water torps and slightly better concealment.

  • @darkhawk4863
    @darkhawk4863 Před 3 lety +1

    And only, by my count, seven ships on these lists (combined) that you can't obtain anymore. Unfortunately, two of them are in top slots for their class, but, not really PQ's fault that WG likes removing access to OP ships rather than nerfing them, so we all get to deal with them forever, even if we can't have them, ourselves.

  • @filipkotlaja8697
    @filipkotlaja8697 Před 3 lety

    IMO i think the zf-6 would be a pretty decent pick for a dd

  • @Boatswain_Tam
    @Boatswain_Tam Před 3 lety +1

    When you put T9 ranked with cruisers in the same sentence, it is the Alaska. Its not just a choice, it is the only choice.

  • @artempavlov4599
    @artempavlov4599 Před 3 lety

    I like fries, very fun, but problem, when enemy start to push, you have no torps to divert enemy. But it capable to put battleships down.

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      no its really not capable of dealing with battleships or heavy cruisers.
      Frieslands weakness is it lacks the tools to deal with anyone wanting to rush it down, its also too slow to run away... in many ways its like an asashio... fantastic unless the enemy team decides they want you dead.
      That's its problem, it can't *hold* ground.
      Fries lack of torps is a fatal flaw.

  • @belsteed6050
    @belsteed6050 Před 3 lety

    It's a Yamato class for sure, but correct me if I'm wrong they both have very different turret speed and dispersion... I think you can definitely feel the sigma difference, sometimes Musashi feel meh Salvo on the opposite Yamato rarely disappoint if u aim correctly.. It makes a huge difference at the end even if they have the same caliber. Musashi still op tho.

    • @Neneset
      @Neneset Před 2 lety

      Musashi and Yamato have the same dispersion, but Yamato has a 2.1 sigma and Musashi has a 1.8 sigma. If Yamato has the unique upgrade installed then it has better dispersion than Musashi, but Musashi's RoF will be higher. Musashi has the old Yamato turret 180 time of 72 seconds as it did not receive the turret rotation buff to 60 seconds that Yamato did. Its almost like Musashi was over performing and didn't need a buff....

  • @seanlucero4240
    @seanlucero4240 Před 3 lety +1

    I like kita best need that torp alpha

  • @michalbichajlo6011
    @michalbichajlo6011 Před 3 lety

    alaska and musashi are overpowerder but they have been removed from the store so there is no problem, still in every fuckin game see a lot of those and it feels nice as a new player that i cannot even get them

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      Musashi has a severe weakness to CVS, but aside from that its pretty strong.
      Alaska is easy to Citadel from ~12-18 km away... any closer just burn it down with HE cruisers don't get good fire prevention.
      You can still get Musashi most likely, just gotta buy Xmas containers and after you get all the other ships that are lower tier, you'll get JB, Missouri and Musashi from the list, in order... Thats assuming they put them on the list for the coming year.
      Don't worry, you have FDR , Stalingrad and a few others which will be unobtainable at some point, and are at least as OP as Alaska and Musashi.

  • @quatschkopq186
    @quatschkopq186 Před 3 lety

    RIP Friedrich and Pommern

  • @Deletado25
    @Deletado25 Před 3 lety

    I use the Soyuz for the stalinium shells

  • @conanik
    @conanik Před 3 lety

    Where are the subtitles?

  • @Frankon81
    @Frankon81 Před 3 lety

    Kron being wonky.... Each shot has 3 possibilities.... You either miss , overpen or citadel ^^

  • @Gundolf300
    @Gundolf300 Před 3 lety +1

    What people see in Alaska I can not understand. Sure, radar is a nice thing and if you get broadside close to one it will hurt you bad, but so will all ships.
    It has garbage maneuverability, dispersion is just all over the place and it's really not that tanky. Seriously, and bb takes away huge amounts of its hp regardless of angling. Any time I see one I have a field day because they are easy to hit and takes a lot of dmg.

  • @whyno713
    @whyno713 Před 3 lety +1

    Wouldn't Wujing belong with JB/Alsace? And why no ZF-6 for DDs?

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety +1

      Wujing is just a vanilla Alsace. Copy/paste and add a skin.
      Its not like a Bajie that gets better sigma and range, for the cost of reload over the Izumi. Wujing is pure lazy mode copy/paste

    • @whyno713
      @whyno713 Před 3 lety

      @@martinpalmer6203 you exactly right, wish WG would have give it some sort of quirkiness (the secondaries might be different as they are technically a different gun but stats don't go into secondaries sigma, dispersion etc.).

  • @renameduser_109
    @renameduser_109 Před 3 lety +6

    For me ranked is a golden season to grinding lines. 7v7 make less potatoes in team and u can win more and put flag on the ship! i use izmail for approx.10 games got 80k xp.

  • @armanhadi777
    @armanhadi777 Před 2 lety

    He really underrated the JB.

  • @TheChonaman
    @TheChonaman Před 3 lety

    Like your channel, thanks for your content SLM. My personal recommendation to your viewers is to learn how the play the game. There is zero need to obtain Premium Ships. They are a total grift but if you enjoy throwing your money at a Russian/Cyprian-based company for the sake of a few months of OP gameplay, go right ahead and do so. Learn to play and forget the fantasy of "a better ship." Wargaming will change it tomorrow anyway, so you've paid for zero long-term advantage. Cheers!

  • @HetTorentje
    @HetTorentje Před 3 lety

    How can I take this list serious without a Jutland?

  • @Parpyduck
    @Parpyduck Před 3 lety +3

    ZF-6 is no joke.

  • @KartikoKurnianto
    @KartikoKurnianto Před 3 lety +1

    No jutland?

  • @coffeeisgood576
    @coffeeisgood576 Před rokem

    thought of trying ranked but if it really depends on caps then screw that. wish they would just get rid of them or make it where the only objective is the enemies base. you know your shit at a game when you have to use basically a super ship at tier 9

  • @EGSON1996
    @EGSON1996 Před 3 lety +1

    Jutland not in top 5?

  • @NotTheRookie
    @NotTheRookie Před 3 lety

    I carry ranked hard in my Jean Bart. If I don't get a High Caliber achievement every battle I'm having a bad day.

    • @martinpalmer6203
      @martinpalmer6203 Před 3 lety

      Musashi is still king at doing unhealable damage.
      Lepanto is also damned good.
      Funnily enough both are great because they are amazingly good at killing Jeanbart... forcing the JB to either sit bow in and die, or do something stupid...
      Not saying that you can't be useful in JB. But its damage numbers tend to get inflated with HE spam, so for example 90,000 dmg with an AP ship often has more impact than 150k with an HE spammer.
      That's reflected in the stats for T9 ships as well,the AP ships have the best winrates, even if they often have a bit lower damage than the HE spammers.