Klopp and Guardiola both unhappy with referee after Anfield clash
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- Both Jürgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola expressed their frustration with refereeing decisions during Liverpool's 1-0 win over Manchester City at Anfield.
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Phil Foden had a goal disallowed early in the second half when Anthony Taylor penalised Erling Haaland for a foul on Fabinho after consulting the pitchside monitor.
Guardiola accused the referee of inconsistency after the game. 'It was play on, play on, play on - after we score, it is not play on,' the Manchester City manager said. Klopp received a red card late on for protesting after Mohamed Salah was not awarded a foul.
'Red card - my fault. I went over the top in that moment,' said the Liverpool manager, who added: 'how on earth is it possible not to give that foul?'
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I hope Anthony Taylor never get these big games again, he was shocking.
he is always picked to referee this game because hes from the city of manchester
You're joking right? He's been doing this for years without consequences
PL need new referees who doesn’t lick Manchester clubs
Well played by Anthony Joshua. Hope he continue the referees game future in.
I don't think he was that bad, there were some fouls but there men and there were no red cards. On the big decision, the disallowed goal, foul in the build up and foul on the keeper, Taylor was referred to VAR and made the right call.
I do remember last year at Ainfield Milner didnt get a second yellow against City when he clearly fouled. Even as Liverpool fan I was happy but confused. This time it was against Salah and again confused. I never seen him this angry and Salah rarely gets angry. Probably it reminded himof the Ramos tackle.
I appreciate the objectivity of this comment, pretty spot on
Yea I'm pretty sure Mo got flashbacks of the Ramos tackle too. Was quite similar.
Mo was angry because that was the "straw that broke the camels back"
He was fouled many times and got no calls. The last one he knew was a result of City knowing they will get away with it. That is why he was rightfully angry.
That is the first time i seen Salah get angry for the past 5 years lol.
I remember Mili getting two yellows off his former PE teacher, Jon whatisname who recently retired. (The one with the record shop). But I think that was at the Etihad. We need to import refs from overseas. They’re not up to it, our lot. And especially how we misuse VAR. The ref saw the foul on Fab and deemed it innocuous to let it pass. Goal> VAR > now it’s not okay. Eh? Only thing that makes it just is that it should have been a Liverpool corner a minute earlier when Ederson pulled off a miracle save from Mo. Rubbish refereeing though. Hate to agree with Pep but I do. Jürgen too. YNWA
1. Should've been a corner at the other end after Ederson saved Salah's shot..
2. Foul on Fabinho.
3. Foul on Ali.
Three blatant reasons that "goal" couldn't justifiably stand.
In the Barca RM game an exact same scenario happened where Vini kicked the keepers hand and the ball popped out. That was given a foul. The refs in the PL are just nuts
Foul on Salah 2 times
Finally someone making sense
Pep didn't complain last season. Rodri handball not given penalty. Moutinho decision given penalty.
And yous didn't complain when Milner almost broke Bernado's neck shut your mouths
Yes that's true
@@fifty-five6929 he deserved it.
@ fifty five ...n what part of Manchester are you from?...you another City glory boy who would need a sat nav to locate Eastlands
That was down to kavannah n Tierny...a ref n a VAR both from Manchester..
Pep and Klopp not happy with Anthony Taylor
Chelsea: 1st time?
At least the referrees are consistently inconsistent.
Because they are humans
@@osinachi6887 ok
Maybe they are too humane
"play on play on play on"... except when there is a goal, and a foul.. VAR is checked. Not sure what Pep is complaining about here lol. The most clear fouls were on Fabinho and Salah
Exactly he's just salty
he was complaining about the quality on pitch referee.
sure the foul is obvious there, haaland pull fab shirt but the play shouldve stop right there not corrected by var.
also that silva shirt pull, its obvious foul but ref didnt call it.
quality of ref is so bad.
@@schneeraizor7020 i agree with you, both manager complaining about the poor job done by the referee
@@schneeraizor7020 Yes, but when there is a goal the ref is allowed to check VAR. Pep is complaining about the disallowed goal.
@@schneeraizor7020 pep was complaining about the disallowed goal... it was clear foul... he should accept defeats.. that's tactical masterclass from klopp
Got to be the weakest argument I’ve ever heard
‘It’s a foul but he played on so var shouldn’t get involved’ what
He said it was a clear foul and the ref should give a free kick right away so the VAR discussion would be pointless. Its football, not wrestling
@@easygo4568
Right
So he agrees it’s a foul but because the ref doesnt give it he thinks it should be fine
Plus var has now since said it would’ve cancelled it for the foul on Allison aswell
Regardless we can agree referee performance in this particular match was just bad
@@TheManorBeast He's annoyed at the inconsistency, that it's only a foul if it results in a goal.
@@easygo4568 pointless argument
Peps excuse is 'we got away with other fouls,' why did you not allow us to get away with a goal that came from another foul.
They shouldn’t have even had the goal kick, it was a corner
*two fauls during that "goal"
I don't think that's what he's saying. He's saying that the referee let a lot go that normally wouldn't be (and for both teams if you watched the match) and only when they scored he changed his leniency. That's what he's saying.
@@chwestfield Both managers said (afterwards) they wanted tighter refereeing. But whingeing about a properly disallowed goal is not logical. (Compare no ball checks in cricket)
Which is fair cos it's highlighting a lack of consistency. Why does it have to come down to a VAR moment for the rules to actually be enforced?
Ref was shocking today to be frank.
Funny how pep says “play on play on play on” when the goal disallowed for man city shouldn’t even have happened. Play before. Commentator on ederson “great save” where he was down injured, and city got a goal kick.
Funny how Klopp and you don't complain when Milner almost breaks Bernado's neck or when Thagio is one a yellow makes another yellow card tackle and doesn't get sent off or when his teams constantly fouls yet no free kicks are given. So shut your mouth
Anthony Taylor never fails to disappoint us. He did the wrong calls against Chelsea vs Tottenham as well.
nothing wrong with anthony taylor. quit your whining
The level of refereeing in the PL is getting worse by the weeks.
Great to see genuine passion , humility and reverence from both clubs managers
Apart from the fact that the city goal came from a goal kick that was meant to be a corner because Ederson saved Salahs shot.
Gomez take the ball after this moment🤦🏼♂️
Why Pep is complaining like that. That was a clear foul on Fabinho on top of that before that moment the ref should've given a corner kick
@@free7816 no? the VAR screen was on haaland-fabinho, not a milner foul. There also would’ve been another check to see if haaland had kicked the ball out of allison’s hands. AND it shouldn’t have been a goal kick for city.
When Pep was talking.. once I thought he'd spit...
U Demn right pep “THIS IS ANFIELD”!! 😂
I always wonder why the pep fanboys think he is better than klopp he has been losing his head to head matchup with him for years now.
And klopp had dortmund against bayern and now lfc against city, and still is better h2h with really less buget clubs and weaker team.. pep is genius but klopp is something else
As Liverpool fan, Pep better in term of CONSISTENCY, Statistic speak itself... even ain't worth of debate
Sorry but Pep is better. He won 4 out of 5 league titles. And dont give me that BS about money. I am liverpool fan and we spent less than Arsenal who till this season werent even getting top4 money. Thats not Citys fault thats FSG fault.
Because of what he's done in the past and is doing now ..... I know klopp winning Bundesliga and shattering Bayern is an achievement..... But come on Sextuple with Barcelona is insane ..... Even the best Liverpool side couldn't do quadruple... Not even the best real Madrid side could do such thing.... 100 points with Barca and 100 points with city ... Isn't that just insane.... Even if pep decides not to coach he's left with insane legacy and there is no doubting it ..... Klopp just has a better record against city maybe because he knows how to stop city.... But doesn't mean klopp is better than Pep😑
@@bigdawg3836 Bcos he always chooses the most resourceful team honey. He only won CL with Messi. Take that for a data
In the EPL the football is getting better and the refereeing is getting worse!
Lol really? Premier league is getting better? How, when football is all getting shattered.
Omg that first line by Klopp was hilarious.
why is it funny? He is responsible with his action and it takes a big heart to say sorry
He often explained his "psychopathic looks" in these moments during his Bundesliga stint. I believe that he is well prepared and got some sort of boilerplate in case he receives another red card in these circumstances. 😉
@@oka2893 where he said the way he looked was worth a red card :D
@@ProBloggerWorld isn't that the first red he has gotten?
@@patpat8727 Nope.
1) Haaland definitely fouled Fabinho
2) no one is talking about the fact that the attack came directly from a goal kick that should have been a corner.
Anthony Taylor mugs a living as a ref. Remember England’s golden boy two-footed studs up that was ignored? No accountability and no repercussions ensures Premiere League officiating is a laughing stock.
not only taylor, lots of refs in EPL have low standard.
the refs shouldve see and stop the play when the foul happen not after the goals happen.
in pitch ref shouldve seen it clear, not always corrected by var.
I think since VAR came they always give the benefit of the doubt including offsides. But I get your point, some clear fouls and offsides really should be stopped right away.
How is Antony Taylor still not fired ?
I mean. When the FA still employs the likes of Chris Kavanagh, David Coote, Paul Tierney, Martin Atkinson, and Craig Pawson, why bother?
Klopp is a passionate football man, I have met him once only briefly!! But his honesty and his integrity is so clear to see.. within seconds
More like delusional
In this moment
Couple times this season anthony taylor managed a big game and I swear his decisions are always being discussed afterwards. Remember his reffing in the Chelsea v spurs game at the start of the season was also poor. He shouldn't ref big games anymore
More than you believe. For sure.
JURGEN klopp worst nightmare of pep 🥰
So much that City have won 4 out of the last 5 prem titles. Pep will sleep just fine on his bed of trophies.
@@tyduke1581 sleep with the Shiekhs to get unlimited money?
@@tyduke1581 klopp crying with Liverpool's 6 UCLs 😭
@@littleking5546 was it Klopp that won all?👀
@@littleking5546 so Klopp gets credit for what Liverpool did before he got there….he is 1-2 in UCL finals. Pep has not done well in the UCL. I will admit that but you can’t knock 4 out of 5. If we are truth telling I would take even on UCL of it meant giving one or two prems back.
Well….no! They played on, but the VAR said there was a foul before the goal. I don’t understand what Pep means here.
Things like this make it more exciting when both teams meet again later
“ THIS IS ANFILED “ in Leonidas Voice 😂😂
The greatest el classico these two clolubs right now
And it’s Anthony Taylor too… shocking.
Connor Moore needs to parody this!
Nah. He has that dirty habit of bringing the spit to the end of his tongue and then closing his mouth. He does it all the time. Even in the presser.
@@justsaying1818 It's absolutely disgusting 😂😂
Pep actually confirms klopps arguement that the ref was not adequate for a game of this level and let citys fouls to be played on... But not the goal he says... Which had at least two offensive fouls one on fabinho and one on Alison
That's why var exists pep
The ref set the bar high for calling a foul. But when the goal came , suddenly the bar wasnt that high.
Thats his point. Ref was inconsistent
@@fridtjofsvinddal6526
The fouls that lead to a goal MUST be called and that's why var is there for
The ref was not inconsistent
He said game on when mci scored
And he kept it that way all game long
Bsilva last night should be booked as a minimum
And I'm not referring when he threw Salah on the ground on his shoulder
If you can't foul like ramos then simply don't
@@fridtjofsvinddal6526 the foul led to a goal though. It was always going to be disallowed, that's the whole point of VAR........
Totally agree game should have been 1-1
Yeah the ref didn't hang around, he walked off pretty quick when he seen JK lol
refused to shake hands even. Not sure I've ever seen that.
Anthony Taylor did play on and allowed the goal in the first instance - consistent with his comms to the teams.
VAR was brought in to correct mistakes by the officials, especially the important ones. VAR interfered correctly in this instance.
The application of the rules and VAR was carried out correctly IMO.
Disallowed goal , should have been a corner anyway. karma.
It's the best league in the world with the worst official's - has been for a long time.
You want to tell me Pep didn't know Klop would wear his signature puff jacket
I dont even have to watch the match highlight or look at the comment section to know that it was probably Anthony Taylor
Let the music play on, play on, play on, play on.....
Klopp didn't complain TAA handballs during 2019-20 PL
Of course! That's the rule created as a result of var. The initiator of goal was a foul as var showed. And it's not play on play on play on, as if 5 minutes passed!
top class from both sides
Anthony Taylor.. straight to nationwide league
The standard of referees and VAR in the Premier League is absolutely shocking
Bernardo Silva went full on WWE on Salah with no foul given lol
Was play on play on until VAR step in...
They agreed to "play on and play on"that is understandable. But I think they agreed on that when a foul is against you, you can choose not to stop and play on. NOT WHEN YOUR PLAYERS FOUL to score a goal. Correct me if I am wrong. That is why VAR is there. But honestly all the referee decisions today were against Liverpool. Is Taylor a new city fanboy. I think it's the bitterness from Pep about City being state club with unlimited resources and still not managing to beat strugling Liverpool at Anfield. So he finds excuses to make Liverpool look corrupt. Absurd. City lost fair and square and might have lost even heavier.
Take your red tinted sunglasses off pal. Plastic
When Chelsea complained about Anthony Tailor all my Liverpool buddies laughed and acted like we were bitter. Now you know right ?
I doubt that cuz we (Liverpool fans) have been harmed in every big game this man referee in the last 5 years.... so your team and you are just joined us yo the party... We were maybe laughing because no ones listened when we complained in the past and now that it happened to yall we giving you guys the same treatment 🤣😂🤣
Not sure how Anthony Taylor is even a referee.
Gotta laugh at media stoking controversy over intense match and highly committed managers.
A few weeks back the narrative was 'LFC v Citeh is not rivalrous enough. Players n managers admire each other too much" !
This isnt the only match that this sort of thing has happened in too, so many occasions. Games go play on play on play on, then in one of the instances a team score and OH then its a foul check. Why dont we just foul check every play on then if thats what we're going to do...
Not every play on leads to goal. And to stop a match for every foul would be boring to watch, it's reserved for only the most decisive ones and rightly so.
@@fromthefountofyouth But what i'm saying is, if in these mulitple scenarios in these games happen AND it wasn't obvious enough in the first instance, WHY are we checking back on it in these decisive moments. Isn't that just a huge lack of consistency? *Edit - If so how isn't this lack of consistency an issue? *
@@matthewturvey563 Because ALL GOALS are checked by VAR for legitimacy. How can you not know this? How do you think tight offside calls are made? Or fouls and hand balls in the lead-up to goals amd other major infractions made?
Anthony Taylor big L moments
Klopp saw red in many ways, just play on play on play on is of course dangerous for the kind of high intensity pressing that both teams are known for.
This play on BS needs to stop, if it's an obvious foul then stop the play and give the free-kick...
Remember united vs arsenal game?
Guardiola figure 🐧
The referee wanted to be the cool referee who doesn't whistle much. But he went too far with it.
I am not sure I understand what is the point Guardiola is making. ?
Not even the worst referee in the league, that's how bad refereeing is in this country. Embarrassing..
I'm a Liverpool fan, and we clearly got let off by VAR.
Anyone can see that if that happened anywhere else on the pitch it would have just played on.
VAR just makes normal stuff seem abnormal...... after it has been rehearsed.
Sarcastic this is Anfield chant. 😏
Maybe the referee was also unhappy with the Coachs!
This is Anflield or this is Spartaaaa? 😂 Ref was a bit confused
Anthony Taylor can’t keep getting away
im not both the fans in my opinion all the reffree of EPL are not so experted as compair to the other league reffree...It show that when the ucl was play they never got called to refree in UCL
Anthony Taylor again??
No surprise at all, that's Anthony Taylor. What can we expect? 😂
That is nonsense Pep
Anfield is always tough for any opponent.. It doesn’t make matters any better with a ref like that… but glad we got our 3 pts.😅
To the thief who stole my mattress, I won't rest until I find you
It's always entertaining to see pep whining.
i dont know refs but Taylor is the name that keeps circulating
Antony Taylor.
i could not believe my eyes, this referee was the worst
Bread and entertainment
This referee must be banned permanently!
As a Chelsea Fan i know what Pain ist is if Anthony Taylor is on the pitch ...
If both managers are not happy so that means Taylor was at fault.. klop is free of charge .. FA must sort out this problem.
City fan
We played bad that being said
Anfield is always a tough place I feel for brighton
Anthony Taylor don’t ever referee for city or pools game again
Poor referee.....need to do something
Referees need to be publicly accountable. Everyone in football but refs have to explain themselves in the media postgame. Officials will get more respect when they have the courage of their convictions and aren’t allowed to hide.
Why many people quit refereeing, because they have to work within a brutal and unforgiving environment that is broken and in which often only one side of the entire stadium is silently appeased, while the other half is threatening to meet you in the parking lot.
A single game should probably not ruin an entire career, but what he did that night was really looking like he tried the best to accomplish that
He thought he could do to us what he did to Man Utd! He’s unhappy his top scorer helped us by fouling Fabinho!
Lpool defended deep manutd played fire with fire and the results show that, ten hag naively thought he could play toe to toe with city and paid the price, lpools high line was nowhere to be seen defended deep and then hit the ball long on the counter
@@user-uw1dn9oh4k The high line was one of the reasons I backed us to win this match; in the past we have been easily able to get in behind, but Liverpool didn’t have that today
only BPL VAR is so amazing... and dramatic
Refereeing in England has no consistency and sooo slow in decisions...it's so annoying like this...I'm wondering why the people especially in England give no voice at all🤔😣
All I know is that these two manager are absolute legends....2 of the top 3 to EVER do it.
What's the argument here btw? Pep wants the ref to play on even when his players foul the opponent? What even?
@@free7816 if that's the case then VAR shouldn't exist at all. Why they give penalties and why do they check offsides?
did guardiola just blame anfield? if this would be a goal then there is no point of referees. dude just said that crowd disallowed goal xD
You just know the referee had a bad game when both managers are complaining
They are arguing like little kids. Absolutely nothing far from the truth how would look a manager of a champion, not relatable with the old school legends like SAF.
Referees should be fined for bad mistakes especially as they can use VAR. No excuses. It's happening a lot.
Both managers let themselves down - at least Klopp owned his mistake whilst Pep’s rant was pathetic.