Oz Noy On Learning Complex Arpeggios By Feel
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- How do great players learn complex picking movements on their own? The amazing Oz Noy explains, in his trademark supremely chill fashion, how he finds his way through complicated picking sequences by searching for the smoothest possible motion. www.troygrady.com/interviews/o...
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The way he blends string skipping, alternate pickin and sweeps and makes it look effortless is really inspirational.
Arpeggios are so pleasing to the ear. Diminished are my favorites.
I love Oz Noy. No messing around, he is so natural and goes straight to the point.
I love that he's not geeking out about if he's sweeping or not. The idea is to get it done to make the music you want to hear.
Oz Noy is breezing right through these arpeggios like it ain't shit lmao
Your pursuit of understanding combined with your comfort with conversing with such high talent is outstanding. These guys seem to respect you for your search and your talent. Great job!
A new generation of players, no longer forced to listen to albums over and over guitars in hand attempting to analyze and replicate what they're hearing.
Now we have YT and thus Troy Grady with an easily digestible visual format for all things technique.
Thank You
Rockband and Guitar Hero have spawned a shred renaissance. This is good for the industry, as those future prodigies figure out what they're into beyond shred, we will see some true pushing of the instruments capabities.
I can't explain why, but I love this guy's temperament.
Oz is the best.
Michael Ryan It may be the complete lack of bullshit in his approach, works for me...👍
He's super condescending, how can an attitude like that appeal to the people here? Why would an artist purposely ignore the intricacies of technical skill? He himself said that mechanics are a tool, so why is he so rude about people wanting to explore them more deeply?
A ridiculous person
rude? condescending? I don't see that at all.
Andy Pollow He wasn't condescending. But he was trying to make the point that technique isn't an end unto itself, it's a means to make music. It's possible to be too concerned about the mechanics. These days too many people treat technique like an Olympic sport, much to the detriment of musicality.
Totally effing incredible blessed to learn something here from a humble cool great musician.
What an amazing person,he is very honest and humble about his playing.a lot to learn from this short clip.
Totally - Oz is super chill and very open about letting us film what what he does, even though he himself does not nerd out on the mechanics.
I just became an Oz Noy fan!! That "technique should just be a tool to get your music across" statement helps my playing.
One of the things that really improved my playing was memorizong many areas to play each conventional chord shape. Like a D shape played at the 8th fret instead of the 3rd is a different G voicing, or an E shape at the 5th fret is also a G (lazy barre chord) or an A shape, at the 12th fret is also another G, or a C-shape with the root at the 10th fret is another G chord, very similar to the previous D shape at the 8th fret, but with a lower root, and no B note from the high e string.
Once you can do that, and then remember your basic chord progression for the particular key you are plating in you're all set. Learining to string them all together, deciding when to end the current shape, and where/how to start the next one and getting your muscle memory trained to just grab those little metal bars strictly by how they feel is like making magic happen the first time you do it, and then when the improvisational skill catches up, and you know you can confidently jam with 90% of radio music its like magic....again.
Watching him lament the difficulty connecting them all hit me...hard. As a fellow non-sweeper (not a good one, anyway) I felt it.....right here (points to heart......with misty eyes). I can down sweep okay, but the upsweeps comtinue to elude me.
First 5 seconds in and I knew I was going to hear some satisfying arpeggios
Oz is cool , love his music an style .
Very cool dude/unique style👍🎸
Great tone!
Great video
"Maybe, I don't care about that" - I love you Oz
I firstly hear this dude from Tom Quayle and I found that Oz is truly great player and teacher
Excellent! Troy, have you thought about analyzing Takayoshi Ohmura's picking? I think that he is amazing at circular picking.
Fantastic
Oz Noy is like a really sick Star Wars name
I don't know the guy but he said the only 2 things any musician should care :
1-"Music!"
2- Who cares how you play that like that or this like this,the way you play it is the best way because it's your way,even if you don't know how you play it.
Hey troy, have you thought about analyzing jimmy rosenberg's picking? He seems to use the standard gypsy picking technique but he's incredibly fast (eg. Solo on 'Made for Wesley')
"Doing triads or arpeggios on guitar is the hardest thing to do."
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!
Hello, Troy. It would be interesting to know your opinion about the difference when playing sitting and standing and some advice about it. Position of arms, hands, plectrum, etc... Greetings from Spain.
Tim Miller has develop an interesting approach for playing arpeggios.
you should do a video with him
Consider Ben Monder. Probably need a camera on his left also. Haha
Oz is like the anti Steve Morse.
He economy picks everything hahaha
hes like Gambale
Ya, way more my thing than alternate and dig in like morse
i admit i like both techniques. i use economy picking mostly.
how long did you have to practice those runs? 1000 hours or more?
Dayum
Everyday I hope that troy Grady will analyze legato like he does with picking. I would pay and donate for it but I just lost my job,I will donate to him when I get my life back together though.
Oz Noy is Fuckkng hilarous- love this
He is!
"Looks like you're using sweep picking" "Yeah....I don't care"-Oz
He kind of reminds me of people who say that they don’t care anout theory since bob dylan or keith richards didn’t. Even though he doesn’t play in the 80s shred way it’s kinda technical.
That's what Yngwie said. "If it sounds good?...!"
Organic!
Feels good to play with low Action?
Please, Troy. For the love of all things good in the world...stop releasing videos when I have things I need to do. They're too good to "ignore till later".
Hahaha, seriously, keep up the amazing work.
Much love,
-E
Seriously. One of the shittiest things in my life right now is the fact that I'm presently too poor to subscribe to masters in mechanics and spend all of my time watching Troy's videos.
@@Iskaral_Pust He's brilliant.
Pickslanting, sweeping and crosspicking in one, Holy Jesus Christ!
Very like frank gambale
"I don't have time to find out why it works..." - I think if you worry about time spend, figuring out why it does work, will save time in the end.
He reminds me of this Russian guy that comes into my work (gym).
sweeps/economy
He plays like gambale sweep
I think this is the closest I've seen to my own approach. There's no real formula, it's just feel and following the path of least resistance. When starting fast runs I'm still not sure if I always start on an downstroke or upstroke. I have worked out that it's always downstroke on string change descending and reverse ascending.
Dawai
Interesting, his bridge height keeps increasing (low E is highest string) and does not follow the common bow (radius) pattern. :)
Check again...
Troy basically this guy is saying " im just playing man what do you want from me leave me alone"🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good picker but can he tremelo pick?
If you use alternate picking, this does not matter:)
0:48 "If I play a G triad...it sucks". Oz Noy 2018
Oz is the best!
Please ask FRANK GAMBALE! (I love Oz anyway)
Oz is great! And I supposed you haven't seen this yet: czcams.com/video/GVIw2Fe1RZw/video.html
oz noy is taking jabs at troy lol
Why do pick up alternate and going down economy!!! I never really sat down to practice this. I learned by playing songs.
Don't over think it, kid. Just simply practice.
Spent six years on that, didn’t work. And that’s just too long. If you’re a genius like Oz, more power to you. Oz is the best! For the rest of us, there’s teaching.
Marshall Harrisons arpeggios are the best in the world amongst guitarists.
Don't forget jason becker.. damn is right to know that
nick johnson is a beast too
Vanguard Who cares? His playing is nauseous. Oh sure, ya play that many notes and you're bound to play a few that sound good together. But for the most part, it's unmusical, uninteresting, and very unpleasant.
@@fretbuzz59 not really, and you must not be a guitarist....
Tony Barber Yes, really. And I am a guitarist, which is why I recognize the emptiness of the sort of playing.
He missed the memo that troy solely cares about the physical movements of his right hand. Let this b a lesson to everybody who cares too much about the mechanics. In the end. Nobody cares aside those who think they aren't musicians if they can't play paul gilbert picking licks. What really matters is can u write a cool melody using the mechanics u develop over time even if you never leave your bedroom. Just show me the melody.
Bang Absolutely agree. I recently gave up on my intense technique practice after fifteen years of trying to be as clean and fast as possible. Now I focus on rhythm, melody and expression. I wish I had done it sooner... that’s what music is about.
@@Dooality I totally agree! Take a player like Michael Schenker, or Uli roth
their solo's are all very melodic and have a rhythmic feel and he NEVER
sat around thinking about what their hands were doing. IF players want to focus on the mechanics of playing then that is up to them, i am more into what you said above.
@@These_go_to_eleven_1959 but to b fair this channel is all about mechanics but it should stress that mechanics is just that. It's neat to see troy go and film all these guys right hands but it shouldnt be somebody's only purpose unless they don't have anything to say. Some people can't write even with expensive school training behind them so they focus solely on how fast and clean they can get something
I think the most important thing is musical expression. If what you play is the same as what you had in your head, be it shred licks with flawless technique or a slow melodic line, then you're doing something right.
I notice that Oz is using Boris Johnsons BEHIND THE CAPO technique....... What? It's not a CAPO?
"If I play a G triad it sucks" !! LOL
I don’t care about that stuff he says hahahahaha Epic
He’s ours 🇮🇱
Oz is classic virtuoso player who can't teach a damn thing he does- just "you can do this" "then try this" LOL!!
That's an interesting point of view but he actually can teach what he does very clearly - the rub is that the execution of the techniques and concepts he uses comes much more easily to him than to almost anyone else - also his time is excellent and that's kind of built in to his DNA
Looks like Homer Simpson
That's a Homer Simpsonesque comment.
You must be snorting your shirt too much dude!
So many players today have amazing technique. However, their music is not something I listen to and enjoy. Not bashing this guy or anyone for that matter. He even states that technique should only support making good music. Just my observation that most of these great guitar players do not have hits and recordings you can listen to for a lifetime.
ok, ok....
He's obviously spent countless hours focusing on theory and technique. Why does he feel the need to lie about it?
Elite players like Oz very often don't think about the actual hand motions consciously. They feel their way through it. This is typical among the many players we have interviewed - they're not lying. Music theory on the other hand, conscious. Oz thinks a lot about that and we discussed this extensively in our talk.
if you wanna learn arpeggios study the great classical and jazz pianists. why do guitarists only study guitarists?
learn to read music and study the masters. work out the problems and thats how you build your technique.
Vanguard good guitarists study singers
no they don't. which singer did you have in mind?
Becaus this video is purely from a technical point of view, you can't learn guitar technique from a pianist.....
Vanguard well I suppose that depends what kind of music you want to play
Mark Felts Exactly.
Great player. Not a great teacher.
His instructional videos are quite good.
He`s a absolute top-teacher. His knowledge about music-theory, jazz, blues and rock is AWESOME !
not a truefire member I take it