I Took my Cybertruck OFF ROADING! (I broke it) | Newbie's Cybertruck Off Roading Initial Perspective
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- Today we our Cybertruck off roading for the first time! I provide my initial impressions and perspective as someone who is new to the sport!
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That scrappy Subaru kicked the Cybertrucks ass, I am dying laughing here
A bugman saying he expects a 100,000 dollar vehicle to "not be feature complete" and that a 'software update' may be needed to prevent it from sliding down a small incline is classic.
The future is wild.
I mean, what has Tesla been doing for the last 4 years? It's not like torque vectoring or locking diffs are new technology
@@trainiax
They have been carefully crafting the Cyber Truck hype. Achieving maximum hype is critical for more humans to tip back a huge jug of cool-aide and plunk down a deposit on a poser truck.
OTA to remove mud flaps is coming soon, along with AutoWash...
I thought his quick review was well done and maybe Tesla should get at least one star for being able to software update their products. My buddies F150 has the same hardware/software it had when he got it used in 2017…and it’s never will improve. I guess it’s all about perspective. If perfection is expected for a first release truck from a car manufacturer, maybe the CT probably isn’t for you.
You just scared everyone from ever buying a cybertruck but subarus stock just went up. Thanks. Enlightening video.
Every time someone is struggling, a Subaru comes along to make their day worse.
Or better if your the one driving the Subaru. Or someone spectating the Subaru.
Ive got to say. If you wanted to make an ad for how terrible the cybertruck is, you did it here. You made Subaru and Toyota look good too.
Not trying to pile on but I am shocked how bad it did. I have taken my Tacoma over harder stuff while still in 2WD.
Inb4 someone calls you a liar for that even tho they don’t know u and probably never drove a taco. But agreed, my 97 4r rarely needs 4Hi or lo on the trails.
I could take my Camry over those roads with no problem.
Thats what I was saying. Its one thing if it isn't able to get up the hill from a dead stop but he had momentum going into it. That thing should not be leaving the pavement until they make drastic changes. Lockers wont do a damn thing if it flat out refuses to send power down at all.
I have a very stock Front wheel drive 2000 Toyota Sienna set up for overlanding. It goes crazy places all the time. Snow, mud, creek crossing, etc. I know I could have gotten up that hill. It's steep, but he was trying to go straight up. You turn to follow the contour of the wash. It keeps all tires on the ground.
Even in 2-wheel drive, your Toyota Tacoma has a limited slip rear differential. Even if it lifts a wheel, it will still apply torque to the planted wheel. The Cybertruck, as equipped, has open differentials both front and rear. Its great driving in snow, but no good in terrain that causes axles to lift a wheel.
I love that a Subaru car with a inexperience driver there to out perform your 100k truck. An experienced driver could do this drive in a 2 wheel drive car.
“You don’t need to spend $80,000 to go out on the trails and have some fun” Every Subaru owner ever:”…yeah”
I got a factory 2018 forester and I can easily go through serious snow and ice and deep gravel through the everglades. I would be embarrassed if I see the cybertruck on an off road going with regular trucks. That thing belongs in a mall parking lot
I have a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek. I can pull a f250 diesel stuck in a mud hole that 3 jeeps couldn't get out of. Also, I can do just about anything a Jeep can do.
I'm not sure why the original article I got this video from was knocking a Subaru Crosstrek. They obviously don't know too much about vehicles.
Love my Subi! The best bang for your buck vehicles. Turned me into a brand loyalist!
Even if you want something arguably a bit more luxurious, my 2015 Volvo XC70 wagon has gotten past obstacles at least as tough as that little hill, and it cost less than half the price of the Cybertruck (admittedly, nearly 10 years ago). And just today I used it to pull a UPS truck that was stuck in the snow and mud in my yard back onto the driveway.
The XC70 isn't great in terms of angle of attack (longish nose), and of course it's longer than a small Jeep or Subaru (so easier to get hung up, or be unable to make a tight turn), while it has less ground clearance than a raised pickup. But as a light off-roader it beats the Cybertruck with no difficulty. And, frankly, based on that video, I think its software does a better job of controlling the differentials - just look at Cybie's lifted front wheel spin when it gets stuck.
I never once got stuck with my Subaru wagon, with regular tires, or my old Honda CRV, yes the the one with spare on the back, nor with my old Toyota Tercel wagon, with real 4x4 and a locking diff
I cant believe it has taken this long to finally get an off road video of this truck. Thanks sir
That's because most of the people who would buy these have never been out of Los Angeles.
In fairness you have to be pretty dumb to buy one of these.
It's not surprising that a Subaru is better off-roading than a Tesla. Subaru's reputation is well earned.
I bet the Subaru didn't even try with 50 PSI. That's 100% driver, 0% vehicle.
@@philippgeisler4590the driver was new to off roading too
@@vinytrungnguyen1734 I apologize if the Subaru ever had 50 PSI. Even for a newbie, he's doing this bad that I somehow assume that this is one of those plenty Tesla bashing videos. People are referring to this video to show, how shitty the Cybertruck is offroad. Don't get me wrong, I am not a Tesla fan, I just burned several minutes of my life with this video. Maybe, I'm unfair because a lot of the biggest offroad channels on CZcams are as bad and show the same ID-10-T errors.
“Here is my honest Cybertruck Review. Also, here is an ad for my business which is dépendant on people not thinking this thing is a piece of shit that any other truck in the world would have eclipsed up a minor hill”
I really loved when it couldn’t get up a hill but you’re certain a software update would make sure it could. Also “it went downhill fine!” Is amazing too. Fucking classic.
People spent so many years saying the Cybertruck is totally real and will absolutely be delivered tomorrow when fElon kept breaking all his promises. Those same people will tell you the same about all the features that should be there on day one. They never learn
Good to see that Tesla hasn't fucked gravity up and made it work backwards huh. Lol. It's mind blowing that it went down a hill.
@@k.a.c613 To be fair, it didn't catch fire when it went downhill or slammed into a bystander, so that is above our usual expectations from this company.
Exactly!
@@k.a.c613 With your support and help, Tesla can and WILL fuck up gravity!
You said a seasoned driver would do better with the Cyberjunk,but the Subaru driver was new to off roading.
Subie driver was ready to give it full send cos it’s pretty cheap. Which is exactly what any sensible off-road driver wants.
Both can be true
@davidroberts5199 the subie also actually works
Open diff toyota made it
Weak lol
Apparently what distinguishes a cybertruck from a regular truck is the need for extensive beta testing.
Well I’ve had one for years and it’s free for them to upgrades on software. It’s unholy expensive to upgrade a vehicles suspension. Just sayin
What do you call the regular recalls for ford , Chevy and dodge trucks ? Annually for decades … that’s what I call beta testing
@@groundhabit6408 My 06 CR-V that I got for $6000 can off-road better than a $100000 Cybertruck and that’s a fact. It also has more range and costs less to fix when I fuck it up, quite frankly the only thing the Cybertruck has on my junk heap is a working air conditioner, but outdoing Honda on air conditioning isn’t an achievement.
Cybertrucks are also distinguished by their beta drivers.
Oh, and I've been over that same bump in a 1964 VW Baja Bug.
4th Gen native Arizonan here. In the sixties, my mom would drive a good 40 mph on dirt roads all over the state in our Plymouth station wagon, sometimes with terrified &/or happy Cub Scouts on board.
We own a fair amount of desert land in the state. We got stuck once. It was quickly solved with pieces of mesquite, branches of creosote and an entrenching tool.
It seems vaguely ridiculous how useless this vehicle is for most applications. It seems best suited to sitting in a garage and be doted upon by those who have $120k plus to throw around.
For off-road, I'll take my RAV4 any day off the week.
*of the week
Don't forget the excess of $20K battery that will need to be replaced in eight to ten years. The Cybertruck battery pack weighs 3,100 pounds.
I hear ya. I grew up in the seventies, and my parents were drunk while driving back then. I used to own an old 91 Tercel, it could be driven on rougher roads then this.
So many non car people suddenly coveting teslas. Cringe to see them try to rationalize their uninformed purchase
Im underwhelmed by the truck. The hype did not meet reality. But. Much respect to the owner enjoying his purchase and not treating the truck as simply a trophy car to garage.
Only problem he had was that one spot and mudflaps breaking.....You still think that it didn't meet other's expectations???? Reeeeeally?????????????? He seemed to have a positive review of it.
I agree. Elon hyped the truck up and even stated something like: he was tired of the other car companies putting out a teaser car only to find out the final production was nothing like the one advertised (or words to that effect). Elon is playing the bait and switch game...like I've always said, Elon Musk is as slippery as an eel.
@@1flash3571 Do the windows break? Can you drive it on water? Are we pretending he didn't say that?
@@1flash3571 a spot that truck should have absolutely been able to crawl up. I'll blame that on the tires and how the software is controlling the motors. The front wheels are independently powered so they should absolutely have some take on torque vectoring.
The worst part of this all is the fact it's breaking traction and immediately the TC just emergency cuts power and then the truck has itself a big thonk.
@@1flash3571 "That one spot" that the Cybertruck got stuck at isn't even really an obstacle. It's just some loose gravel on a low, walkable incline.
Thing has zero suspension travel. @7:19 the way wheel just comes off of the ground shows it has no downward travel. It reminds me of taking a skateboard offroad.
This. 💯%
You mean a fridge off road ?
Also weighs way too much for off roading...
I'm really surprised just how poorly it performed there! dDiff lockers shouldn't really be needed in a situation like that too, lots of off-roaders don't even have them (that Subaru being a perfect example). To be honest though it looks more like something that could be fixed via software updates - I don't think the Tesla engineers probably have the experience programming off-road conditions compared that Rivian, for example.
It has attrocious traction control. We have seen several examples of this now. The torque always goes to the wheel without grip. Definitely needs a software update.
Most trucks could drive up that with open diffs, they just use the traction control for torque vectoring, essentially just applying brake to the spinning tire to force the opposite side to spin. Kind of pathetic there's an off road mode that doesn't have this basic functionality.
@@BlueScapegoat I assume that will eventually be fixed in software. It is obvious they shipped unfinished because Elon was triggered at being mocked for missing deadlines.
@@BlueScapegoat Both my 78 E-150 & my 91 Vanagon Westy have taken hills worse than that and they are 2WD. Yes I have a manual locking diff on the Vanagon & an automatically locking diff on the E-150, but I have taken worse hills without even bothering to lock the Vanagon's diff...
In short, if you buy a cyber truck, then you are a complete tool. After all that "full self driving" & other BS claims by Mr. Musk are typical of the Confidence Man that he clearly is. I hope that everyone in the US Boycotts Tesla until Musk is removed from the company, probably during bankruptcy. What gets me is that he is an Ignorant White Nationalist, as seen by his Tweet questioning the ability of graduates of African American Colleges to fly a Commercial Aircraft. It's as though Musk never heard of the Tuskegee Airmen: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen
@@TroySavary sometimes more that software is needed, and soon enough we will know. The "Off Roading" part is an after thought as was the towing.
Follow what the wheels are doing. The Toyota and Subaru both maintain good wheel to ground contact so can maintain traction. The Tesla reaches the extent of travel, wheel unloads and spins, then is left hanging in the air. All the software updates in the world won't help if the wheels can't stay firmly on the ground in this comparatively tame bit of landscape.
Limited suspension travel. Not good off road.
LMFAO! Cybertruck: "Oh driver's getting out, must be a supermarket. Go to car park mode!"
I would’ve made it up that hill in my Chrysler 300. lol
Dude…that tiny hill 😂 Tesla would have paid a lot of only for that video to not come out. That’s hilarious.
Cudos for actually taking this thing off-road. It did horribly on that hill. Really terrible. Traction control on any softroading AWD could handle that with brake based torque vectoring. I’d love to see a roller slip test to see what’s actually going on there.
To me though it looked like power was cutting out. Maybe the system protecting the motors. Which might explain why they aren’t allowing the diff to lock, the motors might not be able to take it. There’s more than one problem here for sure.
The motors might not be able to take it ... you're a clown who has no idea what he's talking about.
Not a power issue for sure 600HP are more than enough to climb even 90 degrees 🤣
Also the CT apparently has about zero negative articulation. Look at how early the front right tire loses contact with the ground. The control arms on this thing are far too short and belong on a sedan, not a supposed truck
@@StefanoFinocchiaroIt’s not about absolute power it’s about heat in the motors due to constant load. The system in most EVs will not allow you to cook the motors, it’ll cut power. There’s a cooling system but every system has a limit.
@@zenmail42 I think part of that is the air suspension being jacked up too. You see it on Landrovers/Range Rover when they’re at the higher settings. Higher you go the less flex. Though they manage to proceed no bother due to excellent traction control and sometimes diff locks. I guess being able to advertise an impressive ground clearance figure is more important to Tesla than actually being able to proceed on an off-road trail.
Subarus are amazing off-roaders…. Just shows even more how good they are. I’m honestly shocked at how bad the cyber truck preformed… also the lockers are not needed, Subaru doesn’t have lockers on any of their vehicles.
I love my 2018 Forester XT. ❤️
I really appreciate this guy's positivity.
Because holy shit my impression is that this truck sucks balls. Anyone who's driven a work truck in the bush is going to laugh at this.
Shit anyone who blasted through the bush in a 1980 chevette would not be able to relate to this joke of a off road vehicle.
It needs lockers enabled but the Subaru had no issues. Lol
It does weigh like 9k pounds.
Drop SS for aluminum and weight will drop significantly...
So lame that people are willing to be ok with a mediocre product just because they are in love with the creator😂😂
The ability to believe in something despite evidence or facts is one of humanity's greatest strengths and also it's greatest weaknesses. It allows us to achieve what may seem impossible but also allows us to live a life of complete delusion wasting away years of our lives and flushing our hard-earned money down the toilet.
Exactly what I expected from a rolling fridge hahaha
You have no clue or ever did anything but sit on the couch
@@johnnyadams5627 omg.. you really bought that fridge? Why else so angry 😅
Great video. All I can think is this truck is half baked. No locking diff, no auto pilot and missing so many features that were announced in 2019.
I haven’t watched the video yet (working on it) but I know for the tri motor at least it doesn’t have a rear locking diff becuase it’s two separate motors so they can do it with motor control. I think the front has a locking diff on the tri motor as well.
No clue about the dual motor though. But I recall Tesla saying that about the tri motor.
You think? But Elon promised!
Yes, doesnt have the off road capabilities, but can beat Porsche în a drag race
@@constantinnescu1564 iirc, that video was cut down and used a metric which isn't standard, or considered to be important.
@@constantinnescu1564turns out that was a slight of hand too. I don't have any citations off hand but google sure does. Go google it.
Look how stiff that suspension is. Wooooow.
It’s because it doesn’t have lockers yet.
@@TrumpAlwaysWins.Lockers won't help with articulation.
I came here to see if anyone was going to comment on lack of articulation. That front end was stiff as a board!!!!
@@decal510 Common on vehicles that use airbags to get ride height.
@@TrumpAlwaysWins. You live in a world where locking diffs magically softens suspension and increases articulation? cool
I bet you can get those new parts from Tesla for $12,000.
And you will have to wait six months.
If he dinged the battery, it’s going to be a lot more than that.
Don’t be dissing Crosstreks mate, they’re surprisingly good off road stock. I’ve done some really wacky shit in mine (granted, mine’s absolutely not a stock Crosstrek at all) and it has continued to impress me.
I took my Subaru Outback Wilderness to Hidden Falls after getting it and was quite surprised at how capable it is after seeing nothing but Broncos, 4Runners, and Jeeps out there
Have you ever been to the llano Texas outdoor event. I’ve been there 3 years in a row in my outback
Good on you, for honest assessment, and taking cybertruck off-road. Thanks
No problem! We need to be honest sometimes, even if the truth isn’t positive. It’s the only way things can and will get better!
@@VoyageATXIf only more Tesla owners weren't honest about shortcomings, rather than try to hide them or excuse them. Like you said, that is the only way it improves.
@@VoyageATXVery true and well done.
Unfortunately the more hateful crowd that believe in absolutes rather than nuance, will use this as a win against the CT and use it as part of their tirade against its existence.
@@VoyageATX Both my 78 E-150 & my 91 Vanagon Westy have taken hills worse than that and they are 2WD. Yes I have a manual locking diff on the Vanagon & an automatically locking diff on the E-150, but I have taken worse hills. crossed rivers, etc. without even bothering to lock the Vanagon's diff...
In short, if you buy a cyber truck, then you are a complete tool. After all that "full self driving" & other BS claims by Mr. Musk are typical of the Confidence Man that he clearly is. I hope that everyone in the US Boycotts Tesla until Musk is removed from the company, probably during bankruptcy. What gets me is that he is an Ignorant White Nationalist, as seen by his Tweet questioning the ability of graduates of African American Colleges to fly a Commercial Aircraft. It's as though Musk never heard of the Tuskegee Airmen: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Airmen
@@bazanime It's a win against Tesla and their half-assed product. This isn't the Cybertruck that was promised. At a lower price with more or same range (AWD CT) this would be acceptable. At $49K AWD this would be the one to get..... at $100K its atrocious....
Wow. I don’t know much of off-roading as a hobby, but my dad used to work as a TV broadcast antenna technician in the Chilean Atacama desert, and I accompanied him to work during summer vacation. I tell you: this thing wouldn’t have lasted 10 minutes on the roads my dad used to traverse on an old Suzuki Vitara.
😂😂😂😂 suzuki vitara that costs 15k.
Eh........laugh all you want but the Vitara is an OG in the offroad game. Would eat any and every Tesla any and every time.
No, not that Vitara. oG one,one that was actually 4*4 ...
Paying this much money for a half backed product..Musked
There's always a strange 'musk' detectable by nose with anything Tesla makes.
OP paid so much money to be a tester for Tesla... For a car they wont change.
??
What he probably means is that the owner paid so much for a car that is incomplete just like FSD is being tested yet they charge thousands for it 😬
They will literally change the car with software updates. The purchase is voluntary
@@Vlperine how can you watch videos about a car with barely any promised features and you see it's piss poor performance again other vehicles in class. Are you really thinking so little?
@@Vlperine yeah yeah updates. Funny all the shit it can't do that internet users promise is coming via an update. Why not test before releasing to market?
Did the other vehicles have to remove things ?
nope
They didn't need additional software either.
Crosstrek = no diff locker, and it did just fine 😊
Subaru ❤️
what's with the suspension? right wheel is completely off the ground going up a tiny incline.
Shitty suspension, too rigid and lack of torsion. Literally the 3 things needed for off roading.
nah man just wait for the software update like he said /s
@@k.a.c613 The subaru didn't need the first two and did just fine. :)
When you rise the height, you lose wheel range.
@@ForTehNguyen Air suspension can easily be adjusted through software correct. I mean it should of been on release day. They clearly only started making this truck to get the production ramp going as it takes 1-2 years to get it fully ramped especially for a truck with so much new tech... 4 wheel steering... 48 volts, steer by wire etc. You shouldn't buy this Truck on release. You are a beta tester!
If you go in knowing that you will be fine! At least with expectations. Also, you just know Tesla will drop their prices once they're pumping thousands of these out a week. So depreciation will suck. But again, if you're buying one you should of expected that. Same with the low range. Tesla just wants to get this Truck to the market. You bet the 500 mile version will come out in 1-2 years.
It is not designed to be a truck. More like a bloated golf cart.
That was less than impressive.
a 85hp fiat panda is even better than that super powerful electric truck lol!!
Seems the Subaru off road better it’s what I get from this video
Yep. That’s the way it always turns out. And you can “recharge” a Subaru with gas in 6 minutes.
"Hey, this car isn't really good - but I signed the NDA, so I have to pretend to like it"
Lmaooooooooo
The fact that it pops out of off-road mode when you get out of the vehicle is insane. It makes you wonder if any of the product designers have ever been off-roading before. In a technical situation with no spotter you are frequently hopping out to check your line. What a huge miss. Thankfully I assume it's easily patched with a software update.
Probably not but a software update is cheaper than a suspension upgrade😂
Are you trying o say that Elon is not in to rock climbing and crawlers? Hahaha
Ah yes, the old "I'm not sure the Subaru is gonna make it" and then it makes it. I've heard that a lot!
For $100k, I would definitely expect a feature complete car.
Very fair and honest video. It does not say much for the Cybertruck that a road car like the Crosstrek outperformed it off-road
That truck should be able to crawl up that incline. The tech is not new (Toyota ATRAC, Subaru brake vectoring, whatever magic Nissan does) and involves applying brake to the spinning wheel. I can't see it being any different than it would be on a ice awd vehicle unless you had the three motor variant.
It's got street tires on it.
@@bobholland9924 I wondered when someone would blame the tires😂.
@@bobholland9924baldys could climb that compacted dirt. The cyber truck just sucks at doing what trucks do. Also those are definitely AT tires. Should do the trick.
The fact that little subcompact AWD crossover made it up. Ouch.
Subaru gets the job done. And you can “recharge” it with gas in 6 minutes.
The Trunk did great going down hill, awesome! My goodness I’ll bet you bought one of those silly flamethrowers too!
I’ve off roaded there in my Ram 1500 4x4 with 2 inch lift and rear locker. Place is legit. And my son made it up to the top of that same peak with a 2wd Xterra. All Xterras have a limited slip rear diff and mine has a locking rear diff. Your truck couldn’t make it up without lockers while the Subaru could because of the weight. CT is probably 2x the weight of the Subaru. What I’ve learned is full size tucks with 4 doors do not make good off-roaders. They are too big and heavy. And also yeah, you will break something nearly every time you do it. But what they are great at is IF you find yourself wanting to go farther down that road that’s is muddy so you can keep exploring or you need to drive on snow and ice or you need to pull somebody out, they are great. To go purposely off roading, you want something skinnier and shorter and lighter, like a jeep. I love having 4wd on my truck because I can go way farther than 2wd, but it ain’t no Jeep Rubicon. Just like your CT, the weight, width, and long wheelbase will get it stuck. Glad u went to Hidden Falls though. That place is pretty cool. You should post how much juice it used per mile.
Except for the Rivian, which is an absolute beast off road and a 4 door full size truck.
@@jedalmolin1 Rivian is not a full size truck ... learn to use google. The reason why it didn't make it up has nothing to do with size anyway, this is just software tuning, it's sending all the power to the wheel without traction like any open diff.
Thank you for saying this. I've trying to figure out where this Myth came from that all Full Size Trucks should be able to this right out of the box. They are great platforms to modify to do this, but this isn't what their are designed for, with some exceptions.
Not a true fullsize truck, more like a midsize@jedalmolin1
Tesla are you watching? You got showed up by a Subaru 😂..you had 4 years between revealing to launching, and a small incline is the downfall! YO TESLA! 😅
The Subaru is designed through years of real world rally championships and not by a bunch of needs in an office :)
So stoked I don't have to wait for some magical update to show up when I need my truck to perform better.
Since you're new to offroading, let me go ahead and explain something to you. Every time you go out, you will end up with some sort of damage. That is why frequent off roaders take some modified old beaters and not some expensive new whatever. If you take a new vehicle off road, it will get damaged. That's just the way it goes.
Y'all hating so hard on this man??? Why?
He's just having fun with HIS car lol.
Yes it's underwhelming and yes the update should've been there already. Fair criticisms.
But cmon don't hate on him, it's a cool truck idc what y'all say
Haha thank you for the kind comment
@@VoyageATX much love man❤️🙏 Sick truck u got
Nice to hear your CyberTruck had no problems going downhill and splashing through mud.
With that giant, expensive battery underneath it, there's no way I would take the Cybertruck off-road without the bolt-on skid plates, which should be standard equipment but aren't.
I'm 90% certain my Mazda5 could make it up that with the right attach angle. Though I have a lot of off-road experience. This is just sad for any truck. I pre-ordered 2+ years ago and cancelled for a ton of reasons one of which being it doesn't even seem like a truck.
This truck has been such a let down from the range to off roading capabilities etc... I watched a video where someone got 90 miles towing a loaded trailer. 100% state of charge down to 2%. Unrealistic scenario as the truck isn't supposed to be charged to 100% frequently and no one is going to want to risk going all the way down to 2%. So maybe a more realistic scenario is around 70-80 miles while towing. So terrible. I am so disappointed in this truck. Battery technology needs further advancements before there will be a truck with enough range at an affordable price. At the moment this truck is more of a toy than a useful work truck unless you are a contractor who only works within city limits. Thoughts from a Tesla fan/investor and someone who grew up on a farm.
If you're towing they planned an extender so 140-150 miles. Most people aren't towing everyday, so you'd use your full range. But ICE better for heavy towing long distance.
He did the worst case scenario. Maxed out load , went fast, and freezing temperatures.
Some batteries you can charge to 100%, cybertruck truck type you can.
@@Abebe345 The alleged extender is 16kW. Is you do basic math, it will add literally 13.3 miles given the watts per mile that the CT was consuming during that tow video. 16000/1200 = 13.3. It's absurd.
@@Abebe345Great, another sixteen thousand bucks to get,maybe , another 100 miles 😂.
@@Abebe345 Unfortunately it is a terrible solution as it costs an additional 16k ( I would rather just buy an additional used HD truck for my towing needs at that price point ) and if you are towing a heavy load, going by the video I watched I can expect around a third of that range so 50 miles additional on top of the 90 he got for a total of around only 140 miles while towing. Not to mention it takes up a third of the bed. I won't always need the additional range for towing, but I need the full bed quite often. Unfortunately once this extender is installed it does not sounds as if it will be easy to remove. You will most likely have to go down to the Tesla service centre and schedule an appointment and pay a fee each time you want it removed and reinstalled. I am honestly confounded at why they would not just offer a Cybertruck with a 200 kWh battery pack. Tesla is great at a lot of things, but this effort shows they are not yet truck experts like GM and Ford. Hopefully they will continuously improve the vehicle until it becomes a viable work truck option. Fingers crossed.
My old 1971 VW bus was one of the best offroad vehicles I have owned. I took that thing places it never should have gone and never got stuck or broke anything.
My ‘76 Beetle also did pretty good off-road and in snow.❄️
We’re glad y’all had a fun time! Seen a few electric vehicles out here and even had Tesla out testing their diff lock software and comparing it to yours it was handling the terrain better. Definitely has the power, would be interesting to see them with a lift and ability to shut off the rear wheel turning (saw that cause the tires to shift off line).
Also they lost their mud flaps too😂
Well done! Thank you for showing us your experience.
Yes, they showed that the CT is a pathetic truck when being used on bad roads, just as it's pathetic for haul building materials, towing a trailer or even being used on a road trip. Tesla is even more overrated than Honda. For the price you could buy a Chevy Bolt for daily use, a Jeep for off road and save enough for a down payment on a new house...
Lockers!!!! Tesla can not give you "software" lockers. Ask Subaru, Ford, Landrover or any other manufacturer. That Subaru got up with band-aids. Bronco and Wrangler have front and rear lockers. Explorer and Grand Cherokee do not. Some pickups have options for front lockers.
Mud flaps should be spring retracted instead of hard bolted and required to remove for off-roading.
Mud flaps are actually for aerodynamics more than deflecting mud.
"Airing down to 30psi"
Damn thats still high and what I keep my truck tires at daily for on/offroad. I air down to around 15-18psi when offroading
Yea, noticing that we should have gone further. Good feedback, will do for next time! Thanks for the comment!
@@VoyageATX I commented before watching the whole thing.
Great video, i've been eyeing the subaru as a winter beater and this video made me want that a little bit more!
Milwaukee makes a decent portable air inflator if you already use their tool lineup.
They have no problem inflating large offroad tires and will do fine with regular sized vehicle tires.
There are other standalone ones that use your vehicles power as well, they all seem to work and get to desired PSI, but vary between how fast they fill up. Some also need you to remain hands on, others are a set to desired PSI and walk away, it will auto shutoff when it hits.
Just for context, From Canada, i drive a 2010 Ford Ranger on 33x12.5 all terrains on a 15x8 wheel, for deep snow around 2-3 feet I've gone down as low as 8 psi without issue (debeading a tire), that was on flat level ground and not bouncing sideways into or out of ruts. Normally between 10-20 psi depending on terrain.
I have a Viair 88p (think I got it from Amazon for about $60-70), does a tire from 10-30 in about 3 min.
Weird that you have to remove mud flaps. The Japanese SUV makers are shaking their heads. LOL!
And remove the wheel covers or they fall off.
I'm impressed. A practical, utilitarian vehicle that's also pretty capable offroad.... Might just get a Crosstrek as my next vehicle.
Honestly, it’s funny, we were all saying the same thing at the end of that day haha! It’s a great car!
lol 😅my $1400 1996 Toyota truck could make it up that hill without a struggle
Hey ATX neighbor. I love seeing Hidden Falls ADV Park on YT, my Land Rover and I are out there quite often. Just wanted to say thanks for picking up your plastics! So many times we have to stop and pick up someone else's body parts because they're too scared or embarrassed to get out and get them, and they leave the trails looking junky af. I'd say Welcome to an Expensive Hobby, but given the MSRP of your rig... you already know.
the thing i really hate with tesla is that they really never made a hardcore offroad video, it was all about 0-60 which no one cares about in the truck community! just look at land rover, they have an offroad training center no joke!
I can't wait to see the first EV nerd who's never been off-roading haul one of these out to Moab.
It's rather obvious they didn't even listen to truck owners and off roaders.
@@MotoGPatrickthat’s because Elon knows better. /s
Well, it was built in Texas by a lot of Californians...what do you expect?...@@MotoGPatrick
@@williammiller5575I'm surprised it doesn't run on avocado toast and Starbucks.
Theres a vid of one going up hells gate no problem. But it clearly sucks in this one so idk what to think.
Mud flaps are behind the wheels to prevent spray, and aero fairings are in front to reduce drag. Tesla is using correct terminology, and so should you from here on, for the viewer's sake. Nice video; I agree with your complaint about unwanted settings changing when you get out. It should only reset after power off or provide a Nag screen asking you if you want to stay in a precious setting, like my F-150. Looking forward to your next video.
I thought this video was very fair. I'm looking forward to watching more of your adventures.
Well, you and your buddies went on easy trails, glad you had fun. Basic off road can be done by almost any 4x4 or all wheel drive. Its about having fun.
Aweosme video, been loving seeing all the stuff you’re finding out ab the truck!
Thanks so much! So much more to come!
This is what happens when you let 20 somethings with little experience design stuff and not bother actually testing it properly.
This is hilarious! You spent 100k on a electric trashcan. I'm not a ford guy but the ford raptor R is 100% a beast for off road
Thanks for sharing!
To be fair, the mudflaps on my tacoma got destroyed when I went offroad as well but it was definitely on a more technical course than that. I just run flap-less now.
As you should! That’s been the consensus
The trick is to trim the mudflaps before they get destroyed. As they will still work if you cut three to four inches off the bottom...
One of the best mods you can do to an offroad truck is removing the mud flaps. Also the side steps if equipped.
swap em for sliders @@R_C_x
I agree. Besides, I think the truck looks BETTER without them.
I would be really interested in an electric Subaru or a boutique electric dune buggy. Not an off-road guy but agree initiating diff locks really seem like they'd solve a lot of those lose little hill bumps. I don't have any on my truck and rely on momentum and careful pre-planning. And luck.
The current electric Subaru sucks, don’t do it.
@@Grant5321 Yeah, that platform is used by Subaru, Toyota and Lexus. All reviews for them are awful. EV is NOT the future. It has a place but it's not the overall solution.
The Cybertruck is literally just a meme by now.
To be fair, the Subaru Crosstrek best’s a lot of other vehicles out on the trails. The best of class AWD system and small size of that vehicle makes it extremely capable
Luke Skywalker: What a piece of junk!
Han Solo: Yeah.
Thanks for showing us this and having the balls to off-road your expensive new truck. I agree with you that all of the problems you had can and will be fixed with software updates and nobody is better at over the air software updates than Tesla. I have an old beater Jeep Grand Cherokee as my off road toy. The hobby of off-roading can suck you in and there is no limit to the depth of it. No matter how well you build your rig there will always be someone with a more capable rig. Something to realize is every mod you make for better off road performance will make it perform worse at other things. So what I'm trying to say is it's OK to have a truck with finite but reasonable off road capability and be fine with it. Your truck is plenty capable and will get better with updates. I use my Jeep to go to cool places as opposed to the hard trail being the destination in itself. So a 2" lift and 31" tires is all of my mods and it is more than capable enough for what I'm doing. I look forward to whatever adventures you find in the new truck.
Thanks for the work reviewing the truck. It really does looks like something made by Traxxas.
This was an excellent video! Subbed!!
Tesla should comp you for those flaps considering the lack of info in the manual..
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to remove a few screws ...
Very true, but, you need to KNOW it's necessary to remove them in the first place!@@boostav
They're not mud flaps, they're aero fairings.
That’s what I thought as well 👏🏽
Good work. You seem fair and objective. Like you really want to inform people and not just grind an axe.
Appreciate it! That’s the goal. I also want the product to improve!
Also see if you can add add on like an electric winch or a bull bar skid plate
I just don't understand why the suspension is so stiff, I thought this thing was supposed to be a beast at off-roading
Because they used the wrong parts to make their crappy electric truck.
GM & Ford have made decent electric trucks, but Tesla made garbage...
@davidhollenshead4892 There are no decent electric trucks. Maybe a hybrid between a car and truck, but no EV 'truck' in the market can touch an actual truck. And the millions GM and Ford are losing with their EV experiment is all you need to see on how well it worked out for them.
Because it’s air suspension. Yes, it can raise and lower the vehicle, but to raise it needs to increase the pressure in the system which has the same effect as having very stiff springs, therefore reducing articulation. It’s all well and good travelling over obstacles, but if your wheels are lifting then traction is going to suffer.
And it was supposed to have 500 mile range, a loading ramp, and lower cost. 😂
It's easy to have an software update to deal with this problem. But the Subaru dont need any
Maybe can add some of those wireless dash buttons and assign them to off/on-road mode? Agree though Tesla really needs to make the toggle persistent and an easy one button press from the shortcut bar.
Great video, thanks!
Musk: 'Buy the $100k car, ignore the faults, live in the pod, eat the bugs.'
Musk fanbois: 'OMG, the perfect life!!!'
Poor wheel articulation, road biased tyres, and no difflock will kill offroad performance. This is definitely a more road biased trucks which is fine. You just got to accepts the compromises - something that performs very well offroad is usually awful on the road...
Also dont forget that the CT got double the weight of the other vehicles... Which doesnt really help on climbing
The whole "diff locker" b.s that Subaru is only AWD no locker this truck is useless across the board. Thank you for the clarification
First of all- I am not a fan of the Cybertruck but am not a Tesla hater. I also a Subaru Outback owner.
Thanks for posting this and being honest with what you have found out about it.
What I am seeing is a company (Tesla) that did not do its homework, does not apparently understand the market (offroaders and boondockers) and was more interested in the radical looks than the capability of the design.
I think your money would have been better spent on the Rivian if you wanted an EV truck.