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This LiTime 3000 Watt Pure Sine Wave Inverter Is Amazing!
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The AC output drops to 101Vac when you had the 2000W loads on, I do not think that it has good AC regulation.
I got this unit last week after seeing Mike's video when it released. Been testing it myself and it does indeed appear to be RFI quiet. I get a bit of RF noise with my 705 and a small whip antenna a few inches from the inverter. But the noise all goes away after stepping about 5-8ft away with the 705 (as a handheld with the battery). Thanks again for the review Mike!
Do you know if the cooling fan is variable speed with the temperature or if it's full speed on and off with temp rise - thanks
A real good and enjoyable review. Especially like to see what a typical refrigerator draws. Thanks.
That's cool Mike, thanks for the video on it. Hard to argue with that price
Hi Mike,
Missed the premiere, was watching the DX Engineering live stream. That LiTime looks to be well built and I like that it is RF quiet. I put it on my Amazon Wish List. 73 WJ3U
👍🏻 Thanks Mike!
Nice touch using your own videos as backdrop!! this is like when you go into the video equipment store 🙂
Haha, well I'm certainly not going to play The View!
Just purchased one of these after seeing your review. To be honest, I also have a LiTime/AmperTime 200ah battery, so I am familiar with their products. Was going to install a competitors 2000w inverter on my RV (with 460w of solar), but its wireless remote wasn't working properly. The Li Time website offered a 15% Father's Day discount, so it was a no-brainer! Side note, my 1500w modified sine inverter does run my RV just fine, including the microwave, but I get a hum coming from the GFCI outlets.
Very nice test. I currently have a 1000 watt Renogy pure sine wave inverter but i need a bigger one. LiTime 3000 Watt Pure Sine Wave Inverter will be my next purchase (after getting a second LiFePo4 Power Queen battery) Greetings from Jamaica.
Going off your review. Pressure is on. The best price I could find was on LiTime's website. I could not locate the amazon deal. Maybe because I am just a customer. But I bought this for $233 which to me is a screaming deal. I have seen 1500w inverters go for this much. Going to mount it in my offroad suburban. Power up my laptop LOL. Thank you for the time and energy to make this video. Its what I have been looking for. Just had not pulled the trigger. I need a good antenna switch any videos coming up to help me haha
That's awesome I'm glad to hear. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
great video.
Thanks!
11:20 103V w 1320W load is pretty bad voltage drop, if you had to use an extension cord it may sag low enough to brown out devices. I've got a Ampeak 1200w pure sine inverter that runs rock steady 110V even overloading it with a (1500w resistive load portable skillet) until it shuts down for over current protection. It'll run a1200W ceramic space heater continuously. I'm not a HAM guy so I haven't tested the RF noise, I can't speak on that aspect. I like LiTime and have multiple batteries from them. Y'all have a good one.
That's due to the voltage drop in the very high quality copper clad aluminum wire I was using. I have better wire now.
That was great ! was wondering on that inverter for RFI noise. to us HAM's this is a must. very few reviews show the RF noise. that included wire is for lights loads on inverter. full load will be around 300 amps. not just wire AWG and length the BMS in battery if a factor as well. 73's
I'm surprised the Bioenno battery held up that good. I only used the 1 100amp battery when the microwave was running and it was pushing ~135 amps! That's pretty crazy. But also why I didn't use the included wire, though their intention is to use both of them doubled up. I still need better wire. Even though I used 1/0AWG, it's copper clad aluminum which is not the best, and the good stuff is freakin' expensive!
Nice!!!
Great video. Any chance you might be reviewing Li Time’s 3000watt inverter/charger?
thanks for sending me the link to this. The 3000 is to big for my Van, well it would fit but I think the 2000 is better fit I hope it works the same as the 3000 as far being rf quiet
All we can do is hope. From what limited experience I've had with LiTime testing both this 3000 watt inverter, and their 100ah battery, czcams.com/video/LQ5Sy61w7D4/video.html I would say they are legit. Fortunately, if you order from Amazon and it sucks, you can always return it. I wish you the best. 73.
Need to test the output to see if it's really a good sine wave and if it's clean. A bad wave from can damage electronics
If it could run for extended period of time past 3,000 watts as the company claims it, then it would have been amazing.
That might be useful on FD or extended POTA Activations, I have a gas powered whole house generator for home
Oh absolutely. Especially if your generator puts out a lot of RRI.
That's A Lotta Watts!
I need ALL THE WATTS!
Great deal...
Gotta keep your cigar humidor powered in a grid down situation!
#priorities
I had been using Xanax true sign wave inverter's and trace PV2000FC 2 step modified sign wave inverters for yrs - there both FCC class A part 15 inverters -
They also maintain a constant voltage of 115 volts and 120 volts on lead. Acid battery's down to 10.5 volts -
I bought a LiTime 3 kw inverter after seeing this video -
I hooked it up to my lead acid battery bank - i have a very large battery bank and can run my house off it for 6 days and charge one day a week -
I did notice that as the battery bank discharged down close to 11volts the AC voltage decreased to 105 volts - with my four other inverters the rated voltage of 115 & 120 out put remaned constant regardless of the battery voltage input -
My guess is that inverter is better suited for lithium batterys -
I dont know about SW or ham bands - but with standard AM broadcast it does create interferance when the radio is near to the inverter - i think it states that it is a class B inverter -
Ill try operating a AM radio on a distant receptacle when i have time to see if the inverter creates RFI -
Also the temperature rating is not for the Ambien out side tempeture but the switchers them selves -
When the anbient temp was 75° it showed the circut tenp to be 100° -
When the ambient temp is 100 degrees that inverter might cut out on high temperature -
The Xanax cuts out at 105° the Trace keeps working at 110° -
Impressive. The inverter, not Mike's piggies! 😊
Some people pay a lot of money for that
@hamradiotube oh boy...not going to touch that one.
I had looked through several comments and videos looking for no RFI inverters at a reasonable price -
I listen to SW radio at times - I live in the deep South in a rural area - power outages can be frequent and after hurricanes or ice storms the power can be out for months -
There was no pole power out here till the mid to late 50s most had 32v farm light plants - they were sized to charge there house battery's all day once a week - they had all the appliances that city people had but in the 32v DC version -
depending on battery's acid strength battery's generally lasted 40 yrs charging once a week with 1.220 acid strength at full charge - the larger bank of house battery's often we're of a 1.200 acid strength and would last 60 to 70 yrs - charging once a week all day - a stationary hybrid system is 6 to 10 times more fuel efficient than running a gen 24/7 for moderate to light loads -
Were I'm at it's normally 60% humidity so solar panels only generate 20% of there rated out put on a rare clear cloudless days at noon time - solar is of no value down here -
When I was a kid some still had wood smoke engine generators for charging house battery's after storms when there pole power was knocked out -
I still use a hybrid system when the power is out for long periods after hurricanes - I grew up with out AC as long as you have a good while house fan and good ceiling fans - if your in decent health with good fans the heat is not bad at all even when sleeping -
The only other question about that inverter I have is: does the cooling just go on and off at full speed or does it have a low or variable speed that changes with the load -
I went from using the motor generator inverters to solid state switcher inverters 40 yrs ago - I used the FCC class A Part 15 inverters ( no RFI). -
The older inverters didn't use a fan for cooling - I haven't had a problem with the newer fan cooled inverters.except for the noise off the cooling fan lol -
I'm a 3rd or 4th generator man worked the offshore oilfields and remote mountain oil field for yrs - so I know power production -
I had looked at the operating temperature of that inverter - it's states that it will operate up to 145° F -
If what they stated is a fact and it will operate even at a reduced output - that is an exclent inverter - if you factor there is no RFI those two alone are positives -
RFI creates what is called NIE ( negative ion effect) -
that feeling of wanting to go to sleep after it rains is the result of a negative charge of the air -
RFI creates that same negative charge - also those who sit in front of screens tend to feel tired as a result of NIE -
If you want to look further into NIE - Dr John Nash Ott discovered the effects of RFI and NIE on humans and animals - he wrote some books and papers on the subject in the 80s -
In the end if you study up on RFI you will under stand why you do not want to be near RFI off inverters or switchers -
Can you install the LiTime 3000 watt inverter upside down? I know the display will be upside down but the battery terminal connection will be a lot closer. Installing right side up I will have to replace the battery cablers with longer ones : (
You can put it any way you want.
I recently ran a 100 ft extention cord off the LiTime inverter - i hooked a SW radio to the power off the inverter -
. With a short wave reciever it does create some interferance - but you can here the broadcast -
The Class A part 15 inverters i have do not interfere with SW broadcast -
Even a high end class A will knock AM broagcast out -
The military and industry will generaly never set up invertes on less than a 24 volt DC system -
I saw a comment about using heavyer guage power leads -
It will not help using larger lead on a 12 volt inverter - with 12 volts there is going to be a serious voltage drop even with larger leads -
I use 4/0 leads on mine and there is still a serious voltage drop - there 4 ft long - in my case i feel like if your continues load exceeds 600 watts its time to go to 24 volts or more -
Inverters work well on 24 volt systems vs 12 volt systems -
Also if your using motors that use a lot of current to start up - then your better off with a inverter that has a Ferroresonant transformer -
For my 1/2 hp water pump and my electric wood splitter - i use the older triplite 2 step modified sign wave inverters - mine are the PV2000FC - its 2000 watts continues, 3000 watts for 1 hour and 4000 watt boost for 4 seconds - there used.ones on Ebay for around $150 to $300 - make sure there tested -
Many are off FEMA trailers and when the batteries were connected reverse polarity it blew the inverter -
Some things like micro waves or cieling fans dont run well on those inverters - air conditioners and fridges have done have worked well enough for me on those inverters -
2000W load and output dropped to 101V. That's a fail in my book. If they can fix that problem it might be worth looking at.
I was wondering about that myself but I would suspect it’s from the voltage drop of the batteries. I could be wrong though. The wire I'm using is only 1/0AWG copper clad aluminum too. I'm learning that's not the best type of wire to use for heavy loads.
@@hamradiotube200A at least 3/0 copper stranded.
The voltage drop was what I was thinking about too. That is awfully low.
That said, I suppose most things that are sensitive to voltage drop also do not draw many amps.
And so, as long as you don't run such things while another high current load is also operating it probably shouldn't matter.
1/0 aluminum should be sufficient for 120-130 amps but even that had a rather high drop (106v while pulling about 115 amps)
I suppose it could also be only having 100AH of capacity. A 500AH battery would not suffer so significant a voltage drop to the battery and so maybe the inverter would have performed better.
In many cases most equipment will do fine at 100 volts -
I've seen shaded pole 1 HP newer S frame shaded pole single phase motors run on 100 or 200 volts yr after yr just fine -
The exception was with 120 volt air conditioner compressors - they need 105 to 135 volts - at 100 volts the motor will electrically slip to much and the compressor will cut out on high temperature if it real hot out side -
If I'm using an AC window unit and our power is out - the generator I use was made in the 1920s the generator head is a X frame and it puts out 100 volts 60 Hz - every thing runs fine at 100 volts - but when it was 110° this summer -
I did have some 5000 BTU AC window units cut out on high temp while operating on 100 volts -
Also older unregulated car battery chargers do not put out a good charge voltage -
In the end I just used some varistats on the AC units and brought them up to 120 volts -
I normally just go 100% hybrid during long power outages and run off inverters - but for short outages I'll run the generator -
Mine is an old oil engine since it runs real slow and burns heavy oil it has a 22:1 efficiency verses the newer inverter gens that are up to 7:1 efficient - with the old gens there is a wide voltage swing as loads come on it -
There can be a 20 volt drop and also drop to 40 HZ but the fridges and AC units keep running till the engine comes back up to speed -
That's why I say if the voltage drops to 100 volts on a surge or heavy load it's not an issue -
When I started in the oilfields in the early 70s they still had gens from the 20s in service - they also had serious voltage drops as loads came on line -
The old tube tv screens would shrink when loads came on line -
The old timers didn't care for the newer high speed diesel gens that maintained a stable voltage -
They make a lot of noise and had to be rebuilt every two yrs - the old 20s slow speed engines run real quiet are easy on fuel and only need re- ring every 20 yrs of 24/7 running -
Did you forget 160m for rfi test ? Most inverters destroy 160m and 6m
You didn't review the interior (inside) of the inverter.
I bought this inverter based on the review. Perhaps it's a difference in units received but mine generated a horrible S9+ RFI on all bands. I'll have to relegate it to some other solar purpose and put my 1200-watt inverter back in service.
Interesting. I would return it. Sounds like you got a bad one.
I had already owned this inverter before catching this video and can tell you that mine produces no noticable RFI. Full disclosure tho, my shack is on the 2nd floor of my house and my inverter is in the basement. My antennas, however, are much closer to the inverter as my coax terminates to my weatherproof box very close to where the invert is installed. I have operated on "almost" all bands 70CM-80M with this inverter producing about 1000Watts and zero RFI in my shack.
@@twanner Interesting. My shack is on the second story of my house and the inverter is in the same room as my radio. By placing the inverter in the closet area, the noise is reduced to about an S5. I suspect that if I moved it across the hall into my master bedroom the noise may be eliminated.
My interest in this inverter is because I listen to overseas market reports broad cast on SW -
These inverters to generate interference on my SW receivers - The AC signal might be clean but the inverter it's self does generate noise -
It does not wash out the SW signal - I also put the radio on a 100 ft extension cord and had the. Same results -
. I also bought a second 3 kw LI time - the first one sounds a audible low battery voltage alarm at 11 volts - the second one I bought sounds the alarm at 10.5 volts just before it cuts off -
Both start dropping the out put voltage at 11.5 V and 650 watts -
They don't regulate the voltage well, but I'm also using them on lead acid batterys -
The first one I bought the fan kicks in as soon as the load is a 700 watt load -
The second one I bought the fan kicks in at around 1200 watts -
I generally don't pull more than a continues 600 watts off 12 volt inverters also I have a large bank of battery's and charge at 11.5 volts -
During the summer when it's 100° or hotter is when the inverters can prove there worth if my power is knocked out a good while -
Cooling Fan failures and high temperature cut out are the most common problem with these newer state of the art inverters -
In my case I generally never exceed a continues load of 20% of its rated continues out put -
Being hybrid saves a lot of fuel after storms when it's hard to get -
These I'm sure will work for me ok -
Lord Tube, how far was the inverter from the radio for the rfi test?
You might put them on the same bench and power the radio and inverter from the same battery. Gonna be more better 👍 or ... 🤬🤬🤬
They were close enough that if there was any noise coming out you would have seen it. Maybe 7 feet.
Does it actually deliver the 3000W and what happens to the battery voltage?
At 3000;watts there will be a voltage drop with any 12 volt system -
12 volts does not travel far at all - my guess is at a 3000 watt load the voltage will drop below 12 volts at the inverter even with 4/0 leads close to the battery -
The other is an inverter can be rated at 3000 watts - but that's at 78° at 60% humidity -
If it's 105° at 30% humidity the out put rating drops possibly up to 50% in some cases -
As a general rule the continues out put of an inverter should not exceed 25 % of its rated out put -
I had worked the offshore oilfields as a high end solidstate drive electrician - we often kept inverters in let air temp at 50° so they could deliver full power for lengths of time with out over heating -
If your going to be pulling more than 6 to 700 watts continuesly it's better to go with a 24 volt or 48 volts inverter -
Low input voltage inverters do not fare out well once the continues draw exceeds 25% of there rated out put -
Domestic Inverter out puts are rated by ambient temperature of 78° 60% humidity -
@@able880 Thank you for your comment, those are some interesting numbers 🤔
@@pcfreak1992few know much about inverters - were I'm at the grid has gone down for eight months at times during the 40 yrs I've lived here -
My grandfather was an early 1900s electrician when many rural people had farm light plants - most were 32 volts with a large bank of 16 battery's that the house ran off of -
Down here in the deep South they had large banks of battery's - they would have two banks of 16 cells paralleled to make for 14 kw of usable power -
Because of the heat many used whole house fans and ceiling fans - also the fridge ran a good bit more during the summer - during summer they charged the house battery's all day Friday and some on Monday -
During the winter they charged every other week on Friday -
There were junior farm light plants also those were 6 volt or 12 volts -
When I was a kid in the 60s drug stores still carried 6 , 12, and 32 volt light bulbs for farms -
Also my uncle had a radio shop and was still fixing 6,12 and 32 volt farm radios -
Power from the grid was 30 cents a kw plus the service charge - were as farm gas or kerosene was 13 cents a gallon -
Farmers understood that they could generate 4 KWs or more with one gallon of gas -
So to generate there own power with gas there cost was 3 cents a kw -
So some farmers did not have pole power till prices dropped in the 70s - also some made alcohol for there tractors and generators in the 80s there were some old timers still using there farm light plants out here in the early 80s - it was legal if they didn't use alcohol for fuel on the highways -
My family was involved in electrical work and early radios ect - I remember seeing mechanical inverter generators often when I was a kid and inverters that used vibrators for square wave AC - farmers often had a bunch of spare vibrators for there radios sitting next to there radio when I was a kid -
I'm a fan of the LiTime batteries, but I'm disappointed to see the voltage drop down like 20v on this guy. Wish they would make a more solid 24 and 48v option. Will stick to Victron for now $$$.
You can heat up a Hot Pocket sandwich in a microwave!!
And then use the Hot Pocket to heat up the rest of the house lol!
Nice video. Curious how it can pull over 100 Amps out of the battery with only 4 ga cables.
You use both of them.
Hi Mike,
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Not seeing the 10% promo, must have missed that. Crap...
Try the link to LiTime in the description and see which is cheaper. Someone ordered from there and it was only $233
@@hamradiotube Cheapest I could get it was $267 between both links...bummer!
ratings from reviews on amazon are not great
90 plus amps, crazy. Too much heat at 12v, Go to 48v my brother.
Yah mujhe chahie
the compressor doesn't run full time and if you discipline yourself and the family to open the door only rarely and not leave it open, that battery should last for days.
Would last longer if there was a way to disable the auto defrost cycle as well.
@@JRNipperthe problem with that is if your in a high humidity areas the ice build up will become a problem -
Over all the elements don't come in that long in the defrost cycle - so it's not that much power over all -
If your living off grid and power is an issue then it's better to use a conventional chest freezer with a inline thermostat to keep food cool - or a DC off grid fridge that's not frost free -
That thing has a really bad rating on Amazon. Would not touch.
This thing has been awesome for me. I've done multiple battery review videos with it as well as powered my house for 3 days during an outage. I can't speak highly enough of this inverter.
@@hamradiotube That is awesome.
Nice little report. Thx and 73 Vic de KE8JWE
Many thanks!