Broken Motorcycle Tyre Valve
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2018
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Happy independence day everyone...thanks Matt for all of the great info and videos...I have learned a lot from you...I am also an all around mechanic...
Ooh look, another use for copper grease!🤘🤘
I see Delboy is getting a garage makeover.
Damn that was a year ago, Doh! Never watch his channel so thought I'd have a look.
When you said you had a tool you can use , I thought Del was going to enter stage left
Hahaha
Many moons ago I was a tyre fitter & always put new valves on when fitting new tyres, having said that that was car tyres & mc tyres don’t do the same mileage but age must be accounted for.
Yikes I feel your pain, but at least you got a workout in lol
I like your rotors, Matt. Gonna need to get some MTB rotors cut by a mate with a waterjet cutter, might do some of that "outside cut away" stuff, that looks proper trick.
This is why you need a butler Matt.
Matt get a tub of tyre soap, I got one for a tenner, makes tyre changes soooo easy. No squeaky finger pinching, lol
Every flat tire I've had the pleasure of experiencing has been the Fing Valve Stem, just like your example. Now that I've said that, I expect to find a 10mm wrench thru my next flat tire. :)
Oh how I laughed out loud at czcams.com/video/99Rpf6t6Vo4/video.html
I was waiting for this to happen when I watched you replace the front tyre.
Always replace the valve with the tyre.
Nice little cush drive setup, dont know if you've made a video on cush drives/similar devices and why they are important
Matt’s mostly pissed that it’s a decent riding day and he’s stuck fishing out a broken stem 🤦🏻♂️
Rough as guts.....what a cowboy
I bet del boy pissing himself laughing 😂.
If only you rode on the darkside..
I haven't read the comments but I bet there are a number of ingenious references to copper grease and dark-siding, maybe even super slippy or Evans.
Andy's Motorcycle Obsessions
At least it's people having a laugh, and not like Del's comments section, where the only comments to exist are the ones kissing his ass lol :-)
neil h Whaaaaat? No way Jose! That’s outrageous
I figured you’d have replaced the valve stem when you had the tires installed. I know I should replace mine as well when I get new tires, I haven’t replaced them at all in the 5 years I’ve had my motorcycle.
LOL.....what the hell were you thinking when you bought that kit.....magic? Jesus, that was funny!
If I say don't bother people then jabber on about 'you can make it work, with some modifications etc. Job done....
Mike Grady
Don't slag that tool off, Del says it works miracles, like the brake caliper spreaders he showed off.
neil h, lol.....no doubt!
The moment I saw that kit for replacing the valve from the outside I thought that's never gonna work. Valves are designed to be pulled through from the inside. The bit that stays on the inside is much bigger so you can't accidentally pull the valve right through. Trying to squeeze that though the hole would be bloody difficult.
Correct. plus it could be possible to damage the rubber on the mushroom end by repeatedly trying to twist and force the valve through the wheel. Fucking stupid idea if you ask me (that's not directed at matt for giving it a go lol)
Del has given this vid three thumbs down because Matt forgot to use copper grease on the valve and the tyre. ;)))
From what I understand dealershits in the states have to change those valves with every tire change
Its true, when i was a tech they state you have to because in the summers or throughout the seasons it'll get hard eventually and start to leak from the rubber valve stems. Best practice is to replace every tire change.
I don't know about bikes but here in the UK, car tyre shops always replace the valve if the tyre is removed or replaced. I don't know if it is a regulation but it is another item they can stick on the bill.
All this stuff about dealerships being required to replace valve stems, as far as I see people don't replace their tires until 6 years has passed and the dealer won't let them leave without them changed, or 100k miles. My motorcycle tires are above average at 15k miles. If I took a guess my local Cycle Gear store doesn't change the valves and they change tires often. Maybe I'll ask them if I remember next time i'm there next week
I would think that was standard practice in every good tire place.
If u had 1 of them valve stem fishers with the cable on it for tube tires you could have just deflated and broke one bead and fished the cable through. Screw it on the end and then pull it through. Without even removing rim from bike if you wanted.
Havent bought one yet but after my last tire change on my dirtbike ill probly get one.
Not sure if they are made strong enough to pull stems through rims but could spin actual puller on after if not.
Its true, in the US it is normal to replace those with every tire change. My wife had a leaker and she rode it fast down to a family member to change it. Her theory was as long as it spun fast enough it wouldn't leak......the best part is that it didn't!
Depends on who ordered parts last or the dickhead doing the job.
Chasing Capsaicin
I suppose it could depend on that. I have personally not worked for or done business with anyplace who didn't insist on the replacement though. They make 2 bucks per stem so why wouldn't they?
Don't get Greg to do any wheel work. Whatever you say, if he's supposed to be a pro he should have noticed and at least advised you. Matt, I guess you put the tape on once you spotted the problem?
What a ball ache.....so I think what we have all learnt from the tire vids is just drop the wheel(s) into a decent well priced tire man and save yourself a load of hassle, stress and the risk of scratching/marking the wheel(s) in the process 😉
Jobs a goodun. Just glad it hadn't happened to me as i dont have the tools to tyre change. Need to invest in some....just in case
pause the fitment video at czcams.com/video/KOJp6CtwrGQ/video.htmlm40s
inside of the valve can become damaged from the tyre bead interfering with it, always have it so that where the valve is would be the last bit to pop over
del gets his interfered with by a shop monkey here czcams.com/video/uq3P078SHxU/video.html
you can see it beside the foot of the machine. wrong. his wheels looked to have a recess in them so it could've been quite flush - you see it briefly when he gets them out of the car - but it's bad practice. it should be slightly further around (clockwise) than the fitter's left hand.
I like the vids Matt but surely you should have changed the valve stem when you changed the tyre. As its good practice to do so regardless of condition
Aww I wanted to see the valve go through the other way, I've never seen a valve stem installed from the outside of the wheel, didn't know that was possible
It takes a lot of failure/practice, best not to do that to your self. Always plan for the worst and pray for the best.
Doesn't sound like a good thing being able to press it in from the outside. I'm imagining hitting a pothole or something and the thing coming flying out of the wheel lol
IMO they should be a tighter fit. Tight enough that there's no possibility of being able to press them in from the outside, so you have peace of mind at least that the thing ain't gonna come flying out when you're doing 90mph
How would it come out when doing 90? Air pressure pushes it into the rim on one side and the centrifugal force of the spinning wheel pushes it from the other side. Give it some thought.
I understand that it's extremely unlikely for one to blow out, and why. I'd just have better confidence in a valve that you can't push into the wheel from the inside, and I'd say it's good practice to design it that way regardless of the fact that it's extremely unlikely for one to blow out of the wheel.
More to the point, someone could damage the rubber by forcing the fat side backwards like that through the alloy especially if they were struggling with it. They go in nice and easy if you push them through the rim from the outside.
you said you'd be worried about the valve flying out when you hit a pothole or flying out when doing 90mph. You've changed your mind and you're now saying something else. How would it come flying out at 90?
Ain't that a biatch, an hour and a half for a 15 min job. lol
90 Degree Valves Man for the love of Jesus
Always carry a couple of SPOONS.....
On car tyre changes the always fit new valves, not on bikes though!
Yep, hindsight is a wonderful thing. For the tiny cost vs consequences, a new valve every time!
Was it your mate Del that recommended the tool haha
Lurkos J
Yeah, looks like a professional grade sealey special. Contradiction of terms there
First again ? I'm on a roll, a Bacon roll 😂
mmmmbacon
Ok, so I'm 2.09 in to the video, haven't read any comments yet, will do that at the end, but, no Matt it's no a height adjuster, it's an anti theft device, you try pushing a bike with a flat rear tyre, infuckingpossible.......
I knew that terd wasn't gonna float, lol. Anyway, what I really wanted to see u edited out. How the hell did you get that tire off its bead?
If you watch his other tyre changing video he's got a bead breaker - it makes breaking the bead a piece of piss.
A mate recommended it - I thought is was bollocks - and here we are. Sometimes I just wanna look at the idea as a concept. Like the ez bleeds - don't like em - so I don't fit em.
What kinda fucking rear tyre do you call that? Darksiding is the way mate
The way to piss poor handling and an early grave. Save a few quid on tyres though
Why didn't you fit a 90 degree angle valve stem?
Because most of these stems I wouldn't trust with my life.
Always always ALWAYS replace your valve stems when changing tyre!
Always always ALWAYS change the valve stems once per year if you dont ride enough to replace your tyre!
Remember, the valve stem is made out of rubber and it perishes just as fast or faster than your tyre, because it does not have any reinforcement inside it like a tyre has...
And IF a valve stem breaks during riding ALL air will rush out in seconds. Imagine THAT happening to your front tyre...
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they really don't need changing that often
Most of the rubber hoses for your coolant, o rings, the tyres themselves etc etc are rubber. Once a year is proper excessive. What I will say is that you should buy OEM ones and not any other shite.
john - how often would you change an inner tube?
chris davidson once every year or when i change tyres.
I have colleagues that change inner tubes every second year. They dont ride that much and dont wear out their tyres as fast as i do...
Isn't it easier to pop the bead inwards on one side while the tire is on the bike. Hold it inward with the beard breaker or a clamp or a foot and use a pair of long bent needle nose to pull out and install new valve? Is How we do in the shop...
Unless you need to recover the broken portion of the steam....
The Workshop. I would break old valve stem with the needke nose and the other half always stayed in place to be easily grabbed with the pliers. I noticed u knocked it lose. Love the vids matt. Keep it up!
Metal valve stem or rubber? At least metal ones don't just shear off with age
rubber
I guess that rubber ones will become obsolete in time due to TPMS, my bike's got that so came with metal stems.
not all of them are metal, some are a normal-but-different rubber stem, and the sensor pushes into it. the metal ones still have rubber o-rings, which can leak and need replacing, at which point it's possible that the nut bit has corroded itself permanently on and is a nightmare to get off without damaging the sensor or scratching the wheel. the metal ones are also really easy to damage around the dustcap threads, possibly resulting in the end getting snapped off - if an inflator's being an arse about going on properly, don't fight with it!
If you had a car tyre it would be easier to use the new valve gobbin.. There always a bright side to the dark side...
is this a serious comment?
is this a serious reply?
Yeah i know they have a copper core. HOW else would you be able to fasten the valve inside the stem?
But they DONT have any reinforcing web inside like the tyre, and the rubber end that sticks through the rim are just that.
A big blob of rubber alone.
I am a motorcycle instructor and do a LOT of miles every year.
I have had valves fail on my bikes.
My fiancee almost got killed when she rode on the dual carriage way and the valve stem broke on her bike.(we had just bought it and they had fitted new tyres on it but NOT new valves. As we discovered the hard way...)
Hence the reason I ALWAYS change them once per year.
I have plenty of colleagues around the country that do the same
Its easy to check them, just bend them to the side and look at the area where it goes through the rim.
The rubber starts cracking already after a year.
They cost £0,20 each, a garage will charge you £20 to change it.
Why skimp on your safety?
LOL it wasn't skimping - I just didn't check. I think every year is a bit excessive. And at 20p they are not OEM valve stems
The workshop
I wouldnt replace hoses every year. If a coolant hose spring a leak its hardly going to affect the safety when riding.
I do check them often and replace when they start feeling dry or cracked. Same with the Vacuum hoses for the injection system.
Use ( SOAP )
I know you werent skimping Matt. Youre just as OCD as me when it comes to bike safety and treating the bike right.
Its one of those things one esily forget when changing a tyre if you dont do it often enough
Or you leave it to someone else
There she blows...
Turn the playback speed to 1.5 then skip to 6:10
LOL because you're time is so precious
moar time left for pRon ya mumbling Yorkie ; D
Why do you keep beating yourself up when you 14 yo sister can do this type of work?
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1st :P