How NOT to Go Bikepacking Pt 1 - (Bikepacking Bags and Setup)
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Oops. I've signed up for the 2019 edition of the Ochoco Overlander forgetting all the pain from last year. This year however, I am in a rush to pack new bags and get in last minute training.
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“Woefully Unprepared” would make a great t-shirt
Hmm... how about “Woefully Unprepared; Motivated to Succeed”
The bright side of using untested gears is that you get to learn a lot of stuff. Stuff like things to avoid and what works for you. So if it's not life threatening (just the possibility of additional discomfort), I'd say go ahead and use that untested bike... especially if this event is partially supported.
Quilts are the way to go! Coming from hammock camping background, I have used quilts for going on 9 years and would never go back. Good Luck Russ, cheers
20 years ago I used a Macpac (NZ brand) sleeping bag that had no down on the bottom but a mattress pocket. It was a brilliant bag similar to a quilt, particularly if you had it un-zipped.
Awesome, I can't wait to see your coverage of the ride! My wife and I recently went on our first bikepacking trip for 2 days on the Katy Trail, and it was very much inspired by what you guys do on this channel!
Good choice on the quilt, you won't regret it. I have used my quilt going on 6 years now. I have hammock camped comfortably at 8 degrees and 20 degrees in a tent.
You'll love the quilt. The 20degree one is the most used quilt/sleeping bag in long distance hiking. Seen hundreds or more of them on the Appalachian trail.
Quilts are awesome. I've been using one for distance hiking and bike touring for about the last dozen years. And you could save quite a bit of weight and volume by going with a 30-degree quilt. On average a tent or bivy sack will be fifteen degrees warmer than sleeping rough.
Hi Russ,
I think you will love the quilt, my wife and I got a Nemo double sleep system e years ago before doing a 5 month tour of New Zealand. We absolutely love it and use it all the time. I am also a warm sleeper and it is perfect.
Been using quilts for a couple of years. I have a UGQ 30 degree and it's perfect for spring through fall in MN paired with an REI flash mat. Super light and packs down tiny. My partner and I use a double quilt when we camp together too. Quilts rule!
Sometimes it's a good thing to treat an event as a training/learning experience. EE stuff is quality gear. I used one of their 25F models for Tour Divide. Happy to see that they changed around the baffling on the newer ones so there's less shifting of the down off to the sides.
I hammock camp so quilts are the way to go. Can't ride standard style bikes anymore so have moved to recumbent trike still doing adventure riding though. Running larger size tires for dirt and gravel. I really like your channel.
Used a Sierra Designs Quilt on an extended bikepacking trip in Montana and loved it!
Have been using an EE quilt for seven years now, alone for summer camping and together with my other sleeping bag for winter camping.
Go Get-em Russ. I'm cheering you on.
Russ great idea and either way it goes from a viewer stand point it will be video gold enjoy
The tarptent and EE quilt are very good choices. Probably 75% of all thruhikers carry EE quilts for their exceptional lightness. I have 200 days on mine. Cheers!
Quilt are great because you can use them open when it's hot (so easy to get a foot out) and closed them more when its cold. I find EE ratings to be on the optimistic side but I sleep cold.
I hope that awesome interesting beer is ready!
Voluminous is a great word.
Being woefully underprepared is the recipe for success. Helps you get out of your own head and roll with the event, because you have no idea how it's going to play out.
Awesome I like the quilt idea, I'll need to try it one day on a camping ride... Also I cant wait to watch the video on your trip. Good luck pal.
Good luck, sounds awesome!
The wife and I use EE accomplice quit. Love it.
Hint: Enlightened Equipment will provide a discount for military, outdoor professionals, law enforcement and those types of profession.
Been using Rayway quilts for a number of years and dig the synthetic quilt
Can you give a more detailed description of the rear rack? Interested in learning how it connects to the seat, weight restrictions, etc.? Thanks!!!
After the last time you did this ride...dont forget the rain gear!
This makes me smile
You going to have so much type 2 fun.
Come ride RAGBRAI in Iowa.
I highly recommend narrow Vee mtn. bike tires. Nearly indestructible.
Ok, good luck on the ride.
GOOD LUCK🦇
I've used the Enlightened quilts for over 2 years. Watch the videos on how to strap it to your sleeping pad. I will never go back to a full bag.
I am not doing the “race”. I am signing up with adventure cycle to do it over 2 months. Next summer. The trip is van supported so I don’t need to carry everything. I need a comfortable bike that will climb well and should be a light bike probably carbon.
Cutthroat would do well. Or a carbon XC mtb.
Quilts are the way to go!
Sweet this should be a great adventure 🎥👍👍👍👍🎥🙏🚴♀️
Word on the street is Enlightened Equipment quilts temp ratings are off by a good bit. Anecdotal stories I've heard say if you want to be comfy in 20 degree weather to buy a 0 degree quilt. I hope the quilt keeps you warm, but I'd also like to hear your thoughts on the accuracy of the temp rating on it.
Yeah. That is one reason I went with the 10 ultimately.
I'm just preparing to enter the bikepacking realm later this year and the Ochoco Overlander format sounds like a blast, but it's the 14,000 feet of climbing that I would need to plan for. I mountain bike every week and have 50,000' of climbing so far this year, but when I jump on my road bike the muscle and fitness demands are NOTICEABLY different :-( Time for some cross-training!
I love to see how people pack their bikes. This was a fun video! Hope your event is not a Suffer Fest like last time.
Russ, we use a carradice saddle bag on the brommie and my husbands van nik. It's only small but do's the job. You are talking as if Laura is not going?....and whats the new bike?
Yeah. Laura can’t go because of work. But we have another trip planned. She’s digging the bike.
Good luck
I swear by quilts... (and hammocks) if it’s cold enough for a full mummy bag (5C/40F) I’m probably not gonna be that happy on the bike either.
Good Luck on your ride. What about tools and tubes? Any suggestions on arm or leg sleeve brands?
The plan-b bike isn’t so bad! 😁
I actually just bought a quilt from REI too hahaha. Just need a usable saddle bag and off I go! Would you consider sharing your thoughts on comparing the "traditional" seat bags with one of those British-inspired saddle bags?
Good vid TY
Fantastic! Which Carradice saddlebag is that beauty? Thank you.
Following! :)
Hello,
Thanks for providing these videos. You seem to address all the questions one has about enjoying bike riding in various conditions making your content accessible to all viewers. My question has nothing to do with your bike packing setup spoken about in the above video but has to do with a navigation. Do you or have you use GPS navigation on your trips? What brand have you used and would recommend? I have been looking at the Garmin Edge Explore and was wonder if you have thoughts on this device? If you have a video about navigation or using GPS devices while touring please share the link. Hope you have pleasant weather for you upcoming trip. Take Care, Scott
What bar tape are you using? Looks thick and comfy. Did you double wrap the drops? What bars are you using on that bike? They look good.
Aren't you worried about your sleeping setup getting wet? Are any of those bags waterproof?
No. Short of falling in a river the bags are highly water resistant enough. They’re not made out of cotton candy :)
Have you seen the rack and panniers from Tailfin? Check them out online. I’d like to hear you opinion.
Question: Where do you put headlights on a setup like that? I have a handle bar bag that I like but bought it before I figured out I have no place to put my headlight.
Down on the fork with a light mount.
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Hey Russ, are you wearing a Casio watch? A Gshock one? :D
What is the bike your riding for this event ??
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Wow ! I like this bikes look alot. I currently ride a Trek Stache 9 29+ bike and this bike your taking on your trip reminds me of my bike. Good luck 👍🏾
The only thing that comes to my mind is : why those bags?
why any bag?
nice setup...do you make a report from the ride also?
Of course :)
What frame pack is that?
what's the weight of the bike in-transit to you?
Are we taking Celsius or Fahrenheit here? It’s impossible to know on US channels nowadays.
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Are you riding a salsa cutthroat?.. if so , do you recommend this bike for the entire GMDR?.. if not please give me 2 bikes you might recommend for this epic ride. Thanks
You mean the Great Divide Route? It was designed specifically to race that route so it should do well on it.
Get some custom tent poles in sections that will fit inside your saddlebag where they can double as some bag structure. I put them diagonally across the bottom of my bag.
www.questoutfitters.com/tent_poles.htm
It's a shame you can't use the Carradice saddlebag without a rack as I find that to be a slightly nicer to ride with the bag strapped to the seat post. Also use compression sacks more and really tighten them down. Doing that I can fit my Contrail, down sleeping bag and NeoAir into a Carradice Camper along with clothes and cooking equipment.
How many liters is the front bag?
11ish would be my guess.
what size is the front bagxbird?
Goldback Custom. Designed to fit within 46cm Cowchippers.
Where will your electronics and camera go?
What if you have to carry camera gear and food for 3 days...
Camera and batts will go in a top tube bag. Food would go into a full frame bag.
@@PathLessPedaledTV well think I need to get a bikepacking specific camera now haha
Using mostly action cameras for these trips. So much smaller.
@@PathLessPedaledTV makes sense! Thanks for the great tip
I can't see that you have the right equipment to cope with rain and cold for an extended period of time. The system have to work even if everything gets wet... I am especially critical to your clothing system.... in my view that does not work... of course you would be miserable then. I have been biking for several weeks at end in the rain and not been cold or felt wet. That is the kind of system you should have. I have been fed up, but not cold and miserable.
I think you missed the part where I said it was only 70%. If you watch our video from last year you will see we were adequately prepared to "cope with the rain for an extended period of time" since we got freezing rain for four frigging days straight.
@@PathLessPedaledTV It was based on that I have seen through all your videos, although I of course don't know what you are going to bring on this exact trip. Here in Norway I was biking in rain and "cold" (between -5 and 10 C) for almost three weeks straight (the coast in Northern Norway), and I was "comfortable" all the time, although it did not end up as the vacation I sat out for (I had hoped for some sun).
Quilt is unzipped sleeping bag?
Quilt is a quilt.
Ah, a seasoned tautologist! Remember, the first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club.
Yes, pretty much an unzipped sleeping bag, but you save some weight by not having a zipper.
Now you know EXACTLY how Tour de France riders felt in 1904. 😆
chose cargo bike