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Mourinho winning 3 trophies and achieving second place with the team he had was a miracle. Got Fred and Dalot after that when he needed way more.
ironic how we are still stuck with good old Fred right now
Trueeeeee...
But he lost the dressing room
If conte be our manager soon in 3 years later win many trophys and we sack him again like mourinho.
@@jack2525mic don't care, it's time move on
"I look at the current players and they should be doing a lot better. Not liking a manager can never be an excuse for not going out and doing your best." (Roy Keane)
Who did signed and coach these player? Roy Keane. For god sake. Roy Keane bearly survival 1 weeks at coach career
@@linhviet4656 that is not a valid argument for the point he made
@@linhviet4656 how did your coaching career go?
@@linhviet4656 You must be good at coaching since you claimed Roy Keane will not survive a week at coaching.Why don't you apply for the job as coach in MU since you are so good.
He should be manager coz all these players need is a will to win!
Van Gaal and Mourinho were not nearly as helpless as they were made out to be. ManU seems like a 'club' for ex players and if you're not in favour you'll get dropped. Van Gaal won the FA Cup. Would be a miracle if Ole wins a thing.
It will be good to see your thoughts on whether Ole has improved United tactically and what he is doing different from prior manager
How can you even say ole has improved united tactically? He only plays counter attack football?
I would love to see a breakdown as well. Any team can capitalise on the counter, but looking at the previous two fixtures with newcastle and wolves, it took sort of a gamble to finally penetrate the opposing defence, especially against teams that sit deep
@@yuhhhhhhhhhh3623 now, you can pass to ronaldo..
As a united fan, I gotta say sorry as Ole didnt improve anything tactically at all. Even with Ronaldo now, there was no identity for United. Also, hes always played 2 defensive midfielders in midfield which showed his weakness already. Watch this and you'd understand
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@@STrance0205 every manager is different went it comes to tactics. If you canât see how ole has improved United, I suggest maybe looking at a different area because he has changed United a lot. Showing Cruyff philosophies is irrelevant because thatâs how Cruyff sees the game, and not everyone is successful in playing with his philosophies. Also, whatâs wrong with playing two defensive midfielders? If itâs tactically needed, why shouldnât he use it?
I think popularity of social media destroyed United. Van Gaal was the best manager for United but players were focusing only in partying and taking pictures. Also under Van Gaal 'Mike' Smalling played outstandingly.
I wish we had one of the german high pressing managers like liverpool chelsea and bayern. These guys are masters of the craft and their system if so effective that it makes average players look great. They also don't need a team of superstars to win. They can work around players that are good and their style of play brings the best out of every player. Tuchel transformed the same team lampard was struggling with. Klopp despite not having huge budget always manages to do well with his team.
@Darth Vader not even ronaldo, Manu's whole team barely press and track back. The difference between salah/mane and rashford/greenwood is that salah/mane actively tracks back and helps out in defence being a secondary wingback or even the wingbacks themselves when trent/robbo stray too far forward. You just wont get this kind of intensity and commitment in defence from Manu's wide midfielders. To add on, greenwood is awful in pressing
@Darth Vader seriously what has changed after the arrival of ronaldo.
Sadly u didnt got what the original post is trying to convey.
Hopefully ralf can bring united back to the glory days
Our transfers killed Moyes and LVG, happy with the signings Ole and Mourinho, Jose lost his dressing Room but he should've gotten the defenders he wanted for that final season. LVG really changed our youth system, our scouting was improved, he inherited a team without Evra, Rio,Vidic, an aging squad etc. Hope Ole does well with probably the best squad since Ferguson.
Edit: Now we got Ragnick for the rest of the season, hope he helps Fletcher and Murtough in restructuring utd and understanding a manager's philosophy and players he may want when hiring them, rather than simply going for names.
He did a lot of positive and brave things but his tactics were boring af
I'm sorry but why youre happy with Jose signings? Here are the players he bought into the club
Zlatan, ÂŁ0, success
Baily, ÂŁ30, failure
Pogba, ÂŁ89, medium success
Mhkitaryan, ÂŁ30, failure
Lindelof, ÂŁ35, failure
Matic, ÂŁ40, failure
Lukaku, ÂŁ75, failure
Dalot, ÂŁ20, undecided
Fred, ÂŁ47, undecided
Look at that list and tell me youre happy again. Not only Mourinho ruined our reputation as a club where young players could play and shine he also got totally wrong players (like Matic instead of Fabinho, or Lindelof instead of Maguire)
@@harukrentz435 Zlatan at the time was one of the hottest strikers around and he was very successful for us, Lukaku aswell in his first season and he's showing that now, Pogba was not wanted by Jose he was a board signing apparently, Jose wanted a Dm over Paul and he got him eventually in Matic, Mhkitaryan had the most assists in the Bundesliga before he came to Utd and came as a Rooney replacement, Lindelof was a messed up purchase to be honest but Bailly was amazing before the injuries.
We messed up when we got Jose but that's on the Board and Woodward, we suck at transfers that's something Jose and LVG complained about, Jose got those players because of his familiarity with the agents not cause of our transfer expects who failed to bring in Kroos, Thiago, Baines during Moyes, Saul, Vertonghen,Fabregas,Pedro, Ramos, Hummels, Kante,Higuain, Lewandoski, Alves,Ramos etc under LVG or Maguire, Sandro, Ramos, Brozovic, Perisic etc with Jose.
We rarely purchase players from top clubs successfully especially if we are competing with other teams unless we overpay(Alexis), we also tend to purchase players we need too late and by then another problem will have surfaced e.g Bruno half way through the season when we were poor, Martial aswell even under Ferguson We failed to land Sjneider he ended going to Galatasarayđ, We don't have enough football people up top hence managers and players will struggle without a proper structure to help with manager selection, Players recruiting policy, desired style of play etc.
@@jackiemoon04 Sad but True
@@harukrentz435 fred has been a failure
Although his football got a bit boring I think that LVG had the clearest philosophy and style of play, given time and backing I think he would have been more successful
with SAF, on top of brilliant tactics, everyone was willing to do anything for that man. That beats any tactic you can imagine
sir Alex lose the epl twice in a row against mourinho, and mourinho popularize the pivot which sir Alex and others teams adapt. Tactical masterclass is really influential in modern football.
@@r3zaful you look at the players mouronho had at that time and youâll understand his success at chelsea has much to do with the relationship between him and the players. john terry said he would leave the pitch in a coffin for jose. drogba, essien, makele, ashley cole, carvalho were real and honest men
@@andyboboski look at fergie transfer and return here.
He basically try to emulate the pivot that mourinho implement with Hargreaves and Carrick, the season later he won ucl with double pivot.
Like really? Nowadays you can make average footballers to play great football with the right coaching, that's 100% facts.
@@r3zaful and yes. jose was still sack after that. And chelsea had to go through a period of managers like Andre villa, avram, di matteo etc.
@@andyboboski bingo. Man united players are a bunch of weaklings that have zero courage. Look at those managers previously. arent they top class? If only the board is always declaring that the manager is the one to call the shots at united, if not these players will never listen to ANY MANAGERS
âœâœâœOle has a great team to win games.However without a proper screening presence infront of that defence,i think United might find it hard to build their attacksâœâœ
the most common option so far are Ndidi and Casemiro, but with united spending this summer, I don't think they can sign any of those player this season (and Real will not let Casemiro go at this point). Unless United started selling some big names.
Can we train Wan Bissaka to Dm?
@@jerickalberca4503 That's just silly. AWB has no technical ability or passing range. He'd look like a fish out of water in that position
Tchouameni,rice,neves need atleast one of those
@@krish4246 They need a competent manager 1st
Mourinho should've been the one to replace Fergie. Hired too late and not backed properly to undo the shitshow he inherited.
Exactly
Whheeeellllll
Louis Van Gaal deserved more time.
I agree I enjoyed the football we were playing under him
Everyone had a long term project and for sacked.
FERGIE was given the opportunity if a long term project and after not winning shit for 6 years we was on the verge of getting sacked, but he got his trophy and the floodgates opened.
David Moyes had 6 months, LVG had 2 years and Mourinho had 2.5 years. All were promised long projects of min 4 seasons, with Moyes and Mourinho getting 6 year deals but getting axed quick.
Stick with the gaffer and back him, let them build and you will reap the rewards. You can't sign someone to a 6 year deal and have him on a short leash.
Dont ever compare SAF with anybody else. He won CL by managing Aberdeen.
@C41 It was European cup,which was Europa league back then. It was like CL for the smaller teams back then
What? The European Cup was not the Europa League, it was the Champions League.
Fergie took over a team that was floundering and was about to be relegated. He also wasn't that backed in the transfers immediately, but he still managed to improve each year. You cannot compare his scenario with the rest as Moyes took over a title winning squad, Van Gaal was fully backed in the transfer window and got all of his targets, and Mourinho was backed in his first 2 seasons in the transfers as well.
United is a totally different club than it was back then. They still value a long term project (looking at Ole), but they need to see progress because there are more money involved from sponsors and deals, not to mention reputations. At least with Ole, you can clearly see that there's progress, despite the lack of trophies. While the other three all took United backwards. Lvg's 2nd season was painful to watch, and Mourinho 2nd and 3rd was mediocre and inconsistent as well. Ole is not the man for the job, but his team is sure as hell much more of a unit and more consistent
Fans are the most toxic problems at united.
seriously with the united team at the time it is remarkable what jose mourinho done at old trafford
LVG would've been a better success if the board had a DoF that could bring the top young talents continuously. Too many senior players could not handle his tactics and his ways, that why as desperation Schweinsteiger was brought in, a person who understood LVG. It's well known LVG is too authoritative to get along with senior players, he gets on better with players that are mentally raw who then develop into LVG likes.
Jose had the opposite problem getting transfers who were too young or beyond their peak. everything he saw wrong with the squad has tried to be rectified with OGS.
As to Moyes, he was fucked over by Utd. Simple as.
All 3 managers ended up doing things which were totally out of their character. It's funny that.
if LVG was given the youth academy like ajax he would have been so successful as he woulda been able to bring up the midfielders he wanted from scratch and play the football he wanted
Jose mourinho deserved more respect and moreover , the midfield is still the missing piece in united's team , an elite defensive midfielder would certainly take them to another level!
dding sancho varane and ronaldo is enough for the team to challenge for anything. Matic showed yesterday how he can at least perform against the teams that sit back at old trafford, pogba was even better. Mctominy and fred can perform in the big games where you need players that win the ball more. The only real issue i can see in midfield is whether fred can be trusted to not lose games with his costly mistakes. The only hope for that is that he ups his game again following ronaldo's arrival.
I think we have had positive results under olĂ© like last season finishing second was not expected.but still concerned we donât have a suitable DM protecting the back four which also has its issues.
Great analysis as always
Can u do Blackburn 1995 tactics pls
Keep up the good work đ
At least the last three previous managers had a style of football, I'm struggling to understand what's the pattern of play under Ole.
Counter attack .. scored if had luck, or else conceede
pass to ronaldo
Pass to CR7 even if he has no scoring chance. Period.
Then last year, his style changed more, more slow tempo, boring, sideways possession, mostly due to Martial poor form, Cavani came in, more penalty box (poacher), relies more on crossing, Rashford and Greenwood (wide-forwards), Bruno (SS), Mctominay and Fred (ball-winning DM's), AWB (defensive full-back), Shaw more (attacking full-back), CB & GK the same as previous season, we had more possession than his last seasons, as teams stopped us from counter-attacking, as they knew we couldn't break down deep block, and generally weren't a good possession team, this year the same, as last year, in terms of player roles, and style, still pragmatic, slow tempo, possession football, Ronaldo has replaced Cavani, (like Cavani, penalty box, poacher), Shaw, more (defensive full-back) again, akin to Ole's 1st year, now we're just not getting the tight (3 2/2 1) results, we were (to some extent), flaking last year
Basically, in his 1st full year and interim, it was high pressing counter-attacking football, especially in his Interim, fluid front 3 Martial (wide-forward), Rashford (Advanced CF), playing on the shoulder of defenders, Lingard (free roam, Raumdeuter) playing of the RW, but drifting all over the pitch, finding tight spaces, when Ole played him in the no.10 4-4-2 (Diamond), he was a false 9, Pogba was a Mezzala, covered by 2 ball-winning energetic DM pivot, of Herrera and Matic, Young and Shaw, would push up as attacking (FB's), Lindelof (Ball-playing CB), and Smalling a (Stopper), and De Gea (traditional GK), the usual, almost chipped ball over the top, in behind for Rashford, to finish was a signature goal I Ole's interim, his 1st full year, 4-2-3-1, continuing the counter-attacking football, not as high pressing, as his Interim, more mid/low block, we were pretty much a pragmatic team, with the counter-attack, being our best weapon, he switched around Martial and Rashford, Martial (false 9), Rashford (wide-forward), Dan James started of the season that year, traditional winger, Lingard no.10 (SS), the start of that year it was Mctominay and Pogba, Pogba almost a (Regista), with Mctominay, an energetic ball-winning, goalscoring midfielder, obviously Pogba got injured, then he used Fred (ball-winning CM), the infamous McFred combined, Shaw & AWB (defensive full-backs), Maguire replacing Smalling, as a (Ball-playing CB), and Lindelof, also (Ball-playing CB), with De Gea, (traditional GK)
honestly what problem Moyes had with the Pivots, same was being faced by Ole.. until Bruno arrived who drops deeper to provide a more expansive passing option from DM position..
and its hard to find the quality DM nowadays, the current best ones are nearing their 30s (Kante, Casemiro, and Ndidi).
Bruno drops deeper? He plays false 9 why you lying? Most games heâs the highest player on the pitch playing on the shoulder of the last man! Go watch the previous season or go watch the heat maps of all the games! Bruno averages being higher than Cavani martial and Greenwood so stop bullshitting đ
@@billyshabir4354 Bruno does drop deeper in midfield when the ball doesn't progress. His position is still heavy in the opposition's box but that doesn't mean he doesn't go back and help the double pivot when they fail to progress the ball forward. Bruno is super active in both doing that and pressing high up.
@@HenSt-gz7qj are you good ? Ndidi isnt even 25 yet.
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Please do a bayern leipzig tactics also leeds vs liverpool tactics please emphasis on how they press
Winning trophy is the most important, the rest are secondary or tertiary. When main topic changes from what trophy can they win to what style of play is better, something is wrong with a supposedly big club.
Winning a trophy is one thing but to get there is a question.
A successful rebuild is better than wasteful spending every year and no trophy. You can spend on improving the bench but the main rebuild is having a starting 11 of young players, with a bench full experience players, mentoring them.
You just have to embrace the rebuild. Thatâs the problem. People are not willing to accept years worth of rebuild and no trophy.
Great summary thanks.
well done w the video and i think it was brillliant, i feel it all boils down to the board's impatience with the managers tbh because all these managers are absolutely top class and very reputable names in the footballing world
You seriously put david moyes and the word world class together
@@gedeabinaya9696 probably should have specified i meant just LVG and jose lol
LVG would do way better with our current squad. The issues he had around not having the runners in the final 3rd is not a problem anymore
Sir Alex took 6 seasons to win a Silverware. Ole just finished 2nd season empty handed. Ole tactics are similar to Sir Alex.
if you see highlight from early 2000s manchester united, you can see the tactical resemblance
playersâs morales improved af during ole reign and that alone feels like the good old days. Give him 4-5 yrs and uâll see a dominant red devils once again
Yeah but look at the team Ferguson inherited
@@dondamon4669 Very easy answer, Mourinho also failed with those players he had, before he was sacked. And btw Mourinho is not an average manager. He's a class 'A' manager.
Never compare of the greatest managers to a failed clown sir Alex never spent this much and never had a half decent squad even
thank for these helpful infomation
For all the greatness Ferguson instilled in Utd itâs high time he backed off. The team needs to evolve and let go of the past, ole, carrick, phelan and fletcher plus the university lad arenât the type of people to take United forward.
Need a new broom to move this club on.
Shout out the video maker, great analysis .
Nice video, very sad, too. As a United fan who saw Ferguson's teams play, it feels like this is not Man U anymore. As you pointed out, there's no coherence in the line of coaches they have gotten, that means we will be lost for a while. This is our version of Ted Lasso, bringing an American family to lead a football team (They may still call it soccer :() but without the inspiration or the biscuits.
And to this day the midfield area is still our weakness.
Ole tried classic 4-4-2 last night with Ronaldo â
@Cypher Yeah while they were in possession, both Sancho and Greenwood tucked in and created 4-2-4.
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Yesterday they started with 4-2-3-1initially...
@@TheProtagonist555 And then Fernandez went higher up as a second striker to create front two with Ronaldo and often exchanged position with Greenwood and Sancho.
@@najmussabir6051 yeah.. Agreed..
âœïž could you delve more deeper into LVG Manchester United, we had a striker problem in his tenure, but when Rooney did play up front, was he a advanced forward, false 9 or both?
Agree, I remember a lot of Di Maria as a striker and Rooney as a holding midfielder and being very confused at what he was trying to do
He was old. He should have been made a holding midfielder. He didn't have the strength or legs to attack anymore
LVG is the only one who deserved more time and transfers. If he had our current squad we would win the Prem and Ucl.
Ehm what? LVG literally got all the players he wanted and those transfers were done quite quickly as well. The man had more than enough time, but there weren't any progress in the 2nd season
@@vta2265 true. Not to count his treatment to legacy of fergie like rafael welbeck chicharito just because they are not possesion wise. He even turned an angel into snake
@@vta2265 All of the players he wanted? You mean Di Maria who never wanted to join United? Falcao who was a shell of himself after the injury? Depay who was too young and still adapting? That team compromised of players past their best and others at the beginning of their careers most of whom weren't good enough. Don't try to rewrite history
@@ashyrulharith9760 The players you listed, where are they today? If they were supposedly that good then they should be at top clubs? I don't know what you're talking about with Sir Alex because LVG would have nothing but respect for him
@@aaronlafond4771 What does those players either not wanting to join United, or too young, or a shell of their former selfs has to do with LVG? He wanted those signings. This is the man that pulled the plug on the Kroos deal btw. Don't get why you're defending his transfer record. Memphis and Martial were two of the best young talents in the world at the time, Blind and Schneiderlin were highly coverted, Rojo had a fantastic World Cup, Di Maria was convinced to join by CR7 and performed well until he fell out of favors with LVG mid season, no one knew that Falcao would turn out like that prior his joining, and Herrera was one of the best up and coming midfielders in Spain. In his two years there, he was the only one that got his transfers done early, meaning he got his targets from the get go. The only thing he didn't get was a proper striker. Face the facts, the man got everything that he wanted and on time, but he failed because his football didn't suit the team at all. Tried to turn United into technical passing team like Barcelona/Holland, and that backfired
âœâœCould you do an analysis of yesterday's Man Utd Newcastle game discussing Ronaldo's impact âœâœ the tactics from both managers, why and how United conceded that goal etc
Interesting and well done. Adding same for Ole to compare, and hopefully raise awareness to the MU fans supporting Ole.
Mourinho was so adaptable, he nearly destroyed the club's atmosphere by the time he left. I remember the times when I wished my friends would talk about anything other than man utd. Now, that's all I want to do...
Ole is slowly building a team that takes care of itself while on the pitch. He asks players to look to themselves for finding victories, which people misunderstand as individual brilliance. Its a type of football resembling SAF's philosophy. Ole takes a very off-hand approach in game management, all the while encouraging his players to find solutions themselves. This has its obvious downfalls, no doubt, but it worked for SAF. There's no way it won't for ole too..
@@abhishek9510 How well does this works for young boys?
talk about what of MU now? talk about how players are so happy in 3 years without a single trophy? Talk about how beautiful Pogba's hair is?
Lol
What a clown u r Abhishek just like ole .
Ole has made me fall in love with Man United again. I've never felt excited watching LVG or Jose's Man United. Moyes was even worse. I'm backing Ole, trophy or no trophy.
Your deluded! You say no one is bigger than Manchester United football club yet youâd happily accept ole staying winning nothing? Fans like you Are the reason United are finished! Good luck celebrating ole with no trophies đđđ€Ą
@@billyshabir4354 I say that because United's performance is at the top level. For two full seasons, we progress really far in the cups and finish high up in the league. Trophies will come. It's inevitable. I'm just stating that I'm perfectly happy being patient because of how fun the football is.
@@MonkeBrain07 Dont even bother explaining to that clown man!
Agreed, I always felt sleepy during the LvG and Jose's times in ManU. And as a fan we're supposed to support our team whatever happens, Ole, the other managers before him, and the players tried to give their best and its also for us fans.
@@MonkeBrain07 outplayed by wolves Southampton and young in first 5 matches and this clown is saying football is fun . How deluded have people become to support a substandard manager who has spent nearly half a billion quid and won nothing
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This video speaks directly to the problem Solskajer currently has at United and shows his failure to address that problem. As pointed out during LVG's tenure, United we able to be an effective pressing team. Due in part to the spatial distancing of the players that Van Gaal wanted during the buildup. Players by nature of their close proximity to each other to retain possession could, upon losing possession, immediately go into pressing mode. Solskjaer is from the old school United days. He believes and has turned United into a forward passing high risk high reward attacking team. That's all well and good but that means he uses the entire field to attack. Pobga finding a streaking Fernades, Lindelof finding a streaking Rashford and Fernandes finding a streaking...anybody. That does not bode well for a press. United don't keep the ball long enough to be called a high possession team. They'd rather score or create chances with 5 of fewer passes. That means they are never set up to press. Add that to the fact that Solskjaer, Mckenna and Carrick apparently aren't doing a good enough job of working on the press during training and the results speak for themselves. Solskjaer has a team with individual talent that could allow him to play a less attacking style and still win games. It seems he's so focus on the attacking end that that he's neglected the defensive side of the ball. Results, 1 clean sheet since May or April of last year. That's terrible. In order for him to get out of the mess he's create he will need to change players and modify their style. He's never going to be a high possession patterned play guy but he's got to find a way of marrying the "play it forward" philosophy with a more defensive edge. Clean sheets are a priority. If he doesn't figure it out, he should be removed.
I heard a lot of pundits saying that Ole does not have style of play or lack of Tactics. I think he want all of the players to be play dynamically and with more freedom. But it looks like united rely mostly on individual talents instead of team playing style. Can you make a video about that?
Ole covered what Jose didnât. Got the Press and his friends cheer for him. The 12th men are very vital at United.
Bringing Jose was a mistake, even Nuno is doing better with Tottenham than Jose.
@@MrSudipjang Some 3 stuff I saw. Jose is a serial winner. The jokers at United don't deserve. They speak so much about Pogba, the only time I see him is in Google Image search. Don't start that 7 assist stat. Those passes, everyone who knows football knows. They took a genius and replaced with a joker. I am happy with the appointment though.
@@Wiintb Was a serial winner, was!!!!!!!! Hope he gets his mojo back at Roma.
@@MrSudipjang i donât think you watch your club recent match against Palace.
He has spent nearly 500 million pounds to get back press and friends what sort of delusional nonsense is this
Pls do a video abt Flick's Germany
Hmm... I think the big difference between Ferguson's time & his successors - patience.
Let us not forget, Ferguson had 6 seasons (11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th & 2nd; 1 FA Cup; 1 Cup Winner's Cup; 1 League Cup) before he achieved the successful Man Utd team.
While those after him:
Moyes - 1 season (7th; 1 Community Shield)
Giggs - 1 month
Van Gaal - 2 seasons (4th, 5th; 1 FA Cup)
Mourinho - 2 seasons (2nd, 6th; 1 UEFA Europa League
; 1 League Cup; 1 Community Shield)
Ole - 2 seasons (3rd, 2nd)
Compare this to Liverpool's Klopp:
6th, 8th, 4th, 4th, 2nd, Champion; 1 UCL
Patience.
Nowadays, everyone is impatient. Everyone wants that short term success rather than long term success.
Like Barcelona right now, manager tactics have little influence when there's bad squad planning and a lack of leadership from management.
Mourinho is still the best after Ferguson. And if fans think the Ferguson era will still be back, theyâre deluded. Ferguson even had a hard time dominating the league when Mourinho was in PL at the time. The only good thing about Ole is heâs nice. Perhaps Man United can still win 1 PL title every 10 years.
@FMS do a tactical analysis on Saturday's Leipzig vs Bayern.
Good commentary but holy sh*t that's a lot of mislabeling in one video. Fellaini with Mata's picture, Rooney being represented with no 32, Rafael represented with number 12, the animator must be really tired đ
Van Persie is 32
Well done. âœïž
I am sure Man United will win silverware this season with Ole finally getting his preferred players but lacking a proper CDM
What kind of silverware? The League Cup?
Declan Rice would be a great signing as the addition to their squad, maybe Ndidi would be great as alternative for the team or Valverde would do good
Don't get your hopes up, Ole is clueless
@@aaronlafond4771 you wish. But actually he is not
@@jacdenn8789 well he clearly is! Your comment just exposes your lack of knowledge on football! Ole is clearly a fraud đŻ
I still rate Jose, but he always loses the dressing room and did not get the players he wanted. Jose managed to get Ibra, but no good crossers....
Any Man U fan will choose Ole over all the other 3.
Oleâs still improving the team. He can miscalculate some times but overall we are improving.
Man U fan here. Felt van gaal deserved more time
@@yuhhhhhhhhhh3623 agree, hopefully the board backs ole for longer than 4-5 seasons
500 million pounds spent and still improving the biggest clown of epl . Ole bottler soljskaer
@@bankinghub7683 I don't agree with you, but that shit is funny af hahahaha Ole bottler soljskaer
for the first time since sir Ferguson retired I'm excited about watching the games, and longest away unbeaten run in EPL history, people forget that sir Ferguson lost odd matches as well - probably football fans since 2015. Success don't come over night and that's that.
Man utd need an attacking manager with the players they got now. All the managers they got were pragmatic defensive coaches including solsjaer, slow static play. Even if they got a proper DM, doubt there will be much improvement.
He just build his team so sacking him now will be crazy.
1:42 it seems like juan Mata has changed his Name ^^
Can you do a tactical analysis video about what went wrong with psg's first match vs Brugge in the ucl
Some squad numbers is wrong such as van Persie and Schneiderlin.
So the central midfield has been a problem all the time?
The problem is that fans donât want to taste the process. :) Even though they can be patient like the fans in the time of Alex Ferguson who had to wait 3 seasons to get the trophy.
#mancityfans
Man United fans back then were patient because they had nothing much to lose. They weren't trophy machines, just finishing 4th, 5th occasional Cups here and there. After Ferguson left they were the biggest trophy machine in England so expectations became more.
Maybe because there weren't any progress in the process? Moyes took a title winning team and took the team backwards. LVG declined in his 2nd season despite being backed in the transfer, and Mourinho showed no progress, even though United got 2nd in his second season. Ole on the other hand, you can actually tell that the team is improving and is actually getting their identity back. Also, fergie took over a team that was about to get relegated. He was almost let go at one point. Very different scenarios
@@fishyfish6510 and also they were in a era where Liverpool is dominant
At the time fergie came, united were in the same level as spurs or nowadays' arsenal. Many years with only few major trophies. They only had 7 league trophies and 1 european cup, while livpool already had 18 league trophies + 4 european cups. And then fergie came and things changed
@@SOKTAUBOLATV it took 4 years to be back on top.
âœïž So rooney was a false 9 under Moyes, or was he an advanced forward with, Mata in behind, as a traditional no.10?
There is no point in analysing Moyes' tactics, formation and player instructions as they changed spectacularly game to game
Depends if he was paired with RVP or not. If he was with RVP, then he played more as a number 10, but if not, he played as a number 9 that drops deep
@@vta2265 thanks đ
Jose wasn't a failure or van Gaal. They both won trophies
ole is doing very well with his squad. quite a number of players except martial n several others have improved a lot under his leadership. its just unfortunate that he is now up against top of the top managers like tuchel n pep. now we finally have a solid squad to go win the league
They should have kept Van Gaal
Can you do a video on spurs? Feels like there offence is lacking and in the recent game there defence was terrible
Jose would be the guy if he had got the players what Ole's got !
you say Lingard wasnt at the required level?? he had mkhitarayan and what happened? he left because he said we need to be more attacking the tactics were limitful and mourinho wanted players to do things themselves than allow a structured attack Lingard g/a merchant helps in midfield to progress the ball to the person who will assist to get the goal
How he's managed at every club he's been at, defensive deep, compact (mid/low block), then hit a long-ball to a (target-man CF), flick to to (wide-forward), to cut in and shoot, have a (defensive winger), on the other side, have enough numbers back, if a team has sustained pressure on us, or they have a corner, intercept, and counter-attack, scenario based, not a systematic attacking movements, usually likes defensive full-backs, but has worked well, with attacking full-backs (Cole, Maicon, Marcelo, Ivanovic, Valencia), more defensive full-back (Zanetti, Vertonghen, Azpi, Arbeloa), in the midfield, 2 hard-working midfielders, with a more, attacking, maverick playmaker/SS, (Sneijder, Ozil, Lampard), Pogba was supposed to do that role, with the work-men, more defensive minded Chelsea 1st stint: (Makalele/Essien), Inter: (Cambiasso/Stankovic), Real: (Khedira/Lass Diarra/Alonso (Regista), Chelsea 2nd stint: (Matic/Ramaires/Fabregas (Regista), Man Utd: (Matic/Fred/Herrera), Spurs: (Hojibjerg/Sissoko), but they didn't have the attacking mid, that's how he's won throughout his career, he doesn't coach his players, never has, and Rui Faria, from his past assistants, styles are archaic, in the modern game, and he hasn't replaced Rui well
Dude I've searched the internet for this comparison and now it's here.
Mourinho's wins during that era was absolutely a miracle @Damien Naidoo. What's going on with United since he left? No silverware! Is he still the problem after he left?
And now people realize how good mourinho was to guide united to second place
Yeah but he was still the architect of his own downfall
@@aakarmamtora3470 yapp, he 'can' be good but he is too much of a jerk to build up something for a long time.
(i dont like his style of play though).
Of all the managers here Mou outspent all of them and also played the worst type of football we should praise him for having spent a lot and fill up the holes in the team properly I really wish I can see how good he really was
Mourinho lost the league on that derby against city in october-November. After that defeat morale fell and it they couldnât keep up with a brilliant city
@@tomaszhowlett9861 Ole? đ€
Pls do Bayern under Van Gaal ?
As a Man United fan, I truly think if we had backed Van Gaal fully we would be in a much better position right now.
exactly. Fan base is a major problem. A bad run of results and people are calling for the sack. Thats why pep and klopp refused to join Man united as a manager. For what they want to go through such pathetic abuse by the fans.
Then you are delusional and you clearly neverwatched us over him. Sure it looks fancy on a whiteboard. But in practice it was absolutely dreadful to watch
@@anneeq008 I watched us very clearly and can tell you that we do not play any better right now. The only difference is that we have better attacking talent.
Boring tactics can work if you have the right players. No tactics will never work.
Midfield's always been the issue, every manager has had to bypass this area in attack.
Utd should have secured Rice as a priority in the Summer, with him in the old squad they could challenge. Ronaldo's signing's upset the apple cart.
It would be interesting to see Moyes with this current squad...
I totally agree with this comment, the best that I've seen so far. In OGS's defense, everything broke down in his second summer transfer. His 1st summer transfer he got Maquire, which was José's proposal, AWB and James. The biggest problem came in the 2nd transfer window when OGS screamed for the club to sign Declan Rice, the DM everyone wanted. Instead, the club got a freebie, another attacking midfielder when we already had Lingard, Bruno, Mata, Pereira and now we have DVB, not needed at the time, we needed the DM. If only......
Please do a breakdown of united possibly using a 4,3,3 âœïž
Pliz do a video on Solkjaer tactics
Which midfield trio will bring balance for psg this season? if possible pls make a video .
Mourinho was good tactically, but I felt that he fell out with players, staff and fans which was his downfall.
I believe Ole would have equaled Mourinho's best season last year If it was not for the cancellation of the Manchester United- Liverpool game.
In the end I would rate Mourinho most on what he achieved and tactically , but Ole most on recruitment, enjoyment and best performances.
I also feel Ole is growing into the role, while Mourinho was getting worse with time(Still a top manager).
Moyes have come good since his days in Manchester, but I had hoped he would come good at United.
LVG. I could not stand it!
Bagi gw pribadi, lvg yg terbaik. Dia cmn krng ddot dukungn. Jika dia didukung secara penuh saat itu. Skrng mngkn emyu sdh lg berjaya
I think arsenal analysis should be next..
From the golden trophy to what i feel lost its identity..
Love to see Transition of Manchester City âïž
8 years and the middle field always a black hole of United. Unbelievable
based on your analysis does the tactic not good enough or player not good enough?
Ball progression in midfield is still a huge problem. Matic is way too old, Fred & McT both cannot pass
Neither can Fernandes actually.
Do LFC vs Milan such a quality game
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Compared to the previous 3 managers Ole's style of play is much better and he has signed the right set of players for United. However, his game management and tactical acumen are poor.
his style of play is poor because he lacks tactics even against tottenham their ball possession was abject.
I like how you stop at ole and dont show his tactics, i dont think anyone, including him, knows what his tactics are.
Basically, in his 1st full year and interim, it was high pressing counter-attacking football, especially in his Interim, fluid front 3 Martial (wide-forward), Rashford (Advanced CF), playing on the shoulder of defenders, Lingard (free roam, Raumdeuter) playing of the RW, but drifting all over the pitch, finding tight spaces, when Ole played him in the no.10 4-4-2 (Diamond), he was a false 9, Pogba was a Mezzala, covered by 2 ball-winning energetic DM pivot, of Herrera and Matic, Young and Shaw, would push up as attacking (FB's), Lindelof (Ball-playing CB), and Smalling a (Stopper), and De Gea (traditional GK), the usual, almost chipped ball over the top, in behind for Rashford, to finish was a signature goal I Ole's interim, his 1st full year, 4-2-3-1, continuing the counter-attacking football, not as high pressing, as his Interim, more mid/low block, we were pretty much a pragmatic team, with the counter-attack, being our best weapon, he switched around Martial and Rashford, Martial (false 9), Rashford (wide-forward), Dan James started of the season that year, traditional winger, Lingard no.10 (SS), the start of that year it was Mctominay and Pogba, Pogba almost a (Regista), with Mctominay, an energetic ball-winning, goalscoring midfielder, obviously Pogba got injured, then he used Fred (ball-winning CM), the infamous McFred combined, Shaw & AWB (defensive full-backs), Maguire replacing Smalling, as a (Ball-playing CB), and Lindelof, also (Ball-playing CB), with De Gea, (traditional GK)
Then last year, his style changed more, more slow tempo, boring, sideways possession, mostly due to Martial poor form, Cavani came in, more penalty box (poacher), relies more on crossing, Rashford and Greenwood (wide-forwards), Bruno (SS), Mctominay and Fred (ball-winning DM's), AWB (defensive full-back), Shaw more (attacking full-back), CB & GK the same as previous season, we had more possession than his last seasons, as teams stopped us from counter-attacking, as they knew we couldn't break down deep block, and generally weren't a good possession team, this year the same, as last year, in terms of player roles, and style, still pragmatic, slow tempo, possession football, Ronaldo has replaced Cavani, (like Cavani, penalty box, poacher), Shaw, more (defensive full-back) again, akin to Ole's 1st year, now we're just not getting the tight (3 2/2 1) results, we were (to some extent), flaking last year
Agree or disagree. But Ole is the only one who made improvements to this team. Man United before Ole was struggling to qualify CL every season. Despite Ole didn't win trophies yet, and despite his bad decisions and his limited coaching experience, but he is the only one I believed in. And that's because I can see where the team was, and where it is now. Sir Alex didn't win a single trophy on his starting seasons at Man U, have faith devils!
The problem is mcfred cannot control tempo of the game. The biggest problem is full backs is not intelligence enough. Shaw is good but decision making is not good enough and AWB, 1st touch predictable, body language also worst. Defence wins you title, attack wins you game but our full backs and midfielders is not good enough
Not having a CDM is no excuse to not win anything with this United side. Mourinho won trophies and finished 2nd with a FAR worse team and, in hindsight, terrible players. This United team is one of the best in Europe on paper. If you add a CDM in this team, someone like Pep or Klopp wins the title with no sweat considering the depth we also have. Ole will be exposed this year, he relies too much on individual brilliance and individual brilliance will not win you trophies. I'm a bit annoyed because he will waste a year of Ronaldo before, hopefully, a competent manager comes in.
Mo was not backed by the owner, he won Europa League with that crap team. Worst part was they gave him sanchez when he was asking for defence and winger.
The problem is with the top management buying players to sell shorts.
I don't think the managers had a great influence on transfers in and out other than LVG when the biggest turn over happened. I think CEO office was mostly in charge of recruitment over that period.
They should hire Carlo Ancelotti, Moyes isnt ready for this job
If Jose Mourinho was our manager, I believe that our lineup would be
GK: De Gea, LB: Telles, CB: Varane, CB: Bailly RB: Wan-Bissaka, CDM: Matic, CM: Pogba, CM: Van De Beek, LW: Ronaldo, CF: Fernandes, RW: Sancho
If one manager had sufficient time to implement their system, maybe United would be back to greatness few years ago rather than still trying
Finally common sense! Imagine backing LVG the way they backed Ole! Weâd be challenging for everything đŻ
Jose also should've got the defenders he wanted
@@jirayuvijjakajohn295 what????
I can't understand your words
@@billyshabir4354 we didnt show signs of any challenge under lvg
@@jirayuvijjakajohn295 José got Dalot and Fred after finishing 2nd lol.. in that summer if the board back him like Ole, we would be challenging for the titles
Sir Alex Ferguson won 49 đ
Some legend went back to their club, I think Ole Gunnar should bring back Ronney, so.. everything is done
If they backed mourinho they wouldnât need Ronaldo to win them a tittle...
Mourinho didn't want Ronaldo, he wanted Willian or Perisic, he even fell out with Ronaldo at RM
Never thought Donny Van de Beek would be wasted so much in such a team! I never liked Manchester United, but there is no denying the fact that they have some of the best players with a manager that seems to have a long term plan.
It's been only one season since Donny came in. Let's see how this season pans out for him and then decide whether he is wasted or not at United.
Ole has a long term plan? He spent ÂŁ400+ million and plays counter attack football and ainât won nothing since December 2018? Why canât you just admit heâs a failure cause Klopp pep or Tuchel would have this squad challenging for everything with no excuses!
@@billyshabir4354 He spent ÂŁ360 million and net spend ÂŁ260 milion.
Get your facts right hater.
@@jacdenn8789 is that not more than Mourinho and LVG? Yet Klopp has to sell to buy and within 4 years made a title challenge finished second, got to a Europa league final, won the premier league and won the champions league! All in 4 years while selling the big boys to buy! Pepâs spent as much as ole since Oleâs been there and still won 2 prems and league cups since! Tuchel walked into a team Lampard said couldnât challenge, won the champions league straight away considering they finished below united two years in a row in the league?! They bought lukaku and Saul and are expected to challenge and we bought heaton, Sancho Varane and ronaldo this window yet people wonât take united seriously? I wonder why?đđ€Ą to do with the insanely quality squad? Or to do with ole Phelan Carrick and McKenna in charge? Try using that brain of yours tool đ€Ąđ
@@billyshabir4354 Mourinho has spend ÂŁ350 million. And just look at his recruits. It was mostly marquee signings. Most mentionable Mourinho recruitment that haunted us for long time for his huge wage and being utter flop was Sanchez. Another one ÂŁ50million for Fred.
Except Pogba and Lindellof , none other signing of Mourinho was useful actually when Ole took over.
It was pathetic the squad that has been handed over to Ole. It was worse than current Arsenal level.
Atleast the recruitment under Ole has been perfect. We are again almost back into a title challenging level again. And most importantly, most of Ole's signing has been young ones. So he clearly has a long term plan for United.
We were 6th( 26points) with 19 points off Liverpool (1st) and 8 off Arsenal (5th) after 17 games when Mourinho left( worst start in United's history).
Not to mention his problems with Pogba , Shaw ,etc players and board.
The atmosphere at our dressing room was the worst.
The way Ole turn around the situation in just 2.5 years and ÂŁ260 million net spend is really impressive. Atleast one thing is sure ,even if can't complete what he started ,the next manager will have a much easier job as this team is almost complete for competing at top level. And I sincerely hope and believe he can win major trophies with us. He has the Calibre for it and he really deserves it for what he have done until now.
Ole tactics were too possessional, that's why Lingard and VDB is struggling. Ole should make a short passing team (against laid back team) and possession team (against offensive team)
That's not United's problem. As shown against them that attacks United, United are phenomenal at countering, using their blistering pace. The problem is when they face a low block team. Because United are so left dominant, all they need to do is shut down Shaw and Rashford, and there goes most of United's attack. Man marking Bruno as well. Once Rashford is back, this should give sancho to play on the right as he was intended, and this will give United more width. Another problem is that United moves the ball too slowly against low block teams. The main ball recycler in either Matic, Fred or Mctominay (or two of the three) are either slow, or too limited at this. They need a CDM who can move the ball much faster and more efficiently, and protect the back four
So in other words in the post Ferguson era each manager had a problem in their midfield
Not