GM Hikaru Ranks the Legends, the GOATs, the Theorists | Tier Maker: Greatest Chess Players

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  • čas přidán 14. 09. 2020
  • GM Hikaru Nakamura and IM Levy Rozman, aka @GothamChess discuss the games and rank the legends, goats and theorists from Nimzowich to Carlsen to Kasparov to Anand.
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  • @MoreGMHikaru
    @MoreGMHikaru Před 3 lety +1722

    Hey everyone! We just released the last analysis video for Hikaru's 9LX Champions Showdown performance- it's not one to miss. Check it out by clicking FallKaru or by going here: czcams.com/video/W52QVBhNDOs/video.html

    • @abhayjo
      @abhayjo Před 3 lety +35

      where is the remaining part of this video??

    • @luayabuhani2004
      @luayabuhani2004 Před 3 lety +2

      Hikaru I respect you so much

    • @rhop5213
      @rhop5213 Před 3 lety +6

      I’m gonna laugh every time I see the fall guy Hikaru

    • @arnavrawat9864
      @arnavrawat9864 Před 3 lety +1

      Lovely pfp

    • @Sheep.
      @Sheep. Před 3 lety +2

      The fall guys Hikaru is the guardian angel of this channel.

  • @friedsugar2701
    @friedsugar2701 Před 3 lety +5209

    *Sees Anand*
    India: So, I am very interested.

  • @sandeeppanda7879
    @sandeeppanda7879 Před 3 lety +6532

    As an Indian, I can verify that Anand's contribution and impact on Indian Chess is unprecedented. His own city of Chennai now has >30 GMs (mostly kids and youth). A whole generation grew up watching him. He is also a very polite and kindhearted man, contrary to the champions that came before him.

    • @maverick4900
      @maverick4900 Před 3 lety +81

      @Richard Horrocks Tf lol.

    • @danieldelosreyes6800
      @danieldelosreyes6800 Před 3 lety +30

      You mean the champion after him?

    • @megugu2155
      @megugu2155 Před 3 lety +414

      30 GMs? must be a nightmare for a striving chess player to be there

    • @wizarddev3506
      @wizarddev3506 Před 3 lety +2

      *spassky*

    • @laraweinberg7635
      @laraweinberg7635 Před 3 lety +208

      Emphasis on that last sentence. Fischer in particular was extremely hostile toward women and minorities.

  • @AchillesSeverus
    @AchillesSeverus Před 2 lety +1694

    When you say "Chess" in India, everyone thinks of Vishwanath Anand to this very day. His legacy is surmounted in all our memories.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Před rokem +67

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

    • @zuesr3277
      @zuesr3277 Před rokem +4

      I Only know one name in indian scene his name

    • @aditsaini5094
      @aditsaini5094 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@zuesr3277 prag is a nice player

    • @peterinq
      @peterinq Před 11 měsíci +8

      I don’t think that’ll ever even change, he’s an absolute legend

    • @Cristian-de9iu
      @Cristian-de9iu Před 7 měsíci

      @@aditsaini5094 not even close to the top 3 yet, even drawing against Magnus.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav Před rokem +1008

    I don't know what is more impressive. The sheer amount on Indian GMs inspired by Anand or the fact that Anand is still higher rated than all of them 😂

    • @ZebecZT
      @ZebecZT Před rokem +26

      thats so cool lmao

    • @ngcool4112
      @ngcool4112 Před rokem +3

      lmaoo 😂🤣🤣

    • @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406
      @ramanahveljeyaseelan5406 Před rokem +39

      The 2nd one lol. I thought Anand dropped back a bit but nah he's still highest rated.

    • @kanekiNamikaze
      @kanekiNamikaze Před 8 měsíci +8

      Well this changed last week.. gukesh is currently the highest rated Indian GM

    • @GMPranav
      @GMPranav Před 8 měsíci +14

      @@kanekiNamikaze Well, I am not taking away from Gukesh's achievement, but this is more because Anand isn't playing lol. I bet Anand could beat Gukesh in a classical match right now. But the good thing is that Gukesh seems to be only getting stronger with time.

  • @nikhilvenugopal9731
    @nikhilvenugopal9731 Před 3 lety +9338

    The editor is smart, in order to woo the Indian audience, he puts anand on the thumbnail... Fair play XD

  • @reversal
    @reversal Před 3 lety +4902

    XQC is a theorist. The Wooden shield didn't create itself!

    • @lunchexlizerd3927
      @lunchexlizerd3927 Před 3 lety +119

      Also just one of the all time strongest players of the game

    • @rubenvandevelde555
      @rubenvandevelde555 Před 3 lety +3

      Hahaha

    • @gru9480
      @gru9480 Před 3 lety +71

      also the first person to break the 3000 rating on FIDE

    • @goldyarora1977
      @goldyarora1977 Před 3 lety +18

      @@gru9480 nope. Anand was about 2800 not 3000. Highest rating is around 2882 by magnus and second is Kasparov.

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 Před 3 lety +37

      I saw this in Hikarus twitch chat. Lol

  • @harryishatless
    @harryishatless Před rokem +482

    At 48:12 Levy says, "In terms of his chess; it speaks for itself." Perhaps unwittingly inspiring Niemann's statement two years later. :D

    • @greatmusic142
      @greatmusic142 Před rokem +13

      bro we gotta make this comment popular so im leaving a reply just because, i wanna know if its an actual quote from a grandmaster or is it a coincidence?

    • @Raod14Reference
      @Raod14Reference Před rokem +41

      The foreshadowing speaks for itself

    • @greatmusic142
      @greatmusic142 Před rokem +2

      @@Raod14Reference i like what u did there

    • @ElectroDragon16
      @ElectroDragon16 Před rokem +2

      I was thinking the same lol

  • @wolfslash599
    @wolfslash599 Před 2 lety +505

    Hikaru can literally have a conversation with himself for hours

    • @fujiapple9675
      @fujiapple9675 Před 10 měsíci +18

      And he literally doesn't care, either.

    • @nimnim5149
      @nimnim5149 Před 8 měsíci +11

      and it would go like "take take take take take ... umm take take take take ........... "

    • @SabakuNoGaara2023
      @SabakuNoGaara2023 Před 7 měsíci +3

      So I'm something of a Hikaru myself 🙂

    • @Cristian-de9iu
      @Cristian-de9iu Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@SabakuNoGaara2023Me as well, the fat c:

    • @MP-tf7cc
      @MP-tf7cc Před 7 měsíci

      😂

  • @jayeshyadav8891
    @jayeshyadav8891 Před 3 lety +2802

    The immense respect Hikaru has for Anand is heartwarming ❤️

    • @coolexio
      @coolexio Před 3 lety +32

      And clouding his judgement evidently.

    •  Před 3 lety +98

      or is it to gain indian fans?

    • @dragndorf9
      @dragndorf9 Před 3 lety +109

      @ Hikaru for sure knows what to say to please people lmao

    • @jayeshyadav8891
      @jayeshyadav8891 Před 3 lety +267

      People always find something negative in everything. Why can't it be real respect for Anand? Everything Hikaru says seems legit about Anand. Plus he doesn't need to attract Indian audience.

    • @wortyle
      @wortyle Před 3 lety +151

      Selim Yıldız So you honestly think Hikaru, the chess prodigy and arguably one of the best blitz player in the world, will put his reputation on the line and lie about how great Anand was just so he can gain more CZcams viewers? Sit down.

  • @xoxo94
    @xoxo94 Před 3 lety +1777

    lmao someone in chat says "Lionel Messi vs Adolf Hitler"

    • @lukas4132
      @lukas4132 Před 3 lety +5

      When 🤣🤣🤣????

    • @genghiskhan7515
      @genghiskhan7515 Před 3 lety +6

      Lol reffering to what?

    • @eegoii
      @eegoii Před 3 lety +84

      @@genghiskhan7515 did you even watch the video? Look at the name of players on the chessboard 13:07 Lionel Adalbert vs Adolf Anderssen (Lionel vs Adolf)

    • @ayrangaming8725
      @ayrangaming8725 Před 3 lety +196

      @@eegoii diD yOu EvEn WaTcH thE viDeO???

    • @Michael-xe6im
      @Michael-xe6im Před 3 lety +10

      fcear dsadfadsa 13:56 by xGreekgodx

  • @scoobydoku2464
    @scoobydoku2464 Před rokem +50

    @43:15 Hikaru mentioning Ding as the strongest contendor for #1 and now he is finally world champion

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hikaru knows, always. He is the greatest analyser of the game

    • @user-hb3tt2dd2o
      @user-hb3tt2dd2o Před 8 měsíci

      He is not world champion yet lol

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt Před 8 měsíci

      @@user-hb3tt2dd2o yes he is

    • @TheMaestromMephisto
      @TheMaestromMephisto Před 2 měsíci

      weakest world champion ever

    • @TYLin0
      @TYLin0 Před 20 dny

      @@TheMaestromMephisto The poorest billionaire

  • @mansah707
    @mansah707 Před 2 lety +115

    47:04 my fav moment . Thank you Hikaru. Fischer is a true Legend of the game . He ll never be forgotten.

  • @TGregers
    @TGregers Před 3 lety +1128

    The percentage of work being done in Norway goes down by 85% every time Magnus plays a championship match lol. Couldn't even buy a candybar if you wanted to

    • @Cnut_the_grape
      @Cnut_the_grape Před 3 lety +11

      Wait really

    • @TGregers
      @TGregers Před 3 lety +165

      @@Cnut_the_grape haha no ^^ but it is chess mania for sure

    • @chillax9184
      @chillax9184 Před 3 lety +123

      Just like when Pacquiao has a match. The people in the PH are all on tv, and traffic reduce up to 90-95%

    • @Nerdmonides
      @Nerdmonides Před 3 lety +5

      @@TGregers ja lol...fra Norge også.

    • @reginaaguila1847
      @reginaaguila1847 Před 3 lety +12

      @@chillax9184 as a Fillipino you speak for the people.

  • @jram00
    @jram00 Před 3 lety +238

    One thing I can say for Anand (I'm from India) is that he broke into the ranks when the erstwhile Russia/USSR was still THE dominant force in Chess. When I read about how Russian players had a thriving ecosystem that helped them learn, compete and rise up the ranks, Anand's access to tournaments, sponsorships, and strong players (to learn from) was in a much-diminished quality and quantity. (It brings a smile whenever I think that he had to frequent the Tal Chess Club in the Russian embassy in Chennai to improve his game). This to me justifies his ranking 100%.

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Před rokem +17

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

    • @wishme8739
      @wishme8739 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You guys know that he lived in Spain for very long time to have access to European chess facilities?

    • @harsh....8993
      @harsh....8993 Před 9 měsíci +15

      ​​@@wishme8739and do u that Spain has had only 1 GM with rating of 2700+ in there entire chess history ... So much for European chess facilities lol

  • @greennin
    @greennin Před rokem +51

    Rewatching these old Levy and Hikaru videos. They were all so good, hope they do stuff again someday.
    I was so happy Hikaru rated Anand so highly, that guy is really something else. Even now he's still playing at the top level, in his 50s! He's something else in every way.

    • @toziassmitt
      @toziassmitt Před 11 měsíci +2

      I think levy and hikaru had a falling out after hikaru said levy will never become a GM in his lifetime

  • @manvendra_singh
    @manvendra_singh Před rokem +30

    I'm Indian now migrated abroad, I did not understand the totality of how much Anand contributed to Chess on and off the board. This is just incredible, thank you Hikaru. I love your streams and congrats on being World Champ!!

  • @3dxChetanx
    @3dxChetanx Před 3 lety +1378

    5 Time 5 Time 5 Time
    Booker T Reference. Good one

  • @DarkLawd8
    @DarkLawd8 Před 3 lety +467

    48:00
    Hikaru burst into a laugh expecting his name to be announced by Levy but is devastated to hear Agadmator's name as his face expressions show.

    • @prashant5229
      @prashant5229 Před 3 lety +25

      Is that brutal? Cuz it seems to

    • @DarkLawd8
      @DarkLawd8 Před 3 lety +88

      @@prashant5229 For a person with his ego, yes it is brutal.

    • @prashant5229
      @prashant5229 Před 3 lety +11

      @@DarkLawd8 umm...ok you got a point lol. I'm noticing this too from a while. But it's just a nature of that person :)

    • @Baraa.K.Mohammad
      @Baraa.K.Mohammad Před 3 lety +47

      @@prashant5229 I mean.. from what I've seen, a big ego is really something almost all Chess players that I've seen had in them. I don't know if the game itself forces that kind of behavior or trait, but all that aside, Hikaru is really humble if you watch his streams and compare his attitude to other big huge Chess personalities! His Japanese non-confrontational nature and slightly self-conscious behavior is apparent! So putting that in mind, I think he is really humble for a Chess phenomenon!

    • @douche6106
      @douche6106 Před rokem

      was thinking the same lol

  • @piergyo
    @piergyo Před rokem +17

    Gotham: "DIng Liren? Isn't he getting smoked in the cadidates?"
    2023: *let me introduce myself*

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars3918 Před 2 lety +4

    Both you guys have brought chess back in my life and when I say back I’ve never loved it and played it like I do now

  • @Meddimehell
    @Meddimehell Před 3 lety +729

    Norwegian here. I fully agree with Anand being a God of chess. I am proud of Carlsen, of course, but Anand deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest in chesshistory.

    • @johnstrawb3521
      @johnstrawb3521 Před 2 lety +11

      Carlsen? Thus far at a classical time control has only beaten an old, disinterested Anand, and Nepo having a nervous breakdown. That's it. Granted Carlsen beat Karjakin and Caruana at trivially short speed chess matches, but that's irrelevant towards deciding the World Chess Championship.

    • @CraftyFREAKERS
      @CraftyFREAKERS Před 2 lety +182

      @@johnstrawb3521 oh come on.....magnus is world champion for a reason , stop talking as if he isnt worthy

    • @joske7804
      @joske7804 Před 2 lety +42

      @@johnstrawb3521 stop riding anand so badly, why do you care?

    • @nee7427
      @nee7427 Před 2 lety +11

      @@joske7804 let him speak his heart...why do you care?

    • @sammyttheg412
      @sammyttheg412 Před 2 lety +43

      @@johnstrawb3521 Carlson is a way better player in a way better era

  • @IndrajitRajtilak
    @IndrajitRajtilak Před 3 lety +360

    I know I am biased, don't mind if it is pandering, I LOVE what Hikaru said about Anand. Anand was the reason my dad got me into chess! 5 people in my school were IMs, many of them were inspired by and had met Anand!

    • @user-ww9su7qv6s
      @user-ww9su7qv6s Před 3 lety +39

      Woah 5 IMs in school?! Thats awesome.

    • @generalmalaise2930
      @generalmalaise2930 Před 2 lety +17

      5 ims in one school thats actually astonishing

    • @johnhinkleman9757
      @johnhinkleman9757 Před 2 lety +13

      Not pandering, I’m not Indian and agree with everything he said 100%
      Anand is a saint of chess.

    • @thezerowulf2046
      @thezerowulf2046 Před 2 lety

      I think that speaks to how good he is then.

    • @angelocarterm
      @angelocarterm Před 2 lety

      Funny how today I was looking for the fight between Indra and indrajit and I found you with this name in a Ramdon chess video

  • @manoharbauskar3605
    @manoharbauskar3605 Před 3 lety +16

    No, Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster after Vishwanathan Anand. I remember, that time Grandmaster Vishwanathan Anand and international master Pravin Thhipse were in Indian newspapers for playing in world class tournaments. When Dibyendu Barua became Grandmaster, first time I heard his name. 🙏🙏

  • @bgrowsmars3918
    @bgrowsmars3918 Před 2 lety +7

    Just so you know , your collaborations with Levy are some of my favorites

  • @barindersingh8537
    @barindersingh8537 Před 3 lety +426

    U know when i was kid i doesnt know about chess a single bit, but whenever someone say chess i just know only vishy anand for me he is inspirational, God of chess bcz at that time there are not so many coaches, books, and any other stuf in india, nowdays there is everything on internet,

    • @Myname11241
      @Myname11241 Před 3 lety +10

      remember parle g ,g mane genius

    • @barindersingh8537
      @barindersingh8537 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes

    • @Unknownuser-vq9ul
      @Unknownuser-vq9ul Před 3 lety +25

      And thus Indian chess pride was born. Nowadays there's always at least 1 Indian guy clashing pieces with you on a normal match. I wish the Philippines would have 1 too.( A world chess champion)

    • @barindersingh8537
      @barindersingh8537 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Unknownuser-vq9ul i wish...

    • @aronmendoza297
      @aronmendoza297 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Unknownuser-vq9ul wait me vr0

  • @espeed.soeren
    @espeed.soeren Před 3 lety +211

    how dare u rank the legends?
    Hikaru: "I'm the bongcloud legend, so I do".

  • @lfr234
    @lfr234 Před 3 lety +41

    GM Hikaru: I dont know a whole lot about Akiba: * Goes on to explain like everything related to them*

  • @josegonzalez8177
    @josegonzalez8177 Před 3 lety +11

    Capablanca was so good that Alekhine hired a Team of grandmasters to help him win the title, Changing the dynamic of the game ( at least its the first I have heard of someone doing that) his games are the greatest teaching tool around (for now and probably forever ), for those reasons I consider him a chess god. Euwe was Lucky that Alekhine was avoiding a rematch with Capablanca

  • @GunfireSerenade
    @GunfireSerenade Před 3 lety +130

    GM Hikaru: “So what do you think about X?”
    Levy: “Yeah I don’t know much about X”

  • @hmecGaming
    @hmecGaming Před 3 lety +63

    11:30, Hikaru you are absolutely right, Anand made chess mainstream in India , he has inspire many people in India to play chess and he is still doing it,

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Před rokem +2

      Anand managed to end 80 years of supremacy of the Soviet Union chess school from Alexander Alekhine 1927-vladimir kramnik 2007

  • @haraldkjrgensen2255
    @haraldkjrgensen2255 Před 3 lety +16

    I feel like Carlsen is not only inspiring Norway but all of Scandinavia so Denmark and Sweden to. We in Denmark are also getting hyped for the World Championship and cheer for Carlsen

  • @2floofy
    @2floofy Před 3 lety +12

    Lmao, my entire friend-group plays chess now, and its all due to hikaru, and im sure theres hundreds of thousands who were pulled in by hikaru and pogchamps overall. Hikarus definitely breathed new life into chess for regular-day people everywhere, and for that I dont think he can go anywhere but God of Chess

  • @govardhanreddy1867
    @govardhanreddy1867 Před 3 lety +86

    8:53 Vishwanathan Anand 🙏🙏🙏

  • @lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea8122

    Ending the video right before ranking himself.... most epic cliffhanger ever

    • @Nikhil-ox6wc
      @Nikhil-ox6wc Před 3 lety +15

      @@jackstrider9509 jeez bro. Why did you have to spoil it

    • @JuliusKingsley0
      @JuliusKingsley0 Před 3 lety +25

      @@Nikhil-ox6wc well ofc he would but I’m quite interested in Hikaru’s ranking in his own tier list.

    • @ivanhendr
      @ivanhendr Před 3 lety +1

      Teasy

    • @dragndorf9
      @dragndorf9 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jackstrider9509man's gotta keep his job tbf

    • @kardsufur2966
      @kardsufur2966 Před 3 lety +23

      his own rating will be god level in blitz, 'theorist' in classic normal chess

  • @JazzyArtKL
    @JazzyArtKL Před rokem +28

    Really cool idea, but I miss GM Jan Timman, GM Peter Leko and GM Gata Kamsky.

  • @anmolsrivastava1206
    @anmolsrivastava1206 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I love the fact how much hikaru respects Anand.

  • @gamessportsandmore3371
    @gamessportsandmore3371 Před 3 lety +78

    6-3 with 25 draws is the definition of getting smoked apparently.(capablanca-alekhine).

  • @geonikhil
    @geonikhil Před 3 lety +506

    So here's the index (thank me later)-
    Anand: 08:54
    Capablanca: 32:22
    Carlsen: 36:21
    Caruana: 40:08
    Ficher: 46:55

  • @itzMoJo67
    @itzMoJo67 Před 3 lety +3

    That's aweome they mentioned Agadmator.. if you enjoy watching chess analyse breaking down games, he's the man. been subbed for years.

  • @shafaytariq8409
    @shafaytariq8409 Před rokem +5

    43:22 this backfired.

  • @shreyvarma9375
    @shreyvarma9375 Před 3 lety +280

    Sees Anand on the top
    Le Indian - So you have chosen Likes

    • @winterwarden
      @winterwarden Před 3 lety +6

      this comment is so bad and I love it

  • @manugonzalez4921
    @manugonzalez4921 Před 3 lety +334

    You could have invited Agadmator for this list, to share his vast knowledge.

  • @jonathanbaxter5821
    @jonathanbaxter5821 Před 3 lety +8

    41:05 Levy does great impersonations. That was perfect Caruana.

  • @imnotftw
    @imnotftw Před 3 lety +7

    I wish we got that Karpov - Fischer match. Would've been epic.

  • @bettyjane6684
    @bettyjane6684 Před 3 lety +4

    Love your exchange and personalities - thanks Hikaru and Levy!

  • @JoeKell365
    @JoeKell365 Před 3 lety +436

    you should have made this one with agadmator, considering he does a ton of research for his showings of historic games

    • @danielbozza
      @danielbozza Před 3 lety +16

      This is so poor their knowledge of chess history... i am ashamed 😞

    • @webdevacademy3496
      @webdevacademy3496 Před 3 lety +3

      Absolutely

    • @ArthurSeijiNishikawa
      @ArthurSeijiNishikawa Před 2 lety +2

      To be fair, Levy gives a shout out to him at 48:00

    • @True123.54
      @True123.54 Před 2 lety +6

      @@BHAKTIBROPHY in this video it seems to be about having fun and not being absolutely correct so yeah
      they just had fun :)

    • @deputyvillageidiot
      @deputyvillageidiot Před 2 lety +5

      So many times, Hikaru’s face looks shocked, disappointed, and frustrated by things that Levy says.

  • @killerninja4715
    @killerninja4715 Před rokem +5

    43:26 the irony in 2023 😂

  • @chizuru1999
    @chizuru1999 Před 3 lety +1

    I have been watching your videos Hikaru! Like literally almost every video this past month. Love from India really into chess again after I left playing in 2017-18. 👍🏻😊

  • @TheIkaist
    @TheIkaist Před 3 lety +71

    Hikaru : Anand got a country of Billion people interested in chess.
    Also Hikaru/(His editor) : Puts Anand in the Thumbnail 😏

  • @thegiftedteacher
    @thegiftedteacher Před 3 lety +33

    “It’s not Botez, I’ll tell you that.” 😂😂

  • @udityardass
    @udityardass Před 2 lety +4

    47:55
    Can’t miss but notice how Hikaru thought Gotham was going to name him and suddenly the conversation takes a different path.. Really funny

    • @minephlip
      @minephlip Před rokem

      lmao thanks for pointing that out. The surprise and disappointment on his face is great and he makes it so awkward by just ignoring Levys entire statement about agadmator

  • @alessandrofavaretto4360
    @alessandrofavaretto4360 Před 3 lety +6

    Fun fact: in the Immortal Game, if Kieseritzky, instead of Na6, moved the light-squared bishop to create an escape for his King, he would have probably saved the game.

  • @scuderia7683
    @scuderia7683 Před 3 lety +125

    Hikaru said he doesn't know much about Akiba then proceeds to talk about him so much 😂😂

  • @takispapadopoulos7198
    @takispapadopoulos7198 Před 3 lety +137

    I would LOVE to see Magnus react on this video and give his honest opinion on the ranking of all of these people. Could we please make this a reality?(and of course his agreements/disagreements with Levy and Naka)

    • @Mignon15
      @Mignon15 Před 3 lety +46

      Tbh I think he would hate this kind of list seeing as how they place such weight on influence in the chess world instead of the players' chess skill. It felt a bit more like a popularity list at some points.

    • @Maximocow
      @Maximocow Před 3 lety +36

      Mignon15 well it does say he’s ranking the “legends”. It’s not really possible to rank players on skill because of course players from 2020 would be better than players from 1858. That’s why he’s more talking about their impact on the game of chess.

    • @takispapadopoulos7198
      @takispapadopoulos7198 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Maximocow I agree with you but people like Morphy and Capablanca it's obvious that they were way ahead of their time and would be extraordinary GMs in our time as well. I mean if we can deduce that, all the existing GMs know way better.

    • @Brazz27
      @Brazz27 Před 3 lety +10

      Magnus just doesnt seem to care about this kind of stuff..
      I dont really care either, Im watching because its an easy way to learn a lot of stuff about lots of players I didnt really know anything about..
      But Magnus have nothing to gain from doing something like that

    • @richarddawson5836
      @richarddawson5836 Před 2 lety

      @@Mignon15 This list is a joke. When Hikaru puts himself in God tier it loses all credibility.

  • @bananonymouslastname5693

    I did not expect a Booker T reference. That made me happy in a very silly way. It's fun when the outside of chess personality peeks in.

  • @mhkubaid
    @mhkubaid Před 3 lety +2

    wow man.. the respect you have for Anand, you just deserve respect for thinking that deep!

  • @justamove4137
    @justamove4137 Před 3 lety +95

    At some point Hikaru is gonna take the JUICER

  • @JasonsChannel62
    @JasonsChannel62 Před 3 lety +6

    You two playing each other from famous positions was a good idea for a video series.

  • @krileym
    @krileym Před rokem

    This tier list has always been greaty

  • @animegypsy5925
    @animegypsy5925 Před 3 lety

    A bookerT reference was the last thing I expected on this channel. It made my day!

  • @karthikchakkirala2038
    @karthikchakkirala2038 Před 3 lety +4

    This is great and Hikaru was so right in rankings and taking the objective stand point

  • @sevenheadedmirror8505
    @sevenheadedmirror8505 Před 3 lety +34

    Capa played almost 100 years ago and still ranks top according to programs, that's a GOAT. Bobby super-inspiring but Karpov already had people wondering if Fischer would have retained 1st place the next year after his tragic retirement.

    • @sunritroykarmakar4406
      @sunritroykarmakar4406 Před 3 lety +7

      indian player sultan khan defeated capablanca without prep

    • @sevenheadedmirror8505
      @sevenheadedmirror8505 Před 3 lety +14

      @@sunritroykarmakar4406 Sultan was so awesome, I think Reshevsky and him were the two saddest untapped potentials of chess

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 Před 3 lety +11

      Take into consideration the fact that Bobby crushed the scene like no one else when he entered the chess world. I mean, how many times have you seen people going 6-0 against top players? He even mopped the frickin floor with then best player Spasky!!

    • @xa-1274
      @xa-1274 Před 3 lety +1

      Shamant he had a great run but it was waaay to short run, look at Kasparov, when he was 44 he was the world champion for half of his life, sure fisher was completely dominant, but he retained his title for three years before losing his marbles. He’s a #1 undisputed at best for breaking the Russian curse

    • @BruteZ7957
      @BruteZ7957 Před 3 lety +1

      @@xa-1274 I agree that kasparov was there to stay, but even he didn't completely outclass his opponents like Bobby did. Maybe(mostly) Fischer would lose against kasparov, but chess is a sport where you can't compare players from different times as it gets built on previous knowledge.

  • @mrmathh3680
    @mrmathh3680 Před rokem +1

    48:15 now we know where hans got the "chess speaks for itself" quote from.

  • @rarestcoyne6005
    @rarestcoyne6005 Před 2 lety

    Hikaru you should clip the part that you guys talk about the immortal game. I learned so much from what you said. Its the first game I know by heart now lol

  • @7uc4s
    @7uc4s Před 3 lety +52

    The awkward moment when they were analysing Carlsen .. lol

  • @cringelord511
    @cringelord511 Před 3 lety +425

    because of anand i started playing chess

    • @theodyssey4982
      @theodyssey4982 Před 3 lety +14

      You must be Indian

    • @user-vs3lw6xs7n
      @user-vs3lw6xs7n Před 3 lety +15

      @Vibhav Parekh its rather a fun fact than an issue i think :')

    • @nitishgoyal6851
      @nitishgoyal6851 Před 3 lety +3

      Yes.. mee too

    • @cringelord511
      @cringelord511 Před 3 lety +9

      @@theodyssey4982 yes hikaru rightly mentioned the impact he has had on chess community in india

    • @user-vs3lw6xs7n
      @user-vs3lw6xs7n Před 3 lety +12

      @Vibhav Parekh i think idians are good people, chess community probably thinks the same

  • @CrebleStar
    @CrebleStar Před 2 lety

    I can't believe i heard a Booker T reference in a chess video xD Well done!

  • @MUFFINHEAD1985
    @MUFFINHEAD1985 Před 3 lety +2

    I don't have a clue about how to even set up a chess board but watching these vids are like watching the history of the Sith and Jedis.

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 Před 3 lety +251

    I feel like Mikhail Tal was by far the greatest, especially when we now see the direction chess has gone. We are playing like robots. Mikhail Tal was trying to explore full human potential. Creativity, courage, inspiration.

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 Před 2 lety +26

      Agreed. Computers have taken us forwards but also backwards

    • @joelabraham6834
      @joelabraham6834 Před 2 lety +19

      He's got the most exciting style of play. Im not sure about greatest though.

    • @rajsub3884
      @rajsub3884 Před rokem +10

      He is one of greatest audience also need entertainment not computer like boring game that's what happening

    • @rajsub3884
      @rajsub3884 Před rokem +4

      @@joelabraham6834 I consider greatest only due to fact he was very creative created log of complications which in oid days without engine hard to figure out these days all possible that sixty years ago

    • @zboub7025
      @zboub7025 Před rokem

      @@joelabraham6834 anderssen fits there too

  • @abhisheknegi1794
    @abhisheknegi1794 Před 3 lety +4

    12:20 remind me of Anand interview with Shekhar Gupta. Where Gupta shares his story of meeting Kasparov

  • @kaustubhkulkarni1331
    @kaustubhkulkarni1331 Před rokem +5

    Seeing this video after ding liren has become the world champion😅

  • @SpeakingCommonSense
    @SpeakingCommonSense Před 3 lety

    I'm just a regular guy that was checking out a chess video.
    This Hikaru guy is proof you can be amazingly smart and still socially inadequate.

  • @KirtiKumarKasat1
    @KirtiKumarKasat1 Před 3 lety +393

    Kids offend people, legends like Levy offend countries 😂

    • @yashpandey3.3.3
      @yashpandey3.3.3 Před 3 lety +3

      Which country ??

    • @SK-pj8mg
      @SK-pj8mg Před 3 lety +9

      this aged like fine wine

    • @joelwilliamson3322
      @joelwilliamson3322 Před 3 lety +46

      @@yashpandey3.3.3 Hikaru was talking about China, because Levy said Fabiano Caruana was the undisputed candidate for world champion. This disrespected the Chinese player Ding Liren, who Hikaru said was also a strong candidate. It's kinda funny tho, because recently half of Indonesia was out to get Levy for catching an Indonesian cheater. Look up Dewa Kipas for the story.

    • @yashpandey3.3.3
      @yashpandey3.3.3 Před 3 lety +5

      @@joelwilliamson3322 thanx for explanation☺️☺️

    • @raeeskhan6
      @raeeskhan6 Před rokem

      Levy seems salty to see Anand up there, these whites just want to see themselves above rest of others 😏 (same applies to Ding or any other asian player to be fair)

  • @gyanendramaurya2082
    @gyanendramaurya2082 Před 3 lety +79

    Anand is also having impact on hikaru's youtube view 😂

  • @shaunbang
    @shaunbang Před 3 lety +9

    “He choked on a chicken bone” was so funny 😂

  • @SaurabhShukla_22
    @SaurabhShukla_22 Před 22 dny +1

    a way to describe Anand in India would be like this :
    until recently people didn't know Anand as a chess player, but chess as a game which was played by someone called Viswanathan Anand at International level

  • @davidmes6267
    @davidmes6267 Před 3 lety +7

    Max Euwe has also written over 100 chess books (have a couple) and has really been an inspiration for many in the Netherlands

    • @gweah7821
      @gweah7821 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I have one of his books too. However, considering all the legends like Keres, Rubinstein etc who weren’t world champions, he’s a bit of a fluke world champion. He’s like the Greece of chess champions :)

  • @kardsufur2966
    @kardsufur2966 Před 3 lety +176

    hikaru rating has to be, in blitz: god level
    in classic chess: theorist

    • @srinivaspendurti1170
      @srinivaspendurti1170 Před 3 lety +2

      True

    • @ripcandice70
      @ripcandice70 Před 3 lety +5

      But he’s not even undisputed no 1 in blitz tho?

    • @garry3465
      @garry3465 Před 3 lety +9

      @@ripcandice70 he is ranked 1 in blitz.

    • @ripcandice70
      @ripcandice70 Před 3 lety +20

      @@garry3465 but not the blitz world champion

    • @DLXN-lp9cj
      @DLXN-lp9cj Před 2 lety +1

      @@ripcandice70 well that's the problem , rating wise he is absolutely no.1 in blitz but he's not a world champion , so I would put him in either legend or great + unlucky , but there's a small chance that hikaru could be in the god of chess

  • @kc4276
    @kc4276 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I can’t even play chess (nor do I watch it at all - this video just popped up in my feed), but even I know just about everything about Anand’s career. He was/is absolutely massive in India.

  • @Dagre7
    @Dagre7 Před rokem +2

    Just watching this now and seeing Ding discussed as 'getting smoked in candidates' is quite funny now - hindsight 20/20 I know

  • @knightishraq
    @knightishraq Před 3 lety +105

    Magnus inspired me to enjoy chess more than anything. His apps helped a lot too. I am just a Magnus fanboy I guess.

    • @DLee-jd4yw
      @DLee-jd4yw Před 3 lety +4

      That's definitely valid.

    • @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886
      @imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886 Před 3 lety +5

      Tho i am not Indian but almost anyone would agree with me if I say he is easily in top 8 players of all time.

    • @knightishraq
      @knightishraq Před 3 lety

      @@imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886 i aint one either man xO I am a bangladeshi, I do fall in the same subcontinent tho

    • @SonOfDrogo
      @SonOfDrogo Před 3 lety +2

      @@knightishraq Sherlock wireless network momentarily lost his connection there. xD

    • @perkl1234
      @perkl1234 Před 3 lety +19

      Magnus is the first player in modern history that I feel treats chess more like sport and less like science. He plays these strange opening choices in order to capitalize on his own strengths as a player, rather than trying to find the theoretically "correct" or "best" opening, if that makes sense. And he is undoubtedly one of the greatest ambassadors of chess to ever live, second to maybe only Kasparov. No one can ever beat Kasparovs Deep Blue moment.

  • @laurieprice535
    @laurieprice535 Před 3 lety +5

    I am now a fan of Hikaru,thoroughly entertained by this excellent presentation

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 Před 10 měsíci

      He's an ignoramus about non chess topics

  • @henrykaspar3634
    @henrykaspar3634 Před rokem +2

    Here is my take. First, one can only say which champions stood out relative to the competition at the time. Everything else is mute, as the game changes.
    Champions who clearly stood out - each in a somewhat different way - include Lasker, Capablanca, Botvinnik, Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen.
    Fischer was probably the most dominant player ever, but only for a few years. By contrast, Lasker was the world's best player for 20+ years and in the top 3 for 30+ years - unsurpassed to this day. Kasparov combines longevity and level dominance like nobody else, though Carlsen is getting there. Botvinnik was super-dominant in the late 40s and then elite for another 20 years. Capablanca dominated for maybe 10 years - 1915-25 - and brought chess to a new level, he was elite for 20+ years, while having to deal with Lasker before and Alekhine after him.
    So how do one rate these against one another? It's a matter of perspective. Good arguments speak for Kasparov at the top, but one could also argue Fischer, maybe even Lasker. If you rate Kasparov highly you probably also have a weak spot for Carlsen. If Fischer is your guy you probably rank Capablanca highly too.
    The next category include Alekhine and Karpov, whose already great achievements would look even greater were it not for the brilliance of their immediate predecessors and successors. Karpov was #1 for 10 years, but without Kasparov he would have dominated world chess for 20+. Similar, Alekhine was the world's strongest also for a decade but was sandwiched between Capablanca and Botvinnik. Anand could be added to this group - he was the world's strongest player for "only" about 3 years or so, but he was elite for 20+, and sandwiched between Kasparov and Carlsen. Hard to do better in the circumstance.
    In the pre-championship/early championship age, Morphy and Steinitz can’t be overlooked. Morphy was in terms of peak dominance probably even more impressive than Fischer, though of course the scene in the 1850s was very different from the 1960s and 70s. Steinitz's longevity at the top comes close to Lasker/Kasparov/Karpov dimensions.
    So these are the A-legends of the game if you wish. Then come ‘normal’ world champions like Kramnik, Tal, Smyslov, Petrosian, Spassky, Euwe; and strong non-champions who were a tad unlucky but left their mark on the game: the likes of Caruana, Topalov, Korchnoi, Bronstein, Keres, Reshevsky, Maroczy, Tarrasch, Zukertort. Korchnoi wasn't weaker than Spassky, for example, but was unlucky to peak when Karpov dominated, while Spasski could slip in right before Fischer's period of absolute dominance. Peak Topalov was as strong as peak Anand or peak Kramnik.
    By contrast, ranking legends on the basis of "who would beat who" compares apples with oranges. Every talented 15 years old who knows how to use chessbase and stockfish knows a 1000 times more than Lasker or Capablanca - and hence would beat them on opening preparation alone.
    Based on this, my tentative attempt at an all-time ranking based on significance is below - though I have no problem if people come to other results - this isn't rocket science. I'm reasonably comfortable with my top 11, thereafter it becomes murky. This isn't rocket science.
    1 Kasparov
    2 Carlsen
    3 Fischer
    4 Morphy
    5 Capablanca
    6 Lasker
    7 Botvinnik
    8 Karpov
    9 Alekhine
    10 Steinitz
    11 Anand
    (from here with commentary)
    12 Smyslov - world's strongest player in first half of the 1950s. In the mix for another 30 years
    13 Tal - somewhat erratic but in the mix for 25 years. World's strongest around 1960
    14 Kramnik - never ranked #1 but took the title from Kasparov, elite for some 15 years
    15 Petrosian - 6 years as world champion, strongest player 1962-64
    16 Topalov - FIDE champion, three-way rivalry for #1 with Anand and Kramnik 2005-10
    17 Korchnoi - in the mix for some 30 and #2 for 10 years, incl. late 1970s (Karpov's reign)
    18 Tarrasch - world's strongest around 1890, then second fiddle to Lasker for 10+ years
    19 Spassky - elite for 10+ and in the mix for almost 30 years, world champion in the late 1960s
    20 Zukertort - #2 behind Steinitz 1874-84
    21 Reshevsky - elite from the early 1940s to the mid-1950s, in the mix for #1 twice
    22 Bronstein - briefly the strongest player in 1950/51, elite for 10+ years
    23 Euwe - elite in the late 1930s and world champion, in the mix 1930-50
    24 Caruana - elite for the past 9 years, several years #2 behind Carlsen
    25 Keres - elite in the late 1940s and late 1950-s, in the mix for almost 30 years
    Honorable mention: Maroczy, Anderssen, Gunsberg, Kolisch, Aronian, Paulsen, Rubinstein, Fine, Najdorf, Blackburne, Pillsbury, Bogoljubov.

  • @brianjanson3498
    @brianjanson3498 Před 3 lety +14

    How can you not recognize Alekhine? He was not only one of the best, but was notorious. I've known his face since I was a teenager.

  • @zack1140
    @zack1140 Před 3 lety +33

    Alternative title: Chat typing PogO for 53 minutes straight

  • @adebih8126
    @adebih8126 Před 3 lety +15

    magnus, bobby and kasparov are in the league of their own

    • @joshuagarcia5007
      @joshuagarcia5007 Před 3 lety +1

      You forgot mikhail tal

    • @nubianpwr
      @nubianpwr Před 3 lety +1

      @@joshuagarcia5007 Absolutely - Tal was genius... along with Bobby and Magnus

    • @donkbonktj5773
      @donkbonktj5773 Před rokem +1

      @@nubianpwr Sure Tal was a creative attacking player, but his moves were not as accurate as Fischer and Magnus.

    • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
      @user-bk9fk2tq2z Před 3 měsíci

      Morphy is there alongside Fischer, Carlsen and Kasparov.

  • @prateekkamath0
    @prateekkamath0 Před rokem +3

    8:52 - The Indian Chess Legend Vishwanathan Anand👑🌟

  • @Johnsli
    @Johnsli Před 3 lety +1

    A note to the discussion at 37:40 ish. In India there are 1,3-1,4 billion people. In Norway there are 5 million. So it is not so strange that India have more talents even if the popularity would be the same. In Norway chess has grown, I do not know how many have started playing because of Carlsen but it has certainly become more popular here. And Anand is more than 20 years older than Carlsen, so you will not necessarily have seen the effect in terms of getting through our talents yet. Not to say they ever will, but... The tournaments are broadcasted live on TV.

  • @MrPrush-ji4gs
    @MrPrush-ji4gs Před 3 lety +4

    6:35 when you’re trying to be serious about this particular form of death but your friend almost laughs out loud so you laugh as well and try to describe this form of death in a funnier manner because you know deep down that it’s funny until you realize your friend has already returned to being serious about this form of death and is no longer laughing so you return to act like you’re being serious about this form of death

  • @acerimmerz
    @acerimmerz Před 3 lety +4

    one thing for sure is that India takes it's sports very seriously and always inspired by champions - Anand to chess is almost as of legend to Sachin Tendulkar is to cricket, and Sachin was nicknamed 'god' so perfectly apt

  • @nexesses1548
    @nexesses1548 Před 2 lety +2

    Can you do a tier list of raw player strength? (Which will mostly be modern players). But I always find it more effective to learn from the strongest, not the “most legendary”. Learn from the people who are the most accurate in the most difficult positions. Find tactics that work at the highest modern level. Maybe also people like Dubov who understand the relation of piece value relative to activity and tempo and still competes at the highest level.

    • @kad9947
      @kad9947 Před rokem

      You will see Kasparov in that sea of modern players

  • @JHarder1000
    @JHarder1000 Před 3 lety

    In AVRO? Avro was the Dutch Radio Company that sponsored the super Tournament whwre Kers and Fine tied for first ahead of Botvinnik, Reshevsky , Euwe Alekhine Capablanca and Flohr.

  • @shiffin_chippe
    @shiffin_chippe Před 3 lety +11

    36:19 magnus

  • @therealbs2000
    @therealbs2000 Před 3 lety +6

    43:11 hikaru: watch it levy

  • @x78340
    @x78340 Před 3 lety

    48:30 Most important and most truthful part of the whole video regarding the best player!

  • @zskater1234
    @zskater1234 Před rokem +2

    2 years later Ding is WC

  • @cyrusvanbeethoven4626
    @cyrusvanbeethoven4626 Před 3 lety +14

    Where's the second half of the Video? I wanna see Morphy, Tal, and Chuky get analyzed!!

  • @mayuresh8462
    @mayuresh8462 Před 3 lety +12

    Chess is booming in India and chess will see it's golden days if it goes to it's peak popularity in India. Then u will understand why Vishy is God of chess!

    • @robbob5302
      @robbob5302 Před 2 lety +3

      India is lucky to have Anand. I'm from the US. We have Fischer. Who sadly self-destructed, to our nations embarrassment.
      Cherish Vishy.

  • @miguelheat
    @miguelheat Před 3 lety

    Totally didnt expect nakamura to give a shout out to booker t in this video 😆💪