Quick Easy Test For Stuck Open Evap Purge Valve

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  • čas přidán 5. 11. 2020
  • In this video I show a quick and easy way to test to see if an evaporative emissions purge valve is stuck open due to an internal mechanical fault. (The evaporative emissions purge valve is also known as a vapor management valve.)
    Step 1: Disconnect the vapor tube going to the valve at the valve. The particular tube that is needed to be disconnected will be the one coming from the evap canister to the purge valve. Typically the evap canister is located near the fuel cell. So this tube will typically run to the rear of the vehicle.
    Step 2: Start the engine and allow it to idle. This is important so that vacuum can be applied to the valve. !!! WARNING: BE SURE THE VEHICLE IS IN PARK AND THE PARKING BRAKE IS ON. KEEP THE VEHICLE IN PARK WITH THE PARKING BRAKE APPLIED!!!
    Step 3: Disconnect the valve's electrical connector. It is important to do this because the PCM may cause the valve to come on allowing vacuum to pass 0through the valve giving inaccurate test results. It is normal to have the PCM command the valve on. Also, if there is an electrical fault it could cause the valve to stay on allowing vacuum to pass through the valve causing inaccurate test results. A mechanically sound valve should not allow vacuum to pass through it when the valve is not commanded on by the PCM. Disconnecting the valve electrically helps with getting accurate test results by isolating the valve.
    Step 4: Place a wet finger over the opening of evap purge valve nipple. No vacuum should be felt. If so, then the valve is stuck open and is faulty. (Do note: in the case of a very small leak, special leak detection equipment may be needed. It's been my experience however, that 99% of the time if the valve is stuck open a leak can be detected in the manner shown in the video.)
    Definition of "Normally closed solenoid/valve": A solenoid that is closed when no electrical current is supplied to the valve.
    Caution: Keep all ignition sources away from work area. Fuel vapor may be present in tube and valve. Fuel is very flammable. Even with all sources of ignition removed from the area fuel vapor can still ignite via other means. Use extreme caution. Keep a fire extinguisher handy. Work in a well ventilated area. Do test at your own risk!
    Caution: Use extreme caution when performing this test. Beware of moving parts that could potentially injure you. Keep your members clear of moving parts. Keep loose garments and jewelry away from moving parts.
    Caution: Be sure the vehicle is in park and that the parking brake is applied before performing this test!!
    DISCLAIMER
    Barbour's Auto Help is not responsible for any damage or personal injury incurred in the process of performing any auto repairs done by you the viewer. Automotive repair is extremely dangerous. Repair your vehicle at your own risk. It is the viewers responsibility to verify all information and procedures as outlined in YOUR REPAIR MANUAL AND OWNERS MANUAL FOR YOUR VEHICLE. Owning and using a repair manual suited for your vehicle is essential for correctly and safely performing ANY repair to your vehicle. Always wear safety glasses and heed all instructions for use applicable to any piece of equipment you may use. Due to circumstances out of the control of Barbours Auto Help, Barbours Auto Help makes no guarantee that by the use of the information given in this video a quality repair will be made. Barbour'sAutoHelp makes no guarantee that the information provided is totally complete, syncronized and accurate. Verify everything using an appropriate repair manual.
    USE THE INFORMATION FOUND IN THIS VIDEO AT YOUR OWN RISK! YOU CAN GET HURT. BE CAREFULL.
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Komentáře • 222

  • @than217
    @than217 Před 2 lety +208

    I love how the connections in this video come right off. I'm trying to remove them right now and it's like concrete.

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 2 lety +54

      Yea, after over 20 years in the industry I've never once had to struggle with anything.....ever... lol.

    • @Cathida
      @Cathida Před 2 lety +8

      WD-40 help?😂 G🍀L if your still have troubles.

    • @live86coal
      @live86coal Před 2 lety +2

      Lol

    • @skud9999
      @skud9999 Před 2 lety +3

      @@BarboursAutoHelp I'm an appliance repair technician. Same here. Lol

  • @blakeuhl8731
    @blakeuhl8731 Před 3 lety +75

    Not over-thought. Short, sweet, efficient, excellent tech tip!

  • @gklcinc
    @gklcinc Před 2 lety +8

    2013 Toyota Tundra. Did this test and it worked! Simple fix as well. Thank you very much my friend.

  • @wrenchguy3942
    @wrenchguy3942 Před 3 lety +10

    Much appreciate the help brother! After watching I troubleshooted the problem and replaced the valve

  • @chgofdsteve
    @chgofdsteve Před 2 lety +20

    Great video! right to the point, with good camera work! 10/10!

  • @STRATTONSGARAGE
    @STRATTONSGARAGE Před rokem +2

    Excellent video you speak very clear and precise and you know as well as I do how important that is. Great job

  • @darylkik6204
    @darylkik6204 Před 2 lety +9

    After watching subpar videos it was a relief to find yours. I do not know how you find the time to answer so many peoples questions listed below. But because of your good faith and help I have subscribed and will watch more videos. Thank you.

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 2 lety +1

      That's great. Thank you for subscribing! I appreciate it.

  • @michael-lynn
    @michael-lynn Před rokem +16

    Thank you! I really appreciate the help. Your diagnosis worked and was very simple. I had a brand new purge valve installed that I suspected was faulty. I replaced it with another purge valve and it corrected the problem. Was getting a p0456 code and the smell of fuel vapor that I couldn't locate.

  • @freelandaudits3737
    @freelandaudits3737 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the video.. I didn't even think about removing the connector and checking the valve.. sure enough, constant very powerful suction..

  • @nicktaylor4807
    @nicktaylor4807 Před měsícem

    Wish I would have seen this a year ago. Thanks so much for sharing

  • @dark666leo
    @dark666leo Před 2 lety +2

    Excelente video me sirvió de mucho ya había checado todas las conexiones y no daba con la falla asta que realice la prueba que dijo y listo solucionado lo hice en una gmc canyon 2009

  • @st-gelaiskevin9202
    @st-gelaiskevin9202 Před 2 lety +7

    So simple...
    Sharing your knowledge with us is really, really nice and I thank you Sir.

  • @jeanjeanty9128
    @jeanjeanty9128 Před 2 lety +3

    Good diagnostic tip right to the point. Thanks

  • @bbmd2200
    @bbmd2200 Před 3 lety +5

    Great tip as always!

  • @macegarage9603
    @macegarage9603 Před 2 lety

    good thing , aside from testing the wiring for current flow or voltage,
    another way to quickly find if it is a stuck open purge valve,
    Ow yeah , just don't forget to reset or clear that code if so ever it throws any.
    Thanks man for this, gonna see more of your videos sooner, peace!

  • @Convoycrazy
    @Convoycrazy Před rokem +1

    Appreciate the video buddy. I have the old style OBD1 with the vacuum operated purge.. was tryin to figure out if it was normally closed / normally open. I guess the design theory is when you apply throttle and the manifold vacuum drops, the purge valve opens.. anyways thanks a lot

  • @dko8546
    @dko8546 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video. I did this test today and don't have a stuck solenoid. Now, on to the next possible issue.

  • @williammason7092
    @williammason7092 Před rokem +1

    I always enjoy watching your videos I have done a Ford Edge water pump after watching you do one

  • @63paulc
    @63paulc Před rokem

    Thank you for the info sir I was able to diagnose my girlfriends car ,you were a big help

  • @davewilson7422
    @davewilson7422 Před 3 lety +17

    This is an easy, straightforward way to do a quick test. And a ding of a lot less than a Ford dealer will "hose" (pun intended) me for. If it IS stuck open, is there a danger in essential driving until the new one arrives? (2 days) I heard somewhere that it could fill the canister with gas. And that begs the question, if I don't want vacuum to the canister, can I drive with the hose plugged until the new valve comes? Thanx much for this. Hopefully it saves a trip to a high priced shop.

  • @shortgeorge8272
    @shortgeorge8272 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks, helping the simple made clear

  • @kevinmcgehee5557
    @kevinmcgehee5557 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good explanation!

  • @quanganh4768
    @quanganh4768 Před 10 měsíci

    The great video. Thanks alot and Best regard

  • @donfrancisco808
    @donfrancisco808 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
    Go

  • @adrianburns548
    @adrianburns548 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @patrickrobinson317
    @patrickrobinson317 Před rokem

    Very Helpful - Thanks Bro !!!

  • @timbowe9519
    @timbowe9519 Před 2 lety

    WOW VERY WELL EXPLAIN THANK U FOR DAT U DA BEST.

  • @luiscarrasquillo8299
    @luiscarrasquillo8299 Před 2 měsíci

    Great tip! Thank you

  • @tm5346
    @tm5346 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for video

  • @benedictdelcastillo
    @benedictdelcastillo Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you!

  • @johnnyharris9851
    @johnnyharris9851 Před rokem

    Great explanation, thanks!

  • @StrangerinaStrangeLand-im4yl

    My canister purge valve seems to be stuck partially open when unplugged as well, plus the engine idle would bog down some every 10-15 seconds. It eventually caused my fuel tank to implode/shrink while going down the road.

  • @johnsimpson7349
    @johnsimpson7349 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @FireEater
    @FireEater Před 2 lety

    Great video thanks for sharing

  • @lindarumfelt2922
    @lindarumfelt2922 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing

  • @FDbroadcasting
    @FDbroadcasting Před 2 lety +6

    Do you need to reset the fuel trims in the ecu after replacing the faulty valve?

  • @melissahoward4842
    @melissahoward4842 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the video!

  • @georgematthew1
    @georgematthew1 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @sirkobstv3785
    @sirkobstv3785 Před 2 lety +2

    Nice content
    New subscriber beacause of this

  • @richardmoreno1338
    @richardmoreno1338 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you Barbours Auto

  • @forexcontratosfuturos9290
    @forexcontratosfuturos9290 Před 9 měsíci

    it causes code P2198 in my ford edge. I did this test, and YES!! there is a vaccum with the eletric cable disconnected. the valve is stuck open! thanks, I will buy a new one

  • @sniperpaintcorrection6790

    Thank you I have a 07 galant and getting p0441 code it wasn’t the gas tank cap tho

  • @michaelcolagiovanni9195
    @michaelcolagiovanni9195 Před 3 lety +5

    Anyone know if it's possible for the purge valve to be noisy, yet still operate normally? The car runs perfectly fine and there are no codes, but the purge solenoid makes a lot of noise and I haven't seen this issue before

  • @christopherhampton8364
    @christopherhampton8364 Před 2 lety +1

    This might be the issue I’ve been hunting on my civic for 3 months🤞🏻

  • @jrfindsjr.originalsfm8814

    I have a 2004 f150 XL heritage my question is, can you blow in through the canister purge side when it’s disconnected because I know it’s supposed to be open when it’s connected when I put a vacuum to the intake, engine side on the purge solenoid it holes vacuum, but when I blow in through the other side from the canister purge site when it’s disconnected air goes through and comes out the intake engine side of the purge solenoid ?

  • @AutoRepairingMan
    @AutoRepairingMan Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video

  • @mkate3959
    @mkate3959 Před 2 lety

    2007 Toyota Sequoia check engine light lit up and the other lights as well. Gas cap has been changed, gas cap always is tightened correctly. Now I am told that the Purge Valve is making the check engine light up, nothing to do with the gas cap. The Purge Valve will cost $350-$500 to replace next time the check engine lights up. ~ Fort Smith Arkansas

  • @johnjohnson-qe3gt
    @johnjohnson-qe3gt Před 2 lety +8

    Everytime i fill my gas up and leave the gas station my rpms fludder down if i come to a redlight. It goes away after a few miles though. No check engine light on. Could this be the purge valve? And do i need to change valve and canister?

  • @dereksellsmi
    @dereksellsmi Před 2 lety

    Hello, my Grand Cherokee’s purge valve is making a tapping or ticking noise. Is that normal and indicative of it functioning properly?

  • @VZGarage
    @VZGarage Před 2 lety +1

    Damn such amazing videos I got to do this on Spanish! 😃

  • @lizog5008
    @lizog5008 Před 2 lety +2

    Will a bad purge valve get a 02 sensor code as well ?

  • @samuraikenshinn
    @samuraikenshinn Před 9 měsíci +1

    I test mine same way, disconnect the hose of the gas tank and place a finger in the valve, if you feel vacuum is a fault valve, the valve make a rough idle, shut off when running, hard to start. THANKS

  • @OMARENGG22
    @OMARENGG22 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks bro.

  • @dannybrazil3986
    @dannybrazil3986 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a 2005 ford ranger my purge valve has a 3rd port that's capped off with a green threaded cap it's on the opposite side of the other 2 ports , I want to say it's a service port? Would that port be where I would test the valve for having vacuum or no vacuum.

  • @luiginumbaone
    @luiginumbaone Před 3 lety +1

    Hey I recently changed my purge valve on my 09 toyota camry and I want to find out how to close it.

  • @cecilwright4017
    @cecilwright4017 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a question. Can it stop a vehicle from starting? Or have u heard of that before. I have one that finally failed....and my vehicle won’t start. Changed everything, plugs, fuses and sensors then I remember I never got to changing my purge valve that was bad several yrs ago.

  • @wilnoreugene1582
    @wilnoreugene1582 Před 2 lety

    I have a 2014 escape eco boost and I’m smelling evaporated gas through the vents . Could that be the same thing ?

  • @carlorocky
    @carlorocky Před rokem

    I’m working on a mystery and collecting clues. I have a 1996 Nissan Quest, 140k miles, strong smell of gas in the cabin. I also have a terrible low speed hesitation, it bogs down and noses over when accelerating from a stop. I recently replaced spark plugs, fuel filter, air filter and cleaned the MAF sensor. It got a little better but it’s still pretty bad especially with the a/c on. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

  • @muddinbros4873
    @muddinbros4873 Před 2 lety

    So while its running pull the electrical connector off and the vacuum line testing if it's got pressure which is bad

  • @206elprimo
    @206elprimo Před 3 lety +1

    What causes purge valve solenoid to have gasoline inside on a 2006 f150 4.6L please help

  • @jasonnasiry
    @jasonnasiry Před 2 lety +1

    i keep getting P0456 on mitsubishi 02 galant went away and back after 3 new gas cap and the oem model but still pops up any suggestions?

  • @lh98
    @lh98 Před 3 lety +7

    How about testing the valve by putting voltage to the valve? Listen for the click

  • @adelinolumbongo2526
    @adelinolumbongo2526 Před rokem

    Good day
    My 2009 Ford Expedition with a 5.4 L engine is misfiring rough idle put a scan tool to it gave me a code P0453.
    Changed the sensor on top of the fuel tank no leaks in the EVap system. Still doing the same

  • @jessebarbour5030
    @jessebarbour5030 Před 3 lety +1

    Subscribing not only for the great info but because we share the same last name.

  • @jessejameshurtadoiii9916

    Can this cause a p0430?? Or even a fuel filter that's old or clogged???

  • @strahinjicban4682
    @strahinjicban4682 Před rokem

    Hello, can i just turn it off electricaly (plug out) for a test drive, i mean is it safe for car, will not cause some damage??

  • @darrenbrown7669
    @darrenbrown7669 Před 2 lety +1

    No videos on crown Victoria evap vent canister please doone

  • @felix2916
    @felix2916 Před rokem

    I just did the procedure in an 08 explorer 4.6 v8 and it sucked my finger a bit. Not sure if I'm this vehicles the valve should be normally closed or open

  • @deloisrichardson6054
    @deloisrichardson6054 Před 3 lety

    Hi, I have a jaguar xtype 2005,i have code 442,but can not find it??

  • @JQUiK84
    @JQUiK84 Před rokem

    Question I cleaned mine out the car is running way faster is that what it do?

  • @allenleavell2847
    @allenleavell2847 Před 3 lety +1

    Could this cause possible lean codes? On my 2015 Chevy Impala I have a check engine light on for lean codes and I hear an air leak in the back of the intake somewhere. It sounds like it's coming from the purge valve but I'm not completely sure

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety

      Typically these cause rich codes when the fail like this.

  • @blankman8021
    @blankman8021 Před 9 měsíci

    So if it's not pulling a vacuum after it warms up, does that mean it's stuck closed?

  • @zhangtiger9651
    @zhangtiger9651 Před 3 lety +1

    Solenoid Purge Valve stuck close how i check it pelase

  • @ColdperpetratorLv
    @ColdperpetratorLv Před 2 lety

    So I have exactly what this guy said. I put gas it ran ruff idles ruff wow

  • @pangelmontalvo16
    @pangelmontalvo16 Před rokem

    that's a good video ty.can the purge valve get stuck in the closed position?

  • @JD-ke3ff
    @JD-ke3ff Před 2 lety +1

    2004 Toyota Camry

  • @murphytoadster9864
    @murphytoadster9864 Před rokem +1

    My 4.9 bronco runs like crap and wants to die unless I bypass the solenoid and run tube open straight from charcoal canister to intake.

  • @phillipcalderon9877
    @phillipcalderon9877 Před 2 lety +5

    Hey, thanks for your video, I have a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.7L V6 4x4, I've gotten both P0455 (large leak) & P0456 (small leak), I will try your test today, but when both codes present, could the purge valve still be the issue?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, a faulty purge valve can cause a large and small leak.

    • @phillipcalderon9877
      @phillipcalderon9877 Před 2 lety +5

      @@BarboursAutoHelp yeah you were right! That fixes it! Thank you!

  • @Pccpy
    @Pccpy Před rokem

    Can you clean it instead of buying new one?

  • @ccas6771
    @ccas6771 Před rokem

    2001 Audi TT code P0422. Could this be my issue?

  • @kchilz32
    @kchilz32 Před 3 lety

    Will this work on a 2006 Chevy cobalt ls? Thanks

  • @amandabell5756
    @amandabell5756 Před rokem

    Where is the purge valve located on a Ford mustang 1997

  • @AlecDaStar
    @AlecDaStar Před 3 lety +6

    What about a clicking noise from the cap connected to purge valve when I start my car?

    • @longohome
      @longohome Před 3 lety +2

      That is the valve opening and closing. They are closed with no current. Open with current.

  • @tftcride
    @tftcride Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. Is Evap Purge Valve the same as Canister Purge Valve/Solenoid?

  • @michaeldysart2271
    @michaeldysart2271 Před 3 lety +1

    Question. My 04 mustang gt been sputtering when I give it alot of gas. And when you fill up with gas it kicks pump off and you can hear air. So I went to check the purge valve first and the vacuum line to the intake from the purge valve is collapsed. Took it off and it was still sucking but not alot. Put it back on and checked the one to the tank and didn't feel no vacuum from it. Kept it off and it still sputters when hard excellerating. Could it just be the collapsed hose? It still sucks but prob not enough

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety

      Maybe you have a misfire. Are you setting any codes?

    • @michaeldysart2271
      @michaeldysart2271 Před 3 lety

      Only code I'm getting is fuel rail sensor but I've replaced it 3 times with 3 different new ones.

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety

      @@michaeldysart2271 Shoot...I'm not sure.

  • @streetDAOC
    @streetDAOC Před měsícem

    Is it possible to have a faulty purge valve and the truck not throwing any codes?
    2018 ford f150 xlt 5.0
    Truck doesn’t turn over after stopping to get gas after long (cross country) drives. (Only starts if truck is left to sit for 20-30 minutes)
    Good starter, good alternator, good battery, no leaky injectors, fuel pump fuse is good.

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před měsícem

      So when you say that the vehicle doesn't turn over, to me that means that it's not cranking. Is this what you are saying? The engine is not cranking? That would be what we call a "no crank/ no start" scenario. Now if the vehicle cranks but doesn't start then that is a "crank/ no start" scenario. A stuck open purge valve will not cause a "no crank/ no start" scenario but could possibly cause a "crank/ no start" scenario. But, it's hard to believe that the purge valve could be causing this and not setting a check engine light to come on. That would be one heck of a leak to cause that symptom.

  • @stevewilliams4777
    @stevewilliams4777 Před 2 lety

    I know they are in 2 different locations but are the purge valve and vent control valve the same part?

  • @peterh2800
    @peterh2800 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Thank you very much*********

  • @walterquinones7991
    @walterquinones7991 Před 3 lety +2

    Do you do the same to the leak detector pump too ???

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety +1

      Are you referring to the expensive leak detector pump that shops use to diagnose evap leaks?

    • @walterquinones7991
      @walterquinones7991 Před 3 lety

      @@BarboursAutoHelp i was trying to show a picture but i can't i was talking under the car i have a 04 chrysler pacifica

  • @bazanemilio09
    @bazanemilio09 Před 2 lety +2

    Is this part the same as a egr vacuum solenoid?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 2 lety +1

      It may work similarly but the egr vacuum solenoid and the evap purge valve are not the same part.

  • @bigrad86
    @bigrad86 Před 2 lety +1

    👍

  • @lorrainefoster1268
    @lorrainefoster1268 Před 3 lety +1

    Where can i find the purge valve on a mercedes benz 190E 2.3?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety

      I really don't know. Maybe another viewer can answer that.

  • @bowesman1000
    @bowesman1000 Před 2 lety +1

    my wifes 08 G35 had a P0455 code. i reset code and hasn't come back on yet. can this effect her gas mileage. car used to get 20 mpg, now its gettin 16 over a period of last two years. i am going to replace valve i bought already but hasn't done it yet. p.s all normal maintenance been done including plugs at 96k car has 102k on it. any suggestions?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 2 lety

      It's hard to say. There are a lot of factors that can affect fuel economy. I suppose it may be possible but I'm not really sure if that is causing an issue like that.

  • @jasonmorris9138
    @jasonmorris9138 Před 2 lety

    I just tried it I can't feel any air going in or coming out

  • @timbosolo1629
    @timbosolo1629 Před 3 lety

    Hello the was a good video , I recently fix my cooling deposit because it was leaking and now that i put it back in it still gets a almost to the red hot but now it makes this noise like it wants to turn off and the acceleration goes up and down what can it be

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety

      Don't know. Have you considered having a tech look at it?

  • @jainorman3425
    @jainorman3425 Před rokem +1

    My engine light on because of canister purge valve

  • @shadow13888
    @shadow13888 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a 98 dodge dakota the pcv valve ticks and was bought new why is that?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe a bad part... not sure. When does it click and under what conditions?

  • @Rtb323
    @Rtb323 Před rokem +2

    Would a Evap purge canister cause the smell of gas ?

  • @michaelmcfeely6588
    @michaelmcfeely6588 Před 8 měsíci

    Is the vent valve a normally open type?

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 8 měsíci

      An evap vent valve is a "normally open" valve on the majority of vehicles out there equipped with an evaperative emissions system.

  • @user-ex6zd8rw4i
    @user-ex6zd8rw4i Před 9 měsíci

    Hello, Do you know why my engine is not sucking in air? It turns on and runs just fine. I am not getting no air sucked in even when I removed the purge valve. I tested the purge valve by applying voltage and it opens and closes. Thats when I realized that engine is not sucking in air regardless.

    • @BarboursAutoHelp
      @BarboursAutoHelp  Před 9 měsíci

      What vehicle are you working on and are you sure you checked the right part?