Phil Hay: I Believe in Miracles (Don’t You?)
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2024
- It looks like the playoffs for Leeds United. Or does it? Almost certainly. Phil previews the final game of the regular season against Southampton.
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If its the play off lads....I'll be thinking of you boys. And cheering on Leeds. Good lads you boys. Nice people....Great podcast🎉
Hfield will want to do us a favour and smash Ipsw 4-0 and we win 6-0 against Samton and then ....... I woke up !
“It's not the despair, Leeds. I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand"
How much of the recent form could be put down to the lack of player rotation, game to game but also in game? With our squad, we had the luxury to be able to rotate more without losing as much but it hasn’t happened. Sure Struijk injury has cost us but so has not having a right back to being forced into limited on our CM rotation but that comes down to Farke too. It would be a mistake to sack him - crazy - but it would be nice to see him learning and adapting to what has happened this season.
YES WE BELIEVE!!!!... WE BELIEVE!!!!
I would have accepted the playoffs more if we had managed to get into the top 6 late on. Having been in a position of getting automatic promotion and effing it up we now have no momentum going into the playoffs.
It is a tricky one, but 90 points from the doom and gloom of last August? The bigger picture shows how well we done. Injuries and a loss of form at the wrong time causes meltdowns on line. We just have to hope for a resurgence now.
I went with my Dad to St Andrew’s. Tragic. Long trip home listening to James Whale.
Thing with Leeds fans and our past heartbreaks is that we still remember and almost wear the scars with pride where as clubs like Man City have forgotten that they were like a bad smell in manchester for many many years. They think there was nothing before the money came. In no way would i like to be like these glory supporters who seem to crawl out from under a rock but i think it would do all of the leeds mob good for a new dawn and something to show us we are not like that any more. Playoffs is as good a time as any to do that. Still confident huddersfield beat ipswich and piroe scores a worldy for a 1-0 win though 😅.
I'd never heard of a man shitty supporter until dirty money bought them other than in the excellent film 'there's only one Jimmy Grimble'.
@@keithfreeman7725 yes mate, What a film that is. "'Gi it to gordon!!!"
On the plus side, its been a lot of fun being at ER this season (blackburn excluded) enjoyed the Leicester and preston games especially. My fear is that we get Hull in the playoffs and they completely out play us. 😬 holding out for the miracle, but been supporting leeds long enough to prepare for the worst and hope for the best...
It has been a good and exiting season for us and we are not done.
Exiting for sure, exciting? It's been dullball
Embrace the play offs, so true.
Leeds been Leedsy...it's been underpinned by the club having dubious owners ever since Leslie Silver - hopefully the 49ers will be different, should be fine...
So refreshing to listen to Leeds supporters talk without the usual arrogance and self importance that we have seen from so many of you all season long.
Think if huddersfield go 2 up its probably better if nobody tells our lads on the pitch.
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It was obvious Huddersfield didn't want to spoil the Ipswich party and see Leeds promoted...They were never a threat and just went through the motions...
What everyone seems to have forgotten, the owners said at the start of the season, there are plans in place for a 2nd season in the champo. The fan base became more entitled in their attitude that we couldn’t fail to go up. So now we have to get back to reality and get back to fighting hard for the badge again. MOT.
called ambition not entitlement, stop regurgitating joes comments
I call it pessimism rather than entitlement. Its likely we will have a weaker squad next year
A ridiculous view: in life you take advantage of the opportunities that arise however unexpected. If you fail to take them saying that you weren't expecting them may be psychologically comforting but you are just adjusting yourself to failure. Farke has blown it since the break. Listening to him now is just embarrassing.
@@jeffgleisner890 perfectly summed up
Top three in the championship should get promotion,then fourth,fifth and sixth should play off against third bottom in the Premier. Any team finishing in the top six in the championship has had a good season and deserves at least that. Im not just saying that because we're likely finishing third either,honest. 😄
The time for Joseph was after Chelsea while he was on a high - but he didn’t come on at all the next game. We’d know by now if it was a good option or not if he’d played him more.
Not saying he should have started the next games but brought on with more time, 20-30min most games would have made sense and occasionally starting him.
Things started going wrong when we changed Archie from right back to midfield.. plus that silly Roden and Amps split up .
Hope and optimism are things I have had for 60 years. I do hope I can get a ticket next season. Probably win the lottery before that happens.
As usual an intelligent discussion on where we are now , set in the context of previous 16 seasons up and down. I think the bit you missed was the role of the Elland Road crowd. Press reporters and fans visiting talk about Leeds being a "fortress" " passionate fans" ' just like the Geordies for sheer support" etc etc;
But you all know the down side of that, as the Leeds crowd get anxious very quickly and that spreads onto the pitch with players rushing a pass or whatever.
The long term paranoia of the collective that is the Leeds fan base means there's as much bile as this is blind support for players. One bad game and he is `"shite" sell him now".
Maybe in a large city with a single Football club ( sorry about that Guiseley AFC) with a strong Rugby League support base, fans of LUFC are too thin on the ground in the city itself?
Ive been following ups and downs since 1956, by the way. Beeston Boy
That's why I like listening to Phil. He understands the bigger picture and how it works.
Rather than the CZcams content creators that somehow think they're professional broadcasters or pundits, because they've invested in some camera equipment 😴🤦♂️🤣
Yes Leeds does seem to have a large number of supporters from the smaller towns in our area. This will affect how they cope with failure.
By the way I think there is an unjustified tendency to lump all Leeds fans together. Speaking for myself I gave never felt this paranoia. It's a bit ironic to hear Dan calling for fans to shed it when he is one of its perpetrators along with the dreadful Radio Leeds people
It will be 2-0 to Ipswich within about 10 mins. We should be fully in the play off mindset (which we will inevitably lose to whoever we play in the semis).
Defeatist mindset - never played in playoffs with Farke or 49ers in charge. Reords are there to be broken - all 4 teams start with equal pressures and our manager has done promotion twice
@@LeedsDowninSouthAfrica supporting Leeds United Football Club mindset.
Play the kids!!
@@LeedsDowninSouthAfrica
Not through playoffz?
Decided to 'read' bran flakes crumbs this morning for a vision of tomorrow's matches.... Leeds beat Southampton but, having held Ipswich at 1-0 for 90 minutes, Huddersfield concede a goal in the 11th minute of extra time and Ipswich get the draw....😬
Hilarious 🙄
@@RayPringle-on6fy why so sad? 🤔 😂
or more like recent weeks, Leeds lose and Ipswich lose, doh
@@leccybadger Why the same stupid done a hundred times statement 🙄
We were able to deliver at key moments… the games against Ipswich and Leicester home and away are case in point… enough with this team doesn’t cope at key moments.
We were all screaming for Joseph before the game. When Farke didn’t bring him on at half time was the final straw for me. Farke is like a rabbit in the headlights, just clueless.
He was never good at changing a game at Norwich. He sets up his team and it either works or it doesn't. He can't do in game management
Huddersfield are throwing the game by looks
We all forget that the Revie team lost more finals than they won and were runners up more times than champions. The frustrations were different.
No we don't all forget that
Bur we knew they could and would overcome the setbacks because there was no incentive for players to go elsewhere, in short, we had a stable playing squad. And we had DR, Les C, Bill O and Uncle Tom C ...
if they dont go up, they may well have to play gelhardt, Joseph, Antony etc because they've had to sell the big earners and then we'll know what they are made of
Excellent suggestion. And Cresswell.
I understand the presenters have to let the fan base down gently, as they wouldn't in the future be drip fed by the club if they were very harsh. I have to observed this, Farke knew exactly what the injury situation was with all of the players, he even played a player who had just had an operation and was clearly off form, but still played him. Piroe through no fault of his own had hardly played, but he was a top scorer for the last two seasons, so why was he bought, you don't waste 16M on a player and then let him sit on the bench despite some have said he doesn't fit the system, how about integrating the player into the favoured system? This extends to the rotation in the squad, he knew he was handling internationals, who would want to play for their country and likely be injured where was the planning in that regard and a backup plan? He clearly does not rate the bench, so in that case why are they here, he could pick the U23's, Anthony has come from the PL only to sit on the bench for most of the season, as with the rest of the bench. The fact is that Rutter, Cree, Gnonto and BumFluff were being relied upon to win matches, Farke became complacent and when the goals dried up, partly due to teams working how how to stop it, he couldn't switch to plan B. Then theres the issue with the midfield, of which Rutter is part of, in the last 6 games the midfield has been non existent, so he didn't fix it whys that? Then theirs the appalling stats on dead ball, freekick and corners, we don't score any? And then there's the diabolical late substitution's and throwing on all of your attackers in the dying embers of a game where's the strategy in that? Seriously Farke has been found out, he was riding on the back of quite a lot of brilliant moments in games where realistically we weren't playing very well, even after xams I thought in many games we were fortunate to win. Your not going to be remembered for scoring 90 points and getting third place. Farke had not just one chance to secure promotion he had several, and he couldn't get the team at his disposal to get results, despite the condition of the squad. The team in my opinion had lost confidence in Farke, after Sunderland and BB game, and then fell out with themselves when the goals started going in from weaker opposition, this was our crystal palace moment of last season of which saw Gracia being sacked a few games later. I said this before, we need to sell all of the luxury players like Gnonto, Summerville, Rutter, Meslier, Firpo, Piroe, Gelhardt, Darlow, Cooper, BumFluff and others and get in some hard working pros, who won't give up or spit their dummy out when the going gets tough. When the going got tough Ipswich stepped up to plate and grabbed the opportunity, Leeds didn't, that's down to Farke and a lot on the players you cannot ignore it. Nine players from last season are in this team, there's a coincidence to what happened last year and what happened in this, we need to let go of players, you cannot keep on hoping that things are going to change it won't. We have played the bottom 8 teams they are down there for a good reason the table does not lie! We have overachieved this season and we are not good enough. Farke out.
You really need to apply for the job AND buy the club then happy Leeds days incoming. Clearly you have all the answers. Armchair management without the consequences is a breeze.
@@LeedsDowninSouthAfrica Lol keep drinking the cool aid!
I completely agree with the analysis and I have seen every Leeds manager since 1956.
With the exception of comments most of the players in the last part - I do not think we need to get rid of any of those who won't have to go for financial reasons...
Man the last part could have been written by Warnock.
QPR 4 -Leeds0 who would ever have guessed. This is championship - Huddersfield 4 Ipswich 0, anythings possible. If not theres a playoff voodoo record to break among others weve done this season. If not another season of providing teams the opportunity of their cup final, winning more than losing, as opposed to fighting the corrupt non competitive top 6 biased Premier league. Happy days MOT
Actually I would- perhaps they had not caught up with the R's massive improvement under the new Coach.
Do i believe in miracles at Leeds? Yes, but only when we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Any time we've needed to do the opposite in crunch games the club have failed. Thats the Leeds I know. Of course id love that to change but i just cant see it given the amount of chances we've already blown to go up this season. All very Leedsy. Theres a real objective for the 49ers to tackle!
See you next season in the championship Leeds
One really poor result in a season doesn't define the team or the season as a whole. Even finishing 3rd and not going up via the playoffs also doesn't define the season. We've had a bloody good one. Especially after the start we had.
Leeds have only averaged 1 point in the last 8 matches. That's relegation form. They had been averaging more than 2 points before the International break. Ipswich got 15 points in the last 8 matches. Southampton got 17 points, Norwich 12 points and West Brom 9 points in that time. Leeds may have the best players, but are no longer the best TEAM going in to the play offs. Can Farke change things?
I'm exhausted of Leeds fans (especially the older ones) who completely define our whole club identity based on things that have happened in the past. I agree with Dan, we need to change, but we're never going to do that if every time we even get a sniff of an important game everyone goes "well thats us fucked then".
100% agree. Leeds supporter for 55 years now -the past does not define the next game
67 years since first game and I have never shared this Leedsy mentality. It may be better to think of our ability to get into play offs etc as a reflection of our support as distinct from team qualities as such. This season however I do think we had a promotion squad but I don't think the coach has used it to the maximum.
Great Title….😅
i want some hot chocolate now!
If Ipswich and Leicester hadn't had such ridiculous seasons, and if Leeds hadn't had such a bad start, then maybe there would have been more room for Farke to give people like Joseph more chances to play, and other players more chances to have a rest. But because Ipswich and Leicester have had the seasons that they've had, maybe Farke has felt that putting out his "best eleven" in every game was the only option.
The Ipswich manager has rotated all season. But he's just a smarter man than the likeable but somewhat ponderous man from the Ruhr (?).
@@jeffgleisner890 The Ipswich manager has had a points lead over Leeds for most of the season to allow him to do the rotation. And he's not had to deal with as much fan expectation, either. Ipswich could afford the odd draw here and there; Leeds were always chasing. As the boys say in the podcast, Leeds absolutely DID have chances to put Ipswich to bed, but they didn't happen until fairly late on, by which time there were injuries and a lot of knackered players. I think the chase took a lot out of Leeds, and that all goes back to last summer.
Looking forward to Tomorrow. Are you? COYB. We are massive! And cut the lucky crapp out.
Huddersfield beat Ipswich - Leeds 0 Southampton 0 😄
Message to Phil, do you know what happened to Sonny Perkins?
Not Phil but he went on loan and was sent back early. Farke doesn't like him so isn't gonna be used any time soon.
@@jacksimmons530He couldn’t be used even if Farke wanted him.
he was loaned out to Cher, poor bastard!
Bamford is unlikely to play again this season given his track record.If Farke sticks to Piroe then our season will end before Wembly!
Start of the season cost us as much as the end of the season has. Not easy playing catch up all year. Also remember during international break a big chunk of our squad who start for their countries were eliminated from euros. Thats a kick in the guts. Dont hold much blame towards our squad at all, just had some shit circumstances...just gotta support them now and hope...
Focus on where we were 7 games - when we were clear favourites with Leicester to go up - and what has gone wrong since. Early season difficulties were over with the Birmingham game. Our team was pretty much settled by then.
Sorry seven games ago..
We were 1/14 to go up. Ipswich were 5/6 with Hill's.
Bielsa used to say he wanted to be given a bonus when we losing and he solves the problem farkes been great when wining but when we are losing and answers were needed Farke has been found wanting he’s not had any answers like at QPR
Does Phil (or anyone) know how ‘financially incentivised’ these players are to get promoted? Are they offered any bonuses etc? I don’t think this is a choke, I think its self preservation. The players clearly don’t want it enough. The micro movements, desperation and focus isn’t even close to what it needs to be.
NO. Im Norwegian.
I believe we'll make it. I really do. Ipswich I mean.
The QPR manager is a class above Farke.!
Ffs you've killed our chances now Hay. Look at the lasy two titles, he buggered them up and now you do this.... 😂
Predicted Leeds 0 - 3 Southampton
Wigany wigany whack
Nope
Daniel Farke wants Southampton to end leeds utd misery
Huddersfield will let Ipswich win. They care more about us failing than themselves succeeding, plus they’re down anyway.
Are you all wearing black to signify the death of the season?
Bad example is letting bamford on the pitch he misses far too many chances
YAWN
A miracle is something that seems impossible but happens anyway. Griffin from men in black. Come on Huddersfield. 🤍💛💙