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  • čas přidán 14. 12. 2023
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    Higher mortgage rates should be expected to depress the housing market, and the US has just seen one of the steepest rate increases in history.
    Would-be homebuyers are facing massive sticker shock, with measures of affordability worsening at the fastest pace on record. The US real estate market has frozen up with the volume of new sales slowing at a faster pace than even during the aftermath of the global financial crisis.
    Does this mean that home prices are about to collapse? Will we see a repeat of the Global Financial Crisis of 2007-2008?
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    Corrections:
    1) A citation to the New York Times Piece on the history of the 30 Year Mortgage was left out of the video Here is the link: www.nytimes.com/2023/11/19/bu... . Thanks @aidanrushton5472
    2) Charts of Homebuilder Confidence and Price to Rent Ratio which were shown on screen are the same graph but with different titles - Thanks @KMbuilt for letting me know. The Wells Fargo Homebuilder Confidence chart was shown twice by mistake. Here is a link to the Price to Rent ratio chart. www.statista.com/statistics/5... A longer series can be found on the OECD website but is behind a paywall.
    3) A Viewer requested a link to the James Mackintosh article I mentioned on how changes in interest rates have affected the value of mortgages. Here is the link: www.wsj.com/finance/investing... . Thanks @tomwz5726

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  • @PBoyle
    @PBoyle  Před 5 měsíci +40

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    • @georgedoolittle7574
      @georgedoolittle7574 Před 5 měsíci

      Something about Hungary having mortgages priced in Swiss Francs?

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      @ronswanson1410 Před 5 měsíci +1

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      @shephusted2714 Před 5 měsíci

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  • @DorathyJoy
    @DorathyJoy Před měsícem +734

    Great video! For 2024, it’s hard to nail down specific predictions for the housing market is because it’s not yet clear how quickly or how much the Federal Reserve can bring down inflation and borrowing costs without tanking buyer demand for everything from homes to cars.

    • @SandraDave.
      @SandraDave. Před měsícem +3

      I suggest you offset your real estate and get into stocks, A recession as bad it can be, provides good buying opportunities in the markets if you’re careful and it can also create volatility giving great short time buy and sell opportunities too. This is not financial advise but get buying, cash isn’t king at all in this time!

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  • @bart_fox_hero2863
    @bart_fox_hero2863 Před 5 měsíci +698

    I panic purchased my first home in late 2020. 30 year fixed rate VA backed mortgage at 2.75%… I feel like I got off the bus at the last stop before it went off a cliff

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci +39

      Best time to do it.

    • @moviemusicmash4899
      @moviemusicmash4899 Před 5 měsíci +27

      If you panic purchased, that means you OVERPAID for a home.
      Why do you think you missed the cliff??
      It sounds like you fell right off.

    • @personzorz
      @personzorz Před 5 měsíci

      I disagree ​@@moviemusicmash4899

    • @xiphoid2011
      @xiphoid2011 Před 5 měsíci +25

      That's actually fortune smiling on you my friend. My wife and I got 3.25% fixed in 2015, possibly one of the best deal we got. Just live in our house, and smile at what Zillow say our house is worth. We don't plan to sell, we like our house. It's just feels good to get a good deal. :)

    • @rathelmmc3194
      @rathelmmc3194 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@xiphoid2011 Well hopefully you don't start or expand your family, or find some other reason you need to move. This market is brutal.

  • @eoghancallaghy2634
    @eoghancallaghy2634 Před 5 měsíci +69

    Before 2008 I thought i would never own a home. Than the crash happened and i bought one for $85000. It is now worth $350000. While that benefits me personally, something is not right. The only way young families can afford a home now is to wait for another crash. This is not sustainable.

    • @SigFigNewton
      @SigFigNewton Před 5 měsíci +2

      If it truly is unsustainable, prices will fall. Will be interesting to see how much of the country will see further price drops

    • @deaddevil7
      @deaddevil7 Před 5 měsíci +2

      That is exactly my point: millions of people complain about housing prices at the same time planning to use their future house as an investment that beats inflation. Like....bruh, you are part of the problem.

    • @SigFigNewton
      @SigFigNewton Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@deaddevil7 house prices won’t be beating inflation
      Each year that home prices rise more than incomes, the portion of incomes that gets spent on housing gets closer to 100%. It’s very clearly not a sustainable trend, and really only went on for as long as it did because interest rates were basically falling for 40 years. Expecting home prices to outpace inflation going forward is foolish

    • @deaddevil7
      @deaddevil7 Před 5 měsíci

      @@SigFigNewton what is your reasoning to state that house prices didn't increase more than inflation? Are you saying that because CPI formula includes housing and, as such, if the housing price index increases, CPI will increase proportionally?

    • @SigFigNewton
      @SigFigNewton Před 5 měsíci

      @@deaddevil7 I’m saying that they DID increase more than inflation and that in the future they are extremely unlikely to increase more than inflation.
      It’s mathematical fact that if housing costs increase more than incomes, a larger portion of incomes gets spent on merely being housed, and that if housing costs always increase faster than incomes, even if only by a tiny amount, then as time approaches infinity, the portion of incomes spent on housing approaches 100%. Taking it out that far in time highlights that it’s not sustainable for housing costs to increase faster than incomes. Simply not possible for it to continue and continue and continue. Stating fact.
      Where it gets cloudier is when I replace “housing costs” with “home prices” and especially when I replace “incomes” with “inflation.” Housing costs could conceivably increase faster than incomes forever without increasing faster than inflation, but that requires incomes to increase faster than inflation. Which is its own unsustainable thing. Incomes do outpace inflation occasionally, but we’re an economy that is like 75% services only 25% goods, and in much of the service sector prices are determined largely by what service workers are paid. Incomes and inflation tend to closely align

  • @UnbornApple
    @UnbornApple Před 5 měsíci +585

    I didn’t even particularly want to be a home owner, but in 2019 I knew my rent that was way below market rate wouldn’t stay that way, and I thought I could scrounge up a down payment and take advantage of low interest rates and get a house. So January 2020 I closed on my house. Then the pandemic happened. Prices sky rocketed, then interest rates skyrocketed. And now I’m probably gonna live here forever with my 3% interest rate.

    • @Soldknight324
      @Soldknight324 Před 5 měsíci +75

      Good timing

    • @lockedinracinglir5725
      @lockedinracinglir5725 Před 5 měsíci +69

      Same I refinanced in 2019 and went to a 15 yr fixed @ 2.25%. For about 200 dollars more a month I eliminatied pmi and 115k in interest. 🙏

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Před 5 měsíci +46

      3% is not even low. Here in Netherlands many people have interest levels around 1% with 30 year fixed rates. AND we can transfer our mortgages so we are not stuck at all.

    • @wolfumz
      @wolfumz Před 5 měsíci +78

      Its a little weird reading about how the market is so unequal right now. If you're buying, moving, or renting, you're totally screwed. But if you bought in, your house has made you hundreds of thousands of dollars in paper wealth, all while you do nothing other than pay the mortgage. My wife and I really struggled to buy in 2016 in San Diego... but the valuation now has almost doubled. It's insane
      I was just thinking about this when I was listening to my boomer family member who sold her home (and kept a rental property) in San Diego this year. She moved near her grandkids in Plano, TX. She whines all the time about California, but IMO, California was very good to her... her exploding property assets made her 1.5 million dollars while she slept, just in selling the house. Not even going to get to the rent she's collecting from her tenant in biotech.
      But man, you would think Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden personally stole from her, the way she complains. And she's not alone in her opinion. In her view she's somehow been jilted by a bad economy, or federal incompetence. I don't understand it. I don't get how people are looking at this.

    • @UnbornApple
      @UnbornApple Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@wolfumz doesn’t CA have some law that basically freezes your property taxes, so long time residents are barely paying any taxes?

  • @Kermitable
    @Kermitable Před 5 měsíci +35

    yeah ive read this nyc article too.

  • @q45ij54q
    @q45ij54q Před 5 měsíci +10

    Patrick, you didn't mention Wall Street investment firms like Blackrock who have bought up large swaths of houses to rent them out. This has contributed to the lack of supply in the market. What we need is legislation to prevent firms with billions in capital from buying up houses and leaving nothing for individual buyers. But it's unlikely to happen due to congressional lobbying.
    Also, prices are not falling much across the country as a whole, but many markets in the south and west have already seen significant price declines. This will continue if the Fed doesn't cut rates.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      As a percentage basis of residential housing it's an insignificant factor.

  • @revview5594
    @revview5594 Před 5 měsíci +88

    I field frequent calls from head hunters and companies offering "relocation benefits." As that would entail a sell, move, and purchase or rent, I just stop 'em cold and tell them unless you can cover all-in actual costs plus the rate spread then forget it. Amazing how they then change their tune and offer remote ending up being a possibility. I don't regard lack of mobility being an impediment.

    • @zwatwashdc
      @zwatwashdc Před 5 měsíci +1

      What line of work?😊

    • @McVaio
      @McVaio Před 5 měsíci +2

      I rent out my own home while working abroad. Works well.

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@zwatwashdche's a coder

    • @revview5594
      @revview5594 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ironmantooltime nope

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci

      @@revview5594 you work in IT though right

  • @SkySong6161
    @SkySong6161 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I really wish I saw two things in this: the problem of ghost houses, the fact that private markets can't fix the public problems that they've caused, and the fact that the fed can *only* affect interest rates, which is why raising them merely slowed the price growth problem and caused entirely different ones.
    Ghost houses (or buy-and-leave) is a problem in every housing market, although to what severity depends on the popularity of the location. It's when a house is bought as an investment and *nothing else.* It's not a vacation home, or an airbnb, or a long term rental, or undergoing renovation, or condemned and thus unfit for habitation, or empty plots of undeveloped land. The buyer leaves the home sitting completely empty, and intends to leave it that way until they want or need to sell it. I'm in FL where this is especially egregious - a state wide average of 12% of ghost housing, with certain major metro areas (Tampa, Miami, and Orlando as well as their surrounding areas) having ghost housing as high as 20%. A common salespitch I heard in Tampa when I was trying to buy back in 2019 was that I wouldn't have to worry about noisy neighbors - the entire floor or block were company owned investment properties that nobody was expected to ever live in. Up to 20% of all housing in a city, *empty* with ever increasing homelessness and affordability, as former public parks transform into homeless camps nearly overnight.
    The private market has also decided "you'll own nothing and be happy," as whatever housing *is* being built is for-rent only or mcmansions so far outside the reach of the income of the normal (not average, *normal*) income that of course the only purpose of these dwellings is to become ghost housing, air bnbs, or 6k rentals being split by six roommates. Unfortunately, it's gotten so bad that we must turn to (ick) government funded and built housing, *not* private developers. I'm not thrilled with this notion, given how egregiously corrupt and fascist the US has become (and is expected to get worse), but short of burning everything down and starting over from scratch, it's the least-worst option on the table atm.
    I'm frankly sick to death about hearing about how the fed is failing to fix housing prices. The fed can only fix interest rates. *Everything else,* from ghost houses to NIMBYs and airbnb, is outside of the Fed's control. They have exactly one tool in their toolbox, and that's interest rates. Interest rate hikes aren't going to fix bad land use laws, corporate greed, or the corruption that's eating us alive.

  • @aidanrushton5472
    @aidanrushton5472 Před 5 měsíci +28

    you should add a 'lil citation to Ben Casselman's article, since he did some extensive research. Super informative video!

  • @hugokatz
    @hugokatz Před 5 měsíci +133

    90% of all accidents happen at home. Yet most people stubbornly insist upon living there.

    • @mirceskiandrej
      @mirceskiandrej Před 5 měsíci +18

      If you live in the streets, 100% of the accidents happen at home 😉

    • @IncredibleMet
      @IncredibleMet Před 5 měsíci +19

      100% of divorces start with marriage yet some people stubbornly insist of getting married.
      What can I say, humans are crazy!

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      I know, makes no sense, but people keep doing it.

    • @wagadoogy420
      @wagadoogy420 Před 5 měsíci

      such foolishness!

    • @SigFigNewton
      @SigFigNewton Před 5 měsíci

      100% of money spent on housing isn’t spent by that consumer at local small businesses.
      Yet people pretend that high housing costs aren’t terrible for the economy.

  • @DirkLondon
    @DirkLondon Před 5 měsíci +5

    Same in Europe. ‘Social scissors’ opening wider, so the only ones buying are elderly people up/downgrading and those who inherited a big chunk of the deposit

  • @hulkingmass
    @hulkingmass Před 5 měsíci +19

    Time to go to the comments to see middle-aged people who think they are special laugh at 20 year olds for “timing the market wrong”

    • @imooumoo4
      @imooumoo4 Před dnem

      Yeah, it's pretty bad in comment sections like this

  • @birkobird
    @birkobird Před 5 měsíci +20

    Here in New South Wales it feels a bit more like 2008. A combination of terrible planning, rising numbers of wealthy immigrants, and government corruption has led to the overwhelming majority of homes that are build being priced in the 1-2 million range from the jump, and the entire city is becoming unaffordable as it follows the prices. Roughly a third of Australian homes are investment properties (i.e. the person who owns them already owned a house when they bought it) for renting, yet rent is still at an all time high basically everywhere. It has left young people like me praying for either radical market intervention (like rent control or placing legal limits on the number of properties a single entity can own) or some kind of housing crash. Problem with the second one, of course, is that we’ll be the ones ripped apart most by the wider economic consequences of any such crash.

  • @david12eebi
    @david12eebi Před 5 měsíci +39

    My wife and I graduated from college as a nurse and electrical engineer within the last two years and even as a household with substantial double income, we are unable to afford a decent, single family home like we want. We even have very little debt on a single car that will be paid off within the next few months and our lifestyle expenditures are relatively low as well.
    We were just a couple years too late to the market and now fear that we may never afford a home that we will be happy with. We are currently renting an apartment for the next year or so in hopes of improving conditions but after that we may just suck it up and buy an absurdly overpriced home and deal with it. It's depressing to see what we would have been able to afford a couple years ago that now are solidly out of our price range.

    • @danielclawson2099
      @danielclawson2099 Před 5 měsíci +17

      I was in a similar situation to yours 17 years ago: recent graduate, good income, low debt, unable to afford housing. Prices were rising much faster than my wage ever could. I thought I would never be able to afford it.
      Eventually the market turned. My income stayed stable, prices went down. It will get better.
      A big plus for you two: nursing and EE are very stable, in addition to being good income.
      A more affordable time will come. But probably not in a year. Balance your patience vs. your needs. Renting is (relatively) cheap. Save the difference. Invest, increase retirement contributions, or use the savings to increase your down payment, lowering your monthly payment.
      Either way, you've got a lot of time ahead to avoid tying yourself to an expensive asset that will probably lose value in a few years. That is a worse situation than renting. I've watched it destroy people.

    • @bwvl
      @bwvl Před 5 měsíci +6

      Never is a long time. I'm hopeful that the next few years will see improvements for young buyers like you. I recall when my mortgage was under water for 5 years, I thought I was stuck forever in my house. But it didn't end up being forever.

    • @1MinuteFlipDoc
      @1MinuteFlipDoc Před 5 měsíci

      move in with family (one of your parents) and save - save - save! Renting is an absolute waste of money.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Just about everyone was just a few years too late to have gotten a much better deal, but you go ahead anyway...and after a few years others are wishing they had got the deal you did.

    • @dsj9831
      @dsj9831 Před 5 měsíci

      Best sensible and factul commment in a while.​@@danielclawson2099

  • @priola7587
    @priola7587 Před 5 měsíci +60

    In 2012, there were five or six houses on my street in foreclosure sitting vacant for about the 2nd or 3rd year in a row, and priced near 130k, down 70k from 2009. I just don’t think 2012 is a useful comparison to today as described. This just jumped our at me because I still have PTSD from having my mortgage under water from 2009 to 2018. Nine years under water. Talk about frozen. Also, as a retiree, I’m incentivized to keep my home and its 3.3% interest rate, in part, because there is nothing to downsize to. Condos come with ever inflating HOA dues and no one is building small affordable units. I am now very grateful for my 30 year fixed loan/payment. God bless the young folks looking to buy.

    • @priola7587
      @priola7587 Před 5 měsíci

      @@basilmagnanimous7011 Basil, your assumptions about what I am looking for are products of your mind, not mine. “People like you”? Having my first and only home drop nearly 35% below what I owed on it, a year after I bought it, actually was a lot like the car market. It’s a very modest home in a working class community, and I could barely afford it. It shook me up because it was the biggest financial commitment I’d ever made. Im mostly interested in stability, and housing security, not making inflated profits. Between land cost, building materials, skilled labor and regulatory requirements, taxes, and yes, infrastructure contributions that are factored into the permits, we won’t likely be seeing homes around this part of the U.S. selling for anything near 30k. I’m not crying about my 9 yo Subaru with 139k miles, by the way. It’s paid for and will likely last another 5-10 years. No tears. Laughter. I love that car.

    • @dismurrart6648
      @dismurrart6648 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah my partner and I are in our early and mid thirties. We're trying to buy but house prices are outrageous near me. Even if I go a town over, the taxes are so high that I might as well buy in my expensive town

    • @priola7587
      @priola7587 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @dismurrart6648 Best wishes to you and hopefully you will have an opportunity at some point.

    • @shane_rm1025
      @shane_rm1025 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Zoning and other "local control" measures have made building small units either unprofitable or outright illegal

    • @crispi101
      @crispi101 Před 4 měsíci

      I see it more like this: 2009 is more like 2024 and probably 2027 will be more likely 2012...

  • @cheeseman417
    @cheeseman417 Před 5 měsíci +9

    The sweet spot of mortgages is somewhere around 4.50%, because when it dropped to 2.75, homes were snapped up within a day, and obviously above 5 there's a smaller buyer pool.

  • @brianborkowski5977
    @brianborkowski5977 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Hello Professor Boyle. An important point to add: due to low interest rates, many owners who moved have kept their prior home and coveted them to rentals or air BNBs, with rentals being by far the most likely. Then they buy a home at their new location, further reducing inventory. You said this but I wanted to be clear what most people are doing with their homes when they move. They usually make twice the income on rent versus mortgage payments so it's a "no brainer." This is a very difficult problem that I don't see resolving unless rents drop or more inventory comes online and home owners can't find renters.

  • @tomwz5726
    @tomwz5726 Před 5 měsíci +42

    Could you please provide me with the title or link to James Mackintosh's article? 🤔

    • @Kahlnen
      @Kahlnen Před 5 měsíci

      What do you mean?

    • @toriitoraa
      @toriitoraa Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@KahlnenThey want to be provided with the title or link to James Mackintosh's article.

    • @Kahlnen
      @Kahlnen Před 5 měsíci

      @@toriitoraa who's James mackintosh???

    • @FluxMD
      @FluxMD Před 3 měsíci +1

      Good chance you'll get pay walled

    • @grmpf
      @grmpf Před 19 dny

      @@toriitoraa lol I love this kind of "being a lil sh*t" type reply.

  • @MCPicoli
    @MCPicoli Před 4 měsíci +2

    In Brazil the standard financing is fixed rate, 30 years for residential properties and has been this way for the last decades.

  • @will5286
    @will5286 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Why doesn’t anybody talk about the huge impact that investor buy up of houses during the “financial crisis” which now controls huge swathes of homes and often dominating whole neighborhoods

  • @Gnomezonbacon
    @Gnomezonbacon Před 5 měsíci +156

    This house price enrages me. I was right about to be able to buy a house.

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi Před 5 měsíci +38

      they don't want you owning a home, the want renters

    • @nlabanok
      @nlabanok Před 5 měsíci +51

      ​@@stachowi"They"...who TF is "they"?

    • @TapoutT
      @TapoutT Před 5 měsíci

      Yep I'm traveling and screwing a hot ukranian girl now instead why? Because the crash is gonna get worse I might as well have fun before the collapse.

    • @calvin6429
      @calvin6429 Před 5 měsíci +1

      just do it

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi Před 5 měsíci

      globalists who don't want you consuming the earths resources@@nlabanok

  • @carlgarrett5142
    @carlgarrett5142 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Patrick has missed the fact that 30 year fixed mortgages are made possible by pooling these loans and converting them into 30 year fixed bonds. That's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's primary function. Mortgage rates do tend to rise and fall along with treasury bond performance, but that is more coincidental, as they are actually based on the rise and fall of mortgage bond prices.

    • @trappart9209
      @trappart9209 Před 3 měsíci

      What exactly this fact changes in the full picture? Curious

  • @bluulock9538
    @bluulock9538 Před 5 měsíci +117

    The one thing that I think should’ve been mentioned is how many of the most in-demand markets have had prices pushed sky high due to zoning laws which made it impossible for supply to rise to meet demand, and are now starting to see up zoning beginning or on the horizon as the YIMBY movement has started to gain ground. I would also be interested in how it might play out if interest rates stay, if not as high as right now, at least significantly above the historically anomalous near-zero rates of the 2010s. The market can’t stay frozen forever.

    • @tylermc11795
      @tylermc11795 Před 5 měsíci +4

      30 year Fixed rates are going to make the housing crisis worse in the US. It’s not only zoning laws that halt construction. When rates shoot up, construction also collapses

    • @supersleepygrumpybear
      @supersleepygrumpybear Před 5 měsíci +5

      Or how they built/ are building apartments in most downtown areas but still expecting $2'000-$3'000 / month in rent. They're built using cheap wood, so you can hear your neighbors. And most downtowns are probably some of the worst places to live right now...

    • @liveoak227
      @liveoak227 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@supersleepygrumpybear imagine what those buildings will look like a few decades from now. It's a shame how many brick and masonry buildings were demolished to make way for these shoddy eyesores

    • @ariellubonja7856
      @ariellubonja7856 Před 5 měsíci

      This is the real reason. Housing construction has outpaced demand for decades now

    • @dismurrart6648
      @dismurrart6648 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Yeah I live in the Midwest. The city I live in, houses average about 500k. Every town around us is 200k cheaper but the towns up the tax so you end up paying the same.
      With 40k down, my partner and I can afford a house that's about 400k. We can't even afford the other towns because we'd need an extra grand a month.
      What's frustrating is everything being built across the state seems to only be luxury.
      You'd think everyone expects to sell to 1%ers

  • @marioskoutras6583
    @marioskoutras6583 Před 5 měsíci +86

    Here in Greece at least, prices went up when foreigners bought dozens of apartments to transform them into short term rentals for the airbnb platform. Prices went through the roof, foreigners don't want to buy anymore, simple logic. I know a group of people who right now are selling some of their apartments for outrageous prices. We're talking 150k-200k for a 70's, 80-100 square meters apartment, it's just crazy. Ads are online for over a year so far with no interest from any buyers and they don't want to accept the fact that nobody buys them, their not in a hurry to sell them either. Other people see these ads and they think that these are the current prices. There is a big difference between what people ask and what they really get. Somebody has to put an end to this nonsense.

    • @olfrud
      @olfrud Před 5 měsíci +4

      same here in austria. a lot of russians and chinese buy up everything lol

    • @SumanutiLudjak
      @SumanutiLudjak Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@fxsrider You can't know that. Why would it correct and what event is he waiting out for? Nothing special about Greece, in entire southern Europe properties are hard to afford compared to local income, especially the tourist destinations.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Před 5 měsíci +2

      Same in my country, the government sold our country for tourism with golden visas,tax breaks for digital nomad and retirees although is going away now, building of luxury housing,airbnb´s and hotels popping up in every corner on the lower classs level they are bringing a lot of migrants without enough available housing because of the financial crisis making rents to rise even away from metro or turisty areas.

    • @poisonedlava
      @poisonedlava Před 5 měsíci

      Same thing happened in Vancouver

    • @dariadari3370
      @dariadari3370 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@olfrudfunny but people from Austria on the other hand buy up everything in Czech republic boosting prices and screwing local market for locals. Pretty sad. Also I hope governments will manage problems with Airbnb.

  • @richardcoughlin8931
    @richardcoughlin8931 Před 5 měsíci +53

    I’ve bought and sold six houses over a 45 year period. My first mortgage in 1978 was 13%. My current mortgage is 3%. Both of these extremes were the product of extraordinary economic circumstances. In the intervening years my typical mortgage rate was around 7%. So the current rate does not surprise me at all - and fortunately I don’t have to move. But it presents a real dilemma for my daughter who bought her first home six years ago and refinanced at some point to 3%. She has a growing family and wants to move to a larger house but going from 3% to 7% presents a formidable obstacle. Around here the existing 3% mortgages are called golden handcuffs which is another metaphorical way of describing a frozen market,

    • @HetkiPieni
      @HetkiPieni Před 5 měsíci +13

      13% interest rates weren't as bad as people make them out to be. Pay rises used to be a lot higher for most people and the prices of houses were a lot lower, so the real interest rate that you used to pay wasn't as high as it is today.
      As an example, if you have a 400000€ house and pay a fixed 10% interest rate for 20 years, the actual price of the appartment/loan is 930000€. Those old school interest rates aren't feasible anymore

    • @stefnirk
      @stefnirk Před 5 měsíci +9

      High rates and low prices used to be the norm for a long time. As interest rates went down, we got low rates but high prices, which was great for those who got in early.
      We are now looking at high rates and high prices; something has to give. But all in all, high rates and low prices are always better because people can pay down the mortgage, another word for a tax-free, high-yield savings account.

    • @bdegrds
      @bdegrds Před 5 měsíci

      ​@THEGAMERpro5 no wages were alot less back then, household items were more expensive than today as well. People were willing to work alot harder back then, that's why they could afford a house. 50-60 hour work weeks were normal.

    • @SigFigNewton
      @SigFigNewton Před 5 měsíci +6

      Affordability levels and interest rate levels are very different things.
      In the early 80s when rates were 14%, homes were more affordable than they are now at 7% rates.
      And it isn’t only because the ratio of median home price to median earnings was so much lower back then. It’s also because other essentials were cheaper relative to incomes. Savings rates are much lower now than in the early 1980s. Saving for a down payment is now pretty much not an option for a larger portion of the population. People are like nah, I’d rather have health insurance.

    • @richardcoughlin8931
      @richardcoughlin8931 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@SigFigNewton Good point. I should mention that the house I bought in 1978 with a 13% mortgage cost me $33,000 ($155,000 in current dollars.) The same house today in a trendy Southwest city is on the order of $450,000. (2Br, 1 bath, ~1000 sq ft).

  • @frmcf
    @frmcf Před 5 měsíci +27

    As a point of order, 30-year fixed-rate mortgages are also very common in Spain. 73% of new mortgages are fixed-rate, and here that means fixed for the entire period of the loan, which can usually be up to 30 years.

    • @jadegrniz
      @jadegrniz Před 5 měsíci +2

      Same in France. My French cousin actually told me he thought Americans often choose ARMs and he was surprised 30yr fixed is the standard

  • @kevinpowers2959
    @kevinpowers2959 Před 5 měsíci +38

    Its like I'm stuck on a treadmill. My income has risen significantly since I graduated in 2019 but housing has gotten harder to afford every day since then. Any career progress is out-paced by the increase in house price/(un)affordability

    • @Lilliz91
      @Lilliz91 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Same.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci

      Liar. Your spending has outpaced your career

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Před 5 měsíci

      Time in the market vs timing the market. U just should have bought a house no matter what type back then. I did the same after i got my diploma in electrical engineering. After i got a job i directly bought whatever i could find and still profit from that while my salary increased. Now i just bought a new bigger house.

    • @pascualsmithvaldes9038
      @pascualsmithvaldes9038 Před 5 měsíci

      Yes, if only we all graduated like 10-15 years ago lol. Even 7 years ago lol. Unlucky us I guess
      @@HermanWillems

    • @stevenshorten6184
      @stevenshorten6184 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Look outside the US at this point. This country sucks now. Average homeowners think they're Warren Buffett. The good things about living here are quickly fading.

  • @chrism3790
    @chrism3790 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Sky high prices and interest rates. Tanking inventory. Record consumer debt. Companies laying off workers. People tapping into their retirements to survive. Soaring property taxes. High inflation.
    It feels like the room is full of gasoline and someone is about to light a match.

  • @jakedesnake97
    @jakedesnake97 Před 5 měsíci +169

    It's a messed up situation when so many people are unable to afford shelter, or are delaying or outright deciding not to start a family because of cost. Housing and child rearing are two of the most basic needs a society requires to thrive; how did we mess up this bad?

    • @xiphoid2011
      @xiphoid2011 Před 5 měsíci +45

      To be fair, US housing is still incredibly cheap by international standards. I find most Americans I know don't know how good they have it. I immigrated from Shanghai, China, where the average apartment cost 40x the average income. Having the good fortunate to study and then immigrate to the US, seeing the average income is 5x higher and the average house is only 4x the income, and don't have to study and work 60+ hours per week? It seems to me like every american is born with a winning lottery ticket in his/her mouth.

    • @CobaltLobster
      @CobaltLobster Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@xiphoid2011 You clearly don't live in New England.

    • @GuyIncognito764
      @GuyIncognito764 Před 5 měsíci

      ha, pretty clear they explained that. @@CobaltLobster

    • @chessco4516
      @chessco4516 Před 5 měsíci +32

      ​@@xiphoid2011 I'm not gonna argue with you. Its certainly better than most places in the world, however, it is getting worse and the average person is quickly getting priced out. It might get better in the future as the rock bottom interest rates are gone, but who knows. All I know is it looks really bad if you want to own property and your own home no matter where you live in the world. but yeah, that 40x ratio is batshit insane. I dont know how anyone in china can even think of leasing an apartment. Genuinely, congrats on getting out of there.

    • @lenerdenator
      @lenerdenator Před 5 měsíci +35

      @@xiphoid2011 Horrific policy in other places does not excuse worsening conditions in the United States. Many people are working multiple jobs, and many have massive student loan debts to pay off. It's beginning to impact the child-rearing practices of the country, and "deaths of despair" are increasing. People in early-middle age in China can unquestionably claim a better standard of living than their parents; their peers in the US have, as a generation, a decidedly worse standard of living than their parents at the same age.

  • @robertbeisert3315
    @robertbeisert3315 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Reminder that high prices are bad for everyone.
    Higher prices mean higher down payments, which puts them out of reach of many.
    Higher prices mean higher closing costs and other percentage selling fees.
    Higher prices mean higher taxes.
    And, finally, higher prices don't help the seller unless they plan to downsize. If your house is now worth a million dollars, but the house you want is also now a million dollars, you're out the percentages with no real benefit.

    • @tHebUm18
      @tHebUm18 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Maybe a little worse for all of us forever renters or people who've become homeless than all the people who saw the value of their home leap 50% in two years. I reckon those people who became surprise millionaires in 2 years are not fretting much about not being able to move. Also--they could easily sell and rent for awhile.

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci +2

      Lol literally no one cares but this is the single biggest thing fncking the economy 😂

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      Besides downsizing the owner may also be able to move to lower cost areas.

    • @deaddevil7
      @deaddevil7 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Maybe the population should either (1) stop complaining about high prices OR (2) stop looking at their houses as an investment to beat inflation. You can't complain about the prices while hoping to be on the winning side of asset appreciation. It is hypocritical.

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci +2

      Homes should not be an instrument of leveraged financial speculation: it's only going to end one way - resources will make their way up a pyramid. The transmission mechanism of wealth from the lower levels to the top needs to be slowed and reversed.

  • @MikeGaruccio
    @MikeGaruccio Před 5 měsíci +37

    I think there’s an argument that the home improvement market won’t take the same hit that some of the other sectors you mention are. People who would otherwise have been looking for a new house are going to be starting to consider renovating their existing homes instead, especially if this trend continues and people decide that it’s not worth the wait to move to get whatever they want out of a new home.

    • @MikeGaruccio
      @MikeGaruccio Před 5 měsíci

      @@basilmagnanimous7011 sure, or the owner would have before selling. But in either case that would be expected to be flat in terms of sales for the home improvement supplier.

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Před 5 měsíci +5

      In my country homeowners with more than one house are renovating it left and right to rent it, some are even investing in renovating theIr lapidated houses that they inherit from parents,grandparents ect, even in their primary residency a lot of them are doing improvements.

  • @MikeJones__Who
    @MikeJones__Who Před 5 měsíci +19

    For the past two to three years, furniture makers, realtors, constructors, etc. have been gouging consumers due to the pandemic and it was unsustainable. Im glad the market will eventually see a corrections

    • @MikeJones__Who
      @MikeJones__Who Před 5 měsíci

      @shreddy_mcgnar6359 I didn't even notice that. RH is ridiculous. As you said...I saw them sell a couch to someone for $15,000 when I saw something very similar for $5K.
      Crazy

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm Před 5 měsíci +1

      No one is forced,
      Control oneself ffs

  • @IWastemyMoney
    @IWastemyMoney Před 5 měsíci +146

    I am in the 22-30 year old range and I have been having a tremendously difficult time (as I'm sure others in my age range would agree) with affordability of property. House prices in my area have dropped a little bit but nowhere near affordable. I consider myself to have a fairly good salary at my age and to take on mortgage at current rate I'd still be spending more than half of my monthly income on a mortgage. I'm in an odd place where I have money saved but I'm a couple years too late unfortunately.

    • @dastron6939
      @dastron6939 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Yeah I’m also in this range. Know a lot of people also who are also in my industry (tech) we have money and savings but the mortgages are still just so unaffordable.
      (Edit: for reference. I’m in Ireland, I forget Patrick has a large non Irish audience)

    • @daren32909
      @daren32909 Před 5 měsíci +20

      Everything runs in cycles. Just keep saving and the market will crash. It might be another 5 years before this happens but it will happen. Always does.

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@daren32909The real estate market isn't like that. It's really only had one crash. Everything else has just been small corrections

    • @Ryanandboys
      @Ryanandboys Před 5 měsíci

      I am in very similar situation!

    • @bdegrds
      @bdegrds Před 5 měsíci

      Legal working age is 16, you should of been saving from then. If your current income is not sufficient then get a second job. This is how everyone bought a home. Your 20's_30's you should be working minimum 50 hours per week, I had constant 2 even 3 jobs going at that age, that's the real world and that has always been what it takes. There are plenty of affordable homes, just not your dream house that will look good on Instagram, buy something small and crappy, fix it up, sell it, make money, buy something a step up. Thats how everyone before you did it.

  • @appalachiabrauchfrau
    @appalachiabrauchfrau Před 5 měsíci +1019

    CZcams unsubbed me from you, weird. It's not like you're controversial, you're only the best source of rap news smh.

    • @codycast
      @codycast Před 5 měsíci +102

      Even if he was super controversial, it’s not up to CZcams to decide what you want to watch.

    • @caitlinelizabeth7808
      @caitlinelizabeth7808 Před 5 měsíci +8

      YT and Ray D are conspirators

    • @henrytep8884
      @henrytep8884 Před 5 měsíci +172

      Yt didn’t do it. Dude just fat fingered the sub button.

    • @zeissiez
      @zeissiez Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@codycast
      “No we don’t”, says The Algorithm with a wicked smile.

    • @Thornspyre81
      @Thornspyre81 Před 5 měsíci +14

      ​@@henrytep8884 I started thinking that same thing a few years ago when there were tons of people saying that YT unsubbed them

  • @dexterbunco4212
    @dexterbunco4212 Před 5 měsíci +10

    I just bought a house a month ago. Rate was 7.75%. Even though my income is 80% higher than when I bought a house in 2007, this home is only 50% more than my 2007 home. We weren’t able to get our dream home which would’ve been a new construction, instead we found a home in a more economically modest neighborhood. As high as everything is, we made the leap because we plan to refi later, we wanted something to build equity in, and even though the home and neighborhood isn’t our most desirable choice, it was comfortably affordable within our combined incomes. If we were a single income couple, this home would be cripplingly expensive.

    • @cryptowolf-zf3fs
      @cryptowolf-zf3fs Před 5 měsíci

      I had a house built in a white trash neighborhood in Texas in 2005. I paid off that mortgage early and sold that house for 100k more than I paid for it in 2021. Gentrification is a wonderful thing if your are willing to put up trashy neighbors and running off crackheads and slowly the area improves, home values go up.

  • @tommykaira7619
    @tommykaira7619 Před 5 měsíci +68

    My jaw DROPPED when he mentioned conservatorship and showed Britney Spears 💀. He’s with the pop culture! Subscribed.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's hard not to know celebrity bullshit. I knew about it because it came up in a LegalEagle episode

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip Před 5 měsíci +5

      Indeed impressive how he reports beyond rap news, most other rap news channels wouldn't mention Britney at all.

    • @ypey1
      @ypey1 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That one was on point 😂 i spat out my coffee

    • @coonhound_pharoah
      @coonhound_pharoah Před 5 měsíci +5

      Patrick's sense of humor is one of the best.

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 Před 5 měsíci +1

      This channel's primary focus is rap music news, actually.

  • @dizzolve
    @dizzolve Před 5 měsíci +12

    it may be frozen buy they sure keep calling my cell asking to buy my house as is ......... I keep telling em no thx

    • @razorswc
      @razorswc Před 5 měsíci +5

      I just tell them 10 million dollars and its yours. That usually ends the conversation, and I don't hear back from them.

    • @dizzolve
      @dizzolve Před 5 měsíci

      LOL I'll give it a go @@razorswc

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      Probably a lot are scams anyway.

  • @MichaelWilliamz
    @MichaelWilliamz Před 5 měsíci +4

    Well done! I really really enjoy and look forward to your videos. I’ve watched them all!

  • @BeastOfMetal1989
    @BeastOfMetal1989 Před 3 měsíci +2

    My mom looked into selling hers shortly after my dad died a few years ago, but with the interest from his final refinancing (in 2011) and the state of the house at the time, she was underwater on it. (This is why you should spend up front on maintenance over time - trying to "save in the short term" just causes a teetering pile.) She hasn't revisited the discussion since.

  • @stvWndrz
    @stvWndrz Před 5 měsíci +5

    No idea how I came across your channel, but thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks.

  • @JesseBeahm
    @JesseBeahm Před 5 měsíci +73

    The thing about assumable loans is its hard to actually pull off for many reasons. A few would be, it takes real corporation from the seller, the other reason is most homes have a lot of equity in them, so the buyer would need to somehow find a way to bridge the gap between what's left on the assumable loan and the equity, in other words they usually need to come up with a bunch of cash they don't have.

    • @dougnyc8324
      @dougnyc8324 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Spot on, I came to comment on this point. While it happens, it happens rarely primarily for this reason. The home seller will also be buying their next home and will be assuming a much higher payment - while they might be able to sell their home for a bit more, if they had a mortgage rate at the average of 3.5%, it would have to be north of 15% more to "buy down" a new 7% rate to 3.5%. I don't see this moving the needle in any meaningful way on home sales.

    • @alhollywood6486
      @alhollywood6486 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Considering how valuable these 3% FHA assumable loans are now, it would add so much value to the house that any appraisal would come up woefully short, since appraisers do not factor that into the price.

    • @sparksmcgee6641
      @sparksmcgee6641 Před 5 měsíci +2

      It takes two loans. A second to cover the equity.

    • @onefailatatime
      @onefailatatime Před 5 měsíci +1

      Not necessarily some lenders will allow you to take out a heloc if there is enough equity from the purchase price to qualify.

    • @mauihomebuyers
      @mauihomebuyers Před 5 měsíci

      Good points. And like others mentioned, you could use a second mortgage or heloc to cover the gap. But another issue is the timeline. We negotiated to purchase a condo with 287k out of the 395k being an assumable loan. But we ended up renegotiating and paying cash bc the lender estimated that it could take 3-6 months for them to complete the transfer 🤯 and the seller was distressed and needed us to close in 15 days. I was bummed bc I’ve always wanted to assume a loan; But it really didn’t matter much since we need up flipping the condo anyway.

  • @kalef1234
    @kalef1234 Před 5 měsíci +7

    What was the point of raising rates if they're just going to lower them next year and prices will just continue to climb that's so stupid

    • @thosoz3431
      @thosoz3431 Před 5 měsíci

      You can use the same sort of 'logic' with a pan of water on the stove.
      It doesn't work there either.

    • @lolllama1504
      @lolllama1504 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thosoz3431you mean a pot? XD who puttin water in a pan

    • @weird-guy
      @weird-guy Před 5 měsíci

      The point is to decrease the money in circulation and it the inflation target of 2%, if you dont know inflation is calculation against the same time last year, prices will not go down a lot apart from some commodities.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      The government printed too much money, so your money is worth less. Think of it as a hidden tax increase.

  • @danielc7877
    @danielc7877 Před 5 měsíci

    Without a doubt my favourite CZcams channel, great content!

  • @andreidoanca4262
    @andreidoanca4262 Před 5 měsíci

    top shelf work Patrick! thanks

  • @WhatsBliss
    @WhatsBliss Před 5 měsíci +4

    We were looking to buy earlier in the year, but it went from “tight” to “unfeasible” in July. We were ready to put down 10% (which is high for first time home buyers) but the payments would have killed us. We actually had an offer accepted and then had such immense buyers remorse we backed out before putting down earnest money. Given that we currently pay below market rent for our area, it seemed best to hunker down and save, rather than get locked into a mortgage at double our current rent. Though it’s tight living space in our 800sqft apartment, so we have been looking into renting a house, even though my partner really had his heart set on home ownership as our next move.

  • @richardeastman9846
    @richardeastman9846 Před 5 měsíci +2

    An alternative to the low-inventory theory of why home prices stay high is while each income bracket is now the demand for the houses that lower brackets bought in the past there is now also much greater demand for housing as rental properties by those selling their IOUs to the FED and putting the money elsewhere, for example the stock market and idle cash balances also rise, but clezrly in rental acquisition.

  • @oneworldchua5293
    @oneworldchua5293 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video in the housing market enjoyed your analysis very much

  • @resipsaloquitur13
    @resipsaloquitur13 Před 5 měsíci

    I think you nailed it down pretty good as usual, Pat. Youre a pretty smart chap.

  • @matthewbaker1157
    @matthewbaker1157 Před 5 měsíci +11

    A million dollars for a house has all of a sudden become commonplace in the current market. It's definitely frozen, but eventually the ice thaws.

    • @stevenshorten6184
      @stevenshorten6184 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Not really much solace to the millions of people who couldn't have a home or form a family during the freeze.

    • @davidrubenstein3489
      @davidrubenstein3489 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Affordability will have to improve eventually. But my theory is that’s going to happen slowly by the nominal prices of homes remaining relatively unchanged for a long time.
      Despite high prices and high rates, the people now are well qualified and won’t be forced to sell.

  • @aL3891_
    @aL3891_ Před 5 měsíci +8

    Sweden here, my dad sold his apartment recently and it certainly was a buyers market, he's had it for 40 years with no major renovations so he was still happy with the price he got, but his neighbor who was also selling was having a much harder time..
    loans here are also much more expensive but here you usually lock your rate from 3 months to 5 or maybe 10 years. My rate used to be at around 1% a few years ago but is now sitting at 5.6%

    • @jadegrniz
      @jadegrniz Před 5 měsíci

      That sounds awful. I bought my house in the US with a 3% interest rate and if it was adjustable, my payment would have gone up by 20% by now. Utilities have also become more expensive. My income did not increase by 20%, that's for sure

    • @jj4791
      @jj4791 Před 5 měsíci

      5.6% is still very good for today. Some in the US are lock is down in the high-3% range from five years ago. 3% interest is effectively zero interest due to inflation.
      Generally, Adjustable Rate Mortgages are considered undesirable in US. Most people opt for 30-year fixed rate. As the years ago on, it gets much easier to make the payment due to inflation/high pay at the end of your career. Though almost everyone trades up along the way, because there is no income tax on capital gains when selling/buying real estate, as long as the next property cost more than you sell the previous for.

  • @dennishillman3502
    @dennishillman3502 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Thanks!

  • @patrickmcgowan7826
    @patrickmcgowan7826 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great work, Patrick.

  • @juanhaver6584
    @juanhaver6584 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Real estate was about to start get some correction then Santa Powell announced his elves are getting the printers ready again

    • @zwatwashdc
      @zwatwashdc Před 5 měsíci +1

      It could be that lower rate expectations actually cool the housing market even more as any potential thought of capitulation changes to a wait for lower rates approach. We need some desperate sellers, though, to get the ball rolling.

    • @juanhaver6584
      @juanhaver6584 Před 5 měsíci

      @zwatwashdc ya true its a tricky dynamic at the same time it could make even more investors scared of holding dollars and again move even more investors into real estate again

    • @zwatwashdc
      @zwatwashdc Před 5 měsíci

      @@juanhaver6584 There is still some decent safe yield out there. I imagine that unless you pay cash or are very desperate, the play is to wait on purchase. The risk reward right now is terrible. At 7% mortgage rates real rates are higher than inflation. Not too many real estate deals look tasty at that price. At least that is how I see it….

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      Unlikely to see substantial "correction" short of a major depression or zombie apocalypse. A lot of wishful thinking.

    • @junfour
      @junfour Před 5 měsíci

      They say deflation is a positive feedback loop, but I wonder what will happen when people realize that the central bank will simply not allow asset prices to go down. Logically there should be a race to get rid of cash, which means hyperinflation loop de loop.

  • @strigiformsW
    @strigiformsW Před 5 měsíci +12

    Would love a video on the Canadian real estate crisis. I'm thinking about leaving the country over it.

    • @johnstirling6597
      @johnstirling6597 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Australia says, "hold my beer".

    • @harryireland1935
      @harryireland1935 Před 5 měsíci

      @@johnstirling6597 It's the result of a global takeover by central banks. Ask yourself, who owns the central banks and who benefits from blowing assetbubbles and THEN raise interestrates.
      The entirety of Western Europe's residential propertymarket is completely frozen.
      Canada and Australia are examples of utter insanity. Which probably has something to do with your insane 'leaders'.
      And of course, if you CAN leave, just leave. There's still places in the world where you can buy a mansion for the price of a new car.
      But if you do that, don't do it impulsively. Travel around, go see places, drive around, talk to people.
      The grass certainly isn't greener everywhere....but most places would be an improvement over the scorched earth you currently live in.

    • @RunFromBlaine
      @RunFromBlaine Před měsícem +1

      Similar story with regards to unaffordable prices at current interest rates freezing the market and being supported by severe shortage in supply (among other points brought up in the video).
      Developers in Canada can't build because the math doesn't work. They need to sell their new homes at ridiculous prices in order to cover the cost of debt and equity to fund their projects, so the projects don't get off the ground. Difference is, in the US, development projects can put shovels in the ground within months, whereas in Canada it takes years to get projects through government red tape--that adds to development costs. So housing development is frozen, while new demand isn't slowing down due to immigration.
      Shorter mortgage terms help the Bank of Canada's policy rate increases work their way through the system better than in the US, so we should be in a position to lower our rates before the US, but there's many factors that go into rate decisions--like considering the impact of decreasing rates on the currency, which would likely become devalued, increasing the cost of imports, which would be inflationary... so although the BoC should be in a position to lower rates before the US, they'll hesitate to do so.
      Unless we can dramatically increase supply, I don't see prices going down. I do think home sales will pick back up when rates decrease because affordability will improve somewhat, but the supply-demand imbalance won't be resolved any time soon. Projects will start putting shovels in the ground again as their costs and required rates of return go down, but not nearly enough to close the gap. I don't think prices will keep going up like they have, because they didn't come down, and buyers have shown that they can only afford so much. I expect homes to start selling very quickly once rates come down, but near their current asking prices (at which they're currently not selling).

    • @strigiformsW
      @strigiformsW Před měsícem

      @@RunFromBlaine Very interesting points, thanks for sharing. I have one more year of my masters program and then it'll be time to make a decision. My intuition is similar to yours, I don't think Canada is going to be a great place to start a family anytime soon unfortunately.

    • @RunFromBlaine
      @RunFromBlaine Před měsícem +1

      @@strigiformsW Some cities are less difficult than others. I bought my first home last year in Montreal (but I had to live in other cities the last couple years to get work experience to get a decent job when I came back to Montreal so I could buy a house...). It's not easy buying your first home in Canada, but it's not impossible!
      If you decide to stay here, little piece of advice: once you've saved up a down payment, keep your mortgage pre-approval letter ready, and make browsing real estate listing sites a hobby. Check every few days for new listings and eventually one will pop up with a reasonable asking price, then you have to pounce on it immediately! You probably won't get the first house you bid on, but eventually you'll get it.
      Good luck wherever you decide to go!

  • @T1000mileman
    @T1000mileman Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent video Patrick.

  • @theodorosk.8932
    @theodorosk.8932 Před 5 měsíci +1

    very informative video

  • @NoblessePascal
    @NoblessePascal Před 5 měsíci +3

    Good stuff on the way, lets get it!

  • @sovrappensiero1
    @sovrappensiero1 Před 5 měsíci +4

    This is the most comprehension video on the U.S. real estate market today. Thank you so much for covering so many aspects of this complex situation.

  • @chriscowboyfan
    @chriscowboyfan Před 5 měsíci

    Dropping all kinds of gems in this one. Wow.

  • @greenspot1123
    @greenspot1123 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very good video. Pls do a video on Europe's Real estate and How do American Banks survive in high interest rate scenario.

  • @bonerici
    @bonerici Před 5 měsíci +29

    the only way that houses become affordable is if the entire housing market prices crash just like 2008 but the fed will never let that happen, so at the first hint of a housing crash interest rates will go to zero, and inflation will go sky high, and houses prices will reinflate like a giant balloon. Home owners, and commercial real estate owners refuse to sell at a lower price so this market will be propped up until it crashes and the fed reinflates it.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před 5 měsíci +3

      From my knowledge 2008 only caused an increase of homelessness of fully employed people and few lucky people had the money at the time to buy up the property and often just turned it into rented ones and then a few years after prices surpassed the previous peek again

    • @bonerici
      @bonerici Před 5 měsíci

      @@tomlxyz sounds right

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@tomlxyzWhen employed people are foreclosed on they typically move to rental housing rather than become homeless.

  • @ScottLovenberg
    @ScottLovenberg Před 5 měsíci +9

    I'm locked in at 3.5 on 25% of my, then, income. I see no reason to to do anything other than stay until i can't manage my property any longer. For context, Minneapolis suburbs, software engineer.

  • @portmoneul
    @portmoneul Před 5 měsíci

    Absolute awsome. Tjank you.

  • @ifthen1526
    @ifthen1526 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Prices go up... Incentive goes up... Supply guess up

  • @adrienadrien5940
    @adrienadrien5940 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Hi, just as a side note, here in France we have long terme fixer rate morgage as well (up to 25 or 30 years) and it quite comment to refinance it when raté does down (you have a 6 month interest rate penalty to do so).
    So typicaly I've got a 25 year morgage in 2009 at 5% and it was refunded when rates goes down at 1.8%.
    I sold my house and buy a new one in 2021 with a 20 year fixed rate loan at 0.85%, since the rate hickey and the real estate plugend slightly (something like 5% down) and we are experiencing a decline in volume as well.
    Clearly i won't sell my homme in these circumstances.
    So basically a very similar situation as in US

  • @mathiasbergma
    @mathiasbergma Před 5 měsíci +11

    Fixed rate 30 year mortgages are the norm in Denmark as well. People do take out variable rate loans off course. I myself have a 30 year fixed rate at 6% for 250k. Used to be 1%, but I converted it to take off ~90k.

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci +3

      Well that was an outrageously bad decision 😮

    • @JanBruunAndersen
      @JanBruunAndersen Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@ironmantooltime- not necessarily. The interest rate went up but the principal went down from 340k to 250k. That would mean a shorter payment period at 6 %.
      I am sure Mathias made the necessary calculations and came out on top, or at least not worse off. And in a few years he can probably refinance his < in 250k mortgage to a lower rate. Win win.

    • @ironmantooltime
      @ironmantooltime Před 5 měsíci

      @@JanBruunAndersen Oh right I thought he said cash out not pay off 90k. Still, you could have put the 90k into a pension, realised the tax relief, or into money market and paid the mortgage off the interest, which would be greater than the 1% cost. Both would have avoided losing that tasty 1% lifetime rate. Each to their own. I hope it wasn't a mortgage broker who advised this route as it was very obviously against the borrower's interests.

    • @EspritsFantomes
      @EspritsFantomes Před 5 měsíci +1

      It’s also fixed rate in France. Variable sounds like hell to me because I would never know how much I’ll pay each year in advance. At rear with fixed, there is no bad surprises

    • @dankspain
      @dankspain Před 5 měsíci

      And also in Denmark there aren’t taxes on capital gains on the sale of your main house. The “only” way to get rich in Denmark… Outsiders that haven’t been able to buy a home yet, like me, are truly fucked.

  • @SeenaAbedi
    @SeenaAbedi Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for the video.

  • @DG-ss2zd
    @DG-ss2zd Před 5 měsíci

    Great video thanks

  • @bosoerjadi2838
    @bosoerjadi2838 Před 5 měsíci +12

    Another mortgage difference between America and Europe is that if structurally forfeiting on the mortgage payments, in the US the home owner 'only' loses his house to the lender without a remaining debt, while in Europe the owner remains in debt to pay off the mortgage after the forced sale of the house.

    • @jkbeatty1
      @jkbeatty1 Před 5 měsíci +2

      That's not generally correct in the context of a foreclosure. In most US jurisdictions, the borrower is still liable for any loan balance that's not covered by any recovery from the sale of the foreclosed property. It's called a deficiency, and lenders can obtain a deficiency judgement.

    • @sparksmcgee6641
      @sparksmcgee6641 Před 5 měsíci

      That isn't true. It's state by state and most of them it's a personal loan with the signer liable

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 Před 5 měsíci

      But can a foreclosure together with personal bankruptcy get the owner out of that debt?

    • @deaddevil7
      @deaddevil7 Před 5 měsíci

      What do you mean by "Europe"? The laws are very different across all countries.

  • @gabecodina
    @gabecodina Před 5 měsíci +5

    I bought during the pandemic, here in Australia we have Variable rate loans and the banks simply pass on any hikes. My payments have gone up ~50%. Once I have lived in it for 3 years I can sell it with favorable tax situation. House prices in Australia dont ever seem to come down.

    • @deaddevil7
      @deaddevil7 Před 5 měsíci

      If they don't ever come down and wages don't keep going up at the same rate, you either will face a wide spread revolt by millions of people without access to a house or the government will become even more authoritarian to neutralize the desperate folks.

  • @williamhunt9968
    @williamhunt9968 Před 5 měsíci

    Wonderful, as (almost) always

  • @Carlos-hb6dj
    @Carlos-hb6dj Před 5 měsíci +1

    Patrick in Colombia we have up to 20-25 year fixed rate mortgage. Thanks for your videos 😊

  • @TotallyFred
    @TotallyFred Před 5 měsíci +9

    In Belgium. 20 years fixed rate mortgage is very common. What’s killing the market is the plethora of taxes associated with the sale and transfer of property.

    • @beatrixwillius
      @beatrixwillius Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yup. Same here in Germany.

    • @jakovcu
      @jakovcu Před 5 měsíci +1

      In Croatia we have 3% tax for any real estate sale.

    • @beatrixwillius
      @beatrixwillius Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@jakovcu I'll move to Croatia when I retire.

    • @TotallyFred
      @TotallyFred Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jakovcu Belgium is more or less 15 to 20 % compound taxes and registration (even your mortgage has to be registered and has associated “taxes”) depending on the age of the building.

  • @jwkprod9540
    @jwkprod9540 Před 5 měsíci +8

    If interest rates drop, home prices are likely to stay and could possibly increase.
    Low interest rates is partial how we got into this mess in the first place!! Lowering interest rates is a death sentence!

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci

      What mess? The Mess is everyone who wants a house and can afford one already ones it. Subsidized at the expense of idiot bankers who thought low interest rates would last forever

    • @falcorzed
      @falcorzed Před 5 měsíci

      @@samsonsoturian6013there’s millions waiting on the sidelines

    • @altaccout
      @altaccout Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@samsonsoturian6013 The mess that housing costs are >50% local income in any given market.

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson Před 5 měsíci +1

    There was housing affordability issues long before the interest rates were raised. I bought in 2008 and paid mine off in 2017. I will never borrow again for a home.

  • @z50king29
    @z50king29 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for making this video. Helps us while trying to buy a house

  • @Ultrarooster33
    @Ultrarooster33 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Cant wait for the updates on the world of rap music.

    • @TisDana
      @TisDana Před 5 měsíci +2

      Me too. Been way too long.

  • @sreif78
    @sreif78 Před 5 měsíci +5

    It will be interesting to see what happens to the US housing market in the next year or so. In the D.C. area the market has hit a point similar to 2007-2008 where two six figure incomes are needed for a single family home purchase. Rent is again exceeding mortgage payments from pre interest rate rise affordability. New construction 3 bedroom townhomes for $1.5 million in my postal code is just insane.

    • @doomedwit1010
      @doomedwit1010 Před 4 měsíci

      What's the time frame on usual length of stay in a home for say the 25% most mobile? I figure we'll only see a correction when that time period runs.
      Average time people keep a home os apparently 12 years. So the correction may be slow in coming. Even if average time in home in 2020 was 6 years, that pushes it out to 2026.
      Not that I guaranty a crash, but I won't believe we dodged it until closer to 2030.

  • @aaronformella2869
    @aaronformella2869 Před 5 měsíci +1

    @PBoyle The 40 year fixed-rate mortgage was approved this year in May. So, a 4th way housing can become "more affordable:" by extending the length of the mortgage to a point where the monthly cost is reduced to within the +/- 30% of gross income range, with the trade-off of a much greater overall expense. It seems to stand with the American way of, "put it all on credit." Thank you for the very informative and excellent video!

  • @zogjones
    @zogjones Před 5 měsíci +1

    I sold 2 homes in 2022 and had no problems finding buyers. Trying to sell a single family this year has been stressful. On the market for 4 months, and still holding it. Hoping to delist and relist in February

  • @flywheelshyster6549
    @flywheelshyster6549 Před 5 měsíci +5

    This is infuriating, I put off buying home wheb pandemic hit and now I just can't afford one in the entire county I live in

    • @lolllama1504
      @lolllama1504 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Well you made a choice, took a gamble and this is how it played out

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit Před 5 měsíci +2

      the prices will crash

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci

      That's not so bad. Just rent until the opportunity presents itself

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Před 5 měsíci +2

      Time in the market beats timing the market. And you timed wrong.

  • @thosoz3431
    @thosoz3431 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Count yourselves lucky in the states.
    Here in Australia any fixed term loans are relatively short term
    and most housing loans are variable rate loans.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 5 měsíci

      I was under the impression all the banks went fixed-rate only after 2008. It's not necessarily a good thing because fixed are always priced higher than the current floating rate to cover the bank's cost of insurance

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@samsonsoturian6013 fixed rate are better if you expect interest rates to rise which is to be expected when you take one out when rates were so low

  • @tjskelly100
    @tjskelly100 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I am in between wanting to buy a new home and not. USA here. I have a decent condo that I bought in March 2021. Since then, I found the love of my life. It would make sense for us to find a biggest home and start a family. I am tempted to delay moving until interest rates go down because my rate now is so low. We both have decent, middle income stable jobs and could afford a decent middle class house even now. On the other hand, my condo could accommodate 1 baby, and there is no harm in saving money for a couple more years. I will probably break down and buy a new home, but I am feeling the different financial incentives now.

  • @djeejah
    @djeejah Před 5 měsíci

    Brilliant and easy to understandan explanation of real estate market. I would be very curious to have your take on UK which works differently as you know

  • @bananasandwich8335
    @bananasandwich8335 Před 5 měsíci +3

    We looked into changing our house to a different one half a year ago and new rate was just too much for us. It would’ve added almost +1k in payments to our mortgage.

    • @jj4791
      @jj4791 Před 5 měsíci +1

      For a worse house!
      Thank government
      Inflation and also artificially low interest from the last 10 years has you homeowners paying negative interest, that is far below inflation.

  • @user-me8hc3bs7i
    @user-me8hc3bs7i Před 5 měsíci +5

    The fun thing with that 30 year mortgage is how slow you build usable equity in your home. 10 years in and you’ve gained less than a 1/4 of the loan balance in equity.
    This lack of equity heavily decentivizes people to trade into higher interest payments because many of them would actually be stepping down in the amount of home they can afford.
    Unless 08 levels of bankruptcies start happening, I don’t see this situation improving for nearly a decade.

    • @davidrubenstein3489
      @davidrubenstein3489 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I also think the "correction" is going to happen slowly. I doubt we see 3% rates again anytime soon, meaning people with those low rates are staying put until their incomes rise a lot. And even then, 2019 prices aren't ever coming back in nominal terms without massive and sustained unemployment. The people who bought post-covid and post- 3% rates are way more qualified than people in 06. The massive fire sales won't come the moment the economy turns. I think we'll see home prices very slowly come down in terms of affordability, but that's most likely going to happen via stagnating nominal home prices and incomes creeping up.

  • @Babushka69
    @Babushka69 Před 5 měsíci

    Great video Patrick. You should cover Canada and Australia however since their real estate markets are extremely over heated.
    A video on Hong Kong real estate would be interesting as well.

  • @Phi1point62
    @Phi1point62 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Would appreciate your take on the Australian Housing Market Patrick, in particular why it has yet to crash as Steve Keen predicted.

  • @SuperMooMooFarm
    @SuperMooMooFarm Před 5 měsíci +3

    Weren't most of the defaults in 2008 from prime mortgages? Some economists argue that it was a glut of investors which caused the last crash. If that's true, could investors be the catalyst for another crash? After all, RE prices are set at the margins, and all costs relating to home ownership, including insurance and upkeep, have increased dramatically in the past few years.

    • @sparksmcgee6641
      @sparksmcgee6641 Před 5 měsíci

      There isn't going to be a crash or even a large decrease. It wasn't the investors that caused the 08 crash it wS the loans the banks put together.

  • @davidrubenstein3489
    @davidrubenstein3489 Před 5 měsíci +3

    To me it seems much more realistic that affordability improves slowly over time by nominal house prices staying flat or trailing inflation. People with low rates will continue to sell at a trickle. New home construction isn’t fast enough to correct the market alone. And if rates drop considerably, you’re going to have a lot of existing homeowners enter the market again, but with a massive arsenal of home equity to keep the prices of the homes they bid on up.

    • @eirikarnesen9691
      @eirikarnesen9691 Před 5 měsíci +1

      housing will go down. prices do not go up forever. the autitude that we stabelize on the insane covid levels, is getting really destructive.

    • @davidrubenstein3489
      @davidrubenstein3489 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@eirikarnesen9691Nominal prices can, and have gone up forever when looking on a long enough timescale. Prices in terms of affordability are the cyclical part.

    • @SkySong6161
      @SkySong6161 Před 5 měsíci

      This only assumes that incomes in the US continue to trend upwards, which they haven't. Adjusted for inflation we're being paid less than we've ever been paid since the great depression. It doesn't matter how "slowly" the price increases are if the pay is constantly going down.

    • @davidrubenstein3489
      @davidrubenstein3489 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@SkySong6161 That's not totally inconsistent with my point. Household income relative to inflation has barely budged since the 70s-80s and yet nobody has accused home prices of stagnating during that period. Affordability didn't change quite as dramatically the price increases would indicate because interest rates fell so much since then too. My argument is that affordability must improve at some point, but that doesn't require nominal prices fall on a large scale. A combination of lower interest rates and rising nominal incomes could support current price levels for a while. Again, not in terms of affordability which is the combination of price, rates, and incomes.
      Plus if incomes fall relative to inflation that would raise the likelihood of seeing sustained lower interest rates. That would mean a slow growing economy.

  • @seasidescott
    @seasidescott Před měsícem

    My partner works for the water company and has to deal with a quarter to a third of homes being vacant though not for sale or even vacation homes. They are being held off the market and get their lawns mowed and mail picked up to make it look like someone is there. When a problem arises, like broken irrigation pipe, the same management company names appear for contact.

  • @logwhitley
    @logwhitley Před 5 měsíci +1

    In the UK. Last year my rate went from about 2 to 5%. looking to move up the ladder and though costs are high it's still significantly cheaper then renting for me.

  • @HermanWillems
    @HermanWillems Před 5 měsíci +3

    Yes. Here in Netherlands we also have fixed rate for 30 years. Some even have 30 year fixed rate @ 1% interest or lower. And yes we can transfer the mortgage to another house. Which means i can transfer the low interest with me. So our housing market is not so stuck as USA.

    • @IceAce1
      @IceAce1 Před 5 měsíci

      Fascinating. No way they'd let you port a mortgage to another property here.

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Před 5 měsíci

      @@IceAce1 why wouldnt it be possible. Appraise both properties. Add a mortgage to it. Get a transfer loan, put your other house for sale..yes banks only take 85% value of your previous house to take in account price drops in the market. But all in all its not that complicated. Sell your old house if sold.. the. The transfer loan gets paid off.(transfer loan is just a loan where u pay interest and pay off after u sold.) Then the whole mortgage is transferred + extra mortgage if u go from cheaper house to more expensive one. Right now i have 3 different rate mortgages on my current house. 3.6%, 1.25% and latest one 4.5%.

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Před 5 měsíci

      And I pay half in income tax that I would in the Netherlands. 36% for the lower bracket and 49% for the upper bracket? Hah. Have fun with that. Even with a higher interest rate you're losing way more income than I am

    • @IceAce1
      @IceAce1 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Ryan-wx1bi What is the link between income tax and financial market regulations governing mortgages?

    • @bwvl
      @bwvl Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@IceAce1did you watch the video? Apparently there are some loans which have this feature in them in the USA.

  • @anonymous..-
    @anonymous..- Před 5 měsíci +4

    The buyer is the bottom in this housing market.

  • @juwright1949
    @juwright1949 Před 5 měsíci

    excellent! 👍🏻

  • @TheDanieldineen
    @TheDanieldineen Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love what you do Patrick and I understand the incentive to focus on the US rather than the small fish like Ireland but I'd really love a video on the residential and commercial markets in Ireland!!! 🤞🤞🤞

    • @harryireland1935
      @harryireland1935 Před 5 měsíci

      Can't you see the reality for what it is?
      Mass influx of people, practically no newly built houses, financial repression by the bankingcartel and realtors playing their biddingwar games.
      I'm sorry, but don't expect anything to change for the next few years.
      The establishment has made its intentions quite clear. There will be no stopping immigration.
      I'm so sorry for the Irish youngsters that don't see a future in this country anymore. Practically everyone I talk to is either leaving or preparing to leave eventually.

  • @mvs9122
    @mvs9122 Před 5 měsíci +4

    He didn't mention corporate entery into single family home. Just outlawing that will significantly improve things. There is also many empty home that can be taxed for being empty to force more homes into the market. Also lets remember this was caused by the fed keeping rate low artificially.

  • @badplayer281
    @badplayer281 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Thanks for the video, I'm intrigued to know why you haven't mentioned the role of private equity firms in the freezing of the market too. as this freezing issue is not just a US only problem to pin it on fixed rates alone.
    Also I would like to know your thoughts on the zucktown and google town, that might be worth a video of your opinion about it.

  • @jmon24ify
    @jmon24ify Před 5 měsíci +2

    With the recession, inflation, high interest rates, in my area the cost of homes are 2-4 times more expensive than last year (what was a $500k house a year or two ago is now almost $3m), rent has gone up to an extra $1000/month, massive layoffs and increase rate of working homeless. cost of living surge, yet income has decreased. Considering all those factors, I am glad I bought my house when I did and so happy I refinanced my house when the interest rate dropped to 1.9%. I am not moving anywhere in the foreseeable future.