SpaceX Is Racing To The Third Starship Launch & Reveals The Second Tower Location!
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Location of the second SpaceX Starship tower revealed! Not where you might think!
Starship 28 is getting close to another test! Are they finally ready?
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What’s your guess? How long will it take SpaceX to achieve rapid reusability of the tower and the launch table? What needs to happen? Share your predictions in the comments!
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"Raptor Resistant" is not a word, it is a prepositional phrase. You are welcome. lol
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That new jig is a ring clamp, look for welding robots to be delivered to star factory. Seem like full production line with welding robots, grab the ring, rotate as the robot welds and when done set back down and move onto the next station. They are not screwing around at all.
Ya, looks like a rotating stand that’s upside down. The steel on the apex is pretty beefy obviously to hold a lot of weight and there’s a hole in the plate on top in the pic.
'Whipped up", a cooking term that has become mainstream for an on-the-fly engineering solution. As opposed to 'wiped up' which is generally a 'clean-up' term.
I don’t know what it is. But this episode’s editing looks way better than your regular content, it’s better, tight, smoother, prettier, better! Nice!
Appreciate that! We're constantly learning. Watch Episode 1. :D
I'm really looking forward to the IFT 3 hopefully it will reach orbit and land back on earth. And also waiting for the second tower. I'm truly inspired by the starship and want to become an astronaut. Thank for the updates
You do know “landing” is not in the plan, right? …Unless you consider setting down in the ocean a “landing.”
@@737smartin
By the time he could become an astronaut landing on the launch tower will be common. Don't jetison the oxygen of his dream.
@appliedfacts - I still think landing on the launch tower is a bridge too far. One little malfunction and you wipe out a very expensive, time-consuming to replace Stage 0 and ground your entire fleet of Starships.
And did you see how close together the two orbital pads will be??? At Canaveral, the Saturn launch pads were tens of miles apart........ for very good reason.
I'm still anxious to see the one final modification needed to justify Starship's existence, cargo access. You're not going to just roll up with say 80 tons of cargo without a cargo hatch and loading system.
There's a lot of moving parts to the science of moving parts
not even 80, its beween 150-200 tons
@ertySkyYeah, I know. Was thinkin about the first operational launch. Where does the cargo go and how do you load it in. Major re-envisioning required, ground and support systems need to be developed. And how do we insure structural integrity for the trip back down after we've cut big holes in the top half.
@@Winkkin SpaceX has done impossible things before I wouldn't be surprised if they could do it again, and they've got a bit of NASA's help. I think making a good cargo bay is the least of their problems anyway
@ertySkyOh I'm a SpaceX fanboy. But that large hole in the upper fuselage or to allow the movement of 100+tons of cargo in and out significantly increases stress concerns during maxq and reentry. The issues with marshaling, storing, prepping that cargo is going to require a city unto itself.
I mentioned after the second launch that the launch platform is a long way from being able to launch twice in a month let alone twice in a day. You need to be able to launch 15 refuel ships in order to send one Starship to Mars and I'm sure they wont send just one ship. I'm thinking a fleet of 3 to 5 ships and 50 to 60 refuel launches to get a mission in the air over a short two week launch window. And you cant launch the fuel in advance because of boil-off.
Theres a list of impossible things that need to be done before 2028 or 2030.
@@Winkkin let's just have faith then and hope everything works out
Just guessing, but I think the “Stretch Starship” is going to have to wait on the Raptor 3 that has been mentioned. Besides the higher thrust required to get the thing off the ground, the efficiency will have to bump up to get the new heavier Starship past the atmosphere on the same amount of propellant. The engineering on those engines is going to be astonishing.
Sorry Felix, but they didn’t have a boil off problem. If you listened to the video conference, they said that their insulation was good and boil off was not an issue.
On top of that the tanks could handle the pressure so additional temperature just led to higher pressure and no gas.
Thank you very much for the feedback! If we cover the lander again we'll make sure to incorporate this.
There should be a Moon tip-over correction mission to right-up all the recent landers in recent years
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I still can't believe they will try and catch the first stage on the tower. That will be the most insane broadcast so far.
Agreed that be a picnic on the beach affair for sure!! Maybe even pay/view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................but living in Arizona has it's issues!!
They should have a dedicated catch tower , just in case .....
Felix, I am not being glib or sarcastic: your pronunciation of some words is much improved in recent times. Go... go... go! Speaking from personal experience, it is NOT easy to retrain one own tongue.
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Almost information overload but was able to make it to the end without falling asleep, as little old men are want to do! Nice video.
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It's gonna take more than a couple attempts at catching that big Bas***d. So, my best guess for full rapid reusability is... 7 more launches, LUCKY number 7.
Oh no...
I feel like if catching fails, fireballs and serious damage on the facilities might happen 😨
You may be right. Have they actually caught it yet? I bet they have enough data from falcon 9 landings to get it close. Including this next launch I think it will be 3 more launches before they nail it. This next launch will make it to orbit and the booster will blow up at the tower either in the air or on the ground but the tower is going to be damaged or worse I think. If I’m right we will see a complete and successful launch and landing this time next year. If your right 7 more launches will take us out to about 2 1/2 years before they are successful. I think it will be harder to catch the starship than the booster but I don’t know what do you think?
@@joshuachan6317 not likely by landing the booster will be almost completely depleted of propellant as will be the tank farm which is protected by walls though the tower could be taken out
@@ShawnSaunders-vg3ms the 3rd launch will make the booster land into the ocean, and depending how it goes they do that a few more times, because they can’t risk blowing the tower, when the rocket itself works and can carry starlinks
I still think they should have kept one of the oil platforms to use in the initial catching phase of the boosters and Starship. As good as they are at water based landings if they have an issue with sticking the catch, if done out to sea the only damage would be to the oil rig and not to Starbase.
I could imagine having two quick disconnect, set ups, and then alternating between them
They were lying all along, watch the press conference, I think the CEO and CTO should resign and not be allowed to staty for the next missions. They were bragging on their achievements even when everything failed
Interesting to see new Glen actually roll out.
Thanks Felix. I'll believe the launch pad will be ok after the next launch. I just need to see it after all this work.
I think what happened was the aliens on the moon just knocked it down 😂
Anyone else still having WAI being unsubscribed? CZcams does this way too much. I just subscribed to you channel again for the 4th time in a year
New Glenn will likely blow up
I visited LC-36 yesterday and got a good look at things. It's quite impressive, but NDAs preclude me from giving any details. It's all big stuff, though!
Go EagleCam and congrats to ERAU for being the first university built payload on the Moon!
What amazes me is the amount of planning required for SpaceX ,then there is Tesla ,,his tunnel venture ,also chip implants in the human brain ,plus whatever else he has in review,astounding amount of energy would be used ,I'm wondering if this has a affect on his health and wellbeing,I'm concerned because he is too precious to mankind to lose ❤❤❤❤ respect
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They need a new road between all 3 sites because soon theres going to be constant closures for ship movement
They're also going to need to accommodate what will be a constant stream of tankers to keep the tank farm filled. I see cryogenics resupply as a real potential Achilles heel to the StarShip program.
My feeling is that it’ll be a couple of years for them to reach reusability.
This episode of WAI had so much advertising it was nearly unmatchable.
Hilarious.
They need to support themselves dude.
FYI Felix that is a V shape not a U shape. Or half of an X.
19:20 - Launch 20 million, payload 200 million. 😂 🔥
Very niice. How much?
How high is the RRF?
The raptor resistance factor? ;-)
... The RRF of the launch tower ;-) 🗼🚀
I don't have a launch tower icon, so I used something a bit similar instead ;-)
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It looks like a tampax, it just need a string on the bottom lol. 18:49
The puzzling jig might be used for nose cone construction.
Achieving rapid readability of the tower is a larger problem than simply getting it ready for another launch.
But each iteration of Stage-Zero, brings it closer and closer to being able to support rapid reuse.
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Those former nitrogen tanks might used for compensating for backpressure during fuel loading allowing the load to go faster.
I want the water tank that supplies the fire suppression system to have a label that reads raptor repellent
is there any place on the interwebs where we can watch new glenn development live like we can do with starship
Just a guess, but that jig looks like a lifting ring clamp. Maybe to aid in stacking new sections within a mega bay???
The progress of the work is encouraging. But new delays are more than likely, as well as new problems being identified during testing.
Hey Felix! You have often spoke about the ship and booster quick disconect providing fuel and power, we all know about the fuel and oxygen but what kind of power? Ac or dc? What voltoge? If AC then what frequency? 60 hz like the us grid or 400hz like aircraft power systems? If AC what phase? Single, split phase or three phase? Inquiring minds want to know! Lol
OLB orbital launch mount
I'm guessing the 3rd Starship launch will be March 18th
Yes Felix that's a giant steering wheel to sitting upside down lol.
Rocket 🚀
It looks like a lift jig for the boosters
It's nice to see people doing stuff sanely; Both construction, development, production, testing all happening coincidentally; Instead of stupid moronic typical method of say "build the factory and facilities first, no one may be at the area before those are completed. Then move in, start development, and try to live in within that space"
Felix, it's Whipped-up, not wiped-up. :P (Whipped as in whipping)
Opera! Otherwise a good update!
I guess it's easy to say final checks are important...Hind sight is always 20/20!
9:20 isn't that u shape the upper section of an X, maybe they'll expand it in the near future to include a lower section. Maybe what we may need to see is if there is enough space for it though.
The amount of times I’ve heard “looks like we are finally close to seeing another launch is insane, I watch like once every 2 weeks now because of how slow things are
Exactly.
They should cover the top of the launch stand with heat shield tiles... ???
Multiple Catch Towers Please!🙏😁
Much easier to build and Replace, When a Booster takes it out!
Mich Less infrastructure for a Catch Only Tower! 👍
Several Catch towers located far enough from each other for safety from a Booster RUD, would be optimal to minimize Launch and Catch cadence! 🤔
Mike in San Diego. 🌞🎸🚀🖖
Tipping on the Moon is becoming a tradition. And there are those that want to get rid of it here in the States...
When you said the sensor failed and it provided stale readings, that assumption was incorrect. Stale telemetry just states the most recent value received by the ground station. The loss of comms due to poor orientation after landing likely resulted in a lack of telemetry and thus the stale value just prior to the topple.
Do you mean Condenser...instead of Vapourizers..
If your converting gas to liquid your condensing it..?
Can busters push other things a part of Spaceships? For instance a second minibuster(second stage) and a mini-spaceship in order to send something at third scape velocity?
16:01 Did ANYTHING work as planned? Sensors, navigation, landing...?
15:43 ISRO did a better job by imposing a pause during descent to totally get rid of lateral movement, then started a slow descent on a scanned surface to land on a spot free of obstacles.
On the second attempt, at least... ISRO's first try was considerably less successful than IM-1. Hopefully Intuitive Machines will sort out a few of their problems (especially the self-inflicted ones) for their next next lander.
considering where BO is in comparison, the NG best ace their first launch to keep a candle lit.
Hey Felix! Why doesn't Spacex use a vertical pez dispenser for Starship? The vertical loads carry much better than cutting horizontally across the ship?
It seems like the best course of action for reusability for the launch tower and platform would be a flame diverter to keep the bulk of the thrust directed away from the components. Why not bring the sister company Boring machine and dig a few tunnels to allow the flames to go underground and come out several hundred yards from the platform? That seems like a simple solution compared to the water deluge system they're using now.
Raptor Resistant is actually two… words… 😊
15:39 With collapsible landing struts, a little horizontal motion would have been canceled.
Oh, well, live and launch!
15:56 Obviously, the problem was in the AE-35 unit! 😋
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I just want to see what the landing burn looks like on that booster 😅
What SpaceX needs at Starbase is not another megabay, but a Gigabay!
Best T-0 for IFT-3 would be 3/14 at 1:59 PM.
I think they will need tow or three more launches to get all ready for fast turnaround.
Booster can still grow taller, they will either top up the mega bay to be taller as well or build one or two more that will be taller and turn over the current bays to build Starships. Considering how many Starships they are planning to produce more mega bays is highly probable though eventually I'd expect most production will be done in Florida.
At the pace Blue Origin is moving, they'll go from being the industry leaders of CGI rockets to the industry leaders of pathfinder simulated rockets.
The base of the booster is just a pathfinder object. It isn't flight hardware. The inter-stage at the top of the booster propellant tank section also isn't flight hardware. It's another pathfinder component.
The base will be swapped & engines installed for static firing & them became a flight hardware
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Yeah, it seems they have the modern day Ned to keep up with fashion and of looking good. Whether it will fly and all systems will work is only a secondary concern.
2:00 "the boosters epsence"? did you mean absence?
The rusty jig being made is a rotating stand. It’s upside down. Look at how beefy the pointy part is.
so for odysseyus they forgot to flip a switch lol thats why navigation didnt work but atleast they got to test the navigation lidar doppler so good stuff
Isn't this the second lander that that also tipped over? (Japan also had issues) 🤔
It is just too windy on the moon in winter. Two landers got blown over so far.
I'm inclined to wait for the first landing attempt before commenting on when it will be ready for rapid re-launch. Extensive damage has been done after every launch so far. If the tiles on the rocket continue to fall off that will be a big problem in itself. I think the launch tower is too complex and has too many working parts. Impossible to protect against the rocket blast and return flight. I believe the best way to handle the problem is to have a launch tower(s) with separate landing tower(s). That would cut the problem in half and separate the landing area from all of the equipment necessary for launch. I would probably trash this design and incorporate changes into a new design. The new design would use the best of what they have now and have some kind of channel for flame control. Even back to the first buildings its been known that you have to build on solid ground. When damage is done to the ground and structural support you have to start over. Until that problem is resolved there will be no rapid turn around.
You say *"Extensive damage has been done after every launch so far".*
There have been exactly two flights. Unless you can link to a counter-example, damage following IFT-2 was minimal as compared to IFT-2
You say *"I think the launch tower is too complex and has too many working parts. Impossible to protect against the rocket blast and return flight".*
It has worthwhile complexity, since it permits stacking of a complete launcher within a day. There is no other example of this for a heavy lift launch system. The open lattice structure of the tower is designed to let shock waves simply pass through, leaving equipment intact, as it has done twice so far.
You say *"I believe the best way to handle the problem is to have a launch tower(s) with separate landing tower(s)"*.
The objective is fast turnaround which avoids transferring hardware from a hypothetical landing tower to a launch tower.
You say: *"The new design would use the best of what they have now and have some kind of channel for flame control".*
solved problem thanks to the deluge system proved out on IFT-2. Flame trenches reached their limits with STS which spat out bricks on every launch.
@@paulwilliams3731 - There have been 11 launches of Starship prototypes. All of which required extensive repairs to the facility and/or site.
SX has the capability to move rockets from one location to another rapidly. The ability to land away from the main launch tower gives less chance for damage to the launch facility and as I otherwise describe above. At some point in the future it will be more useful than it is now.
You may have four rockets getting prepped for launch with only one launch tower to launch from. A landing tower gives you the capability to load and unload and prep for launch without restricting use of the launch tower. It actually improves turn around time rather than hinders it.
Every time you launch and land from the same tower you double the chances for a catastrophic event. An event that could damage all of the facilities and equipment nearby the launch tower that are not necessary to the landing tower.
I don't think the deluge system has yet proven it is entirely successful. I can foresee both a flame control system as well as the deluge system. When there are no burns marks on all of the components you will know it works. When you have to replace key components every time you have a launch you have a problem. The more complex the components the more chances for a failure. Common sense.
When it comes to the design of a flame control system and sound suppression, I suspect SX already has alternative systems in mind. It may not even be a trench. Whatever they come up with will likely be better than what's been used in the past and will be unique to the environment it is used in. Boca Chica, Florida, California, etc.
One thing for sure, they cannot keep replacing the metal protective plates and control arms, complex parts and painting the parts and repairing the concrete after every flight. They certainly can't repair the nearby tanks, wiring, parking lot, administrative facilities and land areas, etc. They have to reduce exposure and minimize the complexity as much as possible.