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Detroit diesel 8v92TA assembly after tear down. Scenicruiser bus engine upgrade.
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2022
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Part 1 detroit diesel 8v92TA tear down. • Detroit diesel 8v92TA ...
I've heard you say more than once, the hand is not a hammer. Makes me remember my dad telling me don't beat those hubcaps on with your fist son, that's what we have a rubber hammer for.. I remember that every time I look at my knuckles and feel the pain.
I rebuild Two Stroke Detroits and people say that I can't stop them from bleeding and I say, I can, watching these gentlemen install the pistons from the BOTTOM of the cylinders is how to stop the piston rings from cracking or breaking. I'd LOVE to work with these guys
I was really hoping to hear it run on the stand! Looking forward to a finished product video.
Me too.
Having watched you do this in a field or driveway before, what a treat to have a nice, dry, well-lit shop now.
Easily one of the most interesting episodes of engine work yet on the BHM channel.
I'd like to see more episodes like this.
Possibly even longer.
Personally I would have checked the liner protrusion before installing o-rings and pistons. Love your video's keep up the good work.
Liner protrusion = liner height ? If yes then they did this
Having built many of these engines I always found that getting new liner shims under the liners keeps them real close for protrusion. I always aimed for .046 as it gave the head gasket a good crush on the head.Looks like you did a good job on this engine
What does it mean "a good crush"?
@@adamromanak7605 crush means the gasket that sits on top of liner that the piston rides in allows a tich seal between the cylinder head and the sealing of the combustion chamber on top of the piston. Remeber these engines fun at around 17:1 compression ratio and you definatel want to keep the combustion gases in the cylinder. Ok?
@@rogeryoung2049 ah, thanks for that. I know nothing but like to watch and learn.
And people think they are JUST BUS AND TRUCK ENGINES! Rock on, what a great channel!
DD Guild memeber in the day, certified for all series; my fave, 12V-71 in an Astro. Straight pipe glorious noise; we had our drivers comment on the exhaust note when climbing a long hill outside of town, to know if our tune-up or overhaul was top notch. Still have my 60 Series accreditation framed and posted in my shed.
I've only seen one Astro truck in my life and it had a Caterpillar engine in it.
@@safetyvideos9866... Other than several of GM's own Detroit Diesels (6-71 as the base engine, the 8-71 & the v12 which was dropped in 1978 for the Astro), before the 1977 model year, no other diesel brands were ever an option.
1977 opened power options for Cat. with the 3406 PCTA (pre-cup head & injection system), as well as the Cummins KT450 which was the main reason for the enlargement of the radiator and corresponding larger front grill.
So, the one that you saw with Cat power, had to be 1977 or newer.
Actually, Very few of the Astro 95's were ever ordered with Cat power until Cat re-headed the 3406 to DI/ Direct Injection, compared to the Cummins, and most of those were after 1980 when the Cummins NTC Series was added to the line up for power options in the Astro.
The Chevy Titan COE was dropped from production in 1980, in fact that was the Chevrolet HD Divisions last year of producing HD class 7 & 8 trucks.
GMC continued until 1987, when Volvo bought into the GMC HD division... then shut it down.
@@Romans--bo7br I believe it had an engine swap. When I first saw the truck I was expecting it to have a 2-stroke in it.
@@safetyvideos9866.... Hello and thanks for your reply. Possibly could have been a swap/repower... If, it was a model year Prior to 1977, but as I mentioned before, the Cat.3406A did become an available option with the 1977 model year, as well as the Cummins KT 450, though Very Few were ever ordered with the KT.
Cummins NTC series were available as optional power as well, beginning in 1975 and was the most popular choice as an option... especially in the western states.
The mid western. central and eastern states, as well as the eastern Provinces of Canada, favored the Detroits.
Single drive axle units heavily favored the very reliable 6-71, and the early "twin screw" Astro (& Chevy Titan's) were the domain of the 8-71, and the V12 was a big favorite in Eastern Canada for pulling doubles with GVW's of up 118,000 lbs.
Just as an aside, the GMC division had developed a turbine powered Astro 95 as well, but did not make it into actual production due to "insufficient fuel mileage".... which was pure "baloney", as they were getting nearly 40% better mileage in the semis, and the converted Greyhound buses, were getting 3 times better fuel mileage than the diesels were (8-71 Detroits of the era)... averaging 10 - 12 mpg, fully loaded, according to several people I knew who were associated with the development & testing programs at the time.
It was "big oil" that got the turbine programs shut down for vehicular use through their lobbyists in DC... Not the lack of fuel mileage.
@@Romans--bo7br Out curiosity what was noise level a turbine in Astro?
This episode had an almost medical / surgical feel, great stuff!
Those ol' DD 2 strokes fascinate me. I have an 8v92T DDEC in my '93 Newell. It amazes me how so many close tolerance parts are assembled to produce a power plant that will run for 200k plus!!! I enjoyed watching this video. Geat job BGM!
And that's why I don't like 2 strokes..a 60 series will go a million plus miles and have way more power and use less fuel.
I’ve never seen one of these engines taken apart like this. Really different from any engine I’ve seen before.
Hey Scott I don't know if you've ever used the Rust-Oleum version of naval jelly, but especially for surface rust it does a phenomenal job. You can also get it in a container that allows you to stick everything in a bath and again it does a phenomenal job if you've never used it.
Love the engine rebuild hope to see it run someday good job scott
Good to hear you are trying to educating the young ones on. Don’t use your hands as hammer’s. I’m in my 60s now and have severe cramps And arthritis in my right hand from using it as a hammer for may years as a heavy vehicle mechanic 👨🔧
It's like going back in time with my grandpa. I'd love to have an old 8v71t Detroit in a cabover but there's no mechanic left around here to teach me how to work on one and a career in it would be a death sentence. Times change. Sucks but it is what it is. Out with the old in with the new. True Detroit diesel 2 stroke mechanics should get paid their worth
Love those 8V92TT , I used to install those all the time in the old days at Wagner Mining Equipment Co in ST-8B LHD’s and MT-444 mine trucks, they just purrrrrrrr👍👍
I am not sad I missed loading it back into the trailer. Unloading it was a little "sporty"!
your nice clean shop is such a good investment in overhaul of engines. congratulations
It's a good thing the kid was holding his tongue in the right direction 🤣
My eyes roll back thinking about buying this thing diesel. Love the sound though - always have.
Man I love these engines
The 8v92 weighs just over 3200 lbs. A class 4 hitch has a maximum tongue weight of 1400 lbs.
Thank you Scott for your reply about cost of things I’ve been watching your show many years you’ve always replied that this is totally awesome I just can’t wait for the mini more years to come the shop is awesome and your idea of bus parking spots is really great
Compound boosted? Did I see an intercooler brick under the blower too? Nice!
enjoying all the clips u send out, keep the clips coming
Had an 8v92TTA in an ASTRO - lots of pulling power
For those that don’t know 6, 8 and so forth are the cylinders and the number is cubic inches, 92, 71
Hand is not a hammer!
Best advice you can give to a young guy.
A very good rebuild video, im sure it will sound very nice after all the works are completed.
sounds like what was wrong with dad's new '79 silver 8v92TA in a Freightliner long nose. was in the shop for warranty work 48 times in 2 years. Mom and Dad are in their 70s now still talking about that
motor. not all Detroit Silvers were bad.
just ours.
You have to find a mechanic that knows how & loves to work on Detroit's if not go home!
Great video of a diesel used in a bus....watched every second and dropped a like... long time supporter.
Oh man what a tease. Now I have to wait another month!
Wow that is quite a rebuild. Sweet.
Have you ever seen cracked roller retainers before? If rusty rockers weren't bad enough...
They make long ended dead blow hammers which are specifically for installing pistons. One is $38 direct from Trusty-Cook.
Dave that is one NICE looking DD!! 🙂
I can’t believe you shipped that block off nekkid. It needs that Detroit green cot of paint to keep it warm.
It’s silver. Detroit diesel 92 silver series is painted silver not alpine green
Man those are some big cylinders
well GM, with regular maintenance, it should last 200,000👋Best wishes to you and your family !
In 1975 the 92 series came out Detroit Diesel had a 200, 000 mile full parts & labor warranty , that was unheard of .
This may be a dumb question, but would it help seal the heads better against oil leaks to use a non hardening sealer like High Tack on the perimeter seals instead of grease? I'm no Detroit guy, but I have built countless race engines from many manufacturers and have found that High Tack has been my best friend for many unconventional purposes lol.
Thumbs up; been using Hi-Tack since 1960.
@11:49 is that a crack or a parting surface?
Looks like a bolt-in swap for Dad's old F150.
Hi, great video. Do you have a P/N for the sleeve hold down clamps? Thank you in advance!
As a kid, I would listen to the announcements at the station, one was Greyhound "Scenicruiser Service", and one was "Americruiser Service." One service stopped everywhere (and made for a looong ride), and the other service seemed like an "express bus" with fewer stops. Can anyone clarify? I always wondered if that was the case?
Ed Smith... The difference between the two "services" was actually the type of coaches used on particular routes. The "Scenicruiser" Service just meant that the GM PD 4501 would be used (considered by many to be the "most beautiful coach [bus] ever built).
In case you're not familiar with the model designation, just do an online search for GM PD-4501.
It was designed by Raymond Loewy who was a well known Industrial Designer, and who also designed Streamlined Steam Locomotive outer bodywork for the "Pennsy" RR in the 1930s & 40s for passenger service and hundreds of other well known companies of various industries.
The "Americrusier" Service indicsted that the passengers would be riding in a MCI MC-12 coach.
Thanks Scott, ✌🏽😊 l am going over some of the vidio's that l missed, Huge fun for me to watch this, never saw the internals ov a Detroit before. I was so excited, it went by in like seconds, l would have liked to seen more, more details, like checking if the cylinders needed a shim or not? It would be nice to see that, this vidio could have been an hour? or two longer. Like what about the blower? Seals? Was it oiled? The scallops lubed for initial start and run in? just how much torque were the head bolts?
If lm looking for a bus? What is the best engine for power? Best for longevity? Torque? I want a foot stomping, ground pounding powerhouse❕l want to drive 75 - 80 m.p.h. and have some, lots left for climbing those really long B.C. 🇨🇦 mountain grades.
👌🏻✌🏻🙋♂️🌤🇨🇦🖖.
Why aren’t you sponsored by tool companies? That would fit the channel so much better.
Ya end up getting that 69 ford for a shop truck. Dat wud B cool!!!
Liner protrusion
I think I missed something. You were using a suction cup on the side of the piston. Why? Is the wrist pin O-ring sealed on the Detroit because it passes over the ports in the cylinder? That has to be it.
Pressurized oil shoots up the rod
Hi Gotta luv the swamp fox at 18:19 ,engine bay looks original . Is it the Tecumseh 16 hp single cyl ?? . Oh yes I own a Super Swamp fox which has 26 inch wheels . I believe this is the only difference .
Looking forward to hearing it run in the Scenicruiser. Have you heard any updates on it Scott?
Fix the air leak that is hissing in the background .
The typical Bespoke Post products go to prove the adage about "Different Strokes."
I like different types of stuff and they have a wide variety of unique items from many different product lines
How common is it to have a 1978 MCI 8v71 with a Jake brake?
How do I get a Detroit Diesel 8V92T engine
And deck surface height
Brand new engine
Great job!!!
that's art !
It's awesome I am from Morocco I have 21 years of experience in engines, I need to immigration . how can I do it please?
So no rings on the piston?
@Gary Mathews I didn't understand the o rings in the block thanks!
@Gary Mathews they are much simpler than a 4 stroke gasoline engine
@@DrDiff952.... how do you come to That conclusion of comparison?
How in the Heck was I not Subscribed to this Channel? Well, I am now!! LOL
Thanks
Excellent work, how many hp does the engine have now?
525
So cool @@BusGreaseMonkey greetings from Costa Rica.
Yah many years 6v 92
Hay I have 1948 bus rv would you be interested on buying it
1700 pounds of tongue weight? Did I hear that right?
Awesome
Nice one
How much is a complete engine overhaul like you just did cost just ballpark?
He did all the work. We have a Patreon deal where people can come here and use our specialty tools and just pay $140 per day fee. Normally a rebuild is around 10k labor 2-4k parts but you never know what issues you will run into. He had all his own parts from other engines he tore down and his liner kits were basically new with only 5k miles on them.
Thanks for your reply that’s awesome it’s an expensive game to play if you’re a poor man to like restore a bus
Damn 10k in labour to rebuild an engine, I’m moving to America 😌
Scott is there any value in an 1989 8v92 with 100k miles. It is in a fire engine. Just a ballpark
500-2k depending on how long since it’s been run
@@BusGreaseMonkey thanks. It's running and still in the truck. No smoke no oil consumption.
Literally paint buckets
How many inch/pounds are the headbolts adjusted?
180 ft lbs i think. I always refer to the book to confirm but i think that’s what it is.
That axe :D
Is that a 430 Detroit?
It's an 8-92T (or TA).... not sure of it's particular hp rating in this coach, but the 92 series V8's (with turbo(s), could range anywhere from 400 to over 800 hp (marine applications)... all depending on injectors (volume and flow rate characteristics... there are Many different ones), blower model and gear drive ratio, single or twin turbos, size thereof, whether "dry" or water cooled (marine).
I have seen some 8-92's with the twin turbo kit (including matched injectors for the turbo size & air flow rates), in bus conversions (motor homes) that are rated to 520+/-.
Beautiful Detroit porn, Scott! That's going to be a happy 8v92!
Water in the engine after 5k. Buses are worse than boats.
uograde common rail engine
Can do without the advertising tbh
They pay the bills
You need a mic on you so we can hear what your saying. Too many time your voice is way to faint.