CANON RF 28-70 F2 - Say Goodbye to Your Primes? - BTS Photoshoot on the EOS R6
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
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In this video, I tell you all about my feelings for the Canon RF 28-70 F2 L. This is an incredible lens, but can it really replace your prime lenses? Should it? Who is this lens for?
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Enjoyed the vid, Zach! I'm in the camp that prefers the zoom over primes in this focal range. I had the 35 1.8 and 50 1.8 prior and this lens had made those absolutely unnecessary. It can't replace a good 1.2 or 1.4 aperture prime, but the trade-off to have versatility just makes this much more usable for me. I think the heft of the lens is notable, but I've also hand held my camera with this lens all day a couple times without much issue. Not a lens for everyone, but everyone should rent it to give it a try to find out if it is.
I couldn't agree more! The point about the f stop of the primes you're using is a good one. Something I probably should have mentioned. Thanks so much for the comment & thanks for watching! :)
This is a game changing lens for me. I totally respect those who choose not to go for it, but I couldn't be happier. Almost never leaves my camera! I rented an RF 70-200 f/2.8 for this weekend's wedding and I'm super excited to try this duo. I never saw myself leaving primes and I will definitely keep my primes as backups in case I ever (heaven forbid) break the 28-70 during a wedding day or just want a lightweight setup for travel, but that lens is my true love ❤️
I am so happy to hear that you are loving this lens! I definitely enjoyed my time with it, and I can see how you love it! Thanks so much for watching!! :)
This lens is absolutely crazy good. I shoot events and I used to use the Sigma 24-105 f/4 adapted. Being able to shoot in a theatre with the exact same settings but at 1/4 the ISO is a total game changer, the images are just so CLEAN! The inconvenience of its size and weight pales in comparison to the inconvenience of changing lenses in the middle of a shoot and risking missing a great shot.
I still love my primes for casual or more controlled shooting, but for events and weddings where you have to always be ready, this is a dream come true.
Yeah it's so nice that this is an option for the photographers who want to use it. I know so many people who have tried it and love it. Thanks for watching! :)
Really great vid, super well done! I do love my 28-70 and I love how you break down how it comes down to how you shoot!
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you are loving the 28-70. I know so many people who do!
I've always been a prime shooter often lugging an 85mm on one body and 35mm on the other. The versatility and almost prime like quality of 28-70 would make this a single lens solution for many occasions. Weight wise, this lens on one body can't be any heavier than carrying two. I'm soon gonna give this a go.
This is my favorite lens. I was fortunate to purchase this before even having an RF mount body, so it was available refurbished from Canon for less than $1,800 US. I love having near-prime aperture available with the 28-70 focal range. I do use this lens for video and it works great with the R5 or R6. If you check Canon's website, somehow this lens is rated for 8 stops of stabilization attached to the R5 or R6. Yes, you read that correctly - Canon rates it for 8 stops attached to the R5 and R6!
With the available f/2 this lens is great in lower light and for really setting off the subject in video. Because of the lens's weight, it is really quite easy to get great results. If you still have the lens on rental - give it a go. Most people are surprised you get the max stops of stabilization without this lens having image stabilization built-in.
Thanks for reviewing my favorite RF lens!
Ah wow!! Lots of great points here. Thanks so much for sharing. I really loved this lens & the look it produces. Interesting point about the stabilization. And congrats on getting it at that price!! That's unheard of at least for me. Thanks for watching! :)
I’ve read some mention focus breathing. Is it a real issue w this lens?
@@angellondian7628 Yeah I own this lens and I’ve never experienced any focus breathing at all.
Finally, a different take than the most I hear on this lens.
Helps me to consider my choices wisely. I would love to go for this lens for all that it offers, but the weight is a big-big dampner. I find even 24-70 2.8 (older version around 1 kg) unweildy. Moreover, I find it difficult to precompose shots in my mind in the standard zoom range. Primes are a joy to shoot. Again a personal take.
Excellent review Zach!
I totally understand that! Thanks so much for the comment & thanks for watching! :)
The 28-70 F2 is indeed a good alternative to primes within its range. The problem is that my photography won't settle for good. "Great" resides at 1.4 and 1.2 and can occasionally be found somewhere between 15-28mm and my photos tell that story. I happily sold my 28-70 F2 and bought a R3 body on which my 85mm F/1.2 now permanently resides next to my 50mm F/1.2.
I don't know if I agree that great is reserved for only the fastest aperture lenses. I do think the new RF zooms are some of the best lenses I've ever used. But you're right, there is something incredible about the RF 50 and 85. I definitely want to get into the 50 at some point. How do you like the R3? Very curious about that one. Thanks for watching!
Lol great photography doesn’t reside only at 1.4 and 1.2. Great photography resides in the photographer’s ability to capture an incredible image. Not judging your artistic skills, but this lens should be more than enough to make your work “great”.
3:36 - Contrary to popular believe it DOES have IS when paired with R5/ R6/ R7/ R5c thanks to the dynamic IS feature which adds more stops when used with this lens - up to 8 stops!
Thanks for watching! :)
Such a great video, Zach! Super insightful real-world use. I rented this lens for a portrait shoot a few months back and oh my goodness this is my favorite lens I've ever used!
It is really incredible! Glad you got to try it too. Thanks for watching! :)
I’ve been lucky to shoot with the RF 28-70mm f2L and the RF 24-70mm f2.8L. The IS on the 24-70mm makes such a big difference as does the wider 24mm. Yes the 28-70mm has that extra stop and shallower bokeh and is slightly sharper but let’s face it both of these lenses are sharp and both will produce superb wedding, portrait or general purpose landscape shots.
My fav portrait lens is the EF 85mm f1.4L it too has IS and creamy bokeh and that extra intimacy without being in the face of the subject like 70mm is. So in the end the RF 24-70mm f2.8L is for me and not the RF 28-70mm
I agree completely: Working with the (heavy) 28-70/2.0 RF and the RF 70-200/2.8, but strolling through the city I mount my RF 35/1.8 to get the light weight version for street photography
Totally!!
I own the 28-70mm and love it but you're right... I wouldn't replace it with my primes. I'm a bit greedy... Apart from the 28-70mm I also have the RF50mm f1.2, RF85mm f1.2, RF100mm f2.8 Macro and the RF70-200mm f2.8. I absolutely love the RF glass.
Wow that is a killer kit!! I love the RF lenses too! Those are all amazing. Thanks for watching :)
I bought this as my first lens with the R6. The reason I got it is because I don't have any primes to replace and it seems to be a good alternative that will last the test of time.
I also want to do a lot of hiking with my kit and although this is heavy, it gives me a lot of flexibility with the weight. My dream kit eventually is the 85mm 1.2L DS, 100-500mm F4.5-7.1L for wildlife and the 11-24mm f/4L (all RF).
That way, I can take one or two lenses with me on hikes and heaps of options depending on the type of place I am going. I havent fully research all those lenses, especially the telephoto lenses, but in principle thats the goal.
So far I am super happy with the 28-70mm 2L though. Feels effortless to take great photos and the colours are great in low light even. No regrets.
Yes totally agreed on all points! That would be a phenomenal setup. Thanks so much for watching :)
I agree. I have the 85 1.2 and the 28-70 cannot light a fire to it in my humble opinion. The 85 forces me to move around to get my composition and I’m always learning new angles because of that.
Shooting with Primes forces me to shoot more carefully, and also to consider my compositions more. I wouldn't say it's the be all and end all, but my Primes will never leave me.
I feel the same way! Thanks for watching :)
The best lens ever. I sold all my prímes. I feel free during shooting wedding. By backup body stays all time in backpack.
Awesome!
great video and great points of view. As i only shoot my children running around, primes won't work for me and I'm not getting 2 bodies just for family photos. I do love the look of prime lens and i truely believe the f2 zoom will get me close to that but won't miss a family candid shot because i wa switching lens. You're absolutely correct, it depends on your style. In the end showing the photos of zoom vs. prime to family and my wife, they'll just focus on the subjects captured, not the slight more blur from f1.2 vs f2. thanks and keep up the great videos!
Thank you so much for watching & for sharing your experience!! :)
this lens is one of the rare lenses that I feel it's fully worth it, even at full retail. I have absolutely no regrets.
That's so great! I'm glad it's working for you :)
You made a very good point and I completely agree even though I had never thought of it that way! No wonder I love my 24, 35, 50 & 85 primes. You can easily move around a bit to compensate. I'm not a fan of longer primes either. This lens is big and heavy while not being wide or long enough imo.
Yeah, totally! Glad you resonate with my thoughts here. Thanks so much for watching :)
The lack of IS doesn't matter. It offers an 8 stop stabilization through the IBIS of the R5/R6. Just like the stabilized lenses. It's actually the only lens capable of the full 8 stop IS without having in lens IBIS. Thats because it creates such a huge image circle and therefore allows the IBIS to do more work.
Awesome!
Bought this lens a year ago and replaced my 50mm 1.2 RF and my 35mm 1.4 II ef. Definitely don’t miss the 1.4 as much as I thought I would. If the RF 35 1.2 rumor is true I will get that one also but the 28-70 will never leave my bag!
Amazing - so glad you are enjoying it :) Thanks for watching !
Considering the cost of used ef primes has risen recently I think it’s a decent deal at $3k. Reminds me of the xf 16-55 which was a chunky boy. Also a 3rd of the price.
Why don't you use lens hoods when shooting?
I do sometimes, but generally I like the look I get without using them. Sometimes the flaring can be overwhelming though, and I do use them in those situations. Thanks for watching!
This lens is sharp at f2. If you are thinking of purchasing this lens, well , first rent it. Examine the f stop you use between 28 and 70mm. I almost always shoot f2 or f.2.2 if focused on an individual. Check to see if you use 24mm often and how. Here is the slightly rude comment, are you strong enough to carry this lens around?
Haha all good points. Thanks for watching! :)
A very good video which makes me thinking. I was considering to buy this lens but I am also a prime fan boy in the 'traditional' focal length. My standard combo is the RF 15-35 2.8, the RF 50 1.2 and the RF 70-200 2.8 and two R5 bodies. The biggest mistake which I made was selling my EF 35 1.4 II. I would certainly take a great RF 35 L Lens again as my 4th lens. I hope Canon will launch this lens soon. If I do a long hike over couple of days I only take the RF 24-105 which is also a great lens but I leave it at home when I carry my dream Combo with me.
I just bought the R5 as I sadly will be leaving Leica and my beloved SL2S because I need more reliable auto focus. Great review I’m a prime guy too but this is tempting! Ps. You have a new sub!
Thanks so much for the kind comment and for the sub, Dwayne! Much appreciated : )
Great video. Definitely something I want to rent for one of the weddings I have planned in the summer.
Yeah, it will be fun to try it out! Thanks for watching! :)
Awesome video. I’m with you. I own the 28-70 and I think it’s amazing. It’s also tge first lens I’ll sell if/when a fast 20mm and 35mm L pair of primes come out. Cheers!
Great point there! I would love to see those as well!! Thanks for watching :)
The only lens that i adore more than a prime lens is my 70-200… the tight portrait shots are just magical… 85 1.2 would be amazing but that is just too expensive for me
Agreed! Loved the 85, but I couldn't justify it. Thanks for watching :)
I am doing the internal argument with myself on this lens as part of my new kit. Thanks for the confirmation on it being worthwhile!
It's amazing! Not for me, but I can see how others would really enjoy it. Thanks for watching (as always)! :)
This was great. Gives me something to think about with my lens choices!
Thanks for making me look good, Maxx!!
nothing can Beat Optimus Prime 😄
Lol thanks for watching!
@@TheZachMendez welcome 😄
God the images from this lens and your eye are breathtaking 😊
Ah man you are too kind! Thank you for watching :)
Is it heavier than the canon 70-200 L2.8 IS II? If you can shoot handholding with that lenses for a wedding or an event relatively comfortably would the f 24-70 f/2 be that much more uncomfortable?
I don't completely understand the question - I haven't used the 24-70 so hard to say. Thanks so much for watching! : )
@@TheZachMendez Haha whoops meant to say 28-70. Since you said it's heavy in this video I guess I am asking as a matter of perspective. If you are used to shooting an event handholding a lens as heavy as a 70-200 L2.8 IS II and can do so without too much perceived strain then anything lighter would not feel too heavy. So my question is is it considerable heavier than rigs you have been used to handholding and shooting for an event prior to trying it out.
Excellent review on the RF 28-70. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
what if you don't already have primes?
Thanks for your review on the RF 28-70. Have you done reviews on the Canon 135mm with images. Not many reviews on this lens.
Ah actually that is a good point! I'll add it to the list. Thanks!
hey Zach I see you use the R6, do you ever wish you had the R5 for resolution or you truly don't feel you need it for what you do?
BTW great video!!
I did recently invest in the R5! And the difference is not staggering as you might expect. Image quality is largely the same. There is just that bump in resolution when shooting with the R5, and the R5 is more full-featured as you would expect. Thanks for watching :)
If Canon didn’t have an RF 85mm f1.2 I might have gone with this lens but instead my kit consists of the 35mm f1.8, the 24-105 F4 and the 85mm f1.2 (plus some left over EF lenses from my DSLR days) - this works perfectly for how/what I shoot. The 24-105 is for travel/landscapes, the 35mm 1.8 macro is for coffee photography/latte art, and the RF 85mm 1.2 is for portraits and sports.
Sounds like you have an awesome setup! Thanks so much for watching :)
Hi zach i just have quick question i have canon R6 and using it with tamron 24-70 f2.8 so will it be good or should i go with 28-70f2?
Really up to you and your needs/budget/etc. I haven't use the tamron but I have used the 28-70 and it is an incredible lens! Not one I would own, but I can definitely see the value. Thanks so much for watching :)
Enjoyed your content here & I agree, my second shooter has this lens and it’s amazing but it compliments there style of shooting more so then mine, he gets his composition by zooming in and out were I make the fixed frame or prime lens fit into my compositions, also the fact I shoot a lot with my Sigma 50mm 1.4 art and I definitely hover around f1.4 a lot means I will miss having that option to open up to f1.4 which helps seperate my subject in those situations were the background is very flattering or uninteresting also allows a bit more light in a dark environment. But I would still enjoy this lens fo the documentary part a wedding especially the ceremony. I think here is were it could really be an advantage as it’s not practical to be switching lenses in run and gun environments.
Yes, totally! I can definitely see the advantages of the 28-70. I recently invested in the RF 24-70 2.8, mostly thinking of video work. However, I have so enjoyed using that lens for photography. Thanks for watching :)
Great video and samples! I'm constantly in tight and ever changing wedding situations (especially getting ready and first looks) where I need something wider than 35 one second and a head shot the next. literally. And I just don't like cameras and lenses hanging by my side. its unwieldy, makes it hard to move a lot especially to squat and shoot details or unique angle, and hits chairs, and even kids that get too close...not great. I can get decision fatigue quickly as I feel like I need the 24-50-85 range not just 24/50 or 35/85. I love the look of primes though and really need the low light ability of at least an f2. While I like a little more bokeh this lens was made for me and ill be getting one soon. Will probably pair with an ef 70-200 in the bag and leica q across the body for candids and party photos to rest the hand. Have the 35mm but will probably even just keep an extension tube in my back pocket for macro details or use the q. this can truly replace everything except a tele for big ceremonies.
If it works for you, awesome!! Thanks so much for watching :)
It's gonna take a heck of a lense to pry the 50 1.2 from my r5.
Ah that is a killer combo! Thanks for watching :)
Looks like Tamron 35-150 f/2-2.8 is by far the best wedding and event lens. It has made me leave 70-200, 35, 50 at home.
Oh wow glad that is working for you! Thanks for watching!
For Canon?
Great video, really wanted to hear your insight on this lens. I have a love hate relationship with the RF 28-70. The weight of the lens discourages me at times, but when I go out without it, I miss it too much. The versatility of the RF 28-70, the speed, and optical quality separates it from other lenses.
It's really quite amazing and I can see how many people would love it. Thanks so much for watching :)
Weight wise, I'm pretty sure it's lighter and consumes less space over 3 primes... Right?
@@bahaatamer1245 well yes but you don’t use 3 primes at once haha
“Prime Killer” is perhaps the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard in all my photography years.
But it’s true… I replaced my 24, 35, 50 and 85 prime Lens. No regrets.
LOL but it certainly is intriguing!! Thanks for watching :)
That's amazing - I'm so glad you are enjoying it!! Thanks for watching :)
I forgot to mention that I live in Berlin/Germany: Here the RF 28-70 2.0 costs almost 3,800 EUR - converted back to dollars, that is more than 4,000 dollars! nevertheless it is worth this price to me!
Yeah that is a heavy cost, but worth it if you can really use and appreciate that lens for your work. Thanks for watching!
I bought the rf24-70 and wouldn’t even try this lens due to size and weight. I don’t always shoot wide open either so that factors in too. Off topic but what dual camera strap are you using? I have the spider holster system for single camera but want a dual set up strap.
I use the Holdfast Moneymaker :) Thanks for watching!!
This lens is incredible and one id love to own but can’t imagine walking around all day with that beefy lens. Also that ridiculously large filter thread.
I know!! It's definitely an investment - not just in funds, but also in lugging it around haha, but I know it will be worth it for a lot of people. Thanks for watching! :)
R6 already have built in Image Stabilize so no need for a lens to have it, it is better with 24-70mm whom also have Image stabilize, but it should be good.
IS is actually quite helpful in combo with IBIS, especially for video. Thanks for watching!
love and hate relationship with this lens. I was hoping my muscle to grow as I use this lens more and more, but it never happened lol. my arms are busted every time I shot with this lens but couldn't hate it whenever I sat with the images I got.
LOL wouldn't that be nice though?! haha... I totally get it & I agree. Thanks so much for watching :)
I agree. I also feel more like a pro with a prime! :D
Haha awesome! Thanks for watching :)
I could never go for such lenses, which do everything but nothing really well, just versatility. I like 1.2...1.4 for bokeh, for extra light, for sharpness, etc. The 70mm f2 is almost decent but it doesn't even compare to the 85mm 1.8. Plus zoom lenses are much more damaged, especially those without internal zoom. It collects dust, and all those moving elements inside break down much faster
Meanwhile i finally replaced my EF 28-105 3.5-4.5 USM with a EF 28-135 3,5-5,6 IS USM
But im a 50mm 1.4 fan
Ahhh yes! Sounds great. Thanks so much for watching :)
Yess...in one year i upgrade 3 difrent camera...
Thanks for watching! :)
what is your current camera?
nice. New sub
Thanks so much for watching & for the sub!! :)
Do NOT tempt me .. i'm happy with my EF 24-70 F2.8 :)
LOL!! I need to make a video about that one soon too! Thanks for watching :)
@@TheZachMendez it's a good lense ... love it very much. And good bargains to be got.
This lens reminds me of the formation of the Soviet Union... The old empire of DSLRs are overthrown by the small, egalitarian mirrorless systems, only to be converted into a dictatorship regime of gigantic, larger than ever before mirrorless titan glass.
That len cost to much
Yeah, I get it. So much! Thanks for watching!