Using SONY AX700, AX43, and AX53 camcorders for multi-camera live video stream w/ATEM mini
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2020
- Many of us cannot attend church right now, se we've all had to learn about doing live streaming to the internet in order to attend religious services virtually while the pandemic continues. I had to help out my own church and I used each Sunday for the five Sundays leading up to Easter to perfect my own stream in order that families could still hear a message of hope during the Covid19 crisis. Each Sunday I tried to up my game, adding cameras, the ATEM Mini switcher from Blackmagic, and improving my audio feed. I worked completely by myself on this and my learning curve was steep. This video offers an overview of the equipment I used to capture Easter in 2020.
I break down this video into the three cameras, how they all connect to the ATEM Mini, explain my audio, and how I feed one line of mono audio into the Sony XLRK2M to make things more simple and to be able to ride gains on the fly. I was a one man band. Hopefully this will help you understand how to move from a boring single camera stream into something more dynamic and with added production value, but on a budget... Please post your questions/comments below :)
Peace, and be safe out there!!!! pm-r :)
Sony AX43 link: www.bedfords.com/27242920330 (use code PMR to get 5% off this price)
Sony AX700 link: www.bedfords.com/27242908475 (use code PMR to get 5% off this price)
ATEM Mini Pro link: www.bedfords.com/9338716006797 (use code PMR to get 5% off this price)
ATOMOS Ninja 5 link: www.bedfords.com/14164021074 (use code PMR to get 5% off this price)
🙂🙂🙂И всё таки лучше когда у каждой камеры стоит человек!!! And yet it is better when there is a person at each camera!!!🙂🙂🙂
This video/tutorial is awesome! Extremely well thought out clear down to the gear list at the end. A person could feasibly go out only armed with the info in this video and the recommended shopping list, buy the gear and hit the ground running with little to no experience recording small church services and speaking engagements on a budget with impressive results. Thanks for doing this video. Very appreciated.
might be the nicest comment this year!!! thanks, I'm glad I could be of help to you :)
100% appreciated this amazing video going through every single piece of technology for the streaming/recording set-up.
Excellent presentation of the cameras and equipment setup and operation. Above all, recording the services with only yourself to manage the audio, video, and telecasting, , is an outstanding achievement.
Thank you for including many clips from the Mass - as it was a pleasure to see the finished product!
thanks Bill! there are many great resources on youtube specifically on the ATEM mini. Check those out too!
This is excellent Patrick! Thank you very much for putting it together. I learned a lot about live streaming, multi cam shoots, audio, and how to use that cool ATEM mini switcher.
Glad it was helpful!
Very thorough presentation. Thank you!
Thank you for offering this valuable and informative peak into how you facilitate the live streaming of church services.
you bet!
Great explanation to refresh my memory, thank you
Exceptionally well done video that covers the camcorder and the accessories that can be used to get the best results. Extremely helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
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Thank you for this thorough walkthrough. Good job learning all this in such a short time.
Greetings from Sweden.
Glad it was helpful! I LOVE your country in the summertime. I've been there three times--can't get enough!!!
Many thanks, very helpful. Really appreciated the sample footage at the end. The footage from esp. the ax700 was very good. Considering that you managed all this by yourself, it was a great effort. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
thanks Micro!
Thank a lot, Patrick. A very interesting and very useful video, a lesson on the real world I appreciate more than a making of a film.
You're very welcome!
Thanks for this video. Gave me many good ideas and understanding of equipment use.
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing! The most informative video I've ever watched. Thank you!
thank you for the video! extremely helpful and God bless.
Thank you for such a thorough video about your chuch’s setup. My church does an edited service, but it’s helpful to see how others do it.
This was EXTREMELY helpful! I am setting up a live stream studio and this gave me every bit of info I was missing! Thank you so much
glad to hear it!!!!
Good work Pat.
Thank you for this - really helpful on the technical side.
Very welcome!
Great information ……….. Excellent presentation, easy to understand ……
Well done you! Super presentation, very informative!! Thank you I learned soooo much!!!
Glad it was helpful!
A very good, information dense video giving a no nonsense technically rich presentation!
thanks so much!!!!
I came across this video by accident and this was truly a blessing. Our church is performing multi-camera live streaming and I had some curiosity about how our one-man-show counterpart accomplishes the task. This gave me some increased knowledge and, once the challenges imposed by the pandemic might abate, I hope to meet with our video resource to learn more. I am also in the process of obtaining a new video camera (Sony FDR-AX53) as I recognized the limitations of shooting video with either my phone or my Nikon D7000 DSLR. Thanks for the excellent overview.
thanks so much! Especially early on, we were shocked at how many people really appreciated the videos. We plan to continue shooting and posting one mass per weekend even after the pandemic subsides...
This is a great video, thank you!!
This was really helpful - thank you Patrick!
Thank you. That was very informative and clear.
Thank you, very informative video and food for thought.
love this video great job
Thanks for the visit, come on back now, ya hear?
Great vid, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!!! thanks so much Raza.
I really enjoyed this video, thankyou. As someone who is interested in moving up into using a Prosumer type camcorder, the information provided has helped me to narrow down what I'm looking for.
You're very welcome!
What a great tutorial, I really enjoyed this film.
Awesome, thank you!
Awesome work! I’m just beginning to learning of technology how to streaming for help my church. This video truly helpful thanks for sharing.
You can change the iso on the ax700 on a higher level
Great video, thanks.
Very well explained
Glad it was helpful!
This is super helpful!
Nice job! Very informative.
Very informative. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I just watched and took notes. Very useful. Thanks! It is 2023 but I am still in the idea to buy or Sony Ax53 or Ax700!
AX700 is much better than the AX53 (larger sensor, better low light, phase detect AF, etc...)
@@PMRTV Would you still use an old AX100 these days?
Beast mode!!
Really interesting and I do specially appreciate all the material you are presenting. Greetings from Geneva.
So nice of you! I loved Geneva. My wife spent two nights there a few years back. You have awesome camera stores there!!!!
@@PMRTV Excellent. I looked in the different material you presented and your solution is inspiring. Have a great day.
This video was very useful to me, its today that I got such interesting ideas on how to livestream on a cheap or rather low budget, am a person who has had a dream of having a t.v Station and ryt now I have a youtube t.v channel and really need more of this tutorial clips
Glad you enjoyed it! I'll be doing a conference in ATL starting tomorrow and will be doing a step by step on how it all goes together so stay tuned! pm-r :)
I will get notified here,have subscribed to your channel already, and could you possibly guide me on how to start and manage a simple t.v station
We started using the R73 and R74 together with a MacBook and ECamm software. Fully plug and play no need for camcorders. I had those cameras but any other cheaper cameras from the last few years would work!! No need for capture cards. We do capture the audio using an inexpensive audio adapter card and microphone directly to the laptop. Using the laptop and ecamm software you get a smooth switch box large viewer and audio combination. We use multiple cameras including an iPhone for different angles and views. Little zooming during the live stream. The iPhone requires a cheap software installed on it - Film Mic pro is what we use.
The image from the ax43 looks brighter!
I love how all the past years’ Pascal candles are displayed. 🙂
yeah, we are big on that in our parish... Fr. Chris spends big money on the Easter candle every year... Under each older candle are group photos of all our 1st communion kids, then confirmation kids, and finally the RCIA for each year since we stared (2007). Those candles literally represent our people as they come into "full communion."
Patrick Murphy-Racey Nice! BTW - The pastors are quite good a “voluntolding” the pro photographers, for this sort of thing. I was voluntold to livestream the Mass six years ago - I had no clue what to do, as I’m a stills gal. We started out on a shoestring, with one Sony prosumer camcorder, a Teradek Vidiu Pro, two iPhones running Live Air: Remote, and an iPad running Live Air. I’m pretty sure that’s how I got all my gray hair. It was a labor of love, and I enjoyed every minute of it. 😉 Thank you for sharing your setup!
@@AbiWallace lol, glad it's not just me...
thanks, im working with my ax 43 now trying to learn about all the features, its a big upgrade from my s7 samsung phone haha, I love the microphone & stabilization
if you are coming from a phone, the AX43 will be like using a Arri Alexa or Sony Venice!!!!
Great tutorial. I'm a Sony man also. I use a 4 camcorder setup. I recently updated to slingstudio. So I eliminated all of my wires. Recently upgraded to a ptz camera.
that's software, correct?
@@PMRTV
It's equipment. It will compliment your camcorders.
Thanks Patrick! In my live streams I use OBS, and I dont see the need to invest in something like the ATEM switcher. What is the advantage of having an ATEM mini? Sometimes my ceremonies are simple, sometimes quite complex, with several resources, preachers, etc. and the OBS has worked well for me, but I am afraid that I am loosing something.
you are probably correct on that. I love the simplicity of the ATEM, that it automatically can use four cameras each set to a different frame rate, and that it's not so computer dependent... as long as you have a powerful machine to switch AND stream with, OBS will work well for you
@@PMRTV Thanks Patrick!
I’m curious why you ran the audio into the camera rather than directly into the switcher. Right now, I’m doing the same, but my switcher is still on backorder. Also, it doesn’t look like the XLR-K2M is still available.
Thank you and the 40 foot hdmi max was good to know.
Good review.
awesome vid, learned so much : )
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for sharing your tips. Quick question we are using the FDR-ax700 and cannot get rid of the display when we are recording.
Thank you! I'm trying to setup a live streaming system. These will work. From St. John the baptist in Chico, CA.
Blessing to you this Advent!!! let me know if you have any more questions:)
Thanks Sir
Welcome
Outstanding! Just ordered that zoom controller.
Good choice!
Could you please tell me what is the name of the zoom controller?
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Hey Deacon! Thank you so much! This is a really great guide for stepping up livestream at a parish. Would you possibly be able to do a gear guide with links? We’re looking at how to make our production better and gear for when this is all over.
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www.bedfords.com/swatemminibpr-pre
Hi Pat, do we need additional hardware to record the video from ax43 directly to the computer/ laptop or we need to use some sort of capture card?
Well done Patrick. You could be a "lifesaver" for me. I use and AX 100 a couple of AX53s and a AX33 with an ATEM Mini Pro. When I come out of all of these Sony cameras and clear the displays so my HDMI inputs are all clear in the ATEM, I cannot seem to get rid of the "STBY" and "REC" overlays in the HDMI outputs. How do you accomplish this? What am I overlooking? Thank you in advance.
This is the best video and teacher I have seen yet.....I love it!!!!!!❤
Can I use this without the ninja flame and record to my computer?
when I made this video back in 2020, they didn't make the Pro version yet. If you buy the ATEM Mini Pro, you can literally connect up an external drive to the switcher and record an entire show. Easy peasey! I have an affiliate relationship with Bedfords Photo out of AR and OK and can get you 5% off the normal price. Just use my code, "PMR" at checkout and they will credit you back the 5% once they ship. This code works for everything they sell too ;)
Thanks...
Hi please can you tell me how is live stream for sports I mean to say while moving camera towards sportsman does it lagging or does it smooth stream?
that should all depend on your connection speed????
One question if I may Patrick. Everything you described makes perfect sense to me, except for the audio mixer portion. I have never used such a device and I'm wondering how you isolate each audio feed during recording? It seems like all the mics are always hot, so how does the ambient noise not get picked up by the other mics for example... Are you turning mics on an off as the show goes on similar to the video feeds? Or are you turning the mics not in use down on the fly perhaps with the gain knobs? Or does the mixer just take care of all that? Thank you again Sir! You are quite the professional and I have learned a lot from you over the years ;)
Jay, what you describes is exactly right. I just watched the gain knobs and raised and lowered them as needed depending on what what going on in the Mass.
@@PMRTV Thank you very much! So I guess you test and set each mic gain accordingly before the service starts and then if and when needed dial them in. Interesting, because I would think the re-verb or whatever it's called would be an issue from mic to mic if they were all "hot" at once.. Like I said I have never done anything like this before and it's a serious endeavor by yourself to say the least. Really well done Sir and thanks again ;) Jay
What mixer (make and model) did you use for this?
blessings Thanks for your video, why is the ax-43 switches off with the DC in connected. it last 5 minutes and shuts off..
Thanks for showing your setup! I'm using my personal camera (a7iii) for livestreaming our church service. The church wants to own one but I didn't recommend hybrid to them since it's quite expensive. I recommended your setup instead.
Just a quick question, I noticed that one of your camera is stuttering ( 24:26 to 24:40 ) is it a different frame rate issue on each cameras or the shutter speed of the camera? I had to ask since I only use capture cards for each camera instead of atem mini. And I have watched reviews that atem mini is great in handling different frame rates from each inputs.
Appreciate the video and comparisons. Does the AX-43 have Nightshot capability like the AX-53? I didn't see the Nightshot button on the AX-43.
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Hey, have you got any recommendations for where to buy micro HDMI cables, or a link to where you bought yours?
great video, so helpful, I may have missed it but do you feed the audio from the mixer to the atem? just wondering how the audio gets to the laptop for livestreaming if its not going through the atem?
Hi Patrick, thanks for making the video. I was just wondering if the AX43 can record directly into the Atomos monitor?
Thanks for your video. I'm in the process of setting up a multi camera system as well. I'm curious about the places that you put camera 1 and 3. Don't you get any complaints about their view being blocked? How did you deal with it?
First of all thank you for this video. Would did you use to zoom and focus the main camera?
Great video! Im from Argentina and have a question: we are starting to stream and have the sony HDR CX675. Will that work if we conect it to the ATEM Mini and use OBS? Thanks a lot Patrick!
Hey Patrick, can you tell me what hdmi out settings are you using on these cameras?
Hi! Thanks for your video tips. I have a question...for my Sony ax43. Can I pair these with the XLR K3M mic kit? thanks for your apt reply.
Thank you so much! Question, and I am sorry if you already mentioned this and I missed it, but can we record the homily on the AX53 while still livestreaming. Every time I try to record, the screen for livestreaming goes black.
Ive been slowly building a couple different kits for different projects.
One of which is a video Kit. Ive wanted a camcorder for years. And drool over cinema cameras
But been using my R5 & R6 which does exceptional video.
But I want the no video limits, no overheating video focused & having an all in one set up thats great for events. I also wanted to get a livestream kit set up as well. So I am looking at the BM Atem Mini Pro & Rode Caster Pro II to link up video & high end audio streaming through a laptop
it's a big world but once you get going, it's great to have so much control over production.
Hi! Thanks for all your help. Does the AX43 has a clean HDMI?
I think you mean AX33. That’s what I have and yes, it does have a clean HDMI out. However, it uses the mini HDMI chord, not the full sized one.
Oh hey, I just realized that you are a Priest! Thank you for your ministry!
Yes. Page 34 and 35 of manual
Menu
Camera / mic
Camera setting
Shooting assist
Display setting
David Warren he means the AX43, it’s the cut-down version of the AX53. The 33 was a prior model.
@@arnoldsnodgrass2953 I was answering for the 43, which I have.
Truly awesome presentation. We are going to duplicate most of your set up except using the Sony FDR AX53 as primary and starting with a older Canon Vixia HF M31 as a static. Not sure if I missed it but did you ever state what your actual camera settings were in menu being fed into the ATEM? Thanks again.
Any comments on the high reflective LCD monitor screen for AX-43 and AX-700? And do both cameras have gimbal built in?
thank you so much for this ! may i know what camera was used to film you speaking ? thanks !! God Bless you for the good work.
Thank u X 10! I can't imagine how you can do the audio mix, video switch, pan and zoom in on camera 2 and monitor audio in camera! Can u explain more about the atomos ninja 5 and how u live stream.
This was a great informative video. As a new AX43 owner for my church, this video has helped me. Just curios, do I need a video capture card for live streaming to CZcams?
Awesome video I never realized , there was so much involed in production I learned a lot than you GB
Glad I could help!
I'm having issues connecting my FDR AX45 to the Imaging Edge. Im doing the live stream, just like yours.
Thanks for all your help, in a normal church stage lighting situation, do you see much clarity difference of the video quality produced by AX43 and AX700 or AX100? I have AX43 used in church about 70 feet away zoom in 6x, do you think it will be worth upgrade? I recently tried MC88 but did not see much difference in video quality.
probably not for full-lit situations, but... i you do more limited lighting to create mood sometimes, as for Easter or whatever and the light levels are lower, you would see a difference with AX-700. But if you use a pretty bright cue for your main services--I wouldn't upgrade... Great question!!!
@@PMRTV thanks so much! Great info to save some budget.
Thanks for your excellent video. I especially appreciate your list of equipment at the end. It was MOST HELPFUL. I am now looking at getting a Libec Zoom Control for my AX700. Question, I see a new version of the libec remote that also has FOCUS controls. Would that one work with my AX700 or should I stick with the Zoom / Record model only ? THANK YOU !!!
sorry, no idea if it works--you should reach out to libec on that.
Truly appreciate the video! Thanks! You mentioned the Libec zoom rocker. Could you post the model number? Also, does it have a record button to remotely toggle the camera? BTW, I'm awaiting delivery of three AX700's for remote livestreaming and your video inspired me!
I love your video and I have tried streaming for our church with an ax53 and an atem mini pro, but I can't get rid of the icons. I tried all kinds of settings and powering on the atem first or the camera first but nothing works. How do you get clean output?
It is not easy to work in temples, much less do a multi-camera broadcast and also live. In my country the temples have very little lighting and the audio is terrible. I know what it's like to work in photography or video inside a temple. I congratulate you for achieving it so well and without many resources.
Yes, you are right
Just what I needed, I am looking at getting the Sony ax53 to pair with my sony a6400. Do you see any benefits of the ax43 over the older ax53? Thanks for sharing your insight!
Same camera, 43 doesn't have a viewfinder
Question, I’m looking at buying a camcorder and getting started with live streaming our church services. Regarding the ax 43 and 53, Would you recommend one over the other particularly?
They are the same camera. The 53 has a viewfinder, the 43 doesn't.
Thank you for your contribution. My problem is that it indicates the LIVE AIR only with Blackmagic cameras. Do you know if there is a way around that the camera man on the Sony cam could also know when his camera is broadcasting through ATEM. I use ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Thank you for your answer.
Very nice setup (I'm a professional), this will work great. You made good choices, next step is to use some extra lightning, there are some really nice and cheap ledcob lights nowadays. Keep it up
Thanks, will do! I'm using two of the GODOX VL300's right now and they are fantastic!!!
@@PMRTV Awesome lights. You need the power for the distance. That's your biggest problem I guess
I am in the market for a camcorder for our church, i am so thankful to have come across this video! I am between the Ax43 and Ax53. Which would be more suitable for a live streaming setup?
Thank you for a very informative video! It sure answered a few questions for me since I am in a, technically similar situation with my wife’s ballet studio. I do have a question though and would appreciate your assistance. My setup is the “same”, but it is a USB version with 1080p Logitech webcams, sound mixer for voice and music, all through Zoom interactive “meeting” application. All works well except that I am not happy with the image (resolution) that arrives on the participants’ laptops.
The question I have is to determine the cause of the poor image.
a) Is it the USB vs HDMI setup, or
b) the nature of an interactive system (2-way communication) vs streaming (1-way), or
c) the bad internet quality ruining it for all? Which of course raises the question that quality won’t improve, regardless of USB or HDMI system?
Do you have any advice on the matter?
Zoom limits you to 720P as a max resolution unless you pay for PRO AND write to them and ask for 1080P resolution. You have to make a case as to why you want/need the higher rez.
Hello 👋 can you please tell how to set up the AX 700 to use a external monitor. My biggest problem is when I depres the recording button the monitor image disappear until stop recording. Thanks in advance. Saludos
Hey, thanks for the detailed explanation on the cameras. I am filming for my church and I was just wondering, can you film live onto CZcams with the ax700 with hdmi attachment. It might sound silly, but I bought a panasonic and had to return it for various reasons, one being that the livestream was an old platform, and was not detected with the cable attachment.
You need an hdmi capture card if you are plugging a camera into your pc. They convert the hdmi to usb 3.
@@gatewaysolo104 so with the atem do you also need a capture card? Watching the video now I assumed the ax700, a ethernet cable, hdmi cable and atem mini were going to help with live stream.
Very good information
Please share the link for zooming switch
Very useful - thank you! Have you ran into issues with the AX43 going in to STBY mode? Looking to figure out how to disable this if possible?
Hi, I use the AX43 for streaming company events, I was having a similar issue. For me, turning off Demo Mode seems to have done the trick.
Thank you for this. I have 2 AX53 cameras, but I can't get them to work with the ATEM Mini Pro. WHen I connect, the camera gives me a "no picture"message. I believe this is because of the video setting on the AX53 but I can't be sure. What video type/resolution settings are you using with the Handycam AX53?
I think he is 1080p.