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- čas přidán 11. 08. 2023
- Large American families often needed more space than traditional stations wagons delivered. For them, International Harvester offered the Travelall. This 1966 2-wheel drive is packed with fascinating paperwork including its “birth certificate”.
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That machine should be brought back to life. Looks like it’s all there.
Great video as always Steve .
Was thinking the same thing. I wonder what the cost would be to convert it to 4X4?
Lot of work, and it was parked for a reason. Where would you get an engine,?
When I was just knee high to a grasshopper, the manager of our local laundromat owned one of these tanks. Talkin mid 60’s I’m sure. Same color, blue on white, white interior, funny how as a kid ( I just turned 67 ) these things stick in your head. 🇨🇦👍
My first vehicle was a 68 IH pickup, 304 V8 automatic, truck was a beast .
I wish they still made them . Overbuilt and extremely heavy duty. I had a 67 travelall 4x4. 345. 3 on the tree. My stupid duty won’t push snow like the cornbinder did
Father in law had one. It rode like a wagon buggy too & what a gas guzzler. Made todays Tundras look good on consumption.
In our “suburban” CT town, the Travelall was the short bus of the late 60’s-70’s, getting the special ed kids to & from school.
Wow! What a time capsule!! All the provenance is there with all the papers records! The truck ain’t in such bad shape! Still restorable. Prayers to Steve, for a speedy recovery.🙏❤️🩹
It’s 107 degrees in Texas. That snow looks so good.
Your habit of recalling excellent music through your video titles will not grow old on me Steve.
Ironman Steve standing in the snow with just a T-shirt.
I'm a former owner of many years and I have a couple still. Great vehicles.
Man, that travelall looks restorable. Hope it gets saved. Still praying for you @SteveMagnante
Hi Steve, love the content. I did have a question though, have you done or ever thought of doing a video on what is involved in purchasing a vehicle like this from junkyards? I think the process and pitfalls would be fascinating.
This Travelall looks like it is definitely worth restoring - up to high-end resto-mod level.
The main issue would be getting a title for it, Vermont loop is no more, and states like California or NY don’t care for bill of sale
N.Y. and Calforinia both Suck that's why so many people are leaving Thoes states.
Fond memories of my dad's '64 6 cylinder, 4x4 and 3 on the tree. Took us on many skiing trips!
Good morning everyone. I Steve is okay, his health is more important than new videos. 👍👍🇨🇦
These things are awesome!
Bring ‘em back !!!
Tought vehicles, great running gear, had a 68 302 4sp 4wd, and a loaded 74 392 4wd. If the "plastic" body Scout had made it to the market it would of been a game changer.
One of my favorite vehicles!
Hope Steve is OK, great great guy who I hope has inspired so many of us. Get well Steve
Nice video Steve! Looks like this truck could be saved. Hope someone buys it and fixes it.
The mixture of A/C, with the old style in cab heater shows how things were changing at this time. Thank you, hope you’re enjoying Roadkill Nights ~ Chuck
Someone should rescue that one! Looks to be in pretty good shape!
This thing is in great shape, I wish I could afford to bring it home and give it some much needed TLC.
Back in 1975, when home on leave from the Navy, I bought one of these. I mean, it was a twin to this one. The small V8 and 3 speed with overdrive. Only no trailer towing or A/C., but it had the dual gas tank set up. It was bronze with a white top. Drove it from Wisconsin to Virginia. I let a Navy "buddy" drive it and he totaled it into a concrete bridge abutment. Sad ending.
Hey Steve- new subs I hope you are on the road to recovery soon. I remover one if these when I was a kid back in the late 60’s in upstate NY the one my dad would drive sometime was about as base as it gets/ absolutely no frills , road like a truck, loud inside ( no insulation whatsoever) - it had a column shift manual ,an aftermarket AM radio installed on the underside of the roof. Same color scheme even.... it was used at a summer camp and sat all winter under snow and ice. Put a charge in the battery, a little gas down the carb ,turn the key and it would always start . I loved the old jeep they had better but the IH was a runner....
Great Video Steve. The International Travel All and Pick Up Trucks and some of my favorite vehicles ever made. If I'm not mistaken International and GMC/Chevrolet where the only manufacturers to make a multi door wagon like the Travel All or Suburban during that time frame.
That truck could live again, nice vid
My parents owned one back in the day and as a family of 7 it made for good memories traveling 1/2 way across the country to places like Denver to visit relatives. Good times!! Thanks Steve for the vid!! ✌️ from Iowa
P.S. that has the perfect patina for those going for that "look"
That was probably only brought out for those family vacations, or was it a daily driver? If it was the latter, your family most likely owned a gas station!
@michaelnazaruk4100 1965-77 daily driver! Ran like a champ! Oh and my Grandpa did own a few gas stations! 🤣
@joryahrens My great Grandmother was born in 1912 in Exira Iowa her parents came from Denmark. She passed about 20 years ago had great stories off finding arrowheads on the farm. And Indians going to the house and knocking just to get a meal no fighting or arguing off course they spoke there language. But she lives thru the Spanish Flu and she said as a kid she had to help out on the farm her Dad got it. He survived. She got married to my great grandpa they were married almost 70 years before my Great grandpa died. She was around long enough to see my daughter. 👍
A really cool factory feature is the manual locking rear axle. It was a lever located on side of the drivers seat. Just a slight pull of the lever and the rears were locked in.
That's a farm tractor feature.
That's a cool feature for sure
It's snowing in August? Impressive.
Reruns, Steve is apparently unwell and possibly back in the hospital. 😞
Let us know that your all right,
Get well soon, Steve! Miss you!
Steve hope you OK brother we'll be waiting for videos channel is one of the best 👌
Katie is running free around the yard and barking happily......luv you katie
Amsel Adams, who was famous for pictures of Yosemite National Park used a Travelall just like this to carry all his camera equipment.
Steve, we miss you, hope you get better soon
If he is I sure pray He is doing ok🙏🏻
Looking forward to Steve being back making new content.
The line setting ticket is essential for parts ordering, as IH used a lot of outside vendors to supply components.
My 76 scout II Traveller was burglarized and they stole my Line setting ticket and I’m sure it was thrown away as useless to the thief/ it felt like a gut punch to me .
Wow, make you want to cry.😢
My father bought a 1971 International pickup truck with a bad clutch . We put 3 after market total units in it and regrouped the flywheel. Still not good. Finally talked to a I H mechanic and he told us to get one from a I H dealer and take the serial number with us. That fixed the problem. Can not tell you how frustrating those clutch changes were lying on our backs in winter.
@@christinamoneyhan5688 with literally ice cold tools. I'm not being hyperbolic, either (It's like Gortex, I like saying it. Seinfeld fans can dig it).
My buddy had an old Travvelall. It was big enough for the whole gang to fit in. I remember the Scout also. That was an enviable ride. I wish I'd bought one looking back on it.
Someone needs to make sure Puddin' knows about this gem in the woods!
There is a great deal of similar body features with a International wagon and the AMC Rambler wagon.
That Travelall needs to find its way to Puddin's Fab Shop!
I have a 1920s International all steel horse pulled wagon.
This is so awesome! Thanks Steve, for the content. Love your videos on the junkyard.
This one hits home, mom grandpa and great grandpa and uncles use to be INTERNATIONAL dealership.
Awesome history
Cool old find there Steve! Hoping to see you back in action soonest!
I Hope Your doing well Steve, And Can't wait to see you Back on the Video's God Bless, Your Missed
Sure hope someone drags it home for a restoration.
Thank you Steve
Thanks Steve. 🙏🏻
Love the Travelalls. Be well.
Another great vid!!!! 👍👍
I enjoy your knowledge in your videos. I l;ike your smooth style. My complements to your cameraman who I think does a really good job illuminating the material you are discussing!
My school had one of these as a bus and I clearly remember riding in it as a young kid.
Hope all is well with Steve
Thank you.
My dad's first pick up was a MassDOT IHC Crew Cab that was a mix of orange and rust (mostly rust)- sold it to someone to special order a '81 GMC Crew Cab with a 6.2 diesel. Neither my mom nor the buyer could figure out how to open the hood when the transfer took place, except for 4 year old me, who had watched my dad open the hood on that derelict to feed it oil daily for over a year. My mom knew she was in trouble from that point on...
Love these pick-ups and ‘wagons’. Use to drive one. Great vehicle, except for the rust!
Get well soon, Steve! ❤️🍀👋🏻
When my uncles joined my grandfather in the family carpentry business they convinced him to buy an International 3/4 ton rack body truck. They bought several Internationals before switching to Fords. The most prominent of the local paving contractors had a couple of late 50s international low boy dump trucks in addition to their tandem axle Macks that they were still using till the mid 1980s.
That one needs to be restored.
This was a re-do, so I'll repost what I did five months ago when it was featured back then:
Don't forget that Jeep had the Wagoneer in the 1960s as well which would have been a direct competitor to this and the Suburban. Yes, the 1961 to 1968 models were called the "C and D Series" and were considered the third generation (1st was 1953 to 1957, 2nd was 1958-1960, 3rd was 1961 to 1968, 4th was 1969 to 1975.). As others stated, I think you meant to say "266 V8". Also as noted by others (and you a few times, lol), Raymond Loewy designed the logo.
I would guess that the IHC under dash unit was rebadged for them by someone, say Mark IV or the likes of them. Benny from Classic Ride Society on You Tube would be one to weigh in on that, since he used to service them and collects them, featuring ones he finds on his channel. I comment frequently on that channel as well.
Yup, with the partial VIN, we win: H for Springfield, OH assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The first six digits of the VIN denote the order code/invoice model. IHC serial numbers were a bit odd for a while, as were many makes until things got "standardized" in the 1970s. By 1981, the 17-digit VIN format that we have today was the norm. The original selling would have been IHC Corporation, 268 Park Street, West Springfield, MA 01089. This eventually became Keeley International and then Western Massachusetts Truck Center. Today this is Allegiance Truck Center who is a large conglomerate that has bought up a number of IHC/Navistar dealers in various places along the Northeast. As a unique aside, my local municipality will eventually use a building that was at one time a Navistar dealer and I have been there numerous times over the years when it was a Navistar dealer.
That line ticket is gold to an IHC buff/restorer as that is the "Pontiac Historical Services' or "Marti" report for IHC. The information on it is invaluable. The original paint code is a two-tone code 6452 Turquoise/9120 Alpine White as shown on the bottom of the line set. Mr. Ray is I'm sure long passed away but that address still stands and the house has a long driveway, so perhaps Mr. Ray had a tractor or large snow blower to clear his driveway during the big MA snowstorms of the past. December 23, 1966 was a Friday, so Mr. Ray probably took his new purchase to perhaps get a Christmas tree or take it to Sunday Christmas mass as a shiny new vehicle. That weekend was anywhere between about 16 degrees and 30 degrees in Wilbraham, MA, but it doesn't appear that it was a white Christmas that year.
I'm going to say the AC was a dealer install, but based on the build sheet/line set, the mirrors came on it when it left Springfield, OH where it was assembled. Navistar still operates a plant in Springfield, OH, and partners with GM to build their Silverado HD line there. Fontaine Modifications also has an assembly/modification plant there and I've been to it, most recently in November 2022. It is the main site for IHC/GM modifications, although, others are done there as we had a Ford F-550 modified there as the final stage manufacturer was also in OH for this project. IHC did have its own refrigeration unit and did make appliances for a time, but that business was sold to Whirlpool around the 1950s.
Hence the snow?
@@turnermorgan1176 Yes.
Cool vid, love the old internationals, had a 70s fleet side short bed when I was a teenager.😎👍🇺🇸
One of my high school teachers had a 1966 ,4wd standard shift Travelall, in that same blue colour, it was the coolest vehicle in the teachers parking lot !
Amazing that all the glass on this Travelall is still in tact. Those rear quarter windows are really tough to come by. One correction on engine sizes. The smallest IHC V8 was a 266 not a 288. IHC SV (small V8) could be had in 266, 304, 345 or 392. These SVs are not small by big 3 standards though weighing in at around 750lbs and physically the size of a big block chevy.
International V8s were heavy, everything was cst iron except the rocker covers and pan. And even those were heavy in comparison to say a SBC. I have done a couple of them.
such a beautiful suv
The next video he's going to be talking about how hospital beds have changed over the years. We wish the best and hopefully Katie can come visit. I wouldn't be surprised if you got a tick borne disease I'm in that junkyard from Pittsburgh and I know the whole way up our East Coast here it's been a problem
The line setting ticket is needed to get parts because IH sourced parts from many different suppliers.
thanks Steve :)
Morning Mags ! 👀 ☕️☕️🍩 this was a very interesting & informative ( SUV ) was coming , LOL 🤨🤨
Somebody went to a lot of trouble to put that Chevy pickup on it's side.
I hope you're okay Steve, and you'll be back soon.
Knew a guy that had a 4wd Travelall for his painting business. Had ladder racks welded to the roof! He loved that vehicle, but constantly bitched about the 9 mpg's.
I used to have west coast mirrors like that on my truck...pulled them off old 74' Ford Wrecker
Well, I don’t see Steve at Roadkill Nights. I hope he is feeling okay.
I love that brochure in terms of history
Dad worked for the US Forest Service and they had a bunch of these and the IH pickups. They handled the Vermont mountains but seemed to rust prematurely.
I remember those on the roads when I was a kid. When I was a teenager going to a small Christian school, I remember a couple kids being driven there every day in one of those. Another family brought their kids there every day in a Checker Marathon sedan.
i would love to see that thing restored to original. steve in Australia
Somebody needs to get a hold of Puddin's Fab Shop for this one!!!!!
Good video, i wish i could of got a better view of that vw karmann ghia in the beginning of your video, the Puddin channel from Oklahoma, would probably love this Travelall.
Snow came early in Massachusetts huh?
Steve, ARE YOU OKAY ?!?
Damn,,, factory air conditioning for your Travelall in Massachusetts in the late 60's !!
That was pissing in tall cotton !! :)
If it's not a rust bucket it would make a good rescue video
I like the old manual chokes. The bi metal one on my single barrel Carter YF is always sticky.
Morning Steve....geez I'd love to roll around in that snow right now......c u soon
Man i. Would love to have those IH mirrors
Are these old videos ? I see snow
its in great shape. Puddings would love this
Nice color
Last Fall I sold my 1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer. ***The only*** truck I'd rather have than that would be a1969-75 Travelall, but they're so hard to find in decent, drivable condition.
Get well soon.
Great scrapyard example, definitely not too far gone. Thanks for showcasing the available glove box pedigree. Hats off to Clifford Ray. I wonder his fate?
Just for the heck of it, I looked for an obituary on Clifford. There was one for MA (although he could have moved over time) that showed a Clifford Ray being born in 1924 and dying in 2004 at 79 years old. That would have made him around 42 years old when he bought this truck new, which seems plausible.
get well soon
These were a step up in size to the Wagoneer. The Travelette shares some of the body work with the Travelall. When Wally Byam took his Airstream group to Africa the Internationals did not fair well. I would assume by 66 they had better axels. This would be really nice fixed up with an equally fixed up Airstream. I think this was owned by a fellow that spent quite a bit of time outdoors. Maybe the Berkshires and with the airconditioning for getting out of the city suburbs to the cooler mountains.
Hope all is well Steve
Beautiful old gal. Love yo have one of those. ❤😊
My cranky scoutmaster neigbor had a '66 Travelall back in the 1960's. Steve, is that a six banger? LOL
I'd love to have it.
Buy it Steve!
The 3rd gen body style looks the best IMO
hopefully that is not there any more, id love to have it
You didn't mention if that Travelall had the auxiliary gas tank that had the filler just behind the right front tire, mounted low in the fender. I used to see gas stains from gas sloshing out. I had to work on a few IH V8s back in the day, and they were... interesting. The engine itself looked like a poly 318, but the front mount distributor proved that it wasn't. The dist cap and rotor looked just like a Ford or Mopar cap/rotor, but they were just different enough to not fit, so you HAD to use IH parts. Still, they were tough trucks.